cannabisnews.com: DEA's Failed Battle To Ban Hemp Food is Over
DEA's Failed Battle To Ban Hemp Food is Over
Posted by CN Staff on September 27, 2004 at 15:43:14 PT
By David Kravets, Associated Press
Source: Associated Press
San Francisco -- Three years after the Bush administration tried to ban food products made with hemp, the government surrendered that front in the war on drugs, attorneys for the hemp industry said Monday. The Justice Department, these attorneys say, will not challenge a federal appeals court ruling that overturned the ban – a victory for more than 200 companies that make such things as energy bars, waffles, milk-free cheese and veggie burgers with the plant that contains only trace amounts of THC, the key ingredient in marijuana.
Monday night was the deadline for the government to challenge a federal appellate court's February decision to the Supreme Court that the United States cannot ban the domestic sale of hemp foods. Patrick Goggin, a San Francisco lawyer representing the Hemp Industries Association, said the government had informed the group's legal team that it would let Monday's deadline to appeal expire. "I think they're choosing their battles. They don't see this as a battle they can win," Goggin said. Justice Department spokesman Charles Miller declined comment. The San Francisco-based appeals court said that although the Drug Enforcement Administration has regulatory authority over marijuana and synthetically derived tetrahydrocannobinol, or THC, the agency did not have the authority to ban foods derived from hemp. The court said it was not possible to get high from products with only trace amounts of the mind-altering chemical. "They cannot regulate naturally-occuring THC not contained within or derived from marijuana," the appeals court ruled. Hemp is an industrial plant related to marijuana. Fiber from the plant long has been used to make paper, clothing, rope and other products. Its oil is found in body-care products such as lotion, soap and cosmetics. Three years ago, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals put the law on hold, allowing the industry to continue selling its hemp-food products with hemp produced in Canada and overseas while the legal battle continued. The trade group Vote Hemp said it would begin lobbying Congress to allow industrial hemp production in the United States, said Alexis Baden-Mayer, the group's government affairs director. "Americans are looking for healthy alternative sources of omega-3 to supplement their diets due to concerns regarding trace mercury in fish and fish oil supplements," he said. David Bronner, president of Escondido-based Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps, which makes hemp products, including an energy bar, said he spent $200,000 funding the legal tussle over the ban. "This was a complete waste of money," he said. "Finally, I think we're gonna have some explosive growth. Everyone was kinda waiting for the legal climate to clear up." In October 2001, the DEA first declared that food products containing even trace amounts of THC would be banned under the Controlled Substances Act. The DEA ordered a halt to the production and distribution of all goods containing THC that were intended for human consumption. But in March 2002, just before those products were to be pulled from shelves, the 9th Circuit suspended that order to allow it to decide whether federal law could classify hemp food as an illegal controlled substance like heroin. In April 2002, DEA attorney Daniel Dormont argued for the ban, telling the appeals court here that "there's no way of knowing" whether some food made with hemp could get consumers high. Hemp food sellers say their products are full of nutrition, not drugs. They say the food contains such a small amount of the active ingredient in marijuana that it's impossible to feel any drug-like effects. The case is Hemp Industries Association v. Drug Enforcement Administration, 03-71366. Editors: David Kravets has been covering state and federal courts for more than a decade. Complete Title: DEA's Failed Battle To Ban Hemp Food is Over, Attorneys Say Source: Associated Press Author: David Kravets, Associated Press Published: September 27, 2004Copyright: 2004 The Associated Press Related Articles & Web Site:HIAhttp://www.thehia.org/Cannabis News Hemp Linkshttp://freedomtoexhale.com/hls.htmHIA Vs. DEA Hemp Ruling http://freedomtoexhale.com/hempruling.pdfHemp Industry on Fire http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19545.shtmlCourt Declares Hemp Legal To Consumehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18391.shtml
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Comment #52 posted by John Tyler on September 29, 2004 at 20:47:23 PT
the thrill of common sense
Isn't weird that we should get such a thrill to see common sense and justice prevail? But why does it take so long?
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Comment #51 posted by afterburner on September 29, 2004 at 17:43:56 PT
FoM and Hope re #48 & 49
The following quote seems appropriate:Reinhold Niebuhr (American theologian, 1892-1971) said: "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." http://en.thinkexist.com/quotation/God-grant_me_the_serenity_to_accept_the_things_I/8256.htmlYou're welcome, Hope.
Btw, I wasn't rolling my eyes; I found your metaphor about the mud and your simile about water to be charming.
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Comment #50 posted by FoM on September 29, 2004 at 13:22:13 PT
Hope
I agree. That's why we work so hard to bring change to our current laws against this ancient medicinal plant.
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Comment #49 posted by Hope on September 29, 2004 at 12:58:06 PT
Something I guess that will always be here
but that I can never accept is the iniquity of the self righteous. As a play on the old C. S. Lewis quote about being ruled "by robber barons is better than being ruled by the self righteous" is perhaps, being ruled by adulterers and crooks is better than being governed by the self righteous neoconservatives who torture, persecute, prosecute, and "rehabilitate" us for our own good.Well I guess I do have to accept it as part of reality...but I will always resist it.
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on September 29, 2004 at 12:43:22 PT
About Life
This is how I look at life. We all have hopes and dreams for our life. We believe if we try hard enough or work hard enough those dreams will come true. Life doesn't work that way though. Life always throws us curves and some we can't straighten out. That means the only option we have is to accept what we can't change. That to me seemed like failure but as I got older and worked thru it acceptence isn't failure but it is what we reach as we get closer to being mature and then wise.
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Comment #47 posted by Hope on September 29, 2004 at 12:37:38 PT
FoM
You're kind, FoM.Thanks.
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Comment #46 posted by Hope on September 29, 2004 at 12:35:38 PT
hatred is kind of like quicksand
Many years ago while rambling and frolicking in the woods I jumped from a height of several feet into what I thought was dry sand. It was dry on top. It turned out to be quicksand and suddenly I was over my knees and couldn't lift my feet. I found myself in two “foot sized” holes that were quickly closing in on my legs above my feet. The force of the pull was unbelievable. Someone, a strong someone, with me reached out and pulled me up and out onto safer ground. It sucked my shoes off and I had to reach into it up to my armpits to retrieve my shoes. I think I could have gotten out alone, but it would have been scarier and harder. I'm glad I have friends here who will reach out and pull me out of the quicksand I sometimes find myself sinking into.
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Comment #45 posted by FoM on September 29, 2004 at 12:34:18 PT
Hope
You're a really good person.
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Comment #44 posted by Hope on September 29, 2004 at 12:19:49 PT
Thanks, Afterburner
That's a beautiful song. I could hear the music when you reached, "Come on people!"I feel considerably better after the other day's rant and confession of feeling myself sliding towards hatred. My "confession" of the almost overwhelming desire to hate the antis immediately lifted me back to a plane where I could feel my self getting a better grip on more stable ground. The terrible pictures of people sliding and drenched in mud from Haiti is a picture of how I feel when I feel myself slipping towards hatred. Love is a power like no other. It's more powerful than water...and water is powerful as we all know. I saw on one of the chopper or hot rod shows the other night, a saw, using high-pressure water, cut through six inches of steel like it was butter. It was amazing. I suspect love works a lot like that. It's far too easy to get sucked in the mud and slime of hatred than it is to reach for the light of love. That's obvious because of all the hatred and squirming minds of those who manufacture it.The people here are a well spring of encouragement when I can find it no where else. I thank God for you all. If you’re rolling your eyes at me…which is a reaction I often notice in people when I try to explain how I feel about cannabis and prohibition, I can’t see it. So…well…thanks. A big thanks. You give me courage and power.Together, I believe, we can and definitely have made a difference already.Thanks.
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on September 29, 2004 at 10:49:17 PT
afterburner
Very true. Hate to me is the ultimate negative energy. Love accomplishes much.
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Comment #42 posted by afterburner on September 29, 2004 at 10:45:57 PT
Yes, Hope
The solution to hate is to love: eros & agape working together. Love for a special someone and love for humanity, forgiveness for their failings and celebration of their blessings, and prayer through all of the ordinary days that we share with other people, physical and virtual. "God is love." Emmanuel, God is with us. "The author and finisher of our faith." Hebrews 12:2The creative mind of the cannabis enthusiast is every ready to defend our sacred plant, given by the Creator in Genesis on the very first page of the Bible. The prohibition of cannabis is not Biblical; it is not God's will. God created cannabis, blest it, and said it was good. Cannabis opens our hearts and helps us to love others as God loves us.' Love is but a song we sing
fears' the way we die
You can make the mountains ring
or make the angels cry' Though the dove is on the wing
and you may not know why' *Come on people now
smile on your brother
everybody get together
and try to love one another right now' Some may come and some may go
He will surely pass
When the one that left us here
returns for us at last
We are but a moment's sunlight
fading in the grass' *Come on people now
smile on your brother
everybody get together
try to love one another right now' *Come on people now
smile on your brother
everybody get together
try to love one another right now' *Come on people now
smile on your brother
everybody get together
try to love one another right now' If you hear the song I sing
you will understand...listen
You hold the key to love and fear
all in your trembling hand
Just one key unlocks them both
Its there at your command' *Come on people now
smile on your brother
Everybody get together
try to love one another right now' *Come on people now
smile on your brother
Everybody get together
try to love one another right now' I said.....' *Come on people now
smile on your brother
Everybody get together
try to love one another right now
right now
right now ' --"Get Together" lyric from album "___Other Songs___" of Youngbloods http://www.allthelyrics.com/lyrics/youngbloods/other_songs_204811/get_together/ Caution: some music sites are known for viruses.
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Comment #41 posted by kaptinemo on September 29, 2004 at 05:58:20 PT:
Although I am no one's idea of a Nietzschean
He had plenty to say about human darkness:"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."Since many antis see us as less than human, this is especially appropriate, given their behavior. They have indeed become as the very thing they hate and fear.
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Comment #40 posted by Hope on September 28, 2004 at 18:11:43 PT
Afterburner
You said, "One unfortunate consequence of war (in this case on terror) is that the *good guys* tend to take on the tactics of the enemy and become more like the enemy (witness: Abu Ghraib)."I believe you're right. A teacher once told me, "You become like that which you hate."Horrors.
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Comment #39 posted by afterburner on September 28, 2004 at 11:14:31 PT
Terrorists masterminds: re firedog
I am appalled by the amount of attention given to these so-called masterminds. After all as your post points out, these people are operating at the lowest level of consciousness (“OK, you take bomb, right? And you put in your backpack. And you get on bus and you blow yourself up. Alright?”). The inordinate amount of attention that the US government and the mass media give to these misfits drags the whole world down to their level.In contrast, "the seven levels of energy consciousness" clearly identifies the activities of terrorists at the lowest level of consciousness: "7.void." The other levels of energy consciousness are "6. emotional stupor, 5. mental-social, 4. sensory, 3. somatic, 2. cellular," and "1. atomic." "7. void" includes "science" of "anasthesiology, drug to produce this level" as "narcotics" & "poisons, religions centring on this level" as "death cults, religion metaphor" as "black void," and "sacramental method" as "suicide" & "ritual murder." Sound familiar? On the other hand, "6. emotional stupor" is associated with "alcohol, 5. mental-social" is associated with "pep pills" [caffeine, nicotine, cocaine, methamphetamine], "4. sensory" is associated with "marijuana” [sic] or cannabis. --Paraphrased from "Table 1: The seven level of energy consciousness, the drugs which induce them and the sciences and religions which study each level," p.44, The Politics of Ecstasy by Timothy Leary, 1970. People in the upper 6 levels of consciousness have a vested interest in maintaining their own freedom of thought, to rise above the destructive forces and focus of the "7. void" terrorist "death cults." One unfortunate consequence of war (in this case on terror) is that the *good guys* tend to take on the tactics of the enemy and become more like the enemy (witness: Abu Ghraib). The world can ill-afford to be dragged down to the destructive level of "7. void," which destroys civilization and provides no hope or constructive, pro-social activity."Die gedanken sind frei," the thoughts are free. Rise above terror and death!
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Comment #38 posted by FoM on September 28, 2004 at 10:22:40 PT
5.9 Magnitude
They just mentioned the earthquake on MSNBC. I hope that's the only one for everyone's sake.
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Comment #37 posted by Shishaldin on September 28, 2004 at 10:21:12 PT
BTW...
The final score:
HIA: 1 (won!)
DEA: 0 (zero, nada, nothing)Congrats to the good guys (HIA, Bronner, Vote Hemp, et al) on their hard fought win!Overgrow and Just Say Know...Shishaldin
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on September 28, 2004 at 10:20:07 PT
Shishaldin
Stay safe! Yes the earth is talking!
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Comment #35 posted by Shishaldin on September 28, 2004 at 10:15:08 PT
The Earth is talkin'
Glad to hear the folks in Florida are hangin' in there. We just had a nice little earthquake ourselves a few minutes ago in the Santa Cruz, CA area. Stay safe, all...Peace and Strength,Shishaldin
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Comment #34 posted by Hope on September 28, 2004 at 08:48:48 PT
RChandar?
Dave and Jose, I'm so glad to hear you are safe. Now I'd like to hear from RChandar, probably not spelling that right, who we also know is a Floridian.RChandar, are you ok?
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on September 28, 2004 at 08:44:04 PT
dongenero
I don't mean to not be understanding about hard drugs but I have nothing but bad memories of how they can wreck a person's life. If I would have seen at least one person that cocaine seriously helped and made them a better person I wouldn't feel this way. Everyone I've met becomes a self absorbed person and neglects or abuses those they say they love. Cannabis is gentle and kind and natural. PS: I lost a relative to a Heroin overdose so I don't find much good with Heroin either but at least a Heroin addict isn't aggressive and mean I don't think but I'm not sure since I just don't know.
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Comment #32 posted by E_Johnson on September 28, 2004 at 08:41:26 PT
I think I kind of understand it
Some people feel sooo weak and in pain inside, and are so afraid of letting the world know, that they really take to a substance that makes them feel invulnerable and in control of the world and charming and pleasing to everyone.I can see it in my sister with alcohol, to her it was like a bullet proof vest, protecting her from worrying about what people think of her and how she feels inside.
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Comment #31 posted by dididadadidit on September 28, 2004 at 08:40:55 PT
Ditchweed Eradication
It comes as no surprise that Indiana, home to the dishonorable representative Mark Souder, drug warrior to the max,accounts for 89% of the ditchweed eradicated. The surprise is that Wisconsin is not in the top 3 with their equally dishonorable Rep. James Senslessbrainner (R-WI), now proposing new 5 year minimum mandatories for traficking any amount of a controlled substance in an urban area. Is the Senslessbrainner proposal a racist bill aimed at inner city blacks (urban area) while leaving the door open for suburb and farm country whites to avoid similar 5 year draconian sentences? Keep them blacks off the voting roles as they are just Democratic traitors anyhow.Cheers?
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Comment #30 posted by FoM on September 28, 2004 at 08:34:31 PT
EJ I Know What You Mean
I haven't met many people who use Coke but I would never trust them or believe them. I am furious about how my relative behaved and he lost his wife and 4 children over it. Drugs aren't more important then a persons family. I feel so bad for his children but they are probably better off without at least him.
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Comment #29 posted by dongenero on September 28, 2004 at 08:33:32 PT
me too FoM
Me too FoM. I knew a couple, we were all in our early 20s.
they got heavily into coke. It ended up destroying their marriage and the life they had built together. My buddy got out of it and turned his life around. His wife stayed in the lifestyle and was pretty much on the skids. I don't know how she ended up.
Addiction to cocaine can have devastating consequences.Same with alcohol.I also know of some relationships and businesses destroyed by heroin.Cannabis on the other hand....I've never seen such devastating problems with cannabis. People can certainly get into obsessive behavior with cannabis.
Perhaps my daily visit here is such. But, it is at best comparable with my latest urge to eat Good 'n' Plenty. At least I am getting off the trans fats and partially hydrogenated oils. I miss the Hostess Cupcakes but, the stuff is poison. Yes, I would say most of the snack foods are more dangerous and addictive than cannabis.
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Comment #28 posted by E_Johnson on September 28, 2004 at 08:24:48 PT
That stuff is a nightmare
I had roommates who got hooked on that stuff and they did some things that definitely deserved prison.It seems to be like alcohol -- some people I saw able to use it casually and not go off the deep end, but a certain kind of people just go hog wild on it and start breaking all the rules and too bad for anyone who gets in their way.
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on September 28, 2004 at 08:20:32 PT
Jose
It's good to see you. I'm glad you are ok!
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on September 28, 2004 at 08:02:43 PT
I Saw That On The News
I have seen the effects of cocaine on people I have known and it always makes the persons I've seen nasty. I'm sure glad cannabis doesn't make people act that way. A relative just wrecked his life because of it and had his children taken from him because of his behavior. I'm glad I never got into that drug.
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Comment #25 posted by goneposthole on September 28, 2004 at 07:49:22 PT
It's free!
All you have to do is unload it in some discreet location and voila, instant money.You can sell it for a song.
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Comment #24 posted by dongenero on September 28, 2004 at 07:34:16 PT
$30 per gram?
It seems that coke was $90-$100 per gram when I was in college...about 22 years ago.
I suppose if you were buying 30,000lbs you would get the reaaallllyyy good quantity discount.
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Comment #23 posted by goneposthole on September 28, 2004 at 07:27:29 PT
How do you dispense of 30 000 lbs of coke?
Where does that 'product' go?30,000 pounds X 454 grams per pound X 30 USD per gram = 408 600 000 USDThe US government is making a profit. It just looks like a waste of taxpayers dollars.
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Comment #22 posted by kaptinemo on September 28, 2004 at 07:13:49 PT:
And about another Pyrrhic victory
I know, we don't talk much about the harder stuff here, but I thought this might open some eyes:In just one week, the Coast Guard intercepted 28 TONS of cocaine:U.S. Seizes 30,000 Pounds of Cocaine
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040927/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/cocaine_seizure
Read the whole thing to get the full measure.Please note something: the use of the lower means of measure ("pounds") as opposed to the figure I gave ("tons"). Now ask yourself: why would they do that?Perhaps because the antis believe that the emotional and intellectual impact of the interdiction of TONS of cocaine is lessened by using "pounds" to delineate their 'success'? (Also perhaps because, thanks to dumbed down public schooling, they figure some Americans can't do the math.)28 tons. TONS! T-O-N-S! This is bigger than the last time the Coast Guard made such a bust. Last time, it was only ('only'; ONLY?) 13 TONS. Here's a google on the ship's name and the surprising events surrounding it since it's capture. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Svesda+MaruThe numbers of interdicted drugs grows higher and higher...while the price drops, the quality increases and the supply burgeons. You might as well try to drain the Pacific Ocean with a thimble. And how much of the taxpayer's dollars were wasted on this 'great triumph'?
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Comment #21 posted by kaptinemo on September 28, 2004 at 06:53:02 PT:
OO-rah! for Jose!
Good to see you back online, guy; we were worried aboutcha!
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Comment #20 posted by darwin on September 28, 2004 at 06:43:27 PT
Investment
Are there any Channels to invest in? Clearly the Hemp food industry is set to explode over the next few years, esp. with all the media coverage of Omega-3. I would like to know if there are any companies on the stock exchange that I could show my support for and invest in as well as buy from.
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Comment #19 posted by Truth on September 28, 2004 at 05:50:37 PT
but...
Primo bud would work and taste better.mmmmmmmmmmmmmmBlue Widow...yum(whitewidow/blueberry): )
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Comment #18 posted by Truth on September 28, 2004 at 05:46:09 PT
Jose
If one wants to use ditch weed to cook with I would say it is legal because it is. Both the bible and the constitution say it is. These are the ruling documents over all the bushit.
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Comment #17 posted by Jose Melendez on September 28, 2004 at 05:33:11 PT
I wonder
How would this ruling apply to anyone who chose to make their own food from ditch weed that grows freely in the U.S.?
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Comment #16 posted by Truth on September 28, 2004 at 04:37:08 PT
YES
"I am really happy for the Hemp Industry today. GREAT job!"
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Comment #15 posted by Jose Melendez on September 28, 2004 at 04:32:53 PT
Notes from Hurricane Alley
My goodness, it's been a challenge dealing with hurricanes. The power and internet are on, and I'm OK, thanks!
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Comment #14 posted by dr slider on September 28, 2004 at 00:58:27 PT:
Bless the "radical" 9th circuit
Firedog That song is hilarius (did you hear who?)... and a bit touching, having been there and done that "back when I was young and irresponsible". Didn't have W's connections to keep me out of that nightmare. To this day the able bodied kids looking for an easy way don't get a dime from me, (judgemental yea... see above) but the vets, of both foreign and domestic wars, I love to slip 'em a nug. Always lights up their mood, immediately. It's truly a Divine plant. I wouldn't wonder that in a few years we'll notice that those getting such an "inconsequential" amount of cannabinoids steadily in their diet get less cancer
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on September 27, 2004 at 21:38:40 PT
siege
Thanks I didn't see the news tonight. Mount St. Helens is rumbling too. Sometimes it seems the earth itself is in pain. It's probably not true but it makes you wonder. One or Two Quakes a Minute in Washington:http://www.nynewsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-mount0928,0,3748499.story?coll=ny-nation-big-pix
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Comment #12 posted by siege on September 27, 2004 at 21:22:20 PT
FoM
The news nbc tonight sayed that over 2 mil. lost power and it will be about 30 days they have it on.
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Comment #11 posted by firedog on September 27, 2004 at 21:18:21 PT
Off topic...
I heard this song on the radio tonight, and I thought it was pretty cool. I thought I'd post the lyrics here for you to look at... the first paragraph especially...
"Underwear Goes Inside the Pants"Why is marijuana not legal? Why is marijuana not legal?
It’s a natural plant that grows in the dirt.
Do you know what’s not natural?
80 year old dudes with hard-ons. That’s not natural.
But we got pills for that.
We’re dedicating all our medical resources to keeping the old guys erect,
but we’re putting people in jail for something that grows in the dirt?You know we have more prescription drugs now.
Every commercial that comes on TV is a prescription drug ad.
I can’t watch TV for four minutes without thinking I have five serious diseases.
Like: “Do you ever wake up tired in the morning?”
Oh my god I have this, write this down. Whatever it is, I have it.
Half the time I don’t even know what the commercial is…
people running in fields or flying kites or swimming in the ocean.
I’m like that is the greatest disease ever. How do you get that?
That disease comes with a hot chick and a puppy.The schools now… It is all about self-esteem in the schools now.
Build the kids’ self-esteem, make them feel good about themselves.
If everybody grows up with high self-esteem, who is going to dance in our strip clubs?
What’s going to happen to our porno industry?
These women don’t just grown on trees.
It takes lots of drunk dads missing dance recitals before you decide to blow a goat on the internet for fifty bucks.
And if that disappears, where does that leave me on a Friday night with my new high speed connection?Masterminds are another word that comes up all the time.
You keep hearing about these terrorists masterminds that get killed in the middle east.
Terrorists masterminds.
Mastermind is sort of a lofty way to describe what these guys do, don’t you think?
They’re not masterminds.
“OK, you take bomb, right? And you put in your backpack. And you get on bus and you blow yourself up. Alright?”
“Why do I have to blow myself up? Why can’t I just…”
“Who’s the fucking mastermind here? Me or you?”Americans, let’s face it: We’ve been a spoiled country for a long time.
Do you know what the number one health risk in America is?
Obesity. They say we’re in the middle of an obesity epidemic.
An epidemic like it is polio. Like we’ll be telling our grand kids about it one day.
The Great Obesity Epidemic of 2004.
“How’d you get through it grandpa?”
“Oh, it was horrible Johnny, there was cheesecake and pork chops everywhere.”Nobody knows why were getting fatter? Look at our lifestyle.
I’ll sit at a drive thru.
I’ll sit there behind fifteen other cars instead of getting up to make the eight foot walk to the totally empty counter.
Everything is mega meal, super sized. Want biggie fries, super sized, want to go large.
You want to have thirty burgers for a nickel you fat mother fucker. There’s room in the back. Take it!
Want a 55 gallon drum of Coke with that? It’s only three more cents.Sometimes you have to suffer a little bit in your youth to motivate yourself to succeed in later life.
Do you think if Bill Gates got laid in high school, do you think there’d be a Microsoft?
Of course not.
You got to spend a long time in your own locker with your underwear shoved up your ass before you start to think,
“You’ll see. I’m going to take of the world of computers! I’ll show them.”We’re in one of the richest countries in the world,
but the minimum wage is lower than it was thirty five years ago.
There are homeless people everywhere.
This homeless guy asked me for money the other day.
I was about to give it to him and then I thought he was going to use it on drugs or alcohol.
And then I thought, that’s what I’m going to use it on.
Why am I judging this poor bastard.
People love to judge homeless guys. Like if you give them money they’re just going to waste it.
Well, he lives in a box, what do you want him to do? Save it up and buy a wall unit?
Take a little run to the store for a throw rug and a CD rack? He’s homeless.
I walked behind this guy the other day.
A homeless guy asked him for money.
He looks right at the homeless guy and says why don’t you go get a job you bum.
People always say that to homeless guys like it is so easy.
This homeless guy was wearing his underwear outside his pants.
Outside his pants. I’m guessing his resume isn’t all up to date.
I’m predicting some problems during the interview process.
I’m pretty sure even McDonalds has a “underwear goes inside the pants” policy.
Not that they enforce it really strictly, but technically I’m sure it is on the books.
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on September 27, 2004 at 19:56:09 PT
BGreen
I've wondered if Jose is ok. So many people have lost power that he could be having a problem like that. I can only imagine how hard it has been for many people in Florida.
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on September 27, 2004 at 19:51:29 PT
The GCW
It's nice to see you. Yes alot of news has happened in this last week. The news should pick up now for the next month or so. There's a lot happening in different states this year. I think the one I'm most interested in is Alaska.
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Comment #8 posted by The GCW on September 27, 2004 at 19:33:57 PT
DEA's Failed
Been gone a week;Lots of good headlines...The windy city wants change; they are getting tired of caging humans for using the superplant...Not that it would be healthier for the people;They are tired...They have caged perhaps tens of thousands of people...It just wears them out.Otherwise... they would continue.-420Montrose sherriff gives back what was not His to begin with.-420All that hemp food stuff that I purchase could be profitting My countries farmers; YES, it is time for American farmers to reintroduce hemp as a component of American agriculture.IT IS TIME.
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Comment #7 posted by BGreen on September 27, 2004 at 18:16:55 PT
Dave in Florida
I'm glad you made it through the latest round.Let's all hope Jose Melendez is as fortunate.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #6 posted by mayan on September 27, 2004 at 18:13:35 PT
Victory For Hemp!
Glad you made it, Dave!The hemp industry will really take off now! The feds knew all along that they couldn't win this, they could only delay the inevitable. Sorry, greedheads. This is just the beginning for hemp!SHADOW OF THE SWASTIKA - The Real Reason the Government Won't Debate Medical Cannabis and Industrial Hemp Re-legalization:
http://www.sumeria.net/politics/shadv3.htmlThe way out is the way in...Former CIA Agent Says Staged Terror Attack Possible Before Election!
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/september2004/230904bushtoblame.htmNH widow fights 9/11 estate challenge linked to President Bush:
http://tomflocco.com/index.php9/11 Truth:
http://www.911truth.org/
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Comment #5 posted by BGreen on September 27, 2004 at 18:04:03 PT
I Wonder If THIS Nonsense Will Ever End?.
Millions of dollars spent to eradicate an acknowledged viable commercial crop. What a waste.The Reverend Bud Green*******************************************************99 Percent Of All Marijuana Plants Eradicated In US Is Feral Hemp, Federal Data RevealsSeptember 2, 2004 - Washington, DC, USAWashington, DC: Approximately ninety-nine percent of all marijuana eradicated by the Drug Enforcement Administration's (DEA) Domestic Cannabis Eradication/Suppression Program in 2003 was feral hemp-not cultivated marijuana, according to figures recently published online by the Sourcebook of Criminal Justice Statistics.According to the DEA data, of the estimated 247 million marijuana plants destroyed by law enforcement in 2003, more than 243 million were classified as "ditch weed," a term the agency uses to define "wild, scattered marijuana plants [with] no evidence of planting, fertilizing, or tending." Unlike cultivated marijuana, feral hemp contains virtually no detectable levels of THC, the psychoactive component in marijuana, and does not contribute to the black market marijuana trade.NORML Foundation Executive Director Allen St. Pierre criticized the program for spending millions of taxpayers' dollars eradicating hemp. "Hemp is grown legally throughout most the Western world as a commercial crop for its fiber content, yet the US government is spending taxpayers' money to target and eradicate this same agricultural commodity," he said, noting that many of today's current hemp plots are remnants of US-government subsidized crops that existed prior to World War II. "Virtually all wild hemp goes unharvested and presents no legitimate threat to public safety. As such, it should be of no concern to the federal government or law enforcement."According to DEA figures, Indiana led all 50 states in the volume of ditchweed eradicated, destroying more than 219 million plants. Oklahoma law enforcement eradicated some 10 million plants, and Missouri destroyed an estimated 4.5 million. More than half of all states failed to report their ditch weed totals.California led all 50 states in the number of cultivated plants eradicated in 2003, with the DEA citing nearly 1.2 million plants destroyed.Begun in 1979, the Domestic Cannabis Eradication/Suppression Program allocates federal funds to law enforcement agencies in all 50 states for the purpose of uprooting marijuana. For 2003, DEA data indicates that 8,480 arrests were derived from law enforcement raiding over 34,000 outdoor plots, and over 2,600 indoor gardens.
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on September 27, 2004 at 17:23:53 PT
Dave
I'm glad to know you made it thru the hurricane ok. I hope the hurricane season is over soon for everyones sake.
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Comment #3 posted by Dave in Florida on September 27, 2004 at 16:52:29 PT
The next hurdle..
will be growing it here..
btw in my part of florida we escaped damage a third time this year, some friends in Sebring did not fare as well but are ok and did not have any significant structural damage.
Dave
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Comment #2 posted by Max Flowers on September 27, 2004 at 16:44:32 PT
Cool! Now I can go into biz
I've been wanting to do some biz in the hemp field so to speak, and just like the man says, I was one of those waiting for the legal air to clear.- "I think they're choosing their battles. They don't see this as a battle they can win," Goggin said. - I have a feeling they are already starting to see the other battle as one they can't win also... quite frankly, DEA, we're going to kick your asses eventually in that one too, and without needing guns to do it.
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on September 27, 2004 at 15:44:55 PT
Winning is a Good Feeling
I am really happy for the Hemp Industry today. Good job!
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