cannabisnews.com: Judge Voids Law Against Drug Ads On Metro Judge Voids Law Against Drug Ads On Metro Posted by CN Staff on June 02, 2004 at 20:03:21 PT By Carol D. Leonnig, Washington Post Staff Writer Source: Washington Post A federal law aimed at keeping advertisements critical of national drug policy out of Metro stations and bus shelters illegally chills free speech and cannot stand, a federal judge ruled yesterday. U.S. District Judge Paul L. Friedman barred the U.S. government from enforcing a law passed by Congress this year that called for denying federal transportation money to any transit system that accepted ads promoting the legalization of drugs. Drug advocacy groups that sponsored the ads applauded the decision, which came in a lawsuit they filed against Congress and Metro. They predicted that Metro officials will soon accept their ads in stations and shelters. "I'm just absolutely delighted that free speech is alive and well in this country and that we can finally have a debate about reforming marijuana laws instead of being force-fed the government's one-sided views on marijuana," said Joseph White, executive director of Change the Climate, one of the plaintiffs in the suit. Metro spokesman Steven Taubenkibel declined to comment, saying the decision was under review. U.S. Justice Department officials said that they were analyzing the ruling and that it was too early to say whether it would be appealed. Snipped: Complete Article: http://freedomtoexhale.com/metro.htmSource: Washington Post (DC)Author: Carol D. Leonnig, Washington Post Staff WriterPublished: Thursday, June 3, 2004; Page B01 Copyright: 2004 Washington Post Contact: letterstoed washpost.comWebsite: http://www.washingtonpost.com Related Articles & Web Sites:ACLUhttp://www.aclu.org/Change The Climatehttp://www.changetheclimate.org/Judge: Ad Restrictions Unconstitutionalhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18940.shtmlChallenge To Metro Ad Curb Argued http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18750.shtmlMetro's Pro-Pot Ads Get Attention On Hillhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17895.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #40 posted by FoM on June 04, 2004 at 09:48:01 PT One More of The Lyrics These aren't released and they are so darn good. Hopefully the words will help explain why these two songs are so good. They should be released.God's Perfect Plan: http://www.hyperrust.org/cgi-bin/m.pl?214 [ Post Comment ] Comment #39 posted by FoM on June 04, 2004 at 09:39:12 PT Here Are The Lyrics To One Of The Songs Time Off For Good Behavior: http://www.hyperrust.org/cgi-bin/m.pl?317 [ Post Comment ] Comment #38 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 21:25:26 PT ekim It could be a name of a song but I really only have Greendale memorized. The Greendale Tour is over now. I would love to see it again but I don't think he will tour with it again. I got to see Greendale two times and it was out of this world. I know that his music is very pro-cannabis but I don't know if he wants to get into issues. Maybe he will. He seems to do what stricks his fancy. We can hope! I have met the nicest people that are Neil Young Fans. [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by ekim on June 03, 2004 at 20:41:11 PT i thought that that was the name of a tune of his maybe it was one from the whole gang.maybe Neil could do a benifit for NV and AK and MI and others --something like Farm Aid and could get Willie i bet. what is the play he is doing Green dale -- i wonder how much could be raised and what tv time could be paid for not to mention bill boards and metro adds i wonder if Cannabis Yes can be placed on rolling truck trailers seems that that would be the ultimate bill board with www address along with fone number for more information. http://www.minorml.org [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 20:18:40 PT ekim I sure would answer you but I don't understand your question. What do you mean Clear Blue Skys? [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by ekim on June 03, 2004 at 20:02:30 PT FoM does it have Clear Blue Skys is that too much to ask for////clean waterrrrrrr http://www.mmdetroit.org [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 19:42:01 PT afterburner I hadn't looked at the url for the music and when I did it gives the name of the songs and more. Here's the link. NY - Rarities [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 18:51:38 PT afterburner That's a beautiful song. I've always loved it. I received a gift of music today. I've been listening to it all day and I am truly amazed at the great music I never heard by Neil Young. One song is about a brother who is in jail for selling what he's smoked his whole life and another one that was a beautiful song was called In God's Perfect World or I think that's what it was called. Music touches our very soul. That's the wonder of music. [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by afterburner on June 03, 2004 at 18:31:01 PT: Here Was a Man of Heart An Advocate for love of family and humanity: Marvin Gaye' Mother, mother There's too many of you crying Brother, brother, brother There's far too many of you dying You know we've got to find a way To bring some lovin' here today - Ya' Father, father We don't need to escalate You see, war is not the answer For only love can conquer hate You know we've got to find a way To bring some lovin' here today' Picket lines and picket signs Don't punish me with brutality Talk to me, so you can see Oh, what's going on What's going on Ya, what's going on Ah, what's going on' In the mean time Right on, baby Right on Right on' Mother, Mother, everybody thinks we're wrong Oh, but who are they to judge us Simply because our hair is long Oh, you know we've got to find a way To bring some understanding here today Oh' Picket lines and picket signs Don't punish me with brutality Talk to me So you can see What's going on Ya, what's going on Tell me what's going on I'll tell you what's going on - Uh Right on baby Right on babyMarvin Gaye - What's Going On (Original) Lyrics http://www.lyrics007.com/Marvin%20Gaye%20Lyrics/What's%20Going%20On%20(Original)%20Lyrics.htmlIt takes a village to raise a child. It takes a Miracleplant to heal a troubled land. Take care of each other and stand your ground. [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 17:00:45 PT EJ I Don't Look Good In a Suit! I couldn't help saying that. I've been cleaning and I think the fumes have gotten to me a little. LOL! [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by E_Johnson on June 03, 2004 at 16:24:01 PT The suit thing stops me cold That suit fetish Libertarians have is a deal breaker for me. Suits don't look good one me. I can't think about Libertarianism without feeling like I'm wearing clothing that does not suit me whatsoever. [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 16:14:08 PT Agog, We've Got To Have Heart! That's what I call it! We only pass this way once. We only have this moment in time and we need to use this precious gift of life wisely. No time to waste. The world is spinning out of control and we need to slow it down even if we can't stop it. When it's time to leave this world we should be proud of the work we have done even if it doesn't accomplish what we really wanted. If we learn from life's hard knocks we will be better for it. As far as hits go this past month was slow and the stats were broken but the total for April was over 3,250,000 total hits for the month and I think that was a record or close to it. You're right on my name and one other way of what it means but I don't think I'll post it! LOL! [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by Agog on June 03, 2004 at 15:49:23 PT: FOM - Motivation Hi FOM,There indeed are many overwhelming issues that we face daily, those population numbers are staggering and until you shared them here something of which I was unaware.Your question regarding motivation is most important here for the short term though. Actually, I think that you are tremendous source of motivation in this community. Distilling it down I can list:Constancy of effort Genuine concern born of personal experiences Respect for others (whether in agreement or not) Lack of arrogance Leadership by example Courage in the face of adversityThose are some of the motivating factors you contribute to the climate of change we are working towards. Without getting knee deep in text book definititions.....I think we get "motivated" either from extreme dissatisfaction/need/dire circumstance or something along those lines. Folks come to your site because they are interested in the issue.... med users, family of med users, recreational users, true patriots that hate the dismantling of the Constitution, lurkers who have vested interest in the status quo, people that have had their lives turned upside down because of the status quo, folks who see lots of contradictions out there and are just interested in the truth. We were all motivated to come to your site, read through it, and some even post... depending on our motivation.I think that one of the greatest challenges we face is fear. Fear of Govt reprisal, Fear of Society, Fear of speaking out, actually being heard and then momentarily being in the spotlight (or crosshairs) Because this is a controversial issue. The drug war has given us blatant censorship as evidenced by this article. Tomorrow's call to action day is to support a bill named "Truth in Trials" Look how corrupted things have become that new legislation has been introduced just to allow the "whole truth" to be introduced as part of a vigorous defense in a trial AS IS OUR RIGHT.You asked how do we motivate someone to make a difference? I thought I was answering the question, then I ended up listing the factors that I believe are motivational... SOOO in a very long winded manner I guess I can only offer that motivation is very personal and you can only hope to reach those around you, touch them in a way that will cause them to think, search, learn, and be active in those issues that are truly important to them all the while demonstrating the traits I mentioned earlier. So how many hits does CNews get daily?All the BestAgogp.s. I don't think we ever corresponded before, but I always read your screen name FOM as "friend of mine" [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 13:40:41 PT One More Thing The census of one child being born every 12 seconds takes into account the deaths and migrants too.293,404,490COMPONENT SETTINGS One birth every.................................. 8 seconds One death every.................................. 12 seconds One international migrant (net) every............ 25 seconds Net gain of one person every..................... 12 seconds [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 13:36:41 PT Agog We have made a community here and it's wonderful. How do you motivate people to do something that might make a difference. Many people are overwhelmed by life and we see that by the amount of legal mind altering drugs people take. The census said we have one child born every 12 seconds. How will we be able to handle this many people in the U.S. and that is just the U.S.?http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/popclock [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by Agog on June 03, 2004 at 13:14:25 PT: FOM Libertarianism and the Family Unit Hi FOM and the rest of the CNews Family:From my perspective Libertarianism actually helps the family unit. BGreen and others provided examples of direct assistance and how that experience enriches both parties... there are many lessons to be learned there. One of the other factors that forced governmental intervention creates whether intended or not is dehumanization. Government can't and shouldn't be used as substitute for "a family unit"..whether the definition of family unit is traditional, mom/pop/etc. or your community of friends, the CNews community etc. Think of all you have accomplished here without filling forms in triplicate, taking a number, demanding bodily fluid extraction etc. Large govt. bureaucracies really can't handle the demand as well as smaller more communally focused organizations nor do they ever create the positive feedback loop necessary to become self sustaining. They become self sustaining through coercive force. Look at the "hammer" used in this article.All the BestAgog [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by potpal on June 03, 2004 at 12:53:21 PT fyi... Found this interesting and wondered how some may interpret it...?http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/parenting/06/03/american.children.ap/index.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 12:24:29 PT BGreen Most moms will try to get off welfare if they have a chance to better themselves but some just won't. I see it with some of the young people in our area. They won't work because it doesn't pay enough. When the draft comes back they won't have a choice and they will learn how hard working can be. [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by BGreen on June 03, 2004 at 12:20:33 PT There's No "ONE" Answer My point was about how many people abuse the system.$12 an hour, lunch and free child care weren't enough incentive for 95% of the so-called "needy" to work for even an hour.The needy single mother is out there working at McDonalds or WalMart instead of sitting on her ass and begging for help. If we can cut out the welfare to *support* those who choose to do nothing then you're going to free up enough to *help* the truly needy.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 12:00:10 PT cloud7 It's ok. I understand different views. I have been thinking of what would have happened to us without that first help and we wouldn't own a home in the country with 25 acres of land now without it. I don't know what I am politically but I am for humanity. I don't really understand black and white issues very well. One of the families that were our neighbors lost one son when he was hit by a train when he was 7 years old but their other son became a Doctor and they still live in the same house after all these years. [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 11:52:14 PT BGreen I understand what you mean but how can a single mother work if she needs to pay for a babysitter? I wish single parenting wasn't an issue. Every child should have a mom and dad but reality says it won't ever be that way again I'm afraid. The family unit isn't really very strong anymore. The family was the foundation of America at one time. [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by cloud7 on June 03, 2004 at 11:48:26 PT You're welcome FoM I just wanted to make sure you didnt take what I wrote as any slight on the fact that your family received gov't aid. I know some legitimate cases are helped by these programs. [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by BGreen on June 03, 2004 at 11:46:26 PT My Thoughts On Welfare Some people need help while others play and abuse the system.I've always wondered why welfare recipients don't have to do *anything* in return for their checks. Why aren't they put to work cleaning graffiti, picking up trash, etc., all of the things that need to be done in every city and county in this country?To those who say that won't work, let me give a personal account.I was really involved in my church a few years ago so I was there nearly every day. Our church was right by a major highway so it was pretty commonplace for people to stop in asking for help (money.)The head of maintenance would offer to trade a fair day's wage for a fair day's labor. It's amazing how many "starving" people won't work for a guaranteed $12 an hour!There were a couple of people that accepted the work and those were the people that our church helped get back on their feet.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 10:48:44 PT An Article For Those Who Are Libertarians The Libertarian Party Stays the Course: http://www.reason.com/links/links060304.shtml [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 10:40:49 PT cloud7 I understand now. Thanks. [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by cloud7 on June 03, 2004 at 10:31:29 PT ... "Will the LP subsidize poor people with housing to give them a start?"To be blunt, no, they would not. The core of the LP platform is that the federal government is strictly limited to its responsibilities defined in the constitution. The state governments would have the ability to implement something like this, but from the LP perspective, any service that can be provided by the private sector, should be. We didnt have the giant social welfare bureaucracy in place a hundred years ago and people did fine. Our nation is one of the most generous there is and if someone is truly in need I believe they will be helped. We dont need to have "charity" forced from us by the barrel of a government gun. If the government didnt have the enormous set of regulations about who could be hired at what wages, who can open a business, what kind of business could be operated in what zoning area, etc. it would be much easier for people to begin to make a living. If the government would get its tentacles out of every aspect of our lives, I have no doubt that family, church, and charities would be more than sufficient to take care of the people who need it. And they could do it better and more efficiently than any government run bureaucracy. [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 10:09:05 PT One More Question When my husband and I started are life together he was just back from Vietnam and jobs were almost non existent. He was in a Transportation Unit in Viet Nam but when he applied for jobs back here they said he didn't have any experience. He dodged land mines over there but that didn't count. We moved to Ohio and got a brand new modular home with the help of a government organization. He was able to get a low paying job then and we could afford $68 a month in a mortgage payment. It kept the mortgage rate low and gave people a chance. We wouldn't have what we have today without that first step that helped us. Will the LP subsidize poor people with housing to give them a start? We only needed help for our first home. We've been on our own since then and we are making it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 09:58:54 PT I Like To Connect The Dots How would the LP connect the dots in the social service area? [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by afterburner on June 03, 2004 at 08:40:32 PT The Ten Percent Solution Why is it that God needs only 10%, but the government wants 30%, 50%, 95%? "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely." -- Author: Lord Acton, Letter to Bishop Mandell Creighton, 3 April 1887. http://www.readingmatters.co.uk/idea.php?id=5 [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by FoM on June 03, 2004 at 08:33:44 PT JoeCitizen I understand your point. It really sounds good but here is a question. Neil Young has two children that are adults now and they have Cerebral Palsy. The one son is severely handicapped. Neil and Pegi Young are very wealthy and care for their children but they are the exception to the rule. Let's say a child like Ben (picture below) doesn't have any parents because they give him up at birth because they can't afford or cope with the responsibility. How would the LP handle this issue?http://rustedsister.smugmug.com/gallery/82822/6/2879919 [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by JoeCitizen on June 03, 2004 at 07:56:11 PT Just a couple of points on Libertarian-ism Not to start an off-topic debate thread, just responding to other posts.FoM said:"We have people who aren't blessed with a high IQ or are mentally ill and we need to help those who are disadvantaged. If we don't feed the hungry and clothe the naked and shelter the homesless how can some of us live with ourselves?"I firmly agree. WE have to take care of the poor, the sick, those who are truly disadvantaged. I have just never considered that WE to mean the federal government, one of the cruelest, most corrupt, and ineffecient organizations in our land. WE doesn't mean the feds, it means you and me. I do give to groups who I think do a good job of helping needy people - Goodwill, the Salvation army, and a few others. If the government didn't take such a chunk from me, and if I didn't have to give so much to groups FIGHTING the government - NORML, MPP, DRC, many others, I'd give a lot more to help my fellow citizens in need.I'm sure we've all heard the phrase "good enough for government work." That should never apply to someone's lives or their well-being. People are too important for "government work." I think that's a part of the LP philosophy that most folks miss.E.J. said:Not everyone has family [or] should be forced to rely on a church.Good point, E.J. So how do you feel about Bush giving YOUR tax dollars to churches to help people? I'm guessing you're not thrilled with it. Wouldn't you rather have the option to give that chunk of money to a secular charity you agreed with? Or even give it directly to some poor person if you thought it would help them?The LP philosophy is all about choice. I'd like to choose where my money gets spent, and give it people I agree with, rather than it going to whoever has the most political clout or the most lobbyists or "good buddies" in congress. I'm sure that some people would choose selfishly and not give anything to help anyone. But I'm not like that, you're not like that, and I think most Americans are not like that. If I had more money to give, I'd be happy to give it to secular charities that don't preach at folk who just want a hot meal, a place to sleep, and maybe some assistance in finding a job or developing the skills they need to get one. That sounds good to me, too, E.J. You and I can give our money to that kind of charity. Others will give to churches, and that'll help folks, too. The point is, we should all be able to choose for ourselves what to do with our money. The same way we should be able to choose what do to with our bodies. It's all about choice.JC [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by dididadadidit on June 03, 2004 at 07:12:19 PT Thank Heavens for the Courts Thank heavens for the courts continuing to act as a break on the rush to state fascism. We'd (weed?) be totally screwed if left to the administration and the congress. Whatta bunch of dolts!I'm joining a teachin at my representatives office tomorrow to suggest she (Heather Wilson) consider changing her vote this year on Rorbacher-Hinchley, the bill to force the DEA to leave medical folks alone in states that have carved out their exemptions. Don't expect it to do any good as the Repugs were a solid 13 to 1 against any compassion in their conservativism (fascism) and that's not bloody likely to change unless they are handed their heads this fall and lose control of the congress as well as the presidency. The Dems were starting to read the polls and were over 2 to 1 (135 to 65) in favor last summer.Here's hoping for some serious incumbant loses, especially Repugs!Question. [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by kaptinemo on June 03, 2004 at 04:20:20 PT: M-O-G!!!! Good to see you again! I hope you're safe and sound. [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by breeze on June 03, 2004 at 00:51:20 PT well its about time, thank God Graham Boyd, director of the ACLU Drug Policy Litigation Project, said, "The court ruled that Americans have a right to hear the message that marijuana prohibition has been a cruel and expensive failure."when is cannabisnews going to get a billboard on atlanta's MARTA (their bus/monorail system}?Would love to see that driving past me- especially if it said it just like this-Americans have a right to hear the message that marijuana prohibition has been a cruel and expensive failure... [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by billos on June 03, 2004 at 00:24:25 PT: Hey ISTOOK !!!!!......... put this in your pipe and smoke it, Nazi. [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by afterburner on June 02, 2004 at 22:53:04 PT Plantations Culture Has Evolved? (R/ D)evolved?... from slavery to wage-slavery to contracting to prison-slavery, and the gun money flows to the trouble spots and the butter money trickles to the families in need. We need the wild crops of nature whereever they may organically grow to nourish the people, to feed them to heal them.ego transcendence is given by the Creator to heal the trauma of ego destruction. Genesis 1:29 "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&passage=genesis+1&version=KJV [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by E_Johnson on June 02, 2004 at 22:00:25 PT Not everyone has family Or should be forced to rely on a church. [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by FoM on June 02, 2004 at 21:30:33 PT military officer guy I basically know what the Libertarians believe. I think most of what they say is good but there is one area that I have trouble. I don't know the percentage of poor people in the U.S. but I do know the numbers are very high. Depending on Family and Churches sounds very good but it won't help all of the people. We have people who aren't blessed with a high IQ or are mentally ill and we need to help those who are disadvantaged. If we don't feed the hungry and clothe the naked and shelter the homesless how can some of us live with ourselves? [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by military officer guy on June 02, 2004 at 21:01:50 PT Libertarian positions on the issues FoM i thought this might help... the Libertarians party is for peace.. http://www.lp.org/issues/ this will clearly explain the Libertarian position on each issue...let me know if it gets you pumped up on politics..? [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by Robbie on June 02, 2004 at 20:36:35 PT good a little good news once in a while never hurts [ Post Comment ] Post Comment