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  Who's Smoking Now?

Posted by CN Staff on November 14, 2003 at 22:37:46 PT
By John Leland 
Source: New York Times  

When Forbes magazine splashed a marijuana leaf on its cover last month, John Buffalo Mailer weighed the propriety of flaunting such images in public. Mr. Mailer, who is just starting out in journalism, said he hoped never to run such a cover. "It's a personal thing, but I don't believe we should be throwing that in people's faces," he said. "I don't think that's our role." Mr. Mailer, 25, the son of Norman Mailer and Norris Church Mailer, speaks with the self-assurance of the handsome and intellectually well born.
Yet his words begged a little clarification. Looming over him was a blowup of a magazine cover with Snoop Dogg holding a water pipe in each hand, accepting the honor of 2002's Stoner of the Year. Mr. Mailer, you see, is the new executive editor of High Times. On a recent afternoon, he sat in his tastefully corporate-looking Madison Square office flanked by what might be called Forbes-like covers on one wall and his dry cleaning on another. He wore neat jeans, a black button-down shirt and what appeared to be a permanent layer of dark stubble. Not to put too fine a point on it, he has also been named one of the sexiest men alive by People magazine. In conversation he is a good sport. "The only way I can look at that is, it's making consciousness sexy," he said of the People plug. "It helps. It gets the name out there." Mr. Mailer's first issue of High Times, which reached some Manhattan newsstands last week and will be available nationwide on Nov. 25, begins a total makeover of the magazine. The cover has a photograph of the actor Mark Webber, a question about education reform and zero references to marijuana. Inside are a long essay on outlaw politics by the actor Peter Coyote, who was in the 1960's anarchist group the Diggers, and a first-person account by a drug smuggler."We're trying to get away from just being a pot magazine, which is what it's been for the last 15 years," Mr. Mailer said. "It was never supposed to be just that." (Full disclosure: I wrote about music for High Times in the 1980's.)In sober and idealistic tones, Mr. Mailer, who smokes marijuana "occasionally," he said, described his plan to wean the magazine off its dependence on "the plant" — not to eliminate coverage, but to make it part of a broader diet of lifestyle articles. "With the new High Times we're using it as a metaphor," he said. "So it's not a magazine about pot, it's a magazine about our civil liberties, and our tag line is `Celebrating Freedom.' Our feeling is it's patriotic to be in High Times." Norman Mailer, reached by telephone, said he had given his son little advice in the new job, but volunteered that he was not unfamiliar with the subject matter. "I used to be a heavy marijuana smoker in the 50's," he said. "I loved it, but one paid a heavy price for it. It could leave you good for nothing for two days afterwards." Finally, he gave it up, he said. "Not a stick of pot in 10 years." Predictably, his son's new job does not come without a good ribbing. "Yeah," John Mailer acknowledged. "Then they see the look in my eye and figure I'm not the best person to have that conversation with. I don't want to say it offends me, but it's just pointless to judge what I'm doing off the old magazine." As an institution that will celebrate its 30th anniversary next year, High Times has done what magazines like Smart Set, American Mercury, Lingua Franca, the Evergreen Review, Ramparts, Punk, Spy, Manhattan Inc., Talk, George and numerous others have failed to do: it has kept on keeping on. But over those three decades the magazine's core constituency has moved ever farther from what might be called cultural leadership positions. The alternative culture of 2003 is not that of 1974.Mr. Mailer admitted that he has not been the magazine's most devoted reader over the years. "Honestly, I didn't know it was still in publication until Richard and I started talking," he said, referring to Richard Stratton, the publisher and editor in chief.The magazine has a circulation of 100,000 copies a month and makes a profit, largely from ads for horticultural supplies, Mr. Stratton said. The Trans-High Corporation, which owns the magazine, is privately held by a group that includes many former employees and the family of Tom Forcade, the founder, who committed suicide in 1978. Mr. Mailer replaces an editor roughly twice his age. To reorient the magazine, Mr. Mailer and Mr. Stratton have planned a series of theme issues that they say will go deeper than previous efforts to document, say, the "Girls of Ganja." The February theme will be "celebrating women," and will largely be written by women. March will be a race issue. April is politics, and May, the official relaunch issue, will be about rebirth. With the May issue the editors plan to spin off a quarterly called Grow America to offload the articles, photographs and ads dedicated to growing marijuana. "It's going to be a lot easier to talk to mainstream advertisers and newsstands with the new version of the magazine," Mr. Mailer said, "because when you have a picture of someone with a mound of marijuana, not everyone will carry that." Mr. Stratton, who produced the movies "Slam" and "Whiteboys" and is an executive producer on a Showtime television series called "Street Time," is an original member of the High Times fold. In 1980, after working with Mr. Forcade in the magazine's early years, Mr. Stratton was convicted of smuggling marijuana and spent eight years in federal prison. Norman Mailer, an old friend, testified on his behalf at trial, as did the historian Doris Kearns Goodwin. On the outside, Mr. Stratton started Prison Life, a magazine for inmates, which published articles on in-cell cooking, long-distance parenting, tattoos and sex advice. The magazine lasted about three years, he said.He also wrote for High Times and eventually acted as a consultant to the magazine's board, which includes members of the Forcade family. His idea for the magazine is "an outlaw version of Vanity Fair," with a dash of Wine Spectator and Cigar Aficionado, he said, a magazine for epicurean libertarians who may or may not smoke marijuana.Mr. Mailer said, "Even if you don't smoke pot, 90 percent of the articles should be of interest."Mr. Mailer comes to the job with a limited journalistic résumé — he once wrote an article for the style magazine Black Book — but lots of ambition. He and Mr. Stratton tried to create a television series called "Hello Herman," from a novella about a journalist and a mass murderer that Mr. Mailer wrote while a student at Wesleyan University. Mr. Mailer eventually turned it into a play. Reviewing the production in The New York Times in 2001, Bruce Weber wrote that its author "seems to have inherited the family hubris; that's a good thing, more or less," but concluded, "Alas, the apple has fallen farther from the tree than one might wish." Beneath the talk of bud pictures and outlaw journalism, Mr. Mailer has not given up his theatrical ambitions. Another of his plays, "Crazy Eyes," ran for four days Off Broadway in September, with Mr. Mailer in a leading role; he said he plans to stage a longer run next spring. "I'm still trying to get roles in plays and movies; I'm still writing plays and screenplays," he said. He is currently shopping around a screenplay to his father's novel "The Naked and the Dead." Norman Mailer gave the screenplay his blessing. "John writes better dialogue than I do," he said. Paul Krassner, who founded the satirical magazine The Realist in 1958 and is often called the father of the alternative press, said he was encouraged by the broadening of the magazine. Mr. Krassner has written for High Times since the 1970's (he called his column Brain Damage Report, on advice from Ken Kesey), and said he would continue to do so under Mr. Mailer. His first assignments are for articles on Wiccans, the musician Steve Earle and the humorist Harry Shearer. "It fills a gap," Mr. Krassner said of the new High Times. "There's not a magazine out there that has essentially a countercultural stance, the feeling of being an outlaw because the laws are insane. And that goes beyond marijuana. So before, when it was just about growing, it limited the magazine." Mr. Mailer said he wanted to round out the magazine with voices opposed to marijuana use, including people who think pot has ruined their lives. If Forbes is declaring "The Inside Dope" on the economics of "The New Cash Crop," after all, someone has to lead the backlash.Though if you said it would come from High Times, people might be forgiven for wondering what you were smoking. Source: New York Times (NY)Author: John LelandPublished: November 16, 2003Copyright: 2003 The New York Times Co.Contact: letters nytimes.com Website: http://www.nytimes.com/Related Articles & Web Site:High Times Magazinehttp://www.hightimes.com/Forbes Hails B.C.'s Marijuana Economyhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17735.shtmlInside Dope - Forbes Magazinehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17670.shtml 

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Comment #21 posted by Dark Star on November 22, 2003 at 10:39:47 PT
Whither High Times?
Editing is a tough job. People never provide what they promised on time, and it is difficult to please everyone. In this instance, the new man at the helm will have trouble pleasing anyone, and sounds seriously over-matched.While Dark Star believe fervently in free speech, "the opposition" has all the usual media and the billion dollar budgets of ONDCP, plus PFDFA and all the others behind it, and needs no additional help from HT testimonials on how pot ruined somebody's life.It could well be gone in a year. Some people (including the current editor) may fail to notice. There would be no great loss, as it had already deteriorated into a worthless use of wood pulp, and is far outclassed by Cannabis Culture, or the best entry in the biz, Spain's Canamo.
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on November 22, 2003 at 10:17:30 PT
Related Article from Cannabis Culture Magazine
The Future of High Times By Bianca Sind November 21, 2003 World's best known marijuana magazine announces change to non-pot format.High Times magazine, the voice of America's pot culture since 1974, has announced that they will be changing their format, and not covering so much marijuana news. "We're trying to get away from just being a pot magazine," said new executive editor John Mailer, in a November 16 interview with the New York Times.The newest issue, which hits newsstands November 25, is the first under Mailer's new direction. The cover features no pot references, and there is less pot content inside the magazine than readers would expect. According to the New York Times, the next few issues will be transitional, with the official relaunch issue coming in May 2004.High Times was founded in 1974 by eccentric pot smuggler and counter-culture philanthropist Tom Forcade. Forcade killed himself in 1978, under circumstances some consider suspicious. The magazine has had several different phases, but has always had a heavy focus on marijuana news and pot-culture. Since 1988, the editor in chief had been Steven Hager."With the new High Times we're using [pot] as a metaphor," said Mailer. "So it's not a magazine about pot, it's a magazine about our civil liberties, and our tag line is 'Celebrating Freedom.' Our feeling is it's patriotic to be in High Times."However, it seems as if Mailer might actually lead the magazine in the opposite direction than its current pro-pot stance. He told the New York Times that he will begin running stories opposed to marijuana use, including people who think pot has ruined their lives.Mailer admitted that he didn't even know High Times was still in business until he was offered the job. Mailer has never edited a magazine before, and has had only one published article in his resume. However, he is the son of famed writer Norman Mailer, and he has written and starred in a couple of plays which have been performed off-Broadway. 
Complete Article: http://cannabisculture.com/articles/3186.html
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Comment #19 posted by bongathon on November 16, 2003 at 08:16:42 PT
did they fire steven
does anyone know who Mailer replaced? steven hagar perhaps. steven certainly is an egotistical editor. i went to the cannabis cup in 99 and felt a little slighted. steven had no patience and seemed uptight all the time. he has done a lot for the cause though and may have been instrumental in keeping the magazine going. i just hope the new direction keeps the old spirit. high times forever.
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Comment #18 posted by ekim on November 15, 2003 at 21:54:21 PT
Hey Rev how about submitting a artical yourself
ck out this new version i hope Ethan does too along with haveing peices on Leap speakers and this Professor from Tor. Canada. man lets see what will happen one thing for sure if no one submits any thing we can not cry as how its read.
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Comment #17 posted by Rev Jonathan Adler on November 15, 2003 at 21:32:33 PT:
High Times are Over!
Well, It looks like the Mailers are doing a makeover on High Times so it will no longer be about POT! I dare say sales will drop like a lead weight as Heads magazine is being noticed and internet sites are easier to see than a magazine anyway. I always liked High Times because I looked at it as I would a forum for our advocacy and activism. No more? 
Oh Well, one door closes, another opens. See www.sacramedicine.com as it grows and matures. We have found the middle ground. Peace. 
East Hawaii Branch / Religion of Jesus Church.
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Comment #16 posted by 13th step on November 15, 2003 at 16:30:22 PT
I don't know much...
But I do know if Kucinich gets the nomination, he will have my vote. The speech from 8-09-03 got me. I actually felt , well, almost excited during this speech. He almost makes me feel less cynical, if that's possible anymore.If any of you can, go watch his speech from 8-09-03
Full page:http://www.sacredcow.com/allnew/index_content.php?n=multimedia
Lots of bandwidth:http://www.sacredcow.com/media/links/political/dennis_kucinich_bg.ram
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Download the file:http://www.sacredcow.com/media/source/political/dennis_kucinich_bg.rm
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Comment #15 posted by ekim on November 15, 2003 at 13:34:29 PT
six display boards of current hemp products
Comment #34 posted by Jose Melendez on November 12, 2003 at 19:24:43 PT 
kucinich: on npr's talk of the nation 
http://dvdeland.com/mp3/kucinichTotn111203.mp3
 
In this NPR interview Dennis talks of med.use of Cannabis and Biofuels and the greening of the planet. We here in MI are wating for these six boards you too can get them sent to you. New Hemp Showcase http://www.thehia.org
Six Display Boards of Current Products on the Market! Available for an Event, Library, College or Legislative Hearing. Host pays shipping.
Click here to download PDF info sheet
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Comment #14 posted by Nuevo Mexican on November 15, 2003 at 12:04:18 PT
Dennis on the Drug War:
Dennis on the Drug War:
http://kucinich.us/issues/issue_drugwar.htm'Most Americans believe that medical marijuana should be available to help relieve the suffering of seriously ill patients, and eight states have passed laws to allow it. But the Bush administration has harassed medical marijuana patients in an effort to assert federal authority. This is another aspect of the drug war that should be ended.'Also:
American Expatriates to Lead the Protests Against Bush 
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1115-01.htmAs you know, I was a big supporter of Gov. Johnson, a Republican, so I am not party oriented, as the Democrats are Tweedledees to the Republican Tweedledums. I vote on the ISSUES! So no need to worry FOM, I think CannabisNews should remain independent, but very active on the Issues that concern us here, primarially, ending Cannabis prohibition and persecution. That said, my endorsement, ekim, Kaptinemo, and many others here, of Kucinich, is about Cannabis, period. Not the Dem, Rep, Lib, or Green agenda. I think you understand this. Most of Dennis' endorsers are big supporters of our primary goal of ending prohibition. I hope i've made my intentions clear.I'm sure you seen, or read up on his positions? They are all clear cut, non-waffling, non-politician-ish, just straight-forward, clearly stated, principaled stands that expose most candidates as cardboard cut-outs, shaped by opinion polls and lobbyists. Thanks for being objective, that is your Ace in the deck FOM, and we all value your perspective.My intention is to help change the world, end prohibition, and bring hope back into the lives of people all over the world, as you will see the Brits expressing this same point of view this week when 'that man' arrives to be greeted by massive protests.American Expatriates to Lead the Protests Against Bush 
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1115-01.htmSuggesting: the fall of bush has arrived, thanks to our former 'colonizers' making world opinion known, (regardless of how much the media plans to ignore and minimize the effect of potentially a half million anti-bush, pro-American world citizens marching against the Neo-Con version of our future). Thanks for your input FOM, you are always there for us (Libran Dennis has 4 planets in Scorpio you know, it's about integrity).Get ready for the Blair/Bush lovefest, Nov. 20th, you can follow events at Indymedia.org and indymedia.org.ukhttp://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/11/280531.htmlFrom Indymedia.org.uk:
Moblogging Bush - SMS Text Tracking System for State Visit
Chasing Bush - the very first project of the passive resistance network... In reaction to protests about censorship via crowd control the UK government has taken the public position that protestors will not be forcibly kept at bay. However... the itinerary is deliberately vague. Planned movements that we do know about are sure to be changed at the last minute to keep us away from the action. There is talk of shutting down whole streets (no doubt for 'security reasons') to shuttle Bush from place to place without confrontation. These shadow-play and shut-down techniques are the last publicly-acceptable weapons left in their arsenal. And we're going to stuff that up. We're going to stalk Bush with a purpose-built moblog. Question: when are we Americans going to 'get smart' to how to undermine the medias manipulation of the news. (As our British counterparts are preparing to do with the moblog).Answer: When we march on local and national news broadcasters and demand accountability, balance and real information from them, not spin, lapdogging, and subject-changing. Or we only do the Internet, and never turn on our TV's to anything but Free Speech TV or LINK on Dish Network. Ignore them, and they will shrivel up and blow away, as long as we ALL ignore them, All the time! 
Peace in our time!
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Comment #13 posted by E_Johnson on November 15, 2003 at 11:05:58 PT

Jessica Lynch is on morphine
I watched her interview, she says she's suffering quite a bit of nerve pain, she is on a lot of pills and occasionally has to inject morphine.I would never want to be opportunistic about medical marijuana but to me, she seems like someone who might benefit in the long run from trying to switch over to cannabinoid pain relief now -- before she gets too used to relying on those opiates.I don't want to say more because I would start ranting about the war.Those veterans deserve the safest and best pain relief that can be found.
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on November 15, 2003 at 10:29:12 PT

Nuevo Mexican 
I want to say something. Because of CNews I step back and try on purpose not to let what is happening in politics or the world to draw me in. I have this trip trigger. I want to keep my focus on news about cannabis here in the states mostly. I avoid posting articles where it is predominately a party type article rather then one that it's center is cannabis. I hope this makes sense because I don't ever want CNews to be labeled one party or the other. That doesn't mean that I don't see and have feelings about politics and their impact on us and all of society. I admire you and ekim in particular who have stood tall in your support of Dennis Kucininch. I depend on the both of you to keep us informed. Don't look to the left or the right but keep your focus and anything is possible. PS: Have a nice weekend!
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Comment #11 posted by Nuevo Mexican on November 15, 2003 at 10:17:19 PT

FOM: On books: Dennis Kucinich' #17 first week! 
on the New York Times best-seller list! At the bottom of this comment is a list of some of his most prominent supporters. If this list doesn't open peoples' eyes to who the only 'real Democrat' (Carol is great too!)PREDICTION: after posting this at C-News, 'Prayer for America' will hit #1!!! Why??? Because everyone reads C-News, as they do Buzzflash.com, Indymedia.org and CommonDreams.org! 'Dude, where's my country?' by Michael Moore currently holds this position, making way for Dennis the 'kush' book to take over. (The universe has conspired to make this man president, as 'the all that is' allowed for a stolen election to wake up the American people from their slumber').Because the most informed, progressive, compassionate people read CannabisNews.com, and with so many enlightened readers (and posters!) here, most will spread the word: Dennis Kucinich has never smoked Pot, but is the ONLY presidential candidate that is calling for ending the 'WAR ON DRUGS'!!! (kucinich.us) for more!He supports the right of patients to use Cannabis as well.The candidates whom have admitted to using Cannabis, are still supporters of the continuation of the 'Drug War'. Baby boomer hypocrits, one and all, styled after billy clinton, bushes appointed one, (the Mena connection), allowed to win the election so the repubs could character assasinate the anti-war, counter-culture, pot-smoking version of America, thus making way for a War-mongering, pot-hating, wal-mart worshiping version. billy was all too willing to take the bait, and sell our generations vision down the river in exchange for his 'World leader' moniker that has been bestowed on this major fence sitter. End of rant.Ending Cannabis Prohibition is a priority for only one candidate: Dennis Kucinich!!!The title: Prayer for AmericaFrom Democrats.com:Slowly but surely, Dennis Kucinich is having an impact on America. Kucinich has been consistently right on Iraq - that's why Bush summoned Bremer to emergency meetings to figure out how to get out of Iraq asap. Now Kucinich is winning another battle - the battle of the bookshelf. His "Prayer for America" just hit #17 on the NY Times bestseller list. Let's kick it up to #1 - buy copies for Christmas presents!
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1560255102/democratscomEndorsers (partial list) 
Dr. Patch Adams
Aris Anagnos
Edward Asner
Ed Begley, Jr.
Linda Blair
Grace Lee Boggs 
Blase and Theresa Bonpane
David Clennon
Ben Cohen
Jeff Cohen
Blanche Wiesen Cook 
Peter Coyote
James Cromwell
Kevin Danaher 
Ani DiFranco
Ronnie Dugger
Barbara Ehrenreich 
Riane Eisler 
Hector Elizondo
Kathy Engel
Matthew Fox
Marilyn French
Arun Gandhi Lila Garrett 
Ed Garvey 
Ronnie Gilbert
Angela Gilliam
Danny Glover
Elliott Gould
Granny D
Jerry Greenfield 
John Hagelin 
Tom Hayden
Randy Hayes
Sen. John Hottinger
Nicholas Johnson 
Van Jones
Mimi Kennedy
Ynestra King
David Korten
Winona LaDuke
Gail Lerner
Rabbi Michael Lerner
Willie Nelson
Grace Paley
Rosalind Petchesky
 Ram Dass 
Marcus Raskin
Tim Reynolds
John Robbins
Eric Roberts
Tanya Roberts
Loretta Ross
Digna Sanchez
Roy Scheider
Jonathan Schell
Paul Schrade
Stanley Sheinbaum
Pete Seeger
Jean Shinoda Bolen
Paul Alan Smith
Richard Stallman
Meredith Tax
Studs Terkel
Harvey Wasserman
Haskell Wexler
Marianne Williamson
Rep. Lynn Woolsey 
Dr. Quentin Young
Howard Zinn 
These are individual endorsements, not on behalf of any groups. For more complete lists of endorsers, see http://kucinich.us/endorsements/
 

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Comment #10 posted by FoM on November 15, 2003 at 09:28:51 PT

mamawillie 
I'm really out of touch with all of this I suppose! I haven't see a Playboy Magazine in so many years I can't remember how many! LOL! 
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Comment #9 posted by mamawillie on November 15, 2003 at 07:47:18 PT

sad but true
The reality is Playboy had better articles recently about legalization of pot and the war on drugs than HT did.Actually, HT seems to be doing what I was hoping Playboy would do... get rid of the smut and focus on good articles...the articles in Playboy are really good lol.
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on November 15, 2003 at 07:41:14 PT

I Hope They Make It Better
We gave up on High Times many years ago when it got into kinky things. It just wasn't about our culture but marketing I guess. Hopefully it will get some substance back. Sex sells. I understand that but people who don't want to read about sex just give up on magazines when they get way out there in left field. Having to buy High Times at an adult book store makes us feel bad so we don't buy it.
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Comment #7 posted by Arthropod on November 15, 2003 at 07:26:40 PT:

High Times indeed
I may actually start reading HT again. Sounds like someone up there finally got on the ball. I don't mind reading about what was grown at the latest Cannabis Cup, but the level the magazine was going to lately was ridiculous. Pretty bad coming from the demographic they were supposed to have been targeting.
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Comment #6 posted by mamawillie on November 15, 2003 at 06:41:16 PT

So glad HT is getting fixed
Right now it reads like a drunken frat boy magazine.. half-nekkid, strange looking women.. ads for a 1-900 sex service, etc.The magazine was going in the wrong direction. If we truly want to legitimize pot, then we need to treat the subject as legit.
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Comment #5 posted by Sam Adams on November 15, 2003 at 00:44:22 PT

encouraging article
Wow, "Whiteboys" is a phenomenal movie, I can't belive the producer spent 8 years in prison, what a terrible waste. It really brings back memories of Sakarov-type people, creative dissidents tossed in jail just for the heck of it. Seriously, Whiteboys is one of my favorite movies of all time. Both for being profound and also profoundly funny at times. The parodies of rapper videos made me laugh so hard I almost choked on my pretzel.Now that I think about it, both Slam and Whiteboys are about the Drug War. Definitely catch these movies - both like "Platoon" for the WOD.
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on November 14, 2003 at 23:28:48 PT

Thanks EJ
Very interesting news. I read in an email list that Montel has a book coming out in the early part of the New Year. He has a chapter on marijuana I read too!
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Comment #3 posted by E_Johnson on November 14, 2003 at 23:22:59 PT

Rush and Montel in the latest Enquirer
Big story: Rush goes into political rant in rehab, says Clinton needs to be in there with him. Admits his real rehab has just begun. Apparently he had a very rough time detoxing.Small story:MS Victim Montel pipes up for medicinal pot useMontel Williams is using his recent pot bust to champion the use of medicinal marijuana for people who -- like him -- suffer from multiple sclerosis or other diseases that cause chronic pain."The fight for compassionate care and medicinal treatment is one that Mr. Williams is very passionate about and continues to advocate," said a spokesman.In the rest of the story, he says he's not a pothead, he doesn't advocate recreational use, but research shows that medicinal use is supported and marijuana is better than morphine or Percocet. He says he feels strongly that marijuana should be included as a treatment option.
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on November 14, 2003 at 23:20:31 PT

A Little Information On Norman Mailer
I thought some of you might want to read this article about his father.Norman Mailer: Autocrat of the Remainder Table: http://www.americanlegends.com/authors/norman_mailer.html
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on November 14, 2003 at 22:51:19 PT

Not About Marijuana
I agree in that you can substitute the word freedom for marijuana and that is what we are working so hard for. Just our personal freedom.
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