Couple's Trip To New York Like a Bad Movie

Couple's Trip To New York Like a Bad Movie
Posted by CN Staff on April 27, 2004 at 10:51:19 PT
By Daniel Drolet, The Ottawa Citizen 
Source: Ottawa Citizen 
An Ottawa couple is officially complaining to New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg today because they say they were arrested -- and the husband beaten -- by city police earlier this year while calmly munching on bagels in a park.Paul Dehler, 45, a physiotherapy assistant at Saint Vincent's Hospital, says he was beaten by two undercover police officers who accused him of smoking marijuana. He says he was arrested, strip-searched, held in jail and charged with a series of offences.
Mr. Dehler's wife, Carol Gudz, 41, a Statistics Canada analyst, was also arrested and charged.All charges against the couple have been dropped, but the process has left them shaken -- and out $5,000 U.S. in legal fees and travel expenses, an amount equivalent to one-fifth of Mr. Dehler's annual take-home salary."I don't drink, I don't smoke, we have an organic garden in the back. We're as clean as they come," said Mr. Dehler. "We met nothing but wonderful people until this incident, and then we thought we were in a bad Hollywood movie."The couple flew to New York for New Year's. Jan. 2 was so warm, they stopped for a picnic lunch in tiny Cooper Square Park in Manhattan's East Village before going to the Museum of Modern Art.While they were eating lunch, Mr. Dehler said he noticed a man in jeans and a turtleneck observing them."I thought that was a bit odd."When they got up to leave, he said two men in jeans rushed at them."When they got within 10 or 15 feet, they said, 'Police, police!' and something I didn't understand, and then 'smoking marijuana'."Complete Title: Couple's Trip To New York Like 'a Bad Hollywood Movie' Snipped: Complete Article: Ottawa Citizen (CN ON)Author: Daniel Drolet, The Ottawa Citizen Published: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 Copyright: 2004 The Ottawa CitizenContact: letters thecitizen.canwest.comWebsite: -- Canadian Archives
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Comment #18 posted by ekim on April 28, 2004 at 20:52:41 PT
thanks jose
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Comment #17 posted by billos on April 28, 2004 at 03:11:43 PT:
My new bumper sticker.............................
 born    JULY 4TH. 1776 
 died  SEPTEMBER 11TH.2001
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Comment #16 posted by jose melendez on April 27, 2004 at 21:55:35 PT
that's 'metabolites'
Apologies for the typo. I am clumsy, yet sincere:
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Comment #15 posted by jose melendez on April 27, 2004 at 21:53:16 PT
Re: ekim comment #10, inactive metabloites
see: from google's html version of: and their inactive metabolites com- bine to boost physiological responses (the “entourage effect�) (Mechoulam  Ben-Shabat, 1999). Given the likely contributions of cannabis flavonoids and essential oils to therapeutic effects on mood, inflammation, and pain reviewed in  and Pruitt  one may readily accept Mechoulam’s quotation: “This type of synergism may play a role in the widely held (but not experimentally based) view that in some cases plants are better drugs than the natural products isolated from them� (Mechoulam Ben-Shabat, 1999,  136)also, from: the values of the half-lives of NMDA, BIC and DMCM have not been elucidated, a previous study on the drug distribution suggests an earlier elimination of COC with a short half-life (about 30 min in rats) by hydrolysis to the inactive metabolites [25], in spite of the convulsive seizures at a similar severity to the other drug-treatment groups (Table 1) and the characteristic delayed stress-like responses in the forced swimming test (Fig 1). The delayed responses of brain DA transporters and NMDA receptors against stressors, including COC and NMDA, have been reported in the previous studies, and have been suggested to be correlated with prolonged excitation at the neuronal level, which has been characteristically observed for DA transporters and NMDA receptors after treatment with strong DA- or glutamate-neuron-selective drugs or stressors [23,24]. Furthermore, it is also possible that these responses were induced by mediators other than the drugs themselves. Since neuroendocrinal responses have been reported to be correlated with various stress responses [26-28], hormones such as those in the hypothalamic-pituitary axis [26,27] could be regarded as some of the proposed mediators.'s stuff in here about oxidative stress I don't understand:from:"A. Russo, M. Palumbo, C. Scifo, V. Cardile, M.L. Barcellona, M. Renis, Ethanol-induced oxidative stress in rat astrocytes: role of HSP70, Cell Biology and Toxicology, Volume 17, Issue 3,  2001, Pages 153 - 168"
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Comment #14 posted by jose melendez on April 27, 2004 at 19:51:23 PT
It's illegal! See also:
from: On: Colombia FumigationBy Al Giordano, 
Posted on Fri Mar 5th, 2004 at 12:00:13 PM EST             The expensive U.S. military adventure named "Plan Colombia" and renamed (in a rare moment of candor by those who want to expand Colombia's civil war beyond its borders) the "Andean Regional Initiative," has so many things wrong with it (massive human rights violations, strengthening of paramilitary death squads, massacres, assassinations of hundreds of union and social leaders, and the delivery of the Colombian state and military to control by the narco) that critics have had to play defense, constantly reacting to every new horror, and have thus lost much focus. Now is the time for those members of Congress and activist groups concerned about this atrocity to bring new players onto the field and to begin playing offense: Specifically, against the plan's weakest link and one that, by itself, causes great harm: the widespread aerial spraying of herbicides over vast tracts of farmland, including in the Amazon basin. 
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Comment #13 posted by jose melendez on April 27, 2004 at 19:49:28 PT
got terror?
Chill, dissent, indeed!As I recall, there was quite a flurry as drug 'warriors' scrambled to pass legislation keeping their actions in Colombia and over Peru legal:
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Comment #12 posted by Virgil on April 27, 2004 at 19:28:52 PT
I chose because I could remember the name. Using the search engine for Marinol, it brings you to this page- 30 capsules of 10 mg are $512.30. 30 capsules of 5 mg are $239.98 and 30 capsules of 2.5 mg are $129.98. Using the 10 mg price because it is easy to multiply times a hundred to make a gram we get about $1708 per gram. But lets ad sales tax of 7% like it is here and we get $1827 and with 454 grams per pound that comes to $828,458. A person could justifiably say that the sale of a pound of Marinol equals the contribution of a healthy worker for a lifetime to the GDP. With money like that and a system that is completely gamed, it is no wonder that it is the greased path that is taken by the greased palms of government. All of this for an inferior product than the Miracleplant that is all but free.Maureen Dowd of the NTY had the best piece I ever read from her a few days ago on the Fantasy world we are asked to accept. This is one of the few articles I will copy to a word program. It is time someone came out and said it- is now getting very boring hearing from the drug warriors. They have cartooned their way into a caricature that will not deviate. The clowns will spout the same stuff from now until the end and they know the only thing that can save them is silence. That is what they are trying to legislate now as they know that they can only be seen as criminals by anyone with understanding and knowledge. Who would believe that Congress would pass a pill bill that said the federal government could not negotiate prices? They did it and the only reason anyone knows it is because of the Internet. We will see legislation to chill dissent and bring about silence. It will fail and those that push it will fall.The treason that rules us has bankrupted the country and ruined the illusion of a freedom and peace loving America. Treason has overplayed its hand and soon treason will be the word associated with Busch as the chorus grows. The blowback has begun and there will be no backing down. It is on until it is over. Prohibition will be over in 4 years when Kerry’s jig is up. 
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Comment #11 posted by john wayne on April 27, 2004 at 18:26:43 PT
Cotton Club
Corporate Cops, forcing the rule of King Cotton and Dubious Pharmaceuticals on the land have unfettered KGB-like secrecy and authority are the darlings of the Corporate Representatives on Capitol Hill.This canadian couple must have "looked suspicious" to these undercover ninnies.  Further these Korporate Keystone Kops must have known that they would face no official sanction for totally unwarranted and repressive actions in public.
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Comment #10 posted by ekim on April 27, 2004 at 18:18:14 PT
new reality show dares couple to go to park in NY
Virg Lou Dobbs ran that cotton stuff tonight.
 I still like how you showed how much Marinol costs per gram.$1700.AB i bet Asa H is chomping at the bit to get the RIDE here up and running. I hope Dr Russo will post know science on inactive metabolites.jose Mat Drudge will be on C-Span on Fri on the Wash Journal from 7-10 i dont know what time he will be on. the show is a call in program. the dem number is 1-202-585-3881 and the Gop is 202-585-3880-
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on April 27, 2004 at 17:12:36 PT
I'm lost again. I checked out the link that JR posted. I wish they would do news about responsible cannabis consumers but they only go for negative extreme cases. 
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Comment #8 posted by jose melendez on April 27, 2004 at 17:05:58 PT
Drudge ( ) removed his smokinggun ONDCP ad / character assassination styled link against that young Kentucky couple. I strongly doubt smokinggun will delete the reference, and I think that may be a good thing. Perhaps ONDCP and drug warriors at all levels need some public outrage directed at them for not fighting real crime, as they hint at on:http://leap.ccSee also:
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Comment #7 posted by jose melendez on April 27, 2004 at 16:24:52 PT
thanks, FoM!
"CNews is unique and everyone is a contributor that posts here."Earlier, I posted this on Dan Gillmor's blog book, mentioned on NPR recently. It seems appropriate here, also:from:"What's pathetic is that people like Paey and in the following link get crucified for what would have been unlikely to happen or otherwise be an issue if raw, generic plant based foods, supplements, medications and intoxicants were not (illegally**) prohibited, and humans went back to using herbs proven to be far safer and efficacious than approved foods, supplements, medications and intoxicants.
Children ACTUALLY DIE from booze, but kids are dared to turn in their parents over a joint.Watch, as the "authorities" crucify this young couple for a mistake:* to thesmokinggun and Matt Drudge's for running this , hopefully they will also (!) include the truth about the Jamaican cannabis tea studies, cannabis for stress, nausea, pain and ADD and not just ONDCP*** ads."
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Comment #6 posted by AlvinCool on April 27, 2004 at 14:45:14 PT
Don't buy the bagels, get donuts and be safe
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Comment #5 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on April 27, 2004 at 13:42:28 PT
Meanwhile... news never prints stories about the millions of responsible cannabis users responsibly using cannabis every day - but when some idiots do something they shouldn't, they make the news. Of course.
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Comment #4 posted by afterburner on April 27, 2004 at 12:12:53 PT
A Perfect Example of Too Much Police Power
Do we want the Canadian police, who are primary lobbyists against decriminalization, let alone legalization of cannabis, having the arbitrary power to demand bodily fluids, which do not prove impairment, with the club of a C$600 fine for non-compliance? For those of you not aware of Canadian police procedures, the RIDE Program is essentially a roadblock that sweeps up all cars passing it. The drivers are essentially assumed guilty until proven innocent.Just as Cannabis Prohibition was established through propaganda scare stories, contrary to scientific medical evidence of the time, the same method is being used to demonize "grow-ops" as "marijuana labs" with dangerous chemicals and cannabis-"impaired" drivers as a dangerous menace to highway safety. "Danger. Danger, Will Robinson." At least the robot on Lost in Space was usually right.
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Comment #3 posted by Virgil on April 27, 2004 at 11:14:04 PT
Crimeless victims
This was not a victimless crime by the police. It is just more injustice.This is relevant by big business that rules us and the cotton industry that has a financial interest in keeping hemp down and out. This is the title and the first four paragraphs from The World Trade Organisation has dealt the US a significant blow in a key trade battle by ruling that subsidies to its cotton farmers were unfair. Brazil had complained that US payments kept world cotton prices too low and gave its producers an edge over less developed and less well-funded rivals. It is the first time that a country's domestic farm subsidies have been challenged and may prompt more cases. The US has said it will appeal against the decision unless it is changed. According to Brazil's complaint, the US paid its farmers almost $4bn (£2.2bn) in cotton subsidies between 2001 and 2002 for a crop that was worth $3bn. 
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Comment #2 posted by BigDawg on April 27, 2004 at 11:12:54 PT
The land of the free...
Charged with a SERIES of offenses.For eating a bagel.Isn't it amazing how a wrongful arrest turns into a SERIES of charges.Yup, land of the free....
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Comment #1 posted by RasAric on April 27, 2004 at 11:08:56 PT
America the beautiful
That'll teach those canadians a thing or two about thinking they can come to America, eat bagels, and get away with it without being beaten down by New York's Lamest. I hope this story gets alot of press.
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