cannabisnews.com: Al Gore's Son Arrested for Pot Possession Al Gore's Son Arrested for Pot Possession Posted by CN Staff on December 20, 2003 at 19:41:35 PT By The Associated Press Source: Associated Press Washington — The son of former vice president and 2000 Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore has been charged with marijuana possession. Albert A. Gore III, 21, was arrested Friday night after he was stopped for driving a vehicle without its headlights on. Two passengers were also arrested and charged with misdemeanor marijuana possession. They were identified as Yann V. Kumin, 21, and Marc G. Hordon, 22, both of Cambridge, Mass. A Montgomery County, Md., police officer stopped the car, a dark-colored Cadillac, in Bethesda, a Washington suburb, around 11:30 p.m. Friday. The officer noticed the car's windows and sunroof were open, despite cold temperatures Friday night. There was also a smell of marijuana coming from the vehicle, according to a news release from the police department. A search of the vehicle turned up a partial marijuana cigarette, a cigarette box containing suspected marijuana, and a soft drink can that also smelled of marijuana. All three were released pending trial. In September 2002, the younger Gore was ticketed for driving under the influence. He was pulled over and ticketed by military police just outside Fort Myer in suburban Virginia, but was not taken into custody. In the summer of 2000, Gore was cited by the North Carolina Highway Patrol for driving 97 mph in a 55-mph zone. Under an agreement with prosecutors, a reckless driving charge was dropped in the North Carolina case, but he was fined $125 for speeding and his driving privileges in the state were suspended. Newshawk: westnycSource: Associated Press Published: December 20, 2003 Copyright: 2003 The Associated Press CannabisNews -- Cannabis Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/cannabis.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #81 posted by Breeze on December 22, 2003 at 22:43:21 PT I Stand Corrected Maybe its not that ALL drug dealers want to keep prohibition alive and well, but you have to agree that there are those (in particular the Columbian drug cartel) that have no desire at all for our push of an end to prohibition. Just as there are several within the pharmaceutical corporations that wish this WOD continue, there are specifics that I care not go into (for obvious reasons), but there is a lot more under the skin of prohibition that is hard to see, find or hear about. Its not that covert operations are under way that I know of, BUT I AM CERTAIN there are members of many orginizations that proclaim to be FOR an end to prohibition, but in reality are not. I know where conspiracy theories start, and I know when they stop. A lot of the research that I do stretches in to the depths of imagination that seem impossible. But, when you go back and re-research the subject- the answers that you find are more than shocking- but they really kick you in the teeth , as some would call, a "biting reality".Maybe you know a drug dealer who wish he could own a little coffee shop, or a little quiet bar where this would be a safe area for others. Maybe in your community, everyone is honest and truthful, and no one EVER gets ripped off. But, where I come from, getting ripped off is common- in relating to purchases that I have made in the past. I wish I could say otherwise, but the drug dealers I known weren't in it to provide good will and a service to embetter mankind, they were in it for the money, and the money alone. Some definetly used their goods, but even still, they were doing it for the cash. I cannot blame them, they came from poor surroundings, not one of them come driving up in a new SAAB, Mercedes, BMW- they usually had kids to feed, and drove something that looked that it fall apart at any minute. And, I also can't blame them for ripping me off, I would rather them take my money and run than go and do something stupid like rob a bank, or liqour store. But you see, in convincing the government the need for the end of prohibition, we need to convince the government of the benefits of an end to prohibition. One of these benefits is definitely akin to ending the moonshine runners of days long ago- even though "SHINE" is on the up swing as being the next thing that people are dealing as well. It is a simple fact, some people enjoy doing something illegal just because it is illegal. Don't ask me why, but it is true. This very comment was made to me last night as I tried to spread the word about Kucinich in a chat room. Some reactions were even , "Who the hell is Kucinich?" But my point being mute, as you said, there is taxation- forfeiture is taxation in its extreme- but I have been witness to it. A man lost his house, his cars, his boat, his land- he lost everything, because of dealing. If you have nothing to lose, why not make money on dealing drugs? What is the worst that can happen? Getting locked up? Three hot squares and a free cot? All at the taxpayers expense. So, you have to also realize that by ending prohibition, you will also be paying SIGNIFICANTLY lower costs for primo cannabis. There are so many uses for it- so MANY uses for it, that even the big fuel companies don't want it to be legal (think middle eastern governments) because it can be developed into an alternative fuel, and lubricant. There are so many uses for it that haven't even begun to be explored its pathetic. But saying that there are thugs that would like to see an end to prohibition, come on! Thats like saying pimps want to give up their lifestyle so their Ho's can give their services away for free! [ Post Comment ] Comment #80 posted by FoM on December 22, 2003 at 21:00:02 PT Truth Yes, here's to freedom! Happy Holidays! [ Post Comment ] Comment #79 posted by Truth on December 22, 2003 at 20:54:05 PT me too Happy Holidays and here's to freedom.Truth [ Post Comment ] Comment #78 posted by ekim on December 22, 2003 at 20:48:40 PT thanks FoM I did ck out that site in Germany neat hu. when you think of this internet it is something. it will be cooler when we can watch something in a window and comment in another and still have a hundred more to use. http:// www.prayes.com [ Post Comment ] Comment #77 posted by FoM on December 22, 2003 at 20:28:23 PT ekim I wanted to make sure I wished you a Happy Holiday Season! Keep up the good work! [ Post Comment ] Comment #76 posted by ekim on December 22, 2003 at 20:07:59 PT where are the Stars come on out. Two Major Benefit Concerts for Kucinich Planned Willie Nelson and Friends in Austin, Michelle Shocked in ClevelandOn December 28 in Cleveland, Ohio, Michelle Shocked will perform at the Beachland Ballroom. Tickets to the show are still available through the Beachland Ballroom at 216-383-1124. Tickets to a special pre-show reception with Michelle and other guests are also available. Click here for more info.On January 3 in Austin, Texas, Willie Nelson, Bonnie Raitt, Michael McDonald, Pat Simmons of the Doobie Brothers, Tim Reynolds, Michelle Shocked and Tish Hinojosa will perform. Purchase tickets online at www.startickets.com, or by phone at 512-469-7469. Tickets to a special celebrity dinner and reception are available at 512-296-6929. Click here for more info.If you plan to travel from out of town to attend these shows, please let us know at 866-413-3664 and we'll make sure that you get connected with other Kucitizens in Cleveland or Austin. [ Post Comment ] Comment #75 posted by ekim on December 22, 2003 at 19:40:19 PT this Leap site is good too January 2004 Jan 5 04 Good Ol' Boys Club 12:00 PM Jack Cole Woodsville New Hampshire USA Executive director Jack Cole explains policy at The Barge Inn on Central St. Jan 5 04 Bedford Rotary 07:30 AM Jack A Cole Bedford NH USA Executive Director Jack A. Cole presents the case for ending drug prohibiton to the Bedford Rotary at the Sharaton Wayfare in Bedford, 121 South River Rd, Bedford, NH Jan 6 04 Pelham Lions Club 07:30 PM Jack A Cole Pelham NH USA Executive Director Jack Cole presents "End Prohibition Now!" to the Pelham Lions Club at the Pelham Senior Citizen Center, 8 Nashua Rd, Pelham, NH Jan 6 04 Coral Gables Rotary 12:00 PM Jack A Cole Coral Gables FL USA Judge Eleanor Schockett (retired) discusses ending drug prohibition with the Coral Gables Rotary at the University Inn, South Dixie Highway, Coral Gables, FL. http://www.leap.cc/events/events.phpJan 7 04 College Convention 2004 from Jan 7-10, 2004 02:00 PM Jack Cole Manchester NH USA Executive Director Jack Cole arrdesses college students about how drug prohibition effects their education. Jan 7 04 College Convention 2004 Jan 7-10, 2004 04:00 PM Eleanor Schockett Henniker New Hampshire USA Board Director Judge Eleanor Schockett (retired) and Speakers Bureau Coordinator Mike Smithson will be participants at the CC2K4 Conference promoting LEAP to college students from across the country. Event held at New England College, Henniker, New Hampshire. [ Post Comment ] Comment #74 posted by ekim on December 22, 2003 at 19:28:59 PT Ophra the Professor is right across town see him. . http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/8/thread8400.shtmlLegislation allowing agricultural research on hemp passed the Illinois General Assembly recently and awaits Gov. George Ryan's signature. The measure still needs funding and potentially also clearances from drug control agencies. But Ryan's signature would be the first step toward two years of hemp research at the University of Illinois and Southern Illinois University. Briskin hopes to be the lead researcher on the project. http://leap.org [ Post Comment ] Comment #73 posted by ekim on December 22, 2003 at 19:18:25 PT Thanks to All who gather here its been a nutteryer E _ please go and tell it to Howe you are the one to win the lotto and educate him, i hope you need not worry.--take someone with you . ==Good luck Dank you are not alone nor the last. ----- FoM the neatest thing was when the movie showed the long rope lines stretching out into the ocean with the cliffs all around and thinking gee there is boats tied up on the other end. i had not seen the tide down like that with all those fishing rigs sitting on the bottom. ==about the green house getten 24 ---has anyone been in Heathrow Airport in England. i guess it has the largest hanging chandler with many parabolic mirrors blasting at a central point lighting a huge room below for all the travelers. = Jesse said that that was his last show for the year. I hope Als son gets an invite to tell the rest of us who he is backing for Pres. ==tonight on Tech TV had a Hemp piece on Conspiracy's. Had on Woody and Jack talken about how Hemp was banned while the rest of the World reaps the profits of this plant Cannabis. I do hope the those great Hemp farmers and craftsmen and women, will send Hemp cloths to those on TV that will be examples. Ophra come on, research it , you are missing helping make jobs and food that will help heal the people. -- yes it is a great time it will be on BroadWay and on the Screen. But who will show it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #72 posted by FoM on December 22, 2003 at 08:52:22 PT Flatbush I'm sure you are right too. Some will welcome the laws changing but some just won't. [ Post Comment ] Comment #71 posted by jose melendez on December 22, 2003 at 05:34:41 PT sukoi I'm Neo. I'm also Batman.(grin) drug war IS crime. [ Post Comment ] Comment #70 posted by Flatbush on December 22, 2003 at 02:11:24 PT "Drug dealers DO NOT want MJ legalized." by B Liar, Liar, your cannabis is on fire!There are many Drug Lords and Drug Dealers who want nothing short of Legalization. If fact, there is a popular saying, " No Taxation, without Legalization".Every educated drug dealer I've had the honor to converse with has always supported complete legalization. They seem to be in the opinion that there is plenty of money to be made by everyone.The Drug Lords are being taxed with or without legalization. Every time a shipment of contraband[Cannabis] is "Confistolen", its written off as an expense of prohibition by the Drug Lords. So in effect, they are being "taxed" whether the goverment admitt's it or not.I am willing to pay Taxes, should legalization be realized. Most "Drug Dealers" would like nothing more than legalization. If fact, with the end of prohibition there will be more work for drug dealers (and all the general public as well). Legalization will bring incredible wealth to anyone who farms marijuana, especially hydroponic. Marijuana is the number 1 crop in the world, surpassing the price of gold. It employee's an army of dedicated workers, an "Under Ground Economy" and/or industry, hundreds of thousands of people working[employeed]. Drug Dealers know that Marijuana Legalization is inevitable. It is only a matter of time, (possibly hours). Some Drug Dealers feel that by being in the trade during prohibition, they are in an excellent position to seize when prohibition is finally over.Alot, of these "Drug Dealers" have been to Amsterdam and have seen the Future. Think of how many Coffee shops would open if marijuana were legalized tomorrow, especially in a free country. Starbucks would be finished! Most "Drug Dealers" that I know, would rather pay a tax than go to jail. The thought of non-violent drug dealers spending time behind bars with murders and child rapists is sickening, if not revolting to most Drug Dealers.Drug Dealers not wanting legalization is a myth. In Fact, there have been many Drug Lords that have run for public office to legalize "drugs". Drug will be legalized but they will regulated. They will be taxed, that's for sure, and a portion will go to drug victims for reparations and for drug treatment. [ Post Comment ] Comment #69 posted by FoM on December 21, 2003 at 23:01:00 PT Breeze Nice post. PS: I wanted to say how odd my last comment was. That was the end of the movie called Saving Grace. They called him a drug dealer so I did too. About drug dealers I often think any problems I've had mostly have come from those who don't want the laws changed. I could be wrong but maybe not. [ Post Comment ] Comment #68 posted by Breeze on December 21, 2003 at 22:55:44 PT A few words Dear Friends,There is only a few things I have to say. 1- If you start talking about compensation for any one locked away for using/selling/transporting MJ, you are going to get a knee jerk reaction of Heck no!!! Because this would raise taxes, a pardon would have to suffice, I am sorry. 2- Keep the goals simple- POUND the leaders of all parties who want to get elected into KNOWING that the principle of ending prohibition is the solution to many problems. 3- Expound upon simple ideas in letters and writings to these idiots. Be polite and courteous, this means no bashing,cursing, or otherwise acting like the outraged citizen I know you are. You can be the p-d off american around no one these days, it only admonishes their reasoning for prohibition in the first place. 4- Make it known that you only want ONE item removed from the dea's list of contraband- MJ. Their ideals revolve around the principle that MJ is just as harmful as peyote, shrooms,alice,heroin,ice,EX, etc. Though you may partake of these drugs, you need to focus on the fact that these people do not realize that MJ is an herb, not touched by human hands to be what it is. Everything else has to go through a few steps to be processed into what it is, within a few exceptions. But these exceptions ARE hallucinigens. Keep them on the focus of you attempt to legalize MJ. They think when you talk of ending prohibition, that you also want to legalize crack cocaine. That should never happen because of what crack DOES do to people - look at the medical books on this one, there are NO benefits to smoking crack. 5- Get the message out. Use chat rooms,newsboards,message boards, signs and posters to demonstrate your desire for change. Write more than just emails to the candidates, and those in power. 6- Remember the main point- and stick to it. Drug dealers DO NOT want MJ legalized. If MJ were to be legal, they would lose millions of dollars in black market revenue, so in effect, by keeping MJ illegal, the governement is actually doing the bold gun toting gangster wannabe's a favor. Thank you and goodluck! [ Post Comment ] Comment #67 posted by FoM on December 21, 2003 at 19:24:32 PT Marry Drug Dealer and Live Happily Everafter Then maybe write another book! [ Post Comment ] Comment #66 posted by E_Johnson on December 21, 2003 at 19:18:29 PT Saving Grace grow tips These are tips for growing marijuana that I learend from saving Grace:1. Veg your plants in the shade underneath a tree in the Vicar's garden until they are 6 inches tall and have two fan leaves.2. Initiate flowering in a large greenhouse in broad daylight using a heat lamp and a magnifying glass.3. Try to get at least 1000 clones from your 6 inch mother with two fan leaves.4. Flower them for one week on a 24 hour lighting cycle.5. When your plants are ripe, set the greenhouse on fire and invite a few cops, thugs and old women over for a party, and enjoy! [ Post Comment ] Comment #65 posted by FoM on December 21, 2003 at 18:41:15 PT sukoi I've heard of Matrix Unloaded and me being an Oracle sounds flattering even though I have no idea what it means. Thank you. We just finished watching Saving Grace. It was a good movie. It was funny but just a good movie too. [ Post Comment ] Comment #64 posted by FoM on December 21, 2003 at 18:35:52 PT Dankhank I'm very sorry. I understand how you feel too. It was a rude awakening when I realized that what was important to me would never be. I wonder why sometimes. I'm glad you shared how you feel. I understand more now. Life is hard. There is no easy way to go thru it. If we find moments of joy along the way I believe we are lucky. I try hard to think like the Queen Mum did. She was happy and lived her life fully. She was asked one time how she dealt with life. She said something close to this. She said I don't look back and feel regrets because I can't change those times. I also don't think about the victories because they are over. She said she looks and lives for the future. I loved that. I hope you do too. [ Post Comment ] Comment #63 posted by The GCW on December 21, 2003 at 18:26:13 PT Write to the Boulder Daily Camera Here is the story from a newspaper WITH A CONTACT to send LTE's.US: Al Gore's son arrested after pot found in car Pubdate: December 21, 2003 Source: Daily Camera (CO) Contact: openforum dailycamera.com Website: http://www.thedailycamera.com/ Viewed at: http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/nation_world_news/article/0,1713,BDC_2420_2521605,00.html Al Gore's son arrested after pot found in car By Associated Press December 21, 2003 WASHINGTON — The son of former vice president and 2000 Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore has been charged with marijuana possession. Albert A. Gore III, 21, was arrested Friday night after he was stopped for driving a vehicle without its headlights on. Cont. & Coming soon to MAP. [ Post Comment ] Comment #62 posted by Dankhank on December 21, 2003 at 18:01:54 PT: Over 25 years it took me to go to Haight/Ashbury in 1995 to see where the beginnings of TRUE freedom was begun and lately I read it is a target area for robbers to steal from the sick.FOM, like you I am Maniac/Depressive about where we are in this fight. Sometimes I cheer and sometimes I weep.I'm sorry I neglected to say I'm sorry about your son. I truly am as I know. I can only plead that with three of my four children already dead I sometimes think that I'm dead and that this IS hell I'm occupying.Well, enough about me ...We're taking granddaughters to see the boulevard of lights in town. No grandsons, so if any wonder why I am as I am I say, I'm the last, and I insist not to be forgotten easily.Sorry to lay this on ya'll.I'm gonna take a break from the action for a few days. I hope to be back to "normal," WETF that means, in a few days.I'm sorry to lay this on y'all tonight. Peace to all of you Hemp N Stuff [ Post Comment ] Comment #61 posted by sukoi on December 21, 2003 at 17:44:18 PT OOPS... ...comment #60, not "Nero", but "Neo". [ Post Comment ] Comment #60 posted by sukoi on December 21, 2003 at 17:30:58 PT E.J. FoM and others, I watched “The Matrix Unloaded” last night and it is an uncanny resemblance of us. For those of you who have seen it, I’m sure that you know what I mean. For those of you who haven’t, it is basically about people fighting to be free from “the machine”. I see FoM as the “Oracle”, but I’m not quite sure who “Nero” would be! There are so many good candidates out there, I just can’t decide. It's actually a decent movie and the special effects are pretty awesome. The point that it makes comes through loud and clear to me; unfortunately we have to fight for our rights! [ Post Comment ] Comment #59 posted by Virgil on December 21, 2003 at 15:58:01 PT We are the gladiators and we have the weapons We have the upper hand and when confronted with survival we will slay any any beast that would feed on us.Actually, I was going to say something about running the informational blockade using the example of the movie "Uncovered" that concerns the truths of 9/11.In the spirit of defending freedom and democracy in America their is permission and encouragement to distribute the movie using the Internet and burning copies.From http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=26907 - LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - In the midst of a film industry crackdown on digital movie piracy, filmmaker Robert Greenwald is urging rampant, unauthorized copying of his documentary criticizing the Bush administration's reasons for invading Iraq.The 56-minute film, "Uncovered: The Whole Truth about the Iraq War," concludes that President Bush and his team distorted intelligence data and misled the American public ahead of the March invasion that toppled the regime of Saddam Hussein.Greenwald has bypassed movie theaters and television, and instead has organized "parlor screenings" in thousands of homes across the United States with the help of Internet-based liberal advocacy group, MoveOn.org. [ Post Comment ] Comment #58 posted by FoM on December 21, 2003 at 15:19:51 PT News Brief from NBC11.com Medical Marijuana Clinic Robbed During Power OutageDecember 21, 2003SAN FRANCISCO -- At least three criminals may have taken advantage of the chaos of the citywide power outage Saturday night to rob a medical marijuana clinic.Police said that they responded to a robbery alarm at the Alternative Herbal Health Services clinic in the 400 block of Haight Street between Webster and Fillmore streets at 8:06 p.m. Saturday. Police said that three men dressed all in black, wearing masks and armed with handguns forced their way into the building at 8 p.m. and pistol-whipped at least one person inside the clinic.The men stole cash and several items before fleeing on foot. The robbers were last seen running on Haight Street toward Fillmore Street. It was unclear if any marijuana was stolen in the robbery. Calls to the clinic on Sunday morning were not answered. The victim who was pistol-whipped refused medical treatment, police said. http://www.nbc11.com/news/2719483/detail.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #57 posted by FoM on December 21, 2003 at 15:18:30 PT EJ, We're On a Mission! I've felt that since the very beginning of my activism! It is a fascinating time to be alive! [ Post Comment ] Comment #56 posted by E_Johnson on December 21, 2003 at 15:03:49 PT We're kind of like the early Christians America is the new Roman Empire and we are a tiny band of resilient rebels on whom the Empire has turned its most ugly face.We're marching into the ring, facing the gladiators and the beasts of prey, with our heads held high. [ Post Comment ] Comment #55 posted by FoM on December 21, 2003 at 14:56:33 PT EJ Yes We Are Winning Sometimes I think that we are victims and sometimes I think we are freedom fighters. I think we are freedom fighters way more often then I do victims. [ Post Comment ] Comment #54 posted by E_Johnson on December 21, 2003 at 14:54:30 PT FoM, we are heroes not victims We will be the ones who stand for what we believe in, even when faced with violent oppression.We've been nominated by historical coincidence to be the heroes of the times, although most do not understand this yet.We're sick, we're disabled, we're scared, and yet we're facing down the most powerful nation in the history of the world.And we're winning. [ Post Comment ] Comment #53 posted by FoM on December 21, 2003 at 14:54:19 PT escapegoat You're so right!!! [ Post Comment ] Comment #52 posted by E_Johnson on December 21, 2003 at 14:48:17 PT I'm being stalked by a Dean supporter Gosh those Dean supporters can be really scary people.I was trying to explain to some Dean supporters why his stance on medical marijuana matters so much to cancer patients and one of them went searching on the Internet to get my home phone number so he could make harassing calls to me at home.Those people can be really vicious and heartless. I'm scared of them now.I wonder who Al Gore III is going to vote for? [ Post Comment ] Comment #51 posted by escapegoat on December 21, 2003 at 14:47:02 PT FOM: We're so lucky to be alive at tiis time >We are the victims of this time in history.On the contrary, this is the MOST EXCITING TIME TO BE ALIVE IN WORLD HISTORY.We have the Internet. That has SO CHANGED the dynamic. Be hopeful, I am! [ Post Comment ] Comment #50 posted by jose melendez on December 21, 2003 at 12:15:55 PT re: comment #46 should read 'Miami's finest' Article III, Section 3 defines drug war as treason. Really. Got that, ONDCP? [ Post Comment ] Comment #49 posted by jose melendez on December 21, 2003 at 11:10:44 PT keep calling them all! " Dean is the best candidate for the money"Dean campaign volunteerWell isn't THAT a telling quote. Poll: Apply Article III against those who wage war on Al Gore III? [ Post Comment ] Comment #48 posted by FoM on December 21, 2003 at 09:56:47 PT Victims of The Times I really don't have a strong opinion on this thread but I'll say this. We are the victims of this time in history. It's very sad and we know wrong but we are like I said just the victims of this time. That's my 2 cents. [ Post Comment ] Comment #47 posted by SystemGoneDown on December 21, 2003 at 09:55:27 PT 13th Step I must clarify, I didn't mean compensate the average pot-heads. I meant compensating medical marijuana users that were prosecuted.....sorry if I misstated...Like I said, it's a complex issue, but they should be a little open to it's idea. [ Post Comment ] Comment #46 posted by jose melendez on December 21, 2003 at 09:43:06 PT 13th step I concur. We don't need no stinking reparations. When the Million Man March started, I toyed with the idea of selling stickers and buttons that said: RELEASE NOT RELIEF Watching Reverend Jackson speak on Pot-TV makes me wish I had done so. I feared what eventually did happen, courtesy of Miami's best, to demonstrators this year. This time, though, we have the internet to spread these truths. Vague, indeed.* Perhaps some day the judge below will find it in the interests of the common good to join another eyewitness in open court against those who unconstitutionally waged war against our citizens who obviously were attempting to peacfully to exercise their rights. * from: http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/democrat/news/local/7540720.htm Posted on Sun, Dec. 21, 2003Judge: Miami police actions a 'disgrace' THE ASSOCIATED PRESS MIAMI - A judge presiding over the cases of several protesters arrested during free-trade talks last month said he saw at least "20 felonies committed by police officers" during the summit and called their actions "a disgrace for the community."Circuit Judge Richard Margolius, 60, said in court he was surprised by what he saw at downtown Miami demonstrations during the Free Trade Area of the Americas summit in November."Pretty disgraceful, what I saw with my own eyes. And I have always supported the police during my entire career," he said, according to a court transcript from the Dec. 11 hearing. "This was a real eye-opener. A disgrace for the community."Margolius said he saw no fewer "than 20 felonies committed by police officers" during the weeklong events, though he didn't provide details. He also declined to single out departments from the more than three dozen agencies providing security.Miami police coordinated the law-enforcement efforts at the summit, which sparked several days of anti-globalization marches and protests and resulted in 231 arrests. Police Chief John Timoney has said repeatedly that officers used restraint during the protests and only responded with force when they were provoked."The chief's not going to comment on something this vague," Angel Calzadilla, executive assistant to Timoney, said of Margolius' remarks.see also:http://news.google.com/news?q=%22Judge+Richard+Margolius%22+transcript+&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=0 CROOKS: caffeine pumping, gun wielding uniformed punks commit crimes [ Post Comment ] Comment #45 posted by Dankhank on December 21, 2003 at 09:36:01 PT: Look at Us :-) Couldn't resist ...check this link out ...http://www.shider.com/dnc/index.htmThe new, just made I suspect, DemoRatic website in Comanche County, OKThis is what we got in SW OK.I'm gonna medicate immediately ..Everyone else that wants, do so also and we will toke to the DemoRats. Register to Vite :-) [ Post Comment ] Comment #44 posted by yippierevolutionary on December 21, 2003 at 09:11:50 PT 13th step Cannabis use is not a choice for Steve Kubby [ Post Comment ] Comment #43 posted by yippierevolutionary on December 21, 2003 at 09:11:12 PT I called Dean And asked the women on the phone if Dean thought Al Gore's son should go to jail, she put me on hold and directed me to his website to look for a "position statement" I didn't want to push it because she is a volunteer working to unseat bush. I told her I would vote for Dean if he came out to decriminalize Cannabis and she said "I hope there are other reasons, Dean is the best candidate for the money" I said "yeah besides Kucinich or Al Sharpton" [ Post Comment ] Comment #42 posted by 13th step on December 21, 2003 at 08:47:58 PT SGD ; reparations... I feel I must offer up my opinion on this subject.You think that after what has happened to Africans in this country , and no reparations for what was forced on them, you think they should give you reparations because you made a choice to violate the systems laws?I do think it is unjust to have been jailing cannabis users/consumers/activists , but , really , reparations? Cannabis use is a choice.You could have chosen to fight the fight without breaking the law.But in a country where the white establishment stole people from their homeland , forced them to do labor for little to no recompense , and we won't pay them back , why should potheads be paid back?I'm not saying it's right , but let's get real here, folks, you aren't gonna get shit from the government if they make pot legal again. And John Q. Public won't be even remotely interested in it , either. [ Post Comment ] Comment #41 posted by FoM on December 21, 2003 at 08:10:33 PT News Brief from Reuters Son of Al Gore Charged with Marijuana Possession December 21, 2003 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The son of former U.S. Vice President Al Gore has been charged with possession of marijuana after being stopped by police while driving a car in a Maryland suburb of Washington. Montgomery County police said Albert Gore III, 21, was arrested Friday night along with two passengers after police officers observed a Cadillac being driven without its headlights on. As officers approached the car they observed the sun roof was open despite freezing temperatures, county police said. The officers searched the car and found what appeared to be a partial marijuana cigarette and a plastic bag containing suspected marijuana, police said. Gore and the two passengers were arrested and charged with one count of marijuana possession, a misdemeanor, police said. A family spokeswoman said the family is in the habit of not commenting publicly on the private lives of their children. Copyright: 2003 Reuters [ Post Comment ] Comment #40 posted by Truth on December 21, 2003 at 08:08:22 PT e mail Here's mine:I will not be voting for Mr. Dean UNLESS he changes his position on God's givin herb, cannabis. [ Post Comment ] Comment #39 posted by John Tyler on December 21, 2003 at 06:23:35 PT Compensation later I think we are all of the same opinion on the compensation issue for the victims of the Drug War. However, I think we should get rid of Prohibition first, then we can consider the compensation issue later. Otherwise, it will confuse the politicians and most of the public and slow down our overall progress and we will still be here years from now discussing this same issue. [ Post Comment ] Comment #38 posted by ron on December 21, 2003 at 06:22:55 PT Harry Anslinger 1892-1975 (re comments 25, 26) He left office in 1962, fired by JFK. This authoritarian bigot was the main man responsible for introducing the cancer of cannabis persecution into the US in 1937. He metastasized it world wide by forcing the UN to adopt the Single Convention on Narcotics in 1961.The authorities would like us to forget him. I have yet to meet anyone who supports the drug war who has heard of him. [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by jose melendez on December 21, 2003 at 05:04:48 PT re: #32 While I'm here 'reatain' -ing, I should make it clear CorvallisEric is correct, I've made the mistake of confusing one rabid prohibitionist for another. regime change starts at home. [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by jose melendez on December 21, 2003 at 05:00:18 PT duh! oops - I, Jose Melendez, do hereby declare that I reatain the right to be stupid.Oh, well, Dean's going to keep quiet about the following charge, hope I'm wrong about that, also.from: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1948/a06.html?397 Howard Dean, who as Vermont governor killed a medical marijuana bill modeled on the successful laws of eight states, continues to put out misleading spin on the issue ( "Candidate Howard Dean Campaigns at Sidetrack," Dec. 10 ). Dean said he wants the FDA and NIH to "review the studies that have already been done" to "make sure [marijuana] works." But just such a review was commissioned by the White House six years ago and published by the Institute of Medicine in 1999. The IOM's report concluded, "Nausea, appetite loss, pain and anxiety ... all can be mitigated by marijuana." Medical marijuana laws don't confer FDA approval or licensing as a prescription drug; they simply keep seriously ill people from being jailed for trying to relieve there suffering. The question that Dean keeps dodging is a simple one: Should patients who use marijuana to relieve the nausea, appetite loss and pain caused by AIDS, cancer and other serious illness face arrest and jail? Though asked repeatedly, Dean has yet to give a straight answer. damn, I'm stoned . . . but drug war is still treason. [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by jose melendez on December 21, 2003 at 04:38:59 PT the VOICE OF AMERICA - Silenced? http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1949/a07.html?397 drug war IS crime. [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by CorvallisEric on December 21, 2003 at 03:30:01 PT Jose - comment 32 According to drug czar Ashcroft, 50 percent of high school seniors tried pot last year.The best thing about John Walters is that, in spite of his arrogance and bellicosity, few people seem to know who he is ;)Wow, I'm getting punchy tonight - too much caffeine? [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by CorvallisEric on December 21, 2003 at 03:15:45 PT Re: Virgil - comment 26 The reason Kucinich is where he is, is because the media does not embrass him. Actually, the media could care less. They are told not to embrass him.Is that "embrace" or "embarrass" (yes, I had to check spellings at http://dictionary.reference.com )- Sorry, old crank Eric ;)PS: About Kucinich, you guys might as well go ga-ga over him since Dean will lose to Bush. Rightly or wrongly, the opening with Libya will be perceived by a majority of the public as the result of American military might and the will to use it, to hell with the consequences. I'm not saying this is correct. I'm just making a prediction. For the sake of preserving a tiny bit of everything else we hold dear, I really wish the Democrats would nominate a war monger. Oops, that means Lieberman. OK, how about someone who can fool the voters because he's got the looks and the background - Wesley Clark. [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by jose melendez on December 21, 2003 at 03:10:58 PT America's got to know if their President's a crook CE is correct, I think. Reparations hindered that vote, which is why I call for amnesty to be offered to treasonous drug warriors who pledge to stop violating Constututional law:http://65.18.211.65/terrorhere's what I wrote the Dean camp:(If you read out loud, you may) Hear something you won't dare mention, as doctor or candidate. Marijuana affects driving minimally, ameliorates emotional and physical pain, even reduces cancerous tumors. It was criminalized by liars in Congress, a fraud that continues to this day. Al Gore's son joins the ranks of Jeb Bush's dughter, John Ashcroft's nephew, Dan Burton's son and George W. Bush's daughters. They've all been caught with drugs, and face(d) far less harsh penalties than we citizens, due to their dna. According to drug czar Ashcroft, 50 percent of high school seniors tried pot last year. It's no accident they are forced into their cars to smoke pot.Article III, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution reads, "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. Prohibition increases youth use, substance abuse and homicide rates along with incarceration industry contracts, salaries and pensions. These rules supposedly enacted to protect society instead create wealth for one class of society, at the expense of an arbitrarily criminalized minority.Without the restraint of trade, monopoly and anti-trust law violation known as drug prohibition, tobacco, alcohol and pharmaceutical industries (whose products annually take over 600,000 North American lives) would be forced to compete with legalized pot.Or, are you a crook? drug laws deemed unconstitutional [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by CorvallisEric on December 21, 2003 at 02:52:42 PT Re: SystemGoneDown - comment 22 What do you guys think about my proposal of compensation to victims of pot prohibition?The establishment of a commission to look into compensation was part of the Alaska legalization initiative of Nov. 2000 which was defeated about 40-60. I think it cost more votes than any factor, and there were other factors. It basically told the voters that the initiative writers were nuts.There is a saying something like "the perfect is the enemy of the good," possibly by Voltaire. Until reformers understand and act accordingly, they will get nowhere. [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by jose melendez on December 21, 2003 at 02:42:05 PT the VOICE of AMERICA nobody listens to techno . . .from: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan.stuart/music/uslyrics/withoutm.html Now let's go, just give me a signal I'll be there with a whole list full of new insults I've been dope, suspenseful with a pencil Ever since Prince turned himself into a symbol But sometimes man it just seems Everybody only wants to discuss me So this must mean I'm disgusting But it's just me I'm just obscene Though I'm not the first king of controversy I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley To do Black Music so selfishly And use it to get myself wealthy Hey, there's a concept that works 20 million other white rappers emerge But no matter how many fish in the sea It will be so empty without meNow this looks like a job for me So everybody just follow me 'Cos we need a little controversy 'Cos it feels so empty without me Now this looks like a job for me So everybody just follow me 'Cos we need a little controversy 'Cos it feels so empty without me Write Congress: Reschedule Pot, or Resign. [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by billos on December 21, 2003 at 02:03:48 PT: System gone Down... Yes, I remember J. bush's daughters getting caught. One of them went to rehab where she got caught there with crack. That quickly became a "family matter" and the rehab center was strictly "ordered" not to discuss the matter with anyone. hmmmmmmmmmm.... I wondered who ordered they be sequestered??? We need to wake the Sheople up!!!! [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by billos on December 21, 2003 at 01:58:19 PT: I'm sure this will...... quickly turn into one of those "family matters" [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by Virgil on December 20, 2003 at 23:58:22 PT Make that 5 years and a month Prohibition will end in about this day in January of 2009 when the country at large realizes every single member of Congress needs replacing for what they have done to this country. Prohibition will be the illuminating factor as art does what the media didn't. [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by Virgil on December 20, 2003 at 23:54:38 PT Anslinger died in 1962 http://www.heartbone.com/no_thugs/hja.htmThe reason Kucinich is where he is, is because the media does not embrass him. Actually, the media could care less. They are told not to embrass him.Prohibition will end in 6 years and a month. 73 months for us and 54 hours for Canada. [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by SystemGoneDown on December 20, 2003 at 23:11:26 PT About Comment20... Virgil, I ask.....will this obsession mean anything? How long before people wake up to the fact that every day that is passing by in our lives, marijuana prohibition is continuing to prosecute people no different than you and I and everyone else. Every single day is just piling the body count. If this obsession is true, Kucinich should be president because he is simply the only one out there that is even attempting to spread the awareness of MP and it's injustice.... This is why it is disturbing to hear that Dean is the front runner democratic candidate... This guy doesn't even favor medical marijuana, much less decriminalization or legalization... Also, I can't find on the internet.... Does anyone know WHEN Harry Anslinger died? [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by Virgil on December 20, 2003 at 22:56:59 PT SGD- Comment20 You are preaching to the choir. There is a logical extension of if alcohol is legal then laughing grass should be legal. We had an alcohol prohibition that produced violence and corruption and was a failure and then people came to their senses and ended prohibition. You would think the same true of laughing grass. History will not only judge prohibition far worse, any one with any sense would view it as worse.Alcohol prohibition did not arrest the small consumer. CP also has a life 7 times longer with penalties and stacks of charges that make bootlegging alcohol look like having recess suspended.People here are intolerant of the injustice. It is that simple. If Canada sees prohibition fall on Tuesday, many people will go from to being opposed to prohibition to being obsessed with ending prohibition.The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decision is just about as big as that would be, in now the states will face the call for MMJ and a no on the state level is not going to be acceptable and a litmus test for the office of governor. People will be able to speak openly to the point of guest on television.For some 2003 became the year that CP became intolerable. There is no doubt about it. 2004 will be the year that intolerance becomes obsession. [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by SystemGoneDown on December 20, 2003 at 22:56:12 PT Compensation... It's a complex idea, but they should look into it... It's about JUSTICE. [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by SystemGoneDown on December 20, 2003 at 22:54:24 PT Wow FoM That's amazing... Ohio is more of a 'cheech n chong' state than Cali. It's only fitting that it's Kucinich's state. That's awesome...What do you guys think about my proposal of compensation to victims of pot prohibition? We're talking about non-violent people who are locked in jail as if they are menaces to society... [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by FoM on December 20, 2003 at 22:41:25 PT SystemGoneDown Check out my state.http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4557 [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by SystemGoneDown on December 20, 2003 at 22:35:54 PT Laws... I jus browsed through all the laws in the states, California is the only one to basically decriminalize marijuana, or less than 1oz of it.........I gotta move back there. ALSO 1 MORE THING:I think when marijuana becomes legal which everyone knows inevitebly will, the gov't should look into the 14 million years in prison that people have been subjected to over the years of the prohibition. Many cases if not most, were VICTIMS and families should be compensated. Sort of like what they did with the post-holacaust jews or sort of like Affirmative Action....... They should seriously look into this as a possibility because we are talking about millions of people who have had reputations, careers and most ultimately, lives, damaged by this oppressive law.................................I think 100 years from now, when marijuana is long-been legalized, we will look at the 70-some odd years of cannabis prohibition as an embarrassing era in America. It will be looked back at much like alcohol prohibition, but MUCH WORSE because of the curruption and greed that prolonged the prohibition and slowed down the legalization. [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by SystemGoneDown on December 20, 2003 at 22:08:13 PT About Dean... Don't worry, he won't read your mail anyway. This guy's daily agenda is filled with ZERO conviction. He is a sell-out and frankly I have NO F'IN CLUE WHY HE'S THE FRONT RUNNER......the America I know would vote for Kucinich. In my opinion, I strongly feel that the overwhelming majority think marijuana should be legal... I don't understand it, I'm pondering an idea that maybe Dean is a hired assassin of the Conservatives... the conservatives will vote for him because he's conservative, and the democrats will vote for him because he's listed as a democrat... That's a simple way of putting it, but I see Dean as the biggest crowd pleaser. He has no conviction, brings nothing to the table, and doesn't satisfy most real Americans(that feel marijuana is not a crime). [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by mayan on December 20, 2003 at 21:50:57 PT Let's Flood Em' I just Emailed the Dean campaign..."Since Dean opposes the legalization or decriminalization of cannabis I'm assuming he believes that Albert Gore III should face criminal charges and even JAIL for his recent arrest for possession. That is why I won't be voting for Dean. Sorry." [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by FoM on December 20, 2003 at 21:47:25 PT SystemGoneDown I know he won't go to jail but that is harsh for possession in Maryland. My state is under 100 grams a $100 fine. Our local radio station read a news story the other day. Someone had their house broken in and the thief stole his marijuana. He called the police to report it and they came and arrested him. The DJ said don't call the cops when your pot is stolen! Don't do that folks! That was a funny story but we don't have swat teams and people get along with the police. The police don't bother people unless they flaunt it in public. [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by Dankhank on December 20, 2003 at 21:46:58 PT Ask 'em face to face I will be driving about 125 miles on the 27th to see Gephardt for the second time, after giving him a "CRL" the first time.Test time, Dick ... did you look at the CRL I gave you?Does Al Gore's son belong in jail?Two good questions coming ... Dick [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by mayan on December 20, 2003 at 21:40:42 PT Let's Force The Issue! Let's contact the Dean Campaign and ask them if Dean thinks Albert Gore III should face criminal charges and even JAIL for possessing cannabis!!!Email the Dean Campaign: http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=resources_contactMail:Dean For AmericaP.O. Box 1228Burlington, Vermont 05402 Phone Contacts:(802) 651-3200 phone(802) 651-3299 fax [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by westnyc on December 20, 2003 at 21:28:38 PT Hmmmmm! I highly doubt we will see Al Gore take a different stance on marijuana prohibition. In fact,judging by the actions of other politicians caught in this type of predictament - they actually become an even more ardent supporter of prohibition by demonstrating to their constituents that they are not soft on drugs; and, they personnaly "realize the horrors of marijuana addiction," and its effect on families. Sometimes I think they care more about votes than they do their own children. These people will happily ruin a life while excusing their own inproprieties. Consider Noelle Bush and the Governor's "This is a personal family matter we hope will be respected." I feel sorry for Noelle, she has a serious problem; but, how different would it be for one of us? I doubt it would be a "personal family matter."Did Clinton take a softer stance on pot after admitting he didn't inhale? I liked Clinton but let's face it - he passed some of the most punitive drug laws we've ever had!It's the same old story "prison for the poor, rehab and applause for the wealthy."One thing for sure! You can bet money that this story will be aired on Fox (ya know the "fair and balanced" one). [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by SystemGoneDown on December 20, 2003 at 21:27:26 PT FoM That's a severe penalty for just a little amount... In California, an ounce or less is only a misdemeanor and the maximum penalty is a 100 dollar fine. [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by FoM on December 20, 2003 at 21:22:04 PT Opps, Jail My Be In His Future Possession or use of any amount of marijuana is punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $1,000.http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4542 [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by FoM on December 20, 2003 at 21:02:08 PT On CNN a Couple Times It was on the scroll bar but not reported on so far but maybe tomorrow or later tonight on CNN Headline News Channel. I believe this is significant because it was only marijuana and a former vice president's son. No pills or alcohol so they won' be able to by pass it by blaming other substances. What will happen because of this? Very interesting. [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by E_Johnson on December 20, 2003 at 20:54:52 PT Remember that NYT story Marijuana kept me out of the Ivy League!Al Gore III is a Harvard student.I wonder if he is going to handle this by crawling like a worm or holding his head up like a human being? [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by Virgil on December 20, 2003 at 20:30:14 PT What no Oxy? How common to be recreating on laughing grass. The Atlanta paper and the Guardian in the UK carried the AP story- http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-3531636,00.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by CorvallisEric on December 20, 2003 at 20:18:51 PT Good summary Drug War Double Standards 20-May-2003 http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/16/thread16344.shtml [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by CorvallisEric on December 20, 2003 at 20:12:11 PT A couple more Ashcroft Nephew Got Probation After Major Pot Bust http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/8/thread8291.shtmlIndiana Congressman Dan Burton, the Republican heading up the House's investigation of campaign-finance improprieties, and a supporter of life sentences for some marijuana crimes, has a son who has gotten himself into a mess of trouble. Danny Burton II was busted for driving about eight pounds of pot from Louisiana to Indiana. Six months later, police raided his apartment and found 30 marijuana plants and a shotgun. The feds did not press charges. Indiana prosecutors got his charges dismissed. In Louisiana, he got off with community service, probation and house arrest. Under federal drug laws, just for the gun alone Burton could have faced a mandatory sentence of five years in prison. Suffice it to say that most offenders don't have this kind of luck with prosecutors. http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/5/thread5199.shtml (near end of article) [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by FoM on December 20, 2003 at 20:03:27 PT A Few Articles on The Bush Twins A Tokin' Appearance By Bush Twins?: http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread16215.shtmlBush's Double Standard: http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread9969.shtmlThe Devil Inside Jenna and George: http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread9941.shtml [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by FoM on December 20, 2003 at 20:00:17 PT SystemGoneDown, A Few Articles About Noelle What Do You Do with a Problem Like Noelle: http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14357.shtmlJudge Shuts Down Investigation of Noelle Bush: http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14318.shtmlJudge Upholds Privacy for Jeb Bush's Daughter: http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14317.shtml [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by Virgil on December 20, 2003 at 19:56:53 PT Links up at Google News The story is about sure to make Leno and Letterman on Monday.CNN- http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/12/20/gore.son/Atlanta Journal Constitution- http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/1203/21gore.htmlUSA Today- http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-12-21-gore-son-arrested_x.htm [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by puff_tuff on December 20, 2003 at 19:53:34 PT Possible Headlines Al Gore's Son Supports Terrorism [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by SystemGoneDown on December 20, 2003 at 19:49:38 PT THANK YOU!!!!!!! Never has an arrest been so politically significant... Do you guys think this will have any relevence, politically, for Gore's buddy Dean?Hey, I remember that Bush's daughter was busted for something. And so was Jeb Bush's daughter. Does anyone know the specific? [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by FoM on December 20, 2003 at 19:46:21 PT Well Now What Mr. Gore? Does he think his son and his friends should have a record and not get any school aid if they would need it? Do they deserve a criminal record? Do they Mr. Gore? [ Post Comment ] Post Comment