cannabisnews.com: Pot Odors Wafting in Valley
Pot Odors Wafting in Valley
Posted by CN Staff on September 10, 2004 at 09:22:58 PT
By Mark Hedges, The Daily Journal
Source: Ukiah Daily Journal
The proliferation of licensed medical marijuana gardens in the county are causing a steady increase in calls by neighbors complaining of strong odors.During the 10 to 15 weeks of the controversial plant's final stages of ripening there is no mistaking the strong, skunky smell of the marijuana buds, and this has become an odor of contention.
"Basically the issue is that we can get a lot of odor nuisance complaints when people are growing marijuana in residential areas," said Dean Wolbach, director for Mendocino County's Air Quality Management District. "The odors -- though not necessarily the growing -- are offensive to a lot of people."Wolbach said that the Air Quality Management District "will have to address this issue in some way" though he added that he was "not exactly sure of all the ramifications." Those with a prescription from their doctor can -- by state law and by county policy -- grow a substantial patch of marijuana for medicine or designate a caregiver to do so."As an air pollution control officer, this is becoming a nuisance issue," Wolbach said, "because of the odors that occur during the ripening seasons of the plant -- especially in more compact, urban, residential areas."For a nuisance complaint to go into effect, Wolbach said his agency would have to receive three independent complaints for the same ongoing issue.A guy smoking a cigarette in front of an open window wouldn't count, but people continually smoking cigarettes in a designated smoking area could generate a valid nuisance complaint, as could a pot garden reeking of reefer for 15 weeks and annoying three or four different neighbors.Wolbach pointed to the pot garden odor problem as being so widespread that "eventually something is going to have to be done -- the odors are becoming a public nuisance."Mendocino County is known for its support of the medical marijuana law. District Attorney Norm Vroman and Sheriff Tony Craver were both been elected on the platforms of supporting Proposition 215 -- the state's medical marijuana proposition that passed handily, as did Measure G, the county's own personal use initiative.Wolbach said that nail parlors, for example, are regulated under the Bureau of Cosmetics in regard to the fumes emanating from their premises, and if they have too many fumes flowing outside "they are supposed to do things about it."But there are insufficient funds to do inspections in more remote areas," he added. As for the use of pesticides on crops -- notably the odoriferous sulfur applications unto vineyards -- Wolbach said his agency is "precluded from addressing those issues by law.""The legislature has given Air Districts a lot of power, but they have also circumscribed that power in terms of how it can be used and applied," Wolbach said, "so there are a lot of checks and balances. This particular case boils down to whether or not it is an ongoing nuisance."But Wolbach said that the complaints are steadily rising."Three years ago there was one incident, two years ago there were three incidents, last year there were six and this year there are already eight or 10," he said, with the growing season continuing well into October.The only thing Wolbach and his agency can do in regard to a pot odor nuisance complaint is to issue an abatement order to "have the problem abated in X number of days.""What we can do is issue a notice of violation," he continued, "and if they don't pay the fines, it doesn't stop them from growing it, but if they don't pay the fines, we can take them to court."In that particular case, we would have to have our own counsel take them to court," he added. "And then it depends on what the court decides in terms of them violating the fines and it being marijuana would have nothing to do with it."On the other hand, Wolbach said that in "egregious cases" they would have to use the District Attorney and it would be up to him if he wanted to prosecute it."There are some cases that may be coming up, here," that we may take to a circuit rider, which is out of the State District Attorney's pool," Wolbach said. Note: With pot plants maturing, smell complaints are on the rise.Source: Ukiah Daily Journal (CA)Author: Mark Hedges, The Daily JournalPublished: Friday, September 10, 2004Copyright: 2004 Ukiah Daily JournalContact: udj pacific.netWebsite: http://www.ukiahdailyjournal.com/Related Articles:Mendocino First in US To Decrim. Marijuanahttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread7593.shtmlMendocino Marijuana Measure Famoushttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread7574.shtmlMendocino Votes on Growth Industry http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread7501.shtml
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Comment #50 posted by FoM on September 13, 2004 at 06:59:14 PT
Hope
We didn't see it because we don't get that particular channel. I thought it would have been interesting to see. I watched the Perfect Storm on NBC last night. That was good and sure shows the power of nature. Maybe someone who gets that channel and watched will comment.
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Comment #49 posted by Hope on September 13, 2004 at 06:31:34 PT
Jack and Bobby...a drama
The website calls it a "drama". I won't make a special effort to watch it...probably...although I do like Christine Lahti very much.My life is "dramatic" enough. I think there's lots of arguing and grief and fighting going on in the show. I don't like it in "real" life and I don't like to sit down and endure it on TV if I can avoid it. Dang. I do like Christine Lahti, though.It can't be that positive for our point of view. It's a drama and mom smokes pot...Even if she did raise the 'best president ever', I can't believe they would allow that... mom smoking pot... to be shown in a positive light. I'm not likely to put myself through the pain of watching fore-ordained propaganda.
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Comment #48 posted by Hope on September 13, 2004 at 06:21:40 PT
Jack and Bobby
It was on last night, wasn't it?Did anyone see it?
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Comment #47 posted by Hope on September 13, 2004 at 06:20:27 PT
FoM...NPR...ONDCP
Remember the other night when I was listening to Lone Star Saturday Night on NPR?Something odd. I meant to tell you. A lot of those songs played on Lone Star Saturday Night make reference to marijuana...OFTEN. A lot. Last week end for sure. This Saturday Night, there was a big ONDCP commercial at the very beginning and somehow, the songs seemed screened. They managed to have only the songs, actually, only one, with the vaguest reference to “drugs” or even drinking. The only thing I picked up in the two-hour show was something like, "I've smuggled the poison" in one song. Even no boozing music. That's strange for music coming out of bars and nightclubs and country places.Since I don't listen to the program faithfully...I can't say if it never happens...but it's sure the first time I've ever heard it. The DJ, Amy Goldstein, I think is her name, seemed more subdued, too.That was more than a commercial. They have been listening and they have interfered.I think.
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Comment #46 posted by Hope on September 12, 2004 at 00:43:36 PT
New Series: Jack & Bobby
Very interesting.I saw a commercial for it.
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Comment #45 posted by FoM on September 11, 2004 at 22:19:57 PT
New Series: Jack & Bobby
Excerpt from article. It might be good. I thought others might want to check it out.***Grace McCallister (Christine Lahti) takes pride in having raised two boys by herself. She has tried to teach them to be individuals, intellectuals and leaders. Her unconventional view of parenting includes forbidding televisions in the house and having some private time when she smokes marijuana. Jack, the older boy, is not impressed by his mother's demand that they be different from everyone. "Don't you ever get tired of it?" Jack asks Bobby. "Of not being like anybody else?" Grace is a liberal college professor who will defend her son's possession-of-marijuana charge with a dissertation on the legality of locker searches. http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/entertainment/s_248712.htmlJack & Bobby New SeriesPremieres Sunday, September 12, 2004Hour DramaSundays 9/8cFrom master storytellers Greg Berlanti (Everwood, Dawson's Creek) and Thomas Schlamme (The West Wing, Ally McBeal) comes a powerful and poignant new drama directed by the incomparable David Nutter (Smallville, Without a Trace). If "greatness is thrust upon us," as Winston Churchill once said, then it's equally true that those who are destined for greatness are rarely aware of it. Take Jack and Bobby McCallister, for example: two bright young brothers growing up under the watchful eye of their eccentric single mother (Academy Award, Emmy, and Golden Globe winner Christine Lahti). Her personality is a force of nature destined to shape both of these young men's lives and secure one a place in the history books - as future President of the United States. Set in present day, with flash-forward interviews of future-President McCallister's White House staffers and first lady, it's a snapshot of a young man being molded to beat the odds and become the mid-century's greatest presidential leader. From Warner Bros. Television Production Inc., Berlanti/Liddell Productions, and Shoe Money Productions. Creator/executive producer Greg Berlanti, creator/co-executive producer Vanessa Taylor (Everwood), creators Steve Cohen and Brad Meltzer, with executive producers Mickey Liddell (Everwood, Go) and Thomas Schlamme. http://www.thewb.com/Shows/Special/0,11116,171889%7C%7C,00.html
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Comment #44 posted by FoM on September 11, 2004 at 21:33:19 PT
Goneposthole
I edited my post. Too much about horses so I took it out. I'm not sure about people being like a horse. I do know that people can be like an animal that is related to a horse. LOL!
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on September 11, 2004 at 20:41:43 PT
Goneposthole
I saw your comment and went and looked for info on the movie. I never saw it but I think I would like it.http://video.movies.go.com/hidalgo/main.html
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Comment #42 posted by goneposthole on September 11, 2004 at 20:21:45 PT
very true
"Horses teach a person how to be patient."-quote by FoMPatience teaches a person how to be a horse? Thought it was humorous, with all deference to horses.FoM, have you seen the movie 'Hidalgo'? It's a good movie.
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Comment #41 posted by FoM on September 11, 2004 at 19:16:22 PT
Hope
I think that song is on The Revolution Starts Now. It's called The Gringo's Tale. I love certain types of music. Neil Young is my favorite musician and I doubt he will ever lose that spot to anyone else for me. At the Bridge School Benefit Concert this year Paul McCartney will perform. That's remarkable. I appreciate when well known musicians give their time for special events. The Bridge School is so worthy and the Benefit Concert has been a big event for many years. http://www.bridgeschool.org/events.htmlSteve Earle has a kind of love song called Condi Condi on this CD. I thought what in the world did he do that for but it's a nice song. Steve Earle is gritty, earthy and not afraid to speak his mind. His one song is called F The CC. I think everyone has felt that way one time or another. I have 2 DVDs ordered that I should get when F/9-11 is released. One is a Cat Stevens concert from the 70s and one called Do you remember Jim Croce. I find that when the news gets too intense for me music or music DVDs helps me get my mind off of the news. I don't mean our type news but all the news on TV these days. I ordered John Fogerty's new CD Deja Vu All Over Again. I like music that has a message of some sort I guess.JOHN FOGERTY'S UPCOMING TELEVISION APPEARANCESJohn will be performing on A&E Live by Request Sept. 22. John will be appearing on PBS Austin City Limits premiering Oct. 2. http://www.johnfogerty.com/main.phpPS: I've found if you shop carefully at Amazon and ship the products for free all this stuff doesn't cost much money. I guess I'm starting to collect music and a few good DVDs. Live Aid is coming out soon and I think that will be 10 hours of music from the concert in the mid 80s.
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Comment #40 posted by Hope on September 11, 2004 at 18:32:12 PT
I am listening to Steve Earle
Song to a Gringo
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Comment #39 posted by FoM on September 11, 2004 at 14:24:10 PT
Hope
It's hard to cure a mean spirited horse and the same goes with people. I've learned alot about people since I've been doing CNews. Some people really want to try hard to make a difference and some want to fight and sometimes it doesn't matter what the fight is about. My husband told me there is a sign in his truck terminal. It says fighting with a truck driver is like wrestling with a pig in mud. Sooner or later you'll realize the pig likes it! LOL!People are so cool and so hard to figure out too. Trying to figure out what motivates John Walters is hard. Does he just hate us and likes fighting or are financial interests making him hate us so? I think I know the answer.
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Comment #38 posted by Hope on September 11, 2004 at 14:16:26 PT
I guess that was a generalization for me
Na. We were just recalling some good times...and we all tend to, and shouldn't always...leave out the mean people when we think about the "olden" days. Like flies in the ointment...they were and are among us...and to not remember it would be unrealistic. And it's important to be realistic...yet hopeful in working with animals...and in life in general.I think.I don't like to scare animals or people. Some people seem to like having people or animals fear them...but I always preferred kindness and gentleness and trust building. But I have, being realistic, cured biters by carrying a big safety pin or a horse shoe nail in my hand a few times. I've stopped kicking by kicking back...but it's not always advisable. If you truly hurt or terrify an animal it's going to fight...and if it's going to fight...it's going to win. Now the mean people, I'm talking about...they immediately want to kill them when they fight. If they don’t kill you or cripple you up or bankrupt you, knowing horses is good for a person. They are wonderful creatures.
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on September 11, 2004 at 13:56:49 PT
Hope
I guess that was a generalization for me. I've seen girls that lose their temper and I did a few times but it never fixed the problem I was having. I would have to go back to basics to figure it out. I look at life that way too. You can't beat a horse or a human into submission. If you want a person to calm down I think of trying reason until I have to go to that old expression which is walk softly and carry a big stick. LOL!
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Comment #36 posted by Hope on September 11, 2004 at 13:55:32 PT
Horses teach a person how to be patient
Oh yes...and with little girls I think..it's also "be my friend and we can fly together". A good horse is a kind of freedom and certainly something nearer flying and soaring sometimes, not unlike dancing, gymnastics, running, hurdling and vaulting. They can be a real joy. But it's expensive and requires a lot of work and attention. It's a big responsibility that must be attended to come sickness, death, highwater, hell, or accident. There is a huge amount more time spent mucking, grooming, feeding, watering, and doctoring than time spent soaring or flying or just being friends.
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Comment #35 posted by Hope on September 11, 2004 at 13:41:56 PT
Horse People
“Have you ever noticed that horse people know how to reason thru issues?”Most of them. We all know…in all kinds of riding…the big blustery mean guy…he’s not always physically big…but he seems to dislike horses on some level, and can terrify the randiest of creatures. I’ve seen one or two women like that, but most often it’s been men. Girls and horses. There’s a mind thing. Something funny…my Dad was a wonderful hand with horses. I noticed in an old photograph the other day, that with his gentle but firm hands…he was controlling my little brother by the bill of his cap. He obviously wanted to run out of the photograph. His feet were out in front of his head…but he was frozen in place, lightly and firmly, from the bill of his cap. That’s very horsy and funny, I thought.
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on September 11, 2004 at 09:28:36 PT
Horse People
Have you ever noticed that horse people know how to reason thru issues? I have. People can scream and rant and rave and think it will change something but most times it won't. Horses outweigh and out power us by oh so much. If you want to conquer a horse you have to win by reasoning thru problems. That's why I think particularly young girls do well by learning to ride. Horses teach a person how to be patient.
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Comment #33 posted by Hope on September 11, 2004 at 08:58:02 PT
FoM, I know EXACTLY what you mean!
"He pinned me against a stall trying to get over to a mare one time."Oh man. Do I ever. They're no different than bulls except they are prettier. They can be extremely dangerous in that when they see, smell, or hear a mare..."you" no longer matter to them. You suddenly become weak and invisible to them. They seldom display their power against you but when they do… it's awesome. Mostly, I've been a pretty good "escape" artist but I've had my injuries...the inevitable stomped foot...which heals quickly...or my neck or head...which don't. Once in a battle of wills, which he won, I got bucked off a stud horse, and unlike a lot of horses, he didn't stop bucking when he got rid of me and somehow he continued bucking with me more or less under him. He wasn’t trying to stomp me. He was just highly irritated in general and couldn’t care less where I was or what I was doing…as long as he was rid of me. The shirt I was wearing was a thin nylon turtleneck. One of his shod hooves came down on my rib cage, but the nylon made his hoof slide down my ribs to the ground. I rolled as fast as I could away from him...praying he would "desert" me...something generally, no one wants a horse to do...even if he bucks you off. But I wanted that guy to head for the barn. He did. I wasn't that far from the barn anyway. I just got a huge bruise but nothing broken.He and his brother soon became fine geldings. He went on to win in shows even against that beautiful Appaloosa that was in the Virginian. He went north to a lovely young lady who really loved him.My mother had a biter, and he left her some nasty scars on her forearm and shoulder, including breaking her collarbone. Except for my amazing escape ability…like the ability you develop for catching and “saves” when you have a small child…that saved me from an instant mastectomy one time. I still shudder at the memory of the sound of that horse’s teeth crashing together, barely missing the breast it aimed for. They are such beautiful and noble beasts though. I can’t help but love them and be attracted to them.
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on September 11, 2004 at 08:23:10 PT
Hope
I really liked your story about stallions. The noises they make are funny! Handling my stallion was a handful. The cross breeding of hot and cold blooded horses creates a powerful and sometime aggressive animal. He pinned me against a stall trying to get over to a mare one time. I had let my guard down when I was leading him to the arena and that fast he side stepped to the left. He fractured my sternum. That's when he got gelded. He became unsafe.
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Comment #31 posted by Hope on September 11, 2004 at 07:34:56 PT
VitaminT...Zogby
I've been filling out Zogby polls for a few years now and mine stopped coming a few months ago, too!Just now I checked my long blocked senders list for Zogby and it's NOT blocked.Maybe someone didn't like our answers and took us off the Zogby list. I had realized they didn't send me ALL their polls...but I got them regularly until a couple or three months ago.
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Comment #30 posted by Hope on September 11, 2004 at 07:05:59 PT
skunk smell
I guess I was "set up" from birth not to be offended by cannabis. Even as a child, I thought skunk scent wasn't all that unpleasant...unless it was on my dog and he was in the house and I had to bathe him in juice. Tomato, lemon, and grapefruit all work.Yet, I know people who find the smell of gardenias in full bloom unpleasant and overwhelming. It's true. You can't please everybody.
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Comment #29 posted by Hope on September 11, 2004 at 06:59:25 PT
FoM and BGreen
BGreen...you're kind of scaring me, man! FoM is right, I've owned two stallions as well as an original. An "original" can perform the act, but he doesn't get the mare pregnant, and shall we say, he "can't get no satisfaction". The first time I had a mare bred, the owner, a dear old man, refused to bring his stallion here if I was going to "watch". I peeked through the drapes in the back of the house. I'm kind of puzzled, but the only thing I can think you might have heard, BGreen is that horses are beautifully and exceptionally amorous. They, unlike a lot of other creatures, seem to like a lot of fore play. All the "necking", nipping, and nostril flaring. Not to mention kicking and biting which is the reason some stallions only have one eye and multiple kick and bite scars. My stud horses, or stallions, were "good boys" instead of especially dangerous, but they did do one thing that was really embarrassing. They were often in a corral not fifty feet from the back door to the house. In pleasant weather when the windows might be oen...and when there might be guests in my home...an odd very very loud slapping or popping sound could be heard rather regularly from the corral. It seems that stallions, if they are bored, or maybe they just like the way it feels, have the rather extraordinary muscular ability to stand around and slap their bellies loudly with their "running gear", as I like to refer to it.
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Comment #28 posted by breeze on September 11, 2004 at 05:45:08 PT
I love the smell of cannabis in the morning...
So, it isn't my imagination that yahoo seems to be a very pro-republican search engine. Or is it?I have noticed that when a "news" story comes up that is a little left of the conservative right, it gets voted down as a story that someone would not reccomend.I have also noticed that stories that are indeed a spotlight of bad behaviour of bush frequently get a medium reccomendation even though the sources are reputable.Thats one reason I switched my search engine.
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on September 10, 2004 at 18:35:40 PT
VitaminT
I said in a post the other day first time shame on them and second time same on me. We were burnt by the last election or at least many people feel we were. Paying attention is a good thing. I don't believe in conspiracy theories but I do believe we must be alert if something is really important to us. Putting the pieces of a puzzle together by research can take a conspiracy theory and make it actual fact. That's a good thing. That's how I figure out how I feel about issues.mayan we will never forget 9/11. I just can't take hearing about it since Bush is trying to use that terrible day to get votes. I think that's why I don't want to follow it tomorrow.
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Comment #26 posted by mayan on September 10, 2004 at 18:19:53 PT
9/11
We will never forget. We will never stop seeking the truth.GOP politicizes 9/11 for its gain, McKinney says:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040910094353754Green Party Presidential Candidate David Cobb Calls for New 9/11 Probe:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040909122555691Whatever happened to the WTC HARD-DRIVE recoveries?
http://www.incunabula.org/hive/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=83&topic=105Advance Praise for Crossing the Rubicon:
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/AdvancePraise.htm'Complete 9/11 Timeline' Book Published:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/23/c2/200409090024.ff42dd27.html
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Comment #25 posted by kaptinemo on September 10, 2004 at 18:18:40 PT:
I'd rather smell 'skunk' than booze and barf
Maybe it's a learned reaction, but weed always smelled 'healthy' and natural to me, not vile. Whereas, I will always associate alcohol with childhood and college ordeals of putting up with crocked, belligerant relatives and students, stale beer and vomit.And considering the air purifying aspects of the plant itself...I'd prefer 'skunk' to diesel fumes anyday.
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Comment #24 posted by VitaminT on September 10, 2004 at 18:13:44 PT
FoM Re: comment #8
That's curious.Here's another thing I found curious. Months ago I signed up to participate in the regular Zogby polls using my yahoo email address. After a few months taking the polls they stopped coming, I didn't think too much about it but then one day I found several zogby emails in the spam folder!I pressed the "not spam" button to have the emails delivered to my inbox. Nothing ever came!?!The other day I looked in the spam folder and there they were, three more months worth of useless polls. This time there was no "not spam" button available so I turned off the spam blocking. Now I'm dealing mountains of garbage and I've yet to see another email from zogby.I don't easily buy into conspiracy theories but I have to wonder. Could someone at yahoo or elsewhere figure out how to identify people they disagree with and then selectively block these emails? Could they skew the poll results if they got a large enough database?I know that my emails are not secure, I know that my opinions are available in a variety of places on the net.I also know that a google search can return 1.7 million hits in .12 seconds so anything is possible.I'd like my voice to at least be heard somewhere. I live in Texas so my vote is meaningless thanks to the electoral college. I'll just have to sit back and see whom the people of Ohio and Florida decide is going to govern me!Yep, I'm unhappy about that! Go Ohio!
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on September 10, 2004 at 17:01:15 PT
goneposthole
Have a nice day tomorrow. I hope everyone tries to enjoy the day. Since the news will probably be about 9-11 all day I'll put in a Pink Floyd or Simon and Garfunkel or Woodstock Concert. I find that having to hear it all again, and it's three years, is just not something I want to re-live. I hope that isn't insensitive but it feels like the best thing to do for me.
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Comment #22 posted by goneposthole on September 10, 2004 at 16:39:17 PT
you just can't please everybody
However, the aroma of cannabis is welcomed in Bhopal, India.Is there a bad bone in Lehder's body? Nah.Hey, all of you have a nice 9/11/2004.
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Comment #21 posted by siege on September 10, 2004 at 14:15:35 PT
good thing to decriminalized hemp
New technologies in hemp harvesting and processing are also being developed at the Institute whose library contains more than 55,000 volumes mainly on hemp-growing and flax-growing.Chernobyl may seem distant, but the EPA estimates that there are more than 30,000 sites requiring hazardous waste treatment throughout the U.S. including Hanford and Three Mile Island.Phytoremediation with industrial hemp could be used at many of these sites. Unfortunately, the U.S. government refuses to legalize the cultivation of industrial hemp and clings to the obsolete myth that it is a drug.http://www.ccguide.org.uk/chenobyl.html
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on September 10, 2004 at 14:10:44 PT
BGreen
Gosh horses get pregnant the same way all animals get pregnant. We had a breeding stallion until he got so big and bad (1800 pounds) that he was snippity snipped! LOL! Then I sold him for a lot of money.
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Comment #19 posted by BGreen on September 10, 2004 at 14:07:18 PT
Try adding the word "how" to that sentence
I've heard stories about how horses get pregnant but I won't even go there. LOLThe Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #18 posted by BGreen on September 10, 2004 at 14:05:21 PT
You're Too Much Of A Farm Girl, FoM
A little fertilizer talk is nothing but normal dinner table conversation in a farm house.I've heard stories about horses get pregnant but I won't even go there. LOLThe Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #17 posted by Virgil on September 10, 2004 at 14:01:34 PT
Okay, they said 8 or 10 complaints
Don't they know? And who is to say that it is not just some drug warriors just stirring things up? Noise is the big polluter that needs contolling. People could get headsets if they want to blow their eardrums out instead of trying to be a radio station without a license or transmission facility. Maybe someone that grows could really talk about smell and the ozone machines used to neutralize a smell.I know of a legendary plant that a person put on drip irrigation in the corner of his mobile and add-on. They said it was like a tree and the buds filled two thirty-gallon trash bags and it was of two-toke grade. A deputy sheriff came to the door about something other than the plant and it was so huge that you would not think it a tree. Why didn't the smell give it away? It was flowering.
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on September 10, 2004 at 13:55:33 PT
My Dinner Settled Real Well!
Thanks guys! LOL!
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Comment #15 posted by BGreen on September 10, 2004 at 13:50:18 PT
Anybody Know What Sludge Is?.
Sludge is the "treated" waste from the sewage plant that they haul off and dump on fields as fertilizer for food crops (mmm, mmm, tasty.)They not only dump this literal shit on the fields by my house, but they also end up spreading all the way up my street when they're leaving.It's legal, they claim it's not a biohazard, but it nonetheless smells exactly like the shit it is.In other words, this is nothing more than another assault on the gentle cannabis plant.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #14 posted by Virgil on September 10, 2004 at 13:45:19 PT
P.S.
Look at the words substantial and ripening and what are the stages of ripening besides that 10 to 15 weeks of the final stage? Can't they say flowering? I do agree that lots of complaints would be newsworthy. But did this article put a number on the complaints at all or tell of the Mendicino County rules or the latest from Sacramento that wants to limit the plants to six?
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Comment #13 posted by Virgil on September 10, 2004 at 13:34:29 PT
Universer
It is a anti-cannabis article alright. It is mountainizing a molehill again. They act like there are Fields of Gold, like in Eva Cassidy's rendition, when the federal government is not going to stand for supply side economics that would bring down the price of cannabis across the entire country.There used to be a Bowater paper plant in South Carolina, that would put the most godawful smell in the air all the way to the square in Charlotte if the wind was right. It really was offensive on a whole region. Anything over a hundred plants and you do not need to worry about a nuisance law or the Mendicino County Sheriff. You can call the feds and the plants will be gone.
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on September 10, 2004 at 13:19:27 PT
Dankhank
I'm sorry. I registered when I was at Michael Moore's web site. I like you and your site. I only have a few links on my Friends page. http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/friend.htm
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Comment #11 posted by Dankhank on September 10, 2004 at 13:09:23 PT
Stung ...
snif ...what's the matter, don't like my site ...???You can register from MY site, have been able to for months ...feel slighted ...http://hbaca.freeyellow.com/LINKS.htmlPeace all ...BTW, in the sixties we lived down wind from a pulp mill 20 miles away. Pretty nasty ...
Hemp the Vote
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Comment #10 posted by Universer on September 10, 2004 at 12:58:37 PT
Perhaps an unpopular opinion...
...but I can see why people would complain. Although I rather enjoy the scent of a nice full bag of weed, I can completely understand why one would not want one's abode to be overtaken by the strong odor of hundreds of maturing plants. A person has a right to quiet enjoyment of their property, and that includes a certain reasonable expectation that strong odors -- from anything -- will be abated.Besides, this is not, at least prima facie, an anti-cannabis article. Indeed, Wolbach mentions that the conditions would be the same, and would still need to be met, whether or no the odor-emitter in question was cannabis. I would think that a truly anti-cannabis article would not have included such quotes.
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Comment #9 posted by siege on September 10, 2004 at 12:28:55 PT
try Hawaii
The wild Orchids in Hawaii are so bad at a 1/2 mile you start smelling
them then get in the middle of them it is hard to breathe.
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on September 10, 2004 at 12:00:59 PT
Rock The Vote
I wanted to mention this. I registered to vote thru Rock The Vote. I just called and I still am not registered. I sent it a month or more ago. If you are using Rock The Vote you better check to make sure the proper people have gotten it. They are sending me the forms to register just in case. I thought this was worth posting.
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Comment #7 posted by FoM on September 10, 2004 at 11:20:03 PT
Thank You For These Great Comments
It's nice to have a light article and just comment on what it says to all of us. Brussel Sprouts! Too much!
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Comment #6 posted by drfistusa on September 10, 2004 at 11:11:43 PT
that smell of pine and redwood trees
makes me sick ,we should get rid of these noxious trees, Roses are offensive to me too,as is that smell of hay curing in a field "ban alfalfa"
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Comment #5 posted by JustGetnBy on September 10, 2004 at 10:41:48 PT
Talk about odiferous plants!
I was raised on the peninsula below San Francisco. Driving down the coast highway near Half Moon Bay, at certain times of the year, could make some people pull over to puke.
They grew acres of Brussel Sprouts. The closest way I could describe the smell of ripening Brussel Sprouts would be to put your head near the opening in an old fashioned out-house and taking a big whiff.
This looks to me like another tactic to supress cannabis.
Similar tactis have been used by the envirmental movement to implement their own agenda.ie: Spotted owl, snail darter, fairy shrimp, ad nauseum
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Comment #4 posted by CorvallisEric on September 10, 2004 at 10:24:46 PT
Odors
I guess the notion of foul odor must be a very individual thing. To me, the most horrible commonly-recognizable one by a wide margin is charcoal-lighter fluid. Maybe it's an association with the kind of cigarette lighters when I was a teenager back in the 60's (always hated tobacco smoke). I really wish it was considered a public nuisance and banned.As for cannabis odors, I have no experience with the "skunk" variety and the only really foul-smelling smoke I remember is that of suspected blunts being casually smoked as cigars. Maybe I've been out of the loop for too long.
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Comment #3 posted by E_Johnson on September 10, 2004 at 10:17:36 PT
Sue the honeysuckle and jasmine next
Suing over the smell of flowers -- now that's a new one.I wonder if anyone has ever done that?It's the most politically inflaming smell in the world I suppose.Some day people will know that it is the smell of healing.
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Comment #2 posted by Virgil on September 10, 2004 at 09:37:55 PT
WTF
For a nuisance complaint to go into effect, Wolbach said his agency would have to receive three independent complaints for the same ongoing issue.This article is a bunch of shit. They don't even have three complaints. You know that stinch in prisons would be reduced if they weren't so overcrowded. Now, there is something that stinks.
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on September 10, 2004 at 09:27:01 PT
Oh That Smell
This is really strange. Aromatic plants emit odors. Someone that smells a skunky type of smell while driving can think oh a dead skunk in the middle of the road or oh my there must be a marijuana patch somewhere. When will the madness end?
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