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Pot Bust Protest at Police Station 
Posted by CN Staff on July 14, 2004 at 08:07:43 PT
By Patrick Hoge, Chronicle Staff Writer 
Source: San Francisco Chronicle 
Demonstrators planted small marijuana plants and scattered hemp seeds outside a California Highway Patrol office in Oakland on Tuesday to protest the recent arrests of four people for growing pot, supposedly for medical use. The 30 protesters, some openly smoking marijuana from a pipe and several in wheelchairs, denounced the CHP for calling in the federal Drug Enforcement Administration this month after a state officer discovered 4,000 marijuana plants growing in a West Oakland warehouse.
Medical marijuana advocates say the herb was destined for sick people, while state officers said they had no indication the warehouse operation was anything more than a criminal enterprise. As soon as the demonstration concluded, two CHP officers wearing elastic gloves went to the landscaped area where the seven green plants were poking out of the ground and dug them up, placing them into a brown evidence bag. Capt. Jim Leonard said he had not realized what the protesters were doing because he had not posted an officer to monitor the demonstration, which took place on a city sidewalk. "If I had known what they were doing, I might have done something different,'' he said. Among those demonstrating were Angel McClary Raich, who is currently being sued by the federal Justice Department over medical marijuana use in a case pending before the U.S. Supreme Court; and Ed Rosenthal, a marijuana advocate found guilty by a San Francisco federal jury last year of growing pot for a cooperative that supplied patients.Snipped: Complete Article: http://freedomtoexhale.com/station.htmSource: San Francisco Chronicle (CA)Author: Patrick Hoge, Chronicle Staff Writer Published: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - Page B - 5 Copyright: 2004 San Francisco Chronicle Contact: letters sfchronicle.comWebsite: http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/Related Articles & Web Sites:Angel Raich v. Ashcroft Newshttp://freedomtoexhale.com/raich.htmEd Rosenthal's Pictures & Newshttp://freedomtoexhale.com/trialpics.htm Activists Plant Marijuana Outside CHP Officehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19178.shtmlDay After Pot Bust, Details Still Hazyhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19120.shtmlBig Dispute In City Pot Bust http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19110.shtml 
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on July 14, 2004 at 19:58:01 PT
Heads Up: History Channel - Hooked: Illegal Drugs
Coming on at 11 ET on Direct TV on Channel 269 they will be showing a repeat show of Hooked: Illegal Drugs. http://www.historychannel.com/
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Comment #33 posted by sukoi on July 14, 2004 at 18:38:40 PT:
Agog
"I use it medically with legitimate doctor recommendation to control Hypertension."Please email me as I have this same "affliction" and would like to know more. I'd really appreciate any info. that you may have!Thanks,
Sukoi!
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on July 14, 2004 at 18:09:08 PT
shrox 
I'm sorry to read that. This shouldn't be a hot potato. 
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Comment #31 posted by shrox on July 14, 2004 at 18:06:24 PT
Inaction by Parkinson's groups
FoM, I have written and called the Michael J. Fox Foundation as well as three other national Parkinson's groups.Not interested.Hot potato.No thank you, but may we have your credit card number for a donation?In general they are not willing to even try.Fox did describe Parkinson's accurately though. It is like knowing that you are going to be hit by a bus, but that bus is still twelve blocks away and you know it is going to crush you no matter what and there is nothing you can do about it.shrox
http://www.shrox.com/spiceflow.html
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Comment #30 posted by mayan on July 14, 2004 at 18:04:04 PT
Keep Voting!
It's very close!A proposal to legalize marijuana for individuals with a medical need will appear on the ballot in Detroit. How would you vote?
 Yes - 50.91%
 No - 49.09% Here's the poll...
http://www.detnews.com/2004/politics/0407/14/c01-212245.htm
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Comment #29 posted by shrox on July 14, 2004 at 17:59:03 PT
Absolutely necessary
Three years ago I was crawling up the stairs of our house. Now with medical cannabis the new doctor I saw last month did not think I have Parkinson's! I still do because if I don't take it for 4-8 hours the tightness begins, after 12-16 hours the tremors return, 24-36 hours and I am all curled up in a twitching mass. Without cannabis I lose control of my bowels. With cannabis I raced in a one mile street luge race.I refuse to return to that state of helplessness and embarrassment ever again.
http://www.shrox.com/spiceflow.html
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Comment #28 posted by mayan on July 14, 2004 at 17:58:48 PT
Jose...
It's assuring to know that the Greek authorities have time to eradicate those dangerous cannabis plants! Many athletes,especially Americans, are refusing to attend the games as they have major doubts about the security there. I'm sure they'll change their minds now that they know the Greeks have their priorities straightened out!On an unrelated note, Mike Ruppert speaks of postponed elections...Postponement of the November Election - by Michael C. Ruppert: 
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/061204_election_delayed.shtmlThe way out is the way in...Feds knew about 9/11 bribery conspiracy before attacks:
http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=68Speechless - Ashcroft again screws down the lid on whistle-blower Sibel Edmonds:
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0428/mondo1.php9/11 - ARE AMERICANS THE VICTIMS OF A HOAX?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hoax.html9/11 Prior Knowledge/Government Involvement Archive:
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archiveprior_knowledge.html
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Comment #27 posted by Agog on July 14, 2004 at 17:45:57 PT
Med uses of Cannabis
It is interesting to note that in order to qualify in most cases to use cannabis as medicine you nearly do have to be dying....certainly not funny at all, but the association of cannabis and "alternative lifestyles" probably developed because those with the most compromised immune systems found relief through cannabis. And unfortunately, many folks, myself included were too intimidated by threat of law enforcement from those who are "here to help" to speak up and help carry the cause forward. The issues hadn't touched us dramatically enough to prod us to action. But one trip to the doctor can change all that......I use it medically with legitimate doctor recommendation to control Hypertension. In this role I have found that an olive oil and bud emulsion that has been allowed to "steep" for a few days provides about 4-6 hours of control at a dosage of maybe 1 level teaspoon. I just incorporate it at meal times and it does the job. All the rest of the BP meds out there can have nasty side effects especially in the long term.. I'm thankfully healthy otherwise and it seems that this course of action is the most sensible one. I use a substance that has remarkably low toxicity and side effects and get significant control of the condition.... works for me.All the BestAgog
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Comment #26 posted by Jose Melendez on July 14, 2004 at 17:16:56 PT
shining light on the subject
CNN: Olympic torch leads to cannabis bust:http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/07/14/flame.cannabis.reut/index.html
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on July 14, 2004 at 17:11:34 PT
shrox
Montel Williams is bringing much needed light to MS. If Michael J. Fox would speak about Cannabis it would help wouldn't it? I assume he would use Cannabis if necessary. Just an idea.
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Comment #24 posted by shrox on July 14, 2004 at 17:02:54 PT
Public attention
Jose Melendez makes another point about assumsions and cannabis. The AIDS lobbies and groups have brought world focus upon the subject of AIDS. Most states now give some nod at least to AIDS cannabis patients. How can we get expand that focus to the larger group of cannabis patients outside of the AIDS inclusions?shrox
http://www.shrox.com/spiceflow.html
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Comment #23 posted by Jose Melendez on July 14, 2004 at 16:36:24 PT
bias all around
Here in Florida everyone tells me I have to have stomach cancer or AIDS to qualify for Marinol.My back and neck are verifiably injured and "legal" medications simply do not let me work.By the way, Tommy Chong's Toniight Show appearance is on pot-tv at:http://www.pot-tv.net/archive/shows/pottvshowse-2812.htmlWage peace, all. Drug War IS Crime.Jose Melendezfounder, RxPot.com
Free video downloads - listen to cops explain why drug war is fraud.
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Comment #22 posted by E_Johnson on July 14, 2004 at 15:03:41 PT
Clarification for shrox
"Perhaps my earlier comment was misunderstood. When I have told doctors that I use medical cannabis, one of their first questions was whether or not I was gay or had been diagnosed with AIDS or other autoimmune disease."Just as a note, AIDS and autoimmune diseases are completely different things. AIDS is when the immune system is infected by a virus. An autoimmune disease is when the immune system attacks the body itself spontaneously for no ezternal reason that anyone can find. AIDS is communicable, an autoimmune disease is not.
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Comment #21 posted by dongenero on July 14, 2004 at 13:56:03 PT
sorry shrox
It's okay shrox, It's calm and rational here. 
In the interest of rational however, I had to jump on your comment a bit.
Enough of it though, since we're off topic for a cannabis forum. The points have been expressed. Peace. 
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Comment #20 posted by shrox on July 14, 2004 at 13:41:50 PT
Calm yourselves everyone!
When I say defend, I don't mean in court! I mean in general conversation or rational dicussion. Have I said that I am a Quaker minister? True Friends will know however there are no ministers amongst Quakers, but that is a close enough term.shrox
http://www.shrox.com/spiceflow.html
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Comment #19 posted by dongenero on July 14, 2004 at 13:17:49 PT
calling it like I see it
I was referring to this one:"On marriage, it is excusively between a man and woman. It does not extend to any other type of union. Sorry, but this is one establishment I will defend.shrox"
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Comment #18 posted by shrox on July 14, 2004 at 13:14:36 PT
Clarification maybe
Perhaps my earlier comment was misunderstood. When I have told doctors that I use medical cannabis, one of their first questions was whether or not I was gay or had been diagnosed with AIDS or other autoimmune disease. At work someone asked about AIDS when I told a small group about my Parkinson's disease at work, even though I had just clearly explained that I used it for Parkinson's.That is what made me think about how a medical cannabis user is thought of by the public. Sure they think we should have it, but I don't want to pigeon holed in a certain group or another.shrox
http://www.shrox.com/spiceflow.html
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Comment #17 posted by shrox on July 14, 2004 at 13:00:28 PT
Your value
(I am speaking only about straight couples because that is the only lifestyle I know. Yes, I know plenty of gay people, my wife was a para-legal with the EEOC in San Francisco for 10 years until 2001.)A 100% divorce rate is certainly believeable, and I'll bet 100% of them shacked up before getting married. Probably 50% had kids then split up. It is funny how people say that the values of not living together and having sex before marriage are unrealisitic, yet they all have a long string of failed relationships to point to. Those that follow the traditional rules often have a lifetime love.Don't stay in any relationship that is abusive, straight or gay, married or not. Be smart about what you are worth.shrox
http://www.shrox.com/spiceflow.html
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Comment #16 posted by dongenero on July 14, 2004 at 12:49:34 PT
again, sorry
If you're not gay and wanting to get married then what business is it of yours???
It strikes me in the same way as someone saying "I don't want to smoke pot so, nobody should be able to smoke pot."If it has nothing to do with you, harms no one, then keep your nose out of it. To position yourself otherwise and then rail against cannabis prohibition in here is hypocrisy.whew, now I've gotten that off of my chest
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Comment #15 posted by dongenero on July 14, 2004 at 12:39:39 PT
same sex marriage 
sorry, off topic but had to respond...
I know a couple of retired women who have been together for 30 years. They are as "married" as my wife and I and for 3 times as long. They are more "married" than many of the conventional couples I know. I can't think of a reason why their union should have any less rights than mine...including the semantics.By the way, here's the Merriam-Webster definition:Main Entry: mar·riage
Pronunciation: 'mer-ij, 'ma-rij
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English mariage, from Anglo-French, from marier to marry
1 a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage  b : the mutual relation of married persons : WEDLOCK c : the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage
2 : an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities
3 : an intimate or close union 
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Comment #14 posted by Petard on July 14, 2004 at 12:36:39 PT
Shrox, 2 things
I think a better MMJ protest would not only involve the suit and tie crowd (which BTW it really makes no sense for guys to start off their day tying a noose around their own neck), but I would enjoy a variation of the old "rock n' roll is evil" album/cassette/CD crushing involving pills of all kinds. Picture it: a large group of business attired people gathered together in front of a steam roller tossing pills and pill bottles in front of the massive thing to be crushed and then burned, while holding signs that read something along the lines of "Pharmaceuticals are the work of the Devil", "Pharma's rot brains", "Pharma's destroy the liver", "Pharma's Kill", etc..As far as the Gay Marriage thing, if society would give gay couples the same legal benefits and rights of heterosexual couples they wouldn't need a certificate of state sanctioning anyway. And for the Holier than Thou set who oppose it on a so-called Biblical basis, why not another amendment to force siblings to marry the widows, to ensure the eldest child is married before the younger ones, to allow polygamy and concubines, and to disallow divorce for anything other than adultery (which would be punishable by death BTW)? Hell, when Oklahoma has had at least a 100% divorce rate for the last decade (some years exceeding 100% with more divorces than marriages being recorded) why should marriage still be a legal act in that state in the first place? I even remember seeing Yellow Pages coupons for a discount on "divorces with children" in the Tulsa phone directory. Kinda shoots down the "destroys families" rationale behind banning same sex marriages.Of course another alternative would be for the government to disallow any and all advantages to being married in the first place. No tax credits, no heirship, no survivor benefts, etc., etc.. But they'd never go for that as that would promote individualism, something the government is attempting to destroy in it's totality.
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Comment #13 posted by shrox on July 14, 2004 at 12:09:33 PT
How it is percived
I don't think that a constitutional amendment is in order about marriage. The constitution is to give and define rights to citizens, not to diminish rights. While I believe that marriage is excusively between a man and woman (or a woman and man), to add something to the constitution that is prohibitive is not consistant with the spirit of the document.I do not like the tie between homosexual lifestyles and medical cannabis. Indeed, many average Janes and Joes think that if you are a cannabis patient, you are gay and dying of AIDS. That is obviously not true. I think this perception about the "gayness" of medical cannabis does influnce the decisions of people like Councilman Sander.I would like to see a protest where everyone shows up in suits and ties to show that not just "hippies" and those on the fringe find relief with medical cannabis.shrox
http://www.shrox.com/spiceflow.html
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on July 14, 2004 at 11:49:36 PT
ubas 
Thank you! Then it's time to re-schedule! 
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Comment #11 posted by ubas on July 14, 2004 at 11:46:03 PT
FOM's Question
Marijuana is illegal federally because of its Sched I placement in the 1970 Controlled Substances Act. The 1937 tax act law was struck down by the Supremes as unconstitutional in 1969. The '37 act has no legal weight today.
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on July 14, 2004 at 11:27:51 PT
A Question
OK this might seem very dumb but the Gay Rights issue has got me thinking. They needed a constitutional amendment to make alcohol illegal but just a tax stamp for marijuana right? Since they haven't made a way for good citizens to get a tax stamp why is cannabis against the law actually?With Values Like These . . . : http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48223-2004Jul13.html
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Comment #9 posted by shrox on July 14, 2004 at 11:23:30 PT
Marriage
On marriage, it is excusively between a man and woman. It does not extend to any other type of union. Sorry, but this is one establishment I will defend.shrox
http://www.shrox.com/spiceflow.html
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Comment #8 posted by shrox on July 14, 2004 at 11:19:13 PT
Clueless
"Capt. Jim Leonard said he had not realized what the protesters were doing..."He doesn't know what his own officers are doing either.shrox 
http://www.shrox.com/spiceflow.html
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Comment #7 posted by mamawillie on July 14, 2004 at 11:14:45 PT
I can't help but to think
Those poor marijuana plants... sacrificed for the cause. lol. Someone could have used those plants... someone's pain would have been eased.Tis a shame....
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on July 14, 2004 at 11:13:46 PT
Off Topic: Breaking News
Senate Blocks Bush Move to Ban Same-Sex Marriage: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5670610
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on July 14, 2004 at 10:54:08 PT
A Beatles Article
Martin Ignorant of Beatles' Drug Habits online.ie July 14, 2004
 
The beatles' producer and friend George Martin has only recently discovered the band's later albums were influenced by drugs.Rock veteran Paul McCartney has confessed the group hid their drug habits from Martin and waited years before finally telling him albums like Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band were stimulated by illegal substances like cocaine and marijuana.McCartney says: "I did coke for about a year around that time. Coke and maybe some grass to balance it out. When you start working your way through it, you start thinking: 'Mmm, this is not so cool an idea.'"But around the time of Pepper, we were all into one thing or another. We would sneak stuff into the studio and we had to hide it from George Martin. George, bless him, was such a gentleman, so we'd never do anything like that in front of him."It was only later that we told him that some of the later albums had been drug- influenced. He had no idea." 
 
 
 http://www.online.ie/entertainment/viewer.adp?article=3136705 
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on July 14, 2004 at 10:46:28 PT
AP: Entertainment Highlights in History
Check this out!1967: The Beatles took out an ad in a London newspaper, urging the British government to legalize marijuana.Complete Article: http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/entertainment/9152798.htm
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Comment #3 posted by E_Johnson on July 14, 2004 at 09:40:41 PT
Here's a nice surprise
An honest cop on the LAPD, this is a good news day: an LAPD officer is contesting a falsified arrest report that is being used as an excuse for a beating. The official claim is that the suspect had wire cutters in his pocket, so he wasn't unarmed as claimed in the media. But the wire cutters were not in his pocket, another cop has come forward to say:"But Officer Peter Bueno, who recovered the cutters, has notified department officials through his attorney that the arrest report is incorrect, according to a source close to the investigation. Bueno, who is seen on the videotapes of the beating kneeing Miller, says the cutters were found in the white Toyota Camry that Miller allegedly stole before his arrest, the source said."http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-beating14jul14,1,2303001.story?coll=la-home-headlinesBueno is living up to his name.
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Comment #2 posted by Max Flowers on July 14, 2004 at 09:15:13 PT
CHP turncoats
CHP is sworn to protect motorists on the highways. They are out of their element trying to do pot busts. They are also sworn to uphold California laws. By ignoring H&S 11362 and turning over the case to the feds, they betrayed their fellow CA residents. Bastards.Yes, I know they tried to give it to Oakland police and Oakland police advised them to give it to the feds. Oakland police were wrong as well, and CHP had the choice not to give it to the feds. Once they handed it to Oakland, they should have walked away from it.
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Comment #1 posted by Truth on July 14, 2004 at 08:23:28 PT
yes
You grow kids.
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