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  Medical ‘Pot’ Signatures Too Few for Ballot

Posted by CN Staff on September 03, 2004 at 08:07:32 PT
By Laura Kellams 
Source: Arkansas Democrat-Gazette  

Advocates of legalizing medical marijuana all but conceded defeat Thursday, saying it was unlikely they had gathered enough signatures to put a proposal before Arkansas voters. Denele Campbell of West Fork, treasurer of the Arkansas Alliance for Medical Marijuana, said it would take "a miracle" for the secretary of state’s office to verify enough signatures for the group’s initiative to qualify for the ballot.
Tim Humphries, attorney for Secretary of State Charlie Daniels, said the signatures probably would be tallied by the end of today. "It’s not looking good as of this moment," Humphries said Thursday. So far, he said, only about half of the names on the alliance’s petition have turned out to be those of registered voters. The alliance needs 64,456 signatures — or 78 percent of the ones they submitted — to be verified for the proposal to make the Nov. 2 ballot. Campbell said that as of midafternoon Thursday, only 41,824 signatures had been verified. Even with more than 24,000 signatures yet to be counted, there’s almost no chance the threshold will be reached, she said. This would mark the third time the group or its parent organization, the Alliance for Reform of Drug Policy in Arkansas, has tried unsuccessfully to gather enough signatures to place an initiative before voters. The alliance’s proposal, the Arkansas Medical Marijuana Act, would allow Arkansans with "debilitating medical conditions" to use marijuana on the advice of a physician. The ailing person or a caregiver would grow it. The group suffered a major setback in July when the Washington-based Marijuana Policy Project pulled out of the Arkansas effort. That came as a surprise to Campbell and her group, but members raised more money from Arkansas supporters to hire canvassers to try to make up for an initial shortfall in signatures. The alliance turned in another batch of petitions Aug. 25 with about 30,000 signatures, but they likely aren’t enough, Campbell said. Still, Campbell said she’s been encouraged by her group’s "overall progress" this year. "We’ve made huge gains in building our base statewide," Campbell said in a statement. "Clearly we are on the right track. When fear and rhetoric are set aside, our work boils down to a simple question: Do we in Arkansas want to arrest our sick and dying neighbors?" She said the alliance is in a good position to solidify its support, educate the public and decide its next step. The group could try again for a ballot initiative or go back to the Legis- lature, which has twice failed to pass a bill. Larry Page, director of Citizens Against Legalizing Marijuana, said he was glad to hear that his opposition apparently has given up for now. He said he and others will fight any future efforts to legalize marijuana because such a law would be "a mistake" and bad medical policy. "It’d be very difficult for law enforcement to get their arms around the law and prevent abuse," he said. He said the beneficial aspects of marijuana already are available in the prescription drug Marinol. But advocates of medical marijuana said the prescription drug is not as effective at decreasing nausea and increasing appetite, which they say is the main benefit of marijuana for people with certain illnesses. Campbell said she remains optimistic that Arkansans would approve the measure if it ever makes it on the ballot. The Alliance for Reform of Drug Policy in Arkansas hired Zogby International of New York to conduct a poll in 2002. The poll showed that about 62 percent of respondents answered favorably to a question about the prospect of "a law that would allow people with cancer and other debilitating medical conditions to register in a state-regulated program permitting them to grow and use a limited amount of marijuana for medical purposes." An Arkansas Poll, conducted by the University of Arkansas, reported a similar response in 2001. The initiative’s likely failure would leave four possible proposals on the Nov. 2 ballot: Proposed Constitutional Amendment 1. Referred to the people by the Legislature, it would increase the number of terms that legislators can serve. Proposed Constitutional Amendment 2. Referred by the Legislature, it would allow the Legislature to issue hundreds of millions of dollars in bonds financed by state tax revenue to pay for infrastructure improvements to attract major industries. Proposed Constitutional Amendment 3. Promoted by a petition campaign, it would bar samesex unions and declare marriage to be the union of one man and one woman. The American Civil Liberties Union has sued on behalf of three Arkansans to keep Amendment 3 off the ballot. A referred question on whether to raise the minimum property tax rate for school district operations by 3 mills. The current minimum is 25 mills. A mill is one-tenth of a cent. Complete Title: Medical ‘Pot’ Signatures Too Few for Ballot, Leader SaysSource: Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (AR)Author: Laura KellamsPublished:  Friday, September 3, 2004Copyright: 2004 Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Inc.Contact: voices ardemgaz.comWebsite: http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Related Articles & Web Site:ARDPark Inc.http://www.ardpark.org/ Signatures Added To Medical ‘Pot’ Drivehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19399.shtmlMedical Marijuana Petition Filed http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19395.shtmlPetition on ‘Pot’ Falls Short of Names http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19238.shtml

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Comment #64 posted by Hope on September 04, 2004 at 13:36:57 PT
I'll try it
As long as no kelp or seaweed is involved. Any of the kelps or spirulina type things in the slightest amounts wreck my skin. 
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Comment #63 posted by Max Flowers on September 04, 2004 at 12:26:56 PT
Hi Hope
I'm glad you're open to the suggestion. Please let me know if it works for you.Sorry that terminology was obtuse... what I meant was "make our own." When we get into our 20s and 30s (different for everyone), we start losing the ability to make enough of our own digestive enzymes in the pancreas. I have come to believe that's where a heck of a lot of health problems start and then sort of silently compound over years, culiminating in a lot of really bad problems.
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Comment #62 posted by Hope on September 04, 2004 at 11:44:04 PT
in-situ synthesis?
Dang, Max! That sounds like a foreign language to me. After a search I'm even more "dazed and confused".
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Comment #61 posted by Hope on September 04, 2004 at 11:39:05 PT
Thank you, Max
Will do as soon as possible.
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Comment #60 posted by Max Flowers on September 04, 2004 at 11:27:03 PT
Hope, I want you to try something
I've been reading about your allergy problems. Let me tell you what made mine (and a bunch of other problems) go away.It will sound strange or irrelevant, but try it: Get some digestive enzymes. They are sold as food supplements at drug stores. Get the common kind that are a blend of quite a few different types... they will have protease, lipase, amylase, etc.To explain in very simple terms, allergies are an immune disorder, and incomplete digestion due to lack of in-situ synthesis of digestive enzymes will cause undigested food to become toxins in your system (whole body system) which will take many forms including what you have been experiencing.It will cost you $10 to try this and you will not need a doctor. Take them with the first and last bite of every meal and I predict that your sinus problems will either stop or will be drastically reduced within a couple of days and you will be able to stop taking antihistamines. I hope you will try this. I cured some VERY serious digestive and other health problems with this common and very underrated product.cheers
Max
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Comment #59 posted by FoM on September 04, 2004 at 10:15:35 PT
Hope
Here's some info on aromatherapy. We use tea tree oil for cuts and bug bites and so far the oils have worked. Oils from plants were put there for us to use. I can't wait to see a true essential oil of cannabis. It's not the same as extracts like alcohol or oil but a special extraction method. Some oils don't smell really good but some like lemon smell great. http://aromatherapy.com/about.html
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Comment #58 posted by Hope on September 04, 2004 at 10:06:47 PT
Vick's
I don't think I have any, but I will double check. Don't worry about me...but thanks for the tips. I'm going to check into those essential oils.
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Comment #57 posted by FoM on September 04, 2004 at 09:57:20 PT
Hope
Boil water and put Vicks in the boiling water and inhale that will help. I don't like to use Vicks because after the oil evaporates you get stuck cleaning up vaseline. It will work though. My left knee started aching this morning and I painted oil of lavendar with a q-tip around the area that hurts and it stopped hurting. I love essential oils!
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Comment #56 posted by Hope on September 04, 2004 at 09:35:14 PT
Sounds good
One of those paint masks slathered in Vick's Salve like the authorities claim kids use at raves...I don't know if they do or not...would be nice to try right now...maybe not...getting in less air than I am now wouldn't feel right.
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Comment #55 posted by FoM on September 04, 2004 at 08:58:26 PT
Hope
I have the same problems with allergies. If you have a health food store that sells aromatherapy essential oils. I suggest that you go buy Eucalyptus essential oil and put a few drops on a cotton ball and inhale it on and off for a few hours. I put some oil on a cotton ball and do it that way and it opens my head and stops sinus headaches almost instantly. It isn't expensive oil and I swear by it. My sister gets allergy shots and was given some kind of steroid medicine a few years ago and she no longer has any sense of smell because of that treatment. The damage is done so I stick with natural remedies. If your congestion is intense you can boil water and put a few drops in the boiling water and inhale the vapors. Nature's remedies are the best! 
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Comment #54 posted by FoM on September 04, 2004 at 08:48:46 PT
Jose
Glad to know you are safe! Don't get blown away! A little humor there!
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Comment #53 posted by Hope on September 04, 2004 at 07:41:44 PT
Oh yeah
and my ears are stopped up.
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Comment #52 posted by Hope on September 04, 2004 at 07:39:29 PT
Dang!
We're having "head" problem here. Raging Hayfever + new bifocals...and I've never worn bifocals before.Dang. I'm so disappointed...but the word "footage" did hang in my mind like a warning. The condition of my head...described above...is preventing me from thoroughly reading and understanding. My face is swollen and sore...hayfever and sinuses...and the weight of these weird glasses is cutting into my face...and these lenses are warping and putting out of place everything around me. I missed my entire face with a cup of coffee the other day when I was semi-distracted.Forgive me.
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Comment #51 posted by jose melendez on September 04, 2004 at 07:16:57 PT
thanks Hope
Thanks Hope,I should clarify that they are only responding to my request for CSPAN footage of John Walters and of Barry McCaffrey.
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Comment #50 posted by Hope on September 04, 2004 at 07:04:00 PT
Jose!
Thank you for letting us hear from you. When it all blows over, please let us know as soon as you can that you are ok.C-Span is interested in your anti-drug war film! That's so encouraging. Your energy, know how, dedication and competency are a wonder. I'm sure glad you are on our side.Lay low and be safe!
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Comment #49 posted by jose melendez on September 04, 2004 at 06:35:04 PT
I'm OK
Thanks everyone for your concern, I am indeed waiting out the storm in a safe place. There was a mandatory evacuation where I live, and we may lose power and internet when this all goes down, so don't worry if I remain incommunicado for a while afterwards.I've decided to put my video on hold for a while, C-SPAN contacted me last week and I want to wait until their footage that I requested comes through. 
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Comment #48 posted by goneposthole on September 03, 2004 at 21:24:50 PT
Straussian neoconservative zionists
The heart of the real problem. They love it when everybody blames politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike. It takes the heat off of the Straussian neoconservative zionists.If you think they're not to blame for all of this 'cannabis prohibition', you're only fooling yourself. Hard to tell what all of it means, and that is how it has all been planned. We're in for a rollercoaster ride. Hang on.
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Comment #47 posted by Virgil on September 03, 2004 at 21:19:41 PT
Ekim, Paul Peterson and LEAP
Tonight was the night of the LEAP speech with the North Shore Harm Reduction Club thanks to the efforts of Paul Peterson. I sure hope Paul tells us about it.Ekim, the article you put up had no link. I thought Pitt put it up at truthout.org because of the link above it. It is a small matter now forgotten.
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Comment #46 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 20:39:05 PT
Virgil
Here's the link to the article ekim posted. Follow the Money: How John Kerry busted the terrorists' favorite bank. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0409.sirota.html
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Comment #45 posted by Virgil on September 03, 2004 at 20:23:12 PT
Ekim, the report is warped
It shows Kerry in the most favorable light as he did not chose to be investigating a bank. He was turned down for the job on the Iran Contra investigation and came upon the CIA drug dealing out of South America by accident when the only committe he could get was investigating the bank.The media and Reagan painted an upside down picture of Nicaraqua-sp. The World Court levied the largest penalty ever against any country when it ruled the US owed Nicaraqua a billion dollars. We never paid a dime, which only shows the USG does not gived a dam about laws.If Kerry were investigating corruption he would not have time to do anything else. And if his Kerry Report was so informing, then why isn't a single copy available on the Internet. Kerry is part of the corruption and not an investigator. His cover up was entry into the "Company."William Rivers Pitt was a school teacher somewher near or in New Jersey. I think he taught English. He would read Democratic Underground and track down the links. He would develop enough knowledge on the failings of Bush and government to write a book and then another. He was Dennis Kucinich's PR man and a staunch Democrat. He is now the editor of Truthout. When he paints Bush he says some bad things but they are accurate. We he paints Kerry they are flattering, but in this case the painting is highly slanted.
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Comment #44 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 20:16:33 PT
ekim
That is really interesting even though I don't understand it all. Thanks for the heads up on the concert on another thread. I will keep looking for an article on Tom and Rollie. Maybe tomorrow they will have one.
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Comment #43 posted by Virgil on September 03, 2004 at 20:07:55 PT
The Spartans
A few nights ago PBS ran three different segments in a row on the Spartans. It was even better than the shows they ran on the Athenians.Everything about the Spartans was for their defense. A male child that was deformed a birth would be thrown off a cliff. They call it infantcide. That is true except for the wealthy. At 7 a boy would go into training for defence of the city. The Spartans did not believe in walls. There saying was that the points of their spears were their walls.At 12 a boy would have a union with an older man. The older man would mentor him and see that he got his pigs blood and vinegar. It was compulsory homosexuality. At about 28 to 30 a man would take a wife of about 18. There purpose was to produce a male child for defence of the Spartan "Utopia." It was acceptable for a married woman to have sex with a fine male specimen because the need for a fit soldier was paramount.There was a Spartan saying that the women would say to their men going to battle- "With your shield or on it." It meant to come home victorious or come home dead. It made me think of Jack Herer in his effort to work for legalization until it or death came.There was a ceremony that you might say turned a man into a boy. After years of training with his male soldiers and the real Spartan life, a young man would face lines of men on each side and in front of him. On the other side was some cheese. The boy was to pick up a piece of cheese each time he ran the gauntlet and he was encouraged to get as much as he could. The men with the whips were to beat him without mercy and the result of it all would end with a huge beating at best and death at worst.I do not think Bush worthy of office now and McNamara and Boyle put out the articles for his impeachment a long time ago. He is not worthy office and he has proven it. Just because Bush should be impeached, indicted, judged, and imprisoned is no reason to let up on Kerry. He is a drug warrior and if he did not want to be treated like one, he should have abandoned his treason he calls a war. There is no reason to be soft on Kerry and beat on Bush without restraint. It is just ashame that they both cannot be beaten. What has to happen now requires the end of the two party system. It is just that time. We do not need two drug warriors and two pro-Empire criminals running for president. It is not the act of voting that will have an immediate effect. The explanation will have an effect. It is time to take a stand and beat on all the treasonous drug warriors running for office and not just these two.It is our duty to beat them without mercy and reject their view and kill their public careers. They would have you believe that the drug wars and all the onerous laws and the intervention overseas with the drug war as a front, and the CIA involvement is not important. The fact is that it is of utmost importance because it is false and treason and a robbing of what were once an unalienable rights. Freedom must be defended. Bush and Kerry and almost all of Congress are enemies of freedom. There is a revolution going on to retake the country's government for the cause of the common good and to eliminate the ignorance that brought us here.Yes, we are ruled by treason and it must end. It is time to think like a West Virginian where people fought on both sides of the civil war. They may well say, we do not care who we fight as long as we fight. I don't care if it is Kerry or Bush. They support treason with their tyranny and the public treasury and its deficits. The cause of freedom is calling. Answer it the best you can.
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Comment #42 posted by ekim on September 03, 2004 at 20:01:45 PT
long but
> >BREAKING: Man Who Helped Bush Dodge Vietnam to Break Silence
> >
> >http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/090204W.shtml
> 
> You won't want to miss CBS "60 Minutes" on Sunday September 12.How John Kerry Busted the Terrorists' Favorite Bank
By David Sirota and Jonathan Baskin
Washington MonthlySeptember 2004 IssueTwo decades ago, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) was a
highly respected financial titan. In 1987, when its subsidiary helped
finance a deal involving Texas oilman George W. Bush, the bank appeared to
be a reputable institution, with attractive branch offices, a traveler's
check business, and a solid reputation for financing international trade.
It had high-powered allies in Washington and boasted relationships with
respected figures around the world.All that changed in early 1988, when John Kerry, then a young senator from
Massachusetts, decided to probe the finances of Latin American drug
cartels. Over the next three years, Kerry fought against intense opposition
from vested interests at home and abroad, from senior members of his own
party; and from the Reagan and Bush administrations, none of whom were
eager to see him succeed.By the end, Kerry had helped dismantle a massive criminal enterprise and
exposed the infrastructure of BCCI and its affiliated institutions, a web
that law enforcement officials today acknowledge would become a model for
international terrorist financing. As Kerry's investigation revealed in the
late 1980s and early 1990s, BCCI was interested in more than just enriching
its clients--it had a fundamentally anti-Western mission. Among the stated
goals of its Pakistani founder were to "fight the evil influence of the
West," and finance Muslim terrorist organizations. In retrospect, Kerry's
investigation had uncovered an institution at the fulcrum of America's
first great post-Cold War security challenge.More than a decade later, Kerry is his party's nominee for president, and
terrorist financing is anything but a back-burner issue. The Bush campaign
has settled on a new strategy for attacking Kerry: Portray him as a
do-nothing senator who's weak on fighting terrorism. "After 19 years in the
Senate, he's had thousands of votes, but few signature achievements,"
President Bush charged recently at a campaign rally in Pittsburgh; spin
that's been echoed by Bush's surrogates, conservative pundits, and
mainstream reporters alike, and by a steady barrage of campaign ads
suggesting that the one thing Kerry did do in Congress was prove he knew
nothing about terrorism. Ridiculing the senator for not mentioning al Qaeda
in his 1997 book on terrorism, one ad asks: "How can John Kerry win a war
[on terror] if he doesn't know the enemy?"If that line of attack has been effective, it's partly because Kerry does
not have a record like the chamber's deal makers such as Sens. Joe
Lieberman (D-Conn.) or Orrin Hatch (R-Utah). Though Kerry has been a key
backer of bills on housing reform, immigration, and the environment, there
are indeed few pieces of landmark legislation that owe their passage to
Kerry.But legislation is only one facet of a senator's record. As the BCCI
investigation shows, Kerry developed a very different record of
accomplishment - one often as vital, if not more so, than passage of bills.
Kerry's probe didn't create any popular new governmental programs, reform
the tax code, or eliminate bureaucratic waste and fraud. Instead, he
shrewdly used the Senate's oversight powers to address the threat of
terrorism well before it was in vogue, and dismantled a key terrorist
weapon. In the process, observers saw a senator with tremendous fortitude,
and a willingness to put the public good ahead of his own career. Those
qualities might be hard to communicate to voters via one-line sound bites,
but they would surely aid Kerry as president in his attempts to battle the
threat of terrorism. From Drug Lords to Lobbyists
Despite having helmed the initial probe which led to the Iran-Contra
investigation, Kerry was left off the elite Iran-Contra committee in 1987.
As a consolation prize, the Democratic leadership in Congress made Kerry
the chairman of the Subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics, and International
Operations and told him to dig into the Contra-drug connection. Kerry
turned to BCCI early in the second year of the probe when his investigators
learned that Panamanian strongman Manuel Noriega was laundering drug
profits through the bank on behalf of the Medellin cartel.By March 1988, Kerry's subcommittee had obtained permission from the
Foreign Relations Committee to seek subpoenas for both BCCI and individuals
at the bank involved in handling Noriega's assets, as well as those
handling the accounts of others in Panama and Colombia. Very quickly,
though, Kerry faced a roadblock. Citing concerns that the senator's
requests would interfere with an ongoing sting operation in Tampa, the
Justice Department delayed the subpoenas until 1988, at which point the
subcommittee's mandate was running out.BCCI, meanwhile, had its own connections. Prominent figures with ties to
the bank included former president Jimmy Carter's budget director, Bert
Lance, and a bevy of powerful Washington lobbyists with close ties to
President George H. W. Bush, a web of influence that may have helped the
bank evade previous investigations. In 1985 and 1986, for instance, the
Reagan administration launched no investigation even after the CIA had sent
reports to the Treasury, Commerce, and State Departments bluntly describing
the bank's role in drug-money laundering and other illegal activities.In the spring of 1989, Kerry hit another obstacle. Foreign Relations
Committee chairman Claiborne Pell (D-R.I.), under pressure from both
parties, formally asked Kerry to end his probe. Worried the information he
had collected would languish, Kerry quickly dispatched investigator Jack
Blum to present the information his committee had found about BCCI's
money-laundering operations to the Justice Department. But according to
Blum, the Justice Department failed to follow up.The young senator from Massachusetts, thus, faced a difficult choice. Kerry
could play ball with the establishment and back away from BCCI, or he could
stay focused on the public interest and gamble his political reputation by
pushing forward.BCCI and the Bluebloods
Kerry opted in 1989 to take the same information that had been coldly
received at the Justice Department and bring it to New York District
Attorney Robert Morgenthau, who agreed to begin a criminal investigation of
BCCI, based on Kerry's leads. Kerry also continued to keep up the public
pressure. In 1990, when the Bush administration gave the bank a minor slap
on the wrist for its money laundering practices, Kerry went on national
television to slam the decision. "We send drug people to jail for the rest
of their life," he said, "and these guys who are bankers in the corporate
world seem to just walk away, and it's business as usual? When banks engage
knowingly in the laundering of money, they should be shut down. It's that
simple, it really is."He would soon have a chance to turn his declarations into action. In early
1991, the Justice Department concluded its Tampa probe with a plea deal
allowing BCCI officials to stay out of court. At the same time, news
reports indicated that Washington elder statesman Clark Clifford might be
indicted for defrauding bank regulators and helping BCCI maintain a shell
in the United States.Kerry pounced, demanding (and winning) authorization from the Foreign
Relations Committee to open a broad investigation into the bank in May
1991. Almost immediately, the senator faced a new round of pressure to
relent. Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis and Democratic doyenne Pamela Harriman
personally called Kerry to object, as did his fellow senators. "What are
you doing to my friend Clark Clifford?," staffers recalled them asking,
according to The Washington Post. BCCI itself hired an army of lawyers, PR
specialists, and lobbyists, including former members of Congress, to thwart
the investigation.But Kerry refused to back off, and his hearings began to expose the ways in
which international terrorism was financed. As Kerry's subcommittee
discovered, BCCI catered to many of the most notorious tyrants and thugs of
the late 20th century, including Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, the heads
of the Medellin cocaine cartel, and Abu Nidal, the notorious Palestinian
terrorist. According to the CIA, it also did business with those who went
on to lead al Qaeda.And BCCI went beyond merely offering financial assistance to dictators and
terrorists: According to Time, the operation itself was an elaborate fraud,
replete with a "global intelligence operation and a Mafia-like enforcement
squad."By July 1991, Kerry's work paid off. That month, British and U.S.
regulators finally responded to the evidence provided by Kerry, Morgenthau,
and a concurrent investigation by the Federal Reserve. BCCI was shut down
in seven countries, restricted in dozens more, and served indictments for
grand larceny, bribery, and money laundering. The actions effectively put
it out of business what Morgenthau called, "one of the biggest criminal
enterprises in world history."Bin Laden's Bankers
Kerry's record in the BCCI affair, of course, contrasts sharply with
Bush's. The current president's career as an oilman was always marked by
the kind of insider cronyism that Kerry resisted. Even more startling, as a
director of Texas-based Harken Energy, Bush himself did business with
BCCI-connected institutions almost at the same time Kerry was fighting the
bank. As The Wall Street Journal reported in 1991, there was a "mosaic of
BCCI connections surrounding [Harken] since George W. Bush came on board."
In 1987, Bush secured a critical $25 million-loan from a bank the Kerry
Commission would later reveal to be a BCCI joint venture. Certainly, Bush
did not suspect BCCI had such questionable connections at the time. But
still, the president's history suggests his attacks on Kerry's
national-security credentials come from a position of little authority.As the presidential campaign enters its final stretch, Kerry's BCCI
experience is important for two reasons. First, it reveals Kerry's
foresight in fighting terrorism that is critical for any president in this
age of asymmetrical threats. As The Washington Post noted, "years before
money laundering became a centerpiece of anti terrorist efforts... Kerry
crusaded for controls on global money laundering in the name of national
security."Make no mistake about it, BCCI would have been a player. A decade after
Kerry helped shut the bank down, the CIA discovered Osama bin Laden was
among those with accounts at the bank. A French intelligence report
obtained by The Washington Post in 2002 identified dozens of companies and
individuals who were involved with BCCI and were found to be dealing with
bin Laden after the bank collapsed, and that the financial network operated
by bin Laden today "is similar to the network put in place in the 1980s by
BCCI." As one senior U.S. investigator said in 2002, "BCCI was the mother
and father of terrorist financing operations."Second, the BCCI affair showed Kerry to be a politician driven by a sense
of mission, rather than expediency - even when it meant ruffling feathers.
Perhaps Sen. Hank Brown, the ranking Republican on Kerry's subcommittee,
put it best. "John Kerry was willing to spearhead this difficult
investigation," Brown said. "Because many important members of his own
party were involved in this scandal, it was a distasteful subject for other
committee and subcommittee chairmen to investigate. They did not. John
Kerry did."
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Comment #41 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 19:48:42 PT
I Know What Might Help Kerry and Us
I just thought how could some of the ads that they show have caused so much trouble for Kerry ( Swift Boat Veterans) and how could we make people offended at Bush. How about WAMM and what happened to them and all the sick people as an ad? I like the idea. It could be helpful.
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 19:43:03 PT
CNN: Lou Dobbs Poll
LOU DOBBS TONIGHT QUICKVOTE Do you think the Republican convention increased President Bush's chances of getting re-elected?Current Results: 
Yes  -- 21% -- 724 votes No -- 79% -- 2697 -- votes Total: 3421 votes 
 
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
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Comment #39 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 19:26:52 PT
Virgil
You made me smile when you mentioned about impeaching Bush if he gets in for 4 more years. It will be necessary in my opinion. 
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Comment #38 posted by Virgil on September 03, 2004 at 19:16:46 PT
He can lose alright
Because he is just like Bush without the hate against abortion and gay marriage. There were 558 results for "Internet Enlightment" at Google and 98 for "Internet Enlightened." It shows that the phenom that is coming is in its infantcy.Maybe the Dims will not send out a drug warrior next time and the call to impeach Bush may get extremely loud once a draft starts if Bush gets elected. I would like to advocate the belief that what we as a country need is a large turnout, even though I advocate not voting for Bush or Kerry as the best path for the country.
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 19:05:44 PT
Virgil
Kerry can lose because the republicans are really smart and know how to spin issues like nothing I've ever seen. That is why I watched the RNC. I really want to know my enemies. I want to know what makes them do what they do. Bush will win unless Kerry really can learn to stand up for our rights. If a person is losing why not go for it? What does he have to lose? Nothing.
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Comment #36 posted by Virgil on September 03, 2004 at 18:59:25 PT
How could Mr. Electable lose?
As bad as Kerry is and as sold-out to the plutocracy as Kerry is, I cannot see how he can lose to the worst president ever. I was asked yesterday by two people that had a newspaper Bush on the cover if I watched the convention. I said "No. It is all a bunch of lies."I would go on to put the war criminal conviction on Bush and describe how the merger of 6 giant oil companies into three would have been disallowed if the anti-trust were applied instead of disregarded. I would go on to paint a complete different picture than the official media presents saying that the desire is global domination with the control of oil being the means to the end. In five minutes I had two people wondering what the hell is going on. What I am getting at is that there are now a lot of authorities around that are really wise on the way things really are. I guess Bush the Elder would call them millions of points of light and we are now millions. The ignorance of the average man cannot defend his beliefs when presented with things he never heard of and a lecture on the media.It is like a person can only believe in prohibition without understanding the reason for its end. They can spout the demonization, but they have not ever heard that the real  issue is prohibition itself. They have beliefs that have never heard the alternate view. To prove ignorance in self on Iraq and its liberation, all you have to do is ask if they know the issue of depleted uranium. Using illegal weapons that will mame and kill for billions of years is not compatable with the concept of liberation. With cannabis, all you have to ask is for the opposite view of a criminal justice lead prohibition. When a person cannot answer, all you have to say is that if you do not know the term "harm reduction" how could you possible know enough to argue against it and support proven failure and treason.I guess I am saying there is an attack against ignorance on a massive scale in a type of hand to hand combat to take back the country.But as I left the two gentleman, I wanted to include the media. I would say that there are only five major media companies and that when DirectTV was sold the government allowed Fox News and Ruppert Murdoch to control it for their part in the brainwashing of the American public. I have typed all of this to say that the words finally came to me that woke them both up- "When you watch television, you are receiving your programming."The millions of points of light are being sought out. The term "Internet Enlightenment" will probably not even receive a result at Google. Since we are filling in the blanks I will give us all here credit for being part of the "Internet Enlightened." The Great Awakening is coming. The whole convention was meant to make people think that Bush is electable. It did not present the view that he is a war criminal and the worst president ever. It presented the false reality that we liberated Iraq instead of occupied it and began the raping and plundering.Kerry is a drug warrior and will not get my vote and I will present it as a litmus test for unwortiness that both sides will know they will not get suppoet from me when they want to continue the slavery and treason. Kerry is as mediocre as they get and he would not have been selected by the PTB to be the nominee if he did not agree to continue the path of treason. But one thing about Kerry, he is not the worst president ever and the doubt you feel has been manufactured by a controlled media.  
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 18:37:39 PT
BGreen
That's good stuff! Thanks! 
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Comment #34 posted by BGreen on September 03, 2004 at 18:29:33 PT

These Are Voters That Aren't Polled But Count
Thousands use Dutch website to register for US poll3 September 2004AMSTERDAM — Some 650,000 American expats have used a Dutch- based website to help them register to vote in the US elections in November, it was revealed Friday.Started by two American expats living in Amsterdam, the website TellAnAmericanToVote.com allows anyone to send a message, with the required forms and instructions for overseas voting attached, to American friends and colleagues.The co-creator of the website, Claire Taylor, also said on Friday that the call to vote has hit a chord among expat voters. Taylor said interest was high, particularly in light of the 2000 election — the closest vote in US history — in which just 537 votes decided the Florida poll and victory of George Bush.There are at least six million Americans living abroad and Taylor said that the foreign vote was vitally important. Some estimates put the number of US expats at 7.1 million."It was too close to call (in 2000). Therefore, everyone now knows a vote actually makes a difference," she said.There are about 21,000 American expats living in the Netherlands and Taylor said they must first register before being allowed to vote. They will then be sent absentee ballot papers, but time is running out.Meanwhile, the American political parties are also focusing on getting people to register to vote. "That is getting more attention than a party's political campaign," Steve Weiss of Republicans Abroad Netherlands said.
 
Weiss was recently appointed the group's chief and said the Republican Party was unrepresented in the Netherlands for a long time."It is difficult to find people willing to do it. But the battle is now so fierce that I put myself forward. Americans must register now. Right now. It would be nice if they would vote for (President George) Bush," he said.Democrats Abroad Netherlands official Donna DuCarme pointed out that the Republicans in the Netherlands are on good terms with the Democrats, explaining that she was about to telephone them to see how both groups were doing in getting expats to register to vote.She has also focused her campaign on registration information and is not so deeply involved in party politics.Democrats Abroad have for some months been holding special events in American book stores in large cities around Europe to help register US expats to vote.DuCarme said many Americans don't know which state they last lived in and this is important, because that is where they must lodge their vote.Meanwhile, Weiss said he will try to organise a debate with the Democrat counterpart. Regardless, he said he is convinced that President Bush will be returned to the white House for another four-year term.But DuCarme thinks exactly the opposite, placing full confidence in Democrat candidate John Kerry. "I can not even think about what will happen if Bush wins. I really can't. And that won't happen either," she said.[Copyright Novum Nieuws 2004]
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Comment #33 posted by BGreen on September 03, 2004 at 18:25:37 PT

Why Democrats shouldn't be scared - Michael Moore
By Michael Moore / USA TodayNEW YORK — If I've heard it once, I've heard it a hundred times from discouraged Democrats and liberals as the Republican convention here wrapped up this week. Their shoulders hunched, their eyes at a droop, they lower their voice to a whisper hoping that if they don't say it too loud it may not come true: "I...I...I think Bush is going to win."Clearly, they're watching too much TV. Too much of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Zell Miller, Dick Cheney and Rudy Giuliani. Too much of swift boat veterans and Fox News commentators.Action heroes always look good on TV. On Wednesday night, the GOP even made an action-hero video and showed it at the convention. There was White House political czar Karl Rove and other administration officials dressed up for "war" and going through boot camp on the National Mall in Washington.I could only sit there in the convention hall and wish this were the real thing: Rove, national security adviser Condi Rice and Co. being sent to Iraq, and our boys and girls being brought home. But then the lights came up, and everyone sitting in the Bush family box was having a grand ol' hoot and a holler at the video they just saw.For some reason, all of this has scared the bejabbers out of the Democrats. I can hear the wailing and moaning from Berkeley, Calif., to Cambridge, Mass. The frightening scenes from the convention have sent John Kerry's supporters looking for the shovels so they can dig their underground bunkers in preparation for another four years of the Dark Force.I can't believe all of this whimpering and whining. Kerry has been ahead in many polls all summer long, but the Republicans come to New York for one week off-Broadway and suddenly everyone is dressed in mourning black and sitting shivah?Exactly what moment was it during the convention that convinced them that the Republicans had now "connected" with the majority of Americans and that it was all over? Arnold praising Richard Nixon? Ooooh, that's a real crowd-pleaser. Elizabeth Dole decrying the removal of the Ten Commandments from a courthouse wall in Alabama? Yes, that's a big topic of conversation in the unemployment line in Akron, Ohio. Georgia Sen. Miller, a Democratic turncoat, looking like Freddy Krueger at an all- girls camp? His speech — and the look on what you could see of his strangely lit face — was enough for parents to send small children to their bedrooms.My friends — and I include all Democrats, independents and recovering Republicans in this salutation — do not be afraid. Yes, the Bush Republicans huff and they puff, but they blow their own house down.As many polls confirm, a majority of your fellow Americans believe in your agenda. They want stronger environmental laws, are strong supporters of women's rights, favor gun control and want the war in Iraq to end.Rejoice. You're already more than halfway there when you have the public on board. Just imagine if you had to go out and do the work to convince the majority of Americans that women shouldn't be paid the same as men. All they ask is that you put up a candidate for president who believes in something and fights for those beliefs.Is that too much to ask?The Republicans have no idea how much harm they have done to themselves. They used to have a folk-hero mayor of New York named Rudy Giuliani. On 9/11, he went charging right into Ground Zero to see whom he could help save. Everyone loved Rudy because he seemed as though he was there to comfort all Americans, not just members of his own party.But in his speech to the convention this week, he revised the history of that tragic day for partisan gain:As chaos ensued, "spontaneously, I grabbed the arm of then-police commissioner Bernard Kerik and said to Bernie, 'Thank God George Bush is our president.' And I say it again tonight, 'Thank God George Bush is our president.' "Please.There were the sub-par entertainers nobody knew. There was the show of "Black Republicans," "Arab-American Republicans" and other minorities they trot out to show how much they are loved by groups their policies abuse.And there were the Band-Aids. The worst display of how out of touch the Republicans are was those Purple Heart Band-Aids the delegates wore to mock Kerry over his war wounds, which, for them, did not spill the required amount of blood.What they didn't seem to get is that watching at home might have been millions of war veterans feeling that they were being ridiculed by a bunch of rich Republicans who would never send their own offspring to die in Fallujah or Danang.Kerry supporters and Bush-bashers should not despair. These Republicans have not made a permanent dent in Kerry's armor. The only person who can do that is John Kerry. And by coming out swinging as he did just minutes after Bush finished his speech Thursday night, Kerry proved he knows that the only way to win this fight is to fight — and fight hard.He must realize that he faces Al Gore's fate only if he fails to stand up like the hero he is, only if he sits on the fence and keeps justifying his vote for the Iraq war instead of just saying, "Look, I was for it just like 70% of America until we learned the truth, and now I'm against it, like the majority of Americans are now."Kerry needs to trust that his victory is only going to happen by inspiring the natural base of the Democratic Party — blacks, working people, women, the poor and young people. Women and people of color make up 62% of this country. That's a big majority. Give them a reason to come out on Nov. 2.
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 18:21:41 PT

kapt
We have the Internet and it is really shedding light on oh so much. I like looking at stats from sales on Amazon.com since we had a Video store years ago I picked up the habit of studying stats. I'm hoping that the maturing of the Internet will help us keep whoever is our next president in tune with how people feel. If they don't listen protests like the one in New York will get even bigger. We need to stand for what we believe in. Check out the reviews on these links. I hate it or I love it they say. We are divided to the point that cultures are or will be at war for a long time to come it seems.*** Revolution Starts Now - Number 16 currently at Amazon:http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002IQHV6/qid=1094260187/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-2838112-8655036?v=glance&s=music&n=507846***Fahrenheit 9/11 - Number 8 currently at Amazon:http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005JNEI/ref=cm_ea_pl_prod_2/103-2838112-8655036***Outfoxed - Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism - Number 13 currently at Amazon:http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002HDXTQ/ref=cm_ea_pl_prod_1/103-2838112-8655036
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Comment #31 posted by kaptinemo on September 03, 2004 at 18:05:17 PT:

FoM, I partly agree
I've been avoiding watching the R's convention, as much as I avoided watching the D's convention. Because, in my book, they are really nought but two halves of the "E's" convention. "E" as in "Elite".I realize that for many readers, they will be turned off as soon as the comparison is made between today and say, Berlin in the early 1930's. But the parallels are too striking for this humble student of history to avoid noticing. While the Nazi leadership made much of their being of common origins, standing up for and representing the 'common man' (and who pray tell is that, when we are all unique individuals?) they were busily engaged in stealing as much wealth as they could. Hermann Goering used to say that when he heard the word 'culture', he felt a need to reach for a pistol...while in fact he looted Europe's art treasures to surround himself with as many trappings of the 'culture' he supposedly despised. That same kind of hypocrisy is at work today. Both parties loudly proclaim to be for the little people, while feverishly pickpocketing the public's wallets and purses while they are distracted with the 'passion play' of American politics. Bush is but the more cruder version of this at work; for more polished forms of theft, you can expect Mr. Kerry to be much smoother. But no less rapacious, as he has already signaled his fealty to America's politcal masters by stating we will remain in Iraq. Kerry's inauguration may be only slowing our slide down the greasy slope, but it certainly won't stop it. We may get a breather, but it won't last. And if there is drug law reform on his watch, it's only because the cash-cow of hidden benefits to politicians, judges, cops, bankers, etc. that has fed things from behind the scenes has outlasted its' usefulness and can be safely discarded. And that's not too likely without MASSIVE public outcry against the drug laws. The kind the mass dissemination of cannabis's anti-cancer properties might elicit.I agree that the next 4 years could quite likely be worse than the previous four. The forces set into motion by Bush cannot be stopped by Kerry. Too much has already happened for that. Yet I still have hope that, as the old poem says, the 'sheep' will 'look up'. And realize that it's time to stop scratching and chewing and time to get ticked off at being sheared all the time.
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Comment #30 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 16:56:00 PT

kapt
Jose will be ok. I agree he is a survivor. We know when to act and when we need to just be still. After watching the RNC last night I tried to remove myself from how I feel and see if Bush could convince me he is the man for the job. Guess what. He did convince me. I am not convinced but I can see why he got such a bump. It looks like 4 more years of Bush if Kerry doesn't do something. I think I will start to try to look at how it will be with Bush and Ashcroft for 4 more years and try to figure out how we should approach it all concerning Cannabis. It looks like it could be a real rough road for us now.
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Comment #29 posted by kaptinemo on September 03, 2004 at 16:34:52 PT:

I'm sure Jose will be all right.
He must know we're concerned. But like all of us, he's a survivor. He's probably incommunicado in a shelter somewhere, waiting for the first winds to strike. Having lived through two hurricanes myself, you learn real quick what to do, and he's probably had far more experience than most of us ever will. He'll pull through.
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Comment #28 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 16:20:13 PT

BGreen
That hurricane is going to dump a lot of water in Florida. I hope Jose will be ok. We can fight issues and sometimes we win but nature is the boss of us all. It's very humbling to realize how vunerable we all really are. 
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Comment #27 posted by BGreen on September 03, 2004 at 11:55:44 PT

I Think Jose Can Use Our Prayers and Best Wishes
The current storm track for hurricane Frances has it headed nearly straight towards the hometown of Jose Melendez with the eye to be there at about 8 A.M. Sunday morning.God be with you, Jose. I hope you've gone to a safe place to ride out the storm by now.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #26 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 11:21:04 PT

Mozart
One of Mozart's sonatas, I think...has demonstrated cells actually healing when exposed to it. Read that in some science report somewhere...maybe this evening I can find it.
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 11:18:47 PT

Music
They had a special on the Discovery Channel about music and it's healing power. They showed a man who had advanced Alzeimer's Disease and didn't recognize his wife anymore. They played a song they both loved when they were dating and he got up and danced with her. It was remarkable to see. There was alot more then what I just said too.
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Comment #24 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 11:18:32 PT

Me, too
Gotta go...but God willing...I shall return! See you then, FoM. Have a great day and take care.
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Comment #23 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 11:16:56 PT

That accent of ours
that so many people seem to despise...sounds damn good with a good guitar.
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Comment #22 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 11:16:02 PT

Steve Earle IS a part of the Texas Music Scene
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Steve-Earle
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 11:15:28 PT

One More Thing
I have to go away for a couple hours. If I don't get back with a comment I will later on. Every since we saw Neil Young last June I have met people on a board that love music. I was just sent a 5 disc set of NY's music that hasn't been put on CD. It's called ABD 2000. ABD stands for Archives Be Damned! LOL! 
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Comment #20 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 11:12:49 PT

Music has great and subtle power
When I'm down in my back...it helps so much. It's as obvious to my body as a muscle relaxant. Music is wonderful and has a lot of power.
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 11:09:54 PT

Hope
That makes sense. He has a very gritty unique sound. I watched Joe Scarborough and Ron Reagan as they held the mike for Steve Earle to sing and they both seemed like they melted into the spirit of the song. Ron said he would like the music but Joe might not and Joe jumped in and said no go ahead play it or something like that. Music has power that no words can compete with.
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Comment #18 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 11:09:18 PT

music
I haven't been much on collecting music in the last few years...but I love...absolutely love that Hill Country Sound...as some call it...coming from the "hills" around Austin. One station around here sometimes devotes Sunday afternoons to the Texas music scene. It's absolutely great.I want to own some of the more recent music like this. Guess I better get after it.
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Comment #17 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 11:04:15 PT

It's a familiar sound from the Austin area
It's a type of country and rock and folk ballad singing that I first heard coming out of the Austin area. Some people call it Texana and something else...it escapes me. 
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 10:59:33 PT

Hope
I removed the extra post. That's no problem at all. I call it a hiccup! LOL!The problem with sudden heart attacks in the 50s is that you are still busy and working and full of energy but your heart has been hammered by life. About Steve Earle his music is really new to me. My husband remembered a song called Copperhead Road from years ago and that's why we bought Just An American Boy. That's when I discovered he is good. He's country but not really. I don't know how his music is classified. 
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Comment #15 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 10:59:20 PT

Blues Brothers
I only saw the Blues Brothers movie once and I do remember Cab Calloway in it. But the cartoons were often repeated and repeated. Seems I can recall cartoon characters doing a sort of slinky, step, slide, step sort of "moonwalk" dance to the Cab Calloway music. It stayed with me. It was cool.
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Comment #14 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 10:53:33 PT

Earle...Clinton
Steve Earle's voice made me think of a Texan, Jerry Jeff Walker, who has a similar sound. I hope Clinton makes it ok, too. The fifties are kind of scary...spect it will be worse in the sixties, seventies, and on and on. If I can do as well as my ninety three year old grandmother...I will be thrilled. She's sharp as a tack and although she's in a wheelchair most of the time, she still brews up fantastic meals for all of us when we are over at her farm twice a week helping her do all the work she can no longer do alone.
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 10:46:24 PT

Hope
I'm glad you could hear it a little. Steve Earle has made some music that is really out of this world. We bought Just an American Boy. He sings a song on that CD that I stood at the sliding glass door while the sun was shining and a beautiful breeze was blowing in and I felt like I was transported somewhere. It was awesome. Steve Earle has battled heroin and I think coke and alcohol addiction thru his life. He went to jail too. It seems those who go down so low that they have to look up to see light give us what really is important in life.PS: I hope Clinton will come thru his surgery fine. I worry because the 50s are the time when people's hearts start giving them grief. We've lost a few people we knew recently because of a sudden heart attack.
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Comment #12 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 10:46:22 PT

Cab Calloway!
That's right! Thanks, BGreen!My "acute allergic rhinitus" as been giving me a very hard time for about two weeks now. Can't think, can barely hear, can barely breathe...am pretty miserable. I thank God for Drixoral...or any life at all would just be impossible for me.Drug free? No way. 
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Comment #11 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 10:40:58 PT

Sorry, FoM
Not sure how I managed that double post! Too much going on here and too much of a hurry, I guess.
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Comment #10 posted by BGreen on September 03, 2004 at 10:40:00 PT

Cab Calloway Was A Viper
which was slang in the jazz music world for being a cannabis smoker. He recorded the song "Reefer Man" in 1932!Who could forget his rendition of "Minnie The Mooch" in the first "Blues Brothers" movie? The late great Ray Charles was also hilarious in that movie.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #8 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 10:36:00 PT

FoM
Thanks to Kap's help...my computer is a bit clearer...that song...even though it breaks up...what I have heard...made chill bumps on me.I'll keep trying to listen to it. Thanks.

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Comment #7 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 10:22:57 PT

Hope and Everyone
Last night on MSNBC at the close of the RNC in their after hour segment Ron Reagan and Joe Scarborough had Steve Earle on and he sang this song. What a wonderful song to end the RNC. I went and ordered his new CD after hearing him sing it. My husband heard it too and he thought it was great.It's called: Just Another Poor Boy Fighting a Rich Man's War. I wish you could hear these songs but I know you have trouble because of your puter.http://www.artemisrecords.com/media/SteveEarle-RichMansWar.ram
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Comment #6 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 10:21:05 PT

I remember the song well
from hearing it often on the old televised cartoons we watched as children. The cartoons were older than TV but they were great. "If I'd known you were coming I'd have baked a cake" and "Sorry, we have no bananas today" and there was an old Cab Caleb (I think that name's right) about "Minnie the Moocher" that was used in cartoons often, too. 
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 10:15:14 PT

Hope
I'm still humming along to If I Knew Your Were Coming. I love the Internet and how it makes life so much fun sometimes. Stick didn't know there was a song just the expression. Kapt is a good guy. 
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Comment #4 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 09:50:25 PT

Thanks, FoM
I meant to ask about it yesterday...but forgot all about it once I got in.Thanks. It sure was good to hear from the Kaptin, this morning.
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 09:46:34 PT

Hope
No I had the same error. I don't know for sure but it was time to do the monthly reports and maybe it caused too much of a load for awhile. If it had been down much longer I would have e-mail Matt and let him know but it came back so I didn't try to contact him.
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Comment #2 posted by Hope on September 03, 2004 at 09:39:23 PT

off topic
Did anyone else here have trouble getting on CNews yesterday morning? I did.Kept saying something about "CGI"s and "forks". Didn't last too long...less than an hour.Was it just my computer?
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on September 03, 2004 at 09:31:10 PT

Related Article from The Times Record 
Marijuana Issue May Go Up In Smoke By Rob Moritz, Arkansas News Bureau Friday, September 03, 2004 LITTLE ROCK — A proposal to legalize marijuana for medical use does not appear to have enough signatures to get on the Nov. 2 ballot, the general counsel for the secretary of state’s office said Thursday.“It’s not looking very good,” said Tim Humphries, adding that about half of the signatures on petitions already counted could not be certified as those of registered voters.“They still need another 23,000 to get on the ballot and there are just about 24,000 (signatures) left to count,” Humphries said. “If that verification rate holds it will not get on the ballot. They would have to have a 90 percent verification rate for the rest.”Humphries said he expects workers to complete the count sometime today.Under the proposed initiated act, a doctor would have to sign off on the drug’s use. Eligible patients would be those with debilitating medical conditions such as cancer, glaucoma, HIV/AIDS or another chronic or debilitating disease that causes severe pain.Supporters have said the proposal would not open the door for legalization of marijuana in the state, as some critics have alleged.Denele Campbell, executive director for the Alliance for Drug Policy in Arkansas, could not be reached for comment late Thursday.Earlier this week, however, she said she was aware that the proposal might come up short in the number of proper signatures to be on the Nov. 2 ballot.In July, supporters brought in about 66,000 signatures to get the measure on the ballot. The secretary of state’s office, however, said just 29,947 of the nearly 49,000 signatures counted were certified. Just over 17,000 were discarded because they had not been notarized.Last week, supporters resubmitted the more than 17,000 after getting them notarized and submitted 30,000 new signatures.To get a proposed initiated act on the ballot, 64,465 signatures of registered voters are needed.A proposed constitutional amendment that would define marriage as between a man and a woman has already been certified for the ballot by the secretary of state’s office.Copyright: Stephens Media Group, 2004 
http://www.swtimes.com/archive/2004/September/03/news/marijuana.html
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