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Pot On Back Burner
Posted by FoM on January 19, 2002 at 07:45:21 PT
By Shane Holladay -- Edmonton Sun
Source: Edmonton Sun
Marijuana exemptees looking to score government stash will have to wait at least a year while Health Canada - in compliance with a UN convention - tries to prove pot is a medically sound alternative. Health Canada officials have said they're working on a private, secure and internationally legal plan to distribute marijuana to medical exemptees.
The holdup is the 1961 UN Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, said Kemal Kurspahic, spokesman for the UN's Office for Drug Control and Crime Prevention. The convention allows countries to use banned drugs only if they're for scientific or medical purposes, he said. "While using marijuana for medical purposes could not be excluded, the scientific research in several countries so far has not produced conclusive evidence of medical usefulness of marijuana," said Kurspahic. Studies would have to be supported by a respected body, he added. "As long as there is no scientific evidence approved, for example, by the World Health Organization, marijuana remains listed among strictly controlled substances as stated in the convention." Health Canada is backing research at Montreal's McGill pain centre, which spokesman Chantal Beauregard said would be complete in a year. "It's the first of its kind in Canada," she said. "It's to determine if marijuana is an effective pain reliever for chronic pain sufferers." The project will likely begin in March, Beauregard said. Health Canada spokesman Paige Raymond Kovach said the study at McGill is part of the government's efforts to establish the value of marijuana in treating chronic pain. "We're working on it. More information is required and that's what we're working on." Ultimately, Canada has jurisdiction over its own domestic affairs, said John Conroy, a Vancouver lawyer who has handled high-profile marijuana constitutional challenges. Canada's Constitution bars it from entering into an international agreement that violates its citizens' constitutional rights, he said. "Our government can't enter into something it doesn't have the power to enter into," said Conroy. Since a number of decisions have established the right of Canadians to use pot for medical uses, they can't be denied the drug by international treaties, he said. Note: UN convention holds up medical marijuana.Source: Edmonton Sun (CN AB)Author: Shane Holladay -- Edmonton SunPublished: January 19, 2002 Copyright: 2002, Canoe Limited Partnership.Contact: letters edm.sunpub.comWebsite: http://www.fyiedmonton.com/htdocs/edmsun.shtmlRelated Articles & Web Site:Medical Marijuana Information Linkshttp://freedomtoexhale.com/medical.htmFirst Batch of Government-Issue Marijuana Readyhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread11620.shtmlSuffering Few Who Legally Possess Marijuana http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread11135.shtml
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Comment #39 posted by SoberStoner on January 21, 2002 at 18:07:39 PT:
Keep the faith, fight the power
FoM, you get much respect from me. I want to thank you for this site, and the information you provide is invaluable. Jose, if you need ANY help at all (scripts, ideas, etc) PLEASE email me. I studied Mass Communications in college and I have already gotten some rough ideas for PSA's that could be put together. I have always wondered why NORML hasnt put ads on TV, and then i realize, even if they did make them, no commercial station will air it. Not because the information is false, but because they dont want to lose their FCC license.Make no mistake, we are all fighting a war, and not the one the media wants you to think about. We are fighting a war aginst our own government and the hypocracy that keeps prohibition alive. Of course, with the recent state of events, just speaking like this could get me called a terrorist and i could be 'asked' to stay at one of Mullah Ashcroft 'interment' camps.
We need activists who are not afraid of Big Brother because thats exactly what we are facing, Orwell's vision may have been 15 years off, but if you look at the state of affairs today, the media has become big brother, telling us what we can say, what we can think, and how we should feel. It's truly amazing how differently I look at the world ever since I have started using my own eyes to look at the world instead of the preprogrammed crap thats on the air.By the way, i HIGHLY recommend everyone picking up the new issue of Maxim. They have the best ANTI WOD article i have read in a mainsteam magazine in a long time. Sorry for the inflammatory post, but this truly is a sad, frustrating, and depressing turn of events. I truly thought that the world was starting to see the light of the truth, but it's evident that as long as the U$A is making money off the WOD, they'll do anything to keep theirselves looking like saints while we are nothing more than common criminals. The only thing that keeps me going is that the D.A.R.E kids are growing up and starting to recognize the lies they were fed for what they are and eventually we will NOT be the minority and we will no longer be able to be ignored. It may take a while, but it WILL happen.
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Comment #38 posted by Jose Melendez on January 20, 2002 at 05:45:52 PT:
cash THIS
In a sense we have come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men would be guaranteed the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note..."
The Dream...
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Comment #37 posted by Jose Melendez on January 20, 2002 at 05:42:36 PT:
The BattlePlan: We need our own Ron Reagan
Too bad AlGore forgot about us... We need someone to stand up and say "Mr. Bush, tear this wall down..."; someone needs to be on television and speak out clearly for an end to the artificial walls of marijuana prohibition.
Somehow the image is in my head of the big Blue Wall (of silence) crashing down behind the speaker. I want to offer my services to everyone here, Steve Tuck, FoM, everyone send me footage or scripts and I will put together as many Public Service Announcements exposing the war on (some) drugs as I can. The BattlePlanI've been thinking, as long as we stay honest on the script, we could try and get them aired; of course most stations would refuse, which would lead to a freedom of speech lawsuit...
Then the commercials (10-30 seconds each) would get shown on the news... and be available on tape or disc online...
Peace,
Air Jose
We have proof drug war is crime - Arrest Prohibition
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on January 19, 2002 at 22:46:00 PT
Thanks Hope
It always happens when you feel you can't go on, and I do feel that way recently, words are said that make me go on and thank you. I don't know who Mr. Spurgeon was but his words ring true. Life's too short to be wasting it doing something that isn't important. I believe there are so many worthy causes in this world but reforming marijuana laws is up there with others. I know this cold I'm fighting has me more sensitive then normal but wrong is being done and I believe that because we are the big honchos in the states that we must get reform done so peace can come to Canada and other countries around the world. America controls so much of what the world can do. That was the very thing we feared would happen years ago with Russia. Very interesting. We are more to fear then Russia.
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Comment #35 posted by Hope on January 19, 2002 at 22:28:51 PT
Sometimes, in this effort, we all have received
a few very staggering wounds. We feel knocked to our knees and feel our courage drained away. We can almost hear some dark spirit whispering to us that it is time to give in. We can't see for a few moments how we can go on. It seems that we are up against an impossibly powerful force, and we are,(the most powerful governments in the world are against us) but you know that as long as you live and the battle is before you, that your heart of hearts will eventually be saying, like Mr. Spurgeon did so many years ago, "to that system I will not yield for an hour."
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on January 19, 2002 at 21:55:58 PT
Hope
Thank You. I needed to read what you posted. I believe I am on a mission. I am not doing what I do for any other reason. As long as I feel the way I do I must continue. It is hard. It is difficult to be careful with my words so as not to offend anyone but I work hard to be calm and patient. I keep saying to myself. Rome wasn't built in a day but enough is enough. We aren't going to see a world without war for years to come and we need to get accomplished what we need to get accomplished soon or we might not get it done at all. I hope this makes sense and thanks again.
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Comment #33 posted by Hope on January 19, 2002 at 21:40:36 PT
Well said, FoM
I agree with Charles Spurgeon when he said, "There is a growing up in society a Pharisaic system which adds to the
commands of God the precepts of men: to that system I will not yield for an hour. The preservation of my liberty may bring upon me the upbraidings of many good men, and the sneers of the self-righteous; but I shall endure both
with serenity so long as I feel clear in my conscience before God."
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Comment #32 posted by lookinside on January 19, 2002 at 20:02:13 PT:
Jose Melendez
thanks for the address...i just emailed them with some questions...if i get an answer, i'll post it here...
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Comment #31 posted by Jose Melendez on January 19, 2002 at 18:11:40 PT:
email HealthCanada
Here is an email address for Health Canadapphatlantic-spspatlantique hc-sc.gc.camore contact info at:
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/english/contact/index.html
Arrest Prohibition - Drug War is TREASON
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Comment #30 posted by DdC on January 19, 2002 at 15:49:19 PT
Feds trump States
Sorry, but like our CA Prop 215, State initiatives or laws don't over ride Federal scheduling or the 110 countries signing the International treaty discussed. We thought it would be over in 96, so did Peter McWilliams right before they took him and Todd to prison. Its all an illusion for the simple reason of greed. Only bogus theories and harm from prohibition itself maintains this dysfunction. Truthful information and places like this to gather info is overcoming the ignorance. But the media is filler inbetween advertizments so don't look for much help from them. Not until we start stigmatizing wod junkie DEAth worshipers as the fascist they are will the media and citizens then turn their tides. People are basically good and trusting of their government over their own descerning of the info, especially when the info is one sided and preached as it is against cannabis. Now that both sides of the issue's info is being released and spread out showing the contradictions and lies, more people are coming around, only the vested ignorance maintain the argument, and only one sided without debate and only for one reason. The corporatist extortion of the legislature and courts, and that must be stopped. The quickest way is legalizing cannabis, removing the Keystone of WoD and utilizing its natural renewable alternative to booze, petro-chemicals, fossil fuels, trees, nukes, meat and cotton chemicals etc.
Peace, Love and Liberty
DdCBush + WoD x Monsanto ÷ People - Media = Cannabis Prohibition Inc.
http://www.cannabisculture.com/cgi/www5.4.4/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=wwwdrugwar&Number=212367&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=
Emperor Wears No Clothes
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on January 19, 2002 at 15:39:39 PT
Can't afford to maintain
This is 2002. Cannabis being illegal in this day and age is getting downright stupid. I can't think of any other word but stupid. It really is about each one of us having the right to decide what we feel is moral for us as an individual. If no one is hurt by our decisions then there shouldn't be a law against it. An example is prostitution. Even though I am not for prostitution I don't think it should be illegal for two consenting adults. In our country if a group of people with political clout finds something offensive they work hard to make it against the law. That is not how a free country should be. That's enslavemnet not freedom.PS: You're welcome DdC!
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Comment #28 posted by qCsTRT on January 19, 2002 at 15:20:25 PT
TV NEWS NUN
I have tried to talk with ABC, NBC, CBS, about Cannabis, Marijuana, Hemp and they don't have the time of day for
you or it. I have tried to get it on there broads for comment, no luck it is illegal, they said end of discussion!!
Nashville and Chattanooga. Tennessee our people in the senate over road the Marijuana Bill not long ago.
So much for that.
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Comment #27 posted by DdC on January 19, 2002 at 15:10:02 PT
Winning or Losing Doesn't Profit Like Maintaining
Ignorance is getting flimsier of an excuse everyday these professional prohibitionist show there pointed little ugly heads. Its so clear what its all about and that makes it unique in the typical fighting of wars. Their goal is not to win, but to perpetuate the profits using racism and reefer madness stigmatizing or anything they can to obtain their goal of profits on the war and keeping cannabis competition off the market. When we decide to forget about the status quo political game they play and simply initiate a citizens law freeing the plant they dispise then we will have what we want. This treaty was for the future softy politico's who might try and legalize according to Anslinger. Its all about feeding red herrings and avoiding the debate and trashing the research with lies. But with our side having honest righteous intentions we will end this madness or die trying.
Peace, Love and Liberty
Thanks FoM
DdCFarben's Bushit Circus
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/politics/media/39/39401.gif
Farben's Bushit Circus Still In Town
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/message.shtml?1x39400
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on January 19, 2002 at 14:43:48 PT
Just a comment
I am very mad about this delay. I haven't been more upset about anything in a long time. What will happen to the sick people? What will happen to the crop from the Flin Flon Mine? It shouldn't just sit there not being used. That is what I call a sin.
http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/images/flinfloncroplg.jpg
I also want to make sure no one thinks when I said about money I meant me or Cannabis News. I meant we need people working hard in Washington to get the law changed. Bill Maher said something the other night and it jumped out at me and made me really think. He said pot smokers don't have lobbyists in Washington. We must do something about the laws soon or I think we won't have any chance for years to come if at all. I appreciate all of you very much. Those that respond and those that quietly read.
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Comment #25 posted by DdC on January 19, 2002 at 14:20:59 PT
What the WHO doesn't want you to know
What the WHO doesn't want you to know about cannabis
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=261.topicHow Flexible are UN Drug Conventions? From 'Regulating Cannabis; Conference Proceedings'There are currently three UN conventions on drug matters being enforced. Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs of 1961 as amended by the amending protocol of 1972, Convention on Psychotropic Substances of 1971 and finally United Nations Convention
http://www.lindesmith.org/library/proceedings/cannabis/krajewski2.htmlhttp://www.incb.org
• ODCCP - Publication of the text of the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, 1961, as amended by the 1972 Protocol Amendi Publication of the text of the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, 1961, as amended by the 1972 Protocol Amending the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, 1961
http://www.undcp.org/resolution_1976-02-27_6.htmlODCCP - The Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, 1961: Ratification and accession
http://www.undcp.or.at/resolution_1962-08-03_3.htmlODCCP - Amendment of the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, 1961
http://odccp.org/resolution_1971-10-01_1.htmlODCCP - Implementation of the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, 1961
http://www.undcp.org/resolution_1966-03-04_3.htmlFARMaceuticals!
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http://www.mikuriya.com
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on January 19, 2002 at 13:01:05 PT
QcStrt
That's ok. I understood what you meant. I don't know why they hate marijuana so much. I don't understand it. I haven't met a person who ONLY uses marijuana that I don't like. They are nice people and don't cause anyone any harm.
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Comment #23 posted by QcStrt on January 19, 2002 at 12:41:44 PT
spell
(response) spell chacker not working
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on January 19, 2002 at 12:27:55 PT
Might as well say how I feel
Since I am furious I'll say what I think. We need money to fight. As long as we don't have any money we can't win this war against marijuana. That's the bottom line. I don't care one bit about treatment initiatives. I want the laws changed on marijuana. I guess that's why it's hard for me to post news about treatment. I don't need treatment. I don't want to go to jail for a plant. Why can't the money people get that?
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Comment #21 posted by QcStrt on January 19, 2002 at 12:25:19 PT
Law Suit
This could be in repossessed to the Law Suit from the company in Canada on
HEMP! cove up.
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on January 19, 2002 at 12:23:20 PT
I'm very mad
I knew Canada was in trouble when they allowed the DEA to set up, up there. I'm very angry. I'm so glad I am not a young person. God help the young people.
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Comment #19 posted by herbdoc215 on January 19, 2002 at 12:13:45 PT:
No article's on Teahouse or Ken I know of, Kubby..
Tells of Kens adventures on his Pot-TV.net newscast yesterday though. Victoria bust has been in a couple of papers. This is all a result of US pressure on " Border Normalization", it seems as if Canada is also no longer going to offer us protection from DEAland killing people like me. Dark, very dark, Steve Tuck
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Comment #18 posted by aocp on January 19, 2002 at 12:12:03 PT
You have got to be kidding me
Ultimately, Canada has jurisdiction over its own domestic affairs, said John Conroy, a Vancouver lawyer who has handled high-profile marijuana constitutional challenges.YA THINK?!? Maybe the whores that are trying to kow-tow to the non-Canadians of the world love to sell their country out, but you'd think most of the country would find this idea distasteful at best. What a crock of merde.
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Comment #17 posted by herbdoc215 on January 19, 2002 at 12:09:46 PT:
Excuse me as I meant Fri.
Same result though, It's been crazy up here lately. For every step forward the pigs are moving the line 100ft back. Steve Tuck
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on January 19, 2002 at 12:06:18 PT
Steve
Can you give me a link to an article? I'm afraid the USA is getting to Canada. They are determined and always get their way as we all know. I'm so sorry.
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Comment #15 posted by herbdoc215 on January 19, 2002 at 11:59:40 PT:
NEW Teahouse in B.C. BUSTED!
The Marijuana Teahouse in Vancouver was busted on Thurs. and since Marc Emery was involved in it I would say that Canada has capitulated to US pressure to shut down on medical cannabis use and activist in BC. Pot and seeds were confiscated but few details so far. Coming on heals of recent setbacks here concerning Ken Hayes at border and Victoria bust it seems as if the war is on here and kid gloves are being pulled off. We are under attack the entire world it seems, never has a culture been so universally persicuted the world over. Is there NO SANCTUARY? Steven Tuck
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Comment #14 posted by QcStrt on January 19, 2002 at 11:09:43 PT
population
since the 1950's what I have seen is when the economy is down and the work place
cannot hold any more people
the Govt.' get in to a war to relieve the population down, and the economy back in line.
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Comment #13 posted by lookinside on January 19, 2002 at 10:45:32 PT:
thank you!
QcStrt: I assumed I was reading something about a Cannabis Buyer's Cooperative when I glanced at that headline...It didn't cross my mind that it might refer to the Canadian Broadcasting Company or some other organization...FoM: Your dedication to our cause is an inspiration and much appreciated...
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on January 19, 2002 at 10:35:13 PT
lookinside & everyone
I understand needing to step back and take a break. I really can't do that. I can't let people down that come here every day. I am dedicated and I would have quit a long time ago if it weren't for all of you. As I watch the war evolve I become more sure that soon the draft will be started and lots of young men will die. That's the only way to recover the economy since our economy is built upon the Stock Market. War spurs the economy and kills off excess young men. That might sound harsh but I believe what I'm saying.
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Comment #11 posted by QcStrt on January 19, 2002 at 10:27:58 PT
CBC
The pink slips have been delivered and the reality of the first major cut to the B.C. public service is sinking in. This is all I found.-----http://www.bc.cbc.ca/ ---------http://vancouver.cbc.ca/editorServlets/View?filename=bc_aftcuts020117 -------------http://www.cbc.ca/radioone/searchByTime.html
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Comment #10 posted by lookinside on January 19, 2002 at 10:11:53 PT:
FoM...
I know how you feel...I go through periods of frustration and depression over the current situation...All I can do is take a "break" from things...Recharge my batteries and begin again...Our efforts are not in vain...When change comes, it will be very rapid...The domino effect is alive and well...
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Comment #9 posted by MikeEEEEE on January 19, 2002 at 09:56:19 PT
1961 UN Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs
The US has thrown out several treaties. Since Canada and other countries learned prohibition from the US, they could learn how to throw out treaties too.
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Comment #8 posted by Jose Melendez on January 19, 2002 at 09:55:35 PT:
WHO blocks truth on marijuana
"As long as there is no scientific evidence approved, for example, by the World Health Organization, marijuana remains listed among strictly controlled substances as stated in the convention." from:http://www.cavalierdaily.com/.Archives/1998/March/19/edjames.asp"On Feb. 21, New Scientist published a report with evidence that WHO, under pressure from the U.S. National Institute on Drug Abuse and the UN International Drug Control Programme, hid data indicating that marijuana is safer than alcohol or tobacco."
...New Scientist reported that the nixed study "concludes not only that the amount of dope smoked worldwide does less harm to public health than alcohol and cigarettes, but that the same likely will hold true even if people consumed dope on the same scale as these legal substances."
from: http://www.cfdp.ca/newscie.htm
Dr. Robin Room, the chief scientist and sociologist at Ontario's Addiction Research Foundation, and Dr. Wayne Hall, an Australian scientist who has completed extensive marijuana research, were asked to compare the health and psychological risks of cannabis, alcohol, nicotine and opiates.
Dr. Room, who completed the paper in 1995, said he did not know the WHO had excluded their findings until the cannabis report was released.
"I do not agree with the decision not to include this," he said. "It is a relevant thing to put out there for public consumption -- the relative harm associated with these things. It is like studying the relative benefits of margarine or butter."
Their review concluded that certain risks associated with tobacco and alcohol have no equivalent in marijuana use...
and from:
http://www.ndsn.org/FEB98/mj2.html
In a report published in December 1997, the World Health Organization (WHO) scrapped a finding that marijuana, even if consumed on the same scale as alcohol or tobacco, is probably safer than either...
Arrest Prohibition
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Comment #7 posted by FoM on January 19, 2002 at 09:37:56 PT
lookinside
I'll keep my eyes open. I haven't found anything either so far. I'm beginning to think that this might be the beginning of the end for us. I am not depressed either. I'm so realistic it bugs me. Hope for freedom is slipping away right before our eyes. I don't even know if C News will have a purpose much longer. I will keep doing the news but someday soon it might just be too late for it to be worthwhile to continue.
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Comment #6 posted by lookinside on January 19, 2002 at 09:16:55 PT:
FoM...
No...I just saw it up in passing, and didn't think to ask about it until it was gone...I've been searching, but haven't found anything yet...
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on January 19, 2002 at 08:59:23 PT
lookinside
No I haven't seen anything. Is there a link? I'll sure keep my eyes open. I am so mad about this article that I can't type how I feel or you all would think I lost my mind.
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Comment #4 posted by lookinside on January 19, 2002 at 08:51:21 PT:
FoM...
I saw a blurb on Jean's computer about the Victoria CBC being shut down...Have you heard anything?
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Comment #3 posted by Jose Melendez on January 19, 2002 at 08:24:31 PT:
July came and went, still no legal access...
Whatever happened to this?from:http://www.hightimes.com/News/2000_08/CLAY.htmlOTTAWA, ONTARIO-Canada's lawmakers have been given a deadline of one year to write a medical exemption into the federal law banning possession of marijuana, by a July 31, 2000 decision of the Ontario Court of Appeal. If they dally beyond the deadline, warns Ontario's highest court, all the provisions against marijuana in the federal Controlled Drugs and Substances Act will become null and void next July, and police will be unable to bother anyone at all for smoking pot.
http://www.hightimes.com/News/2000_08/CLAY.html
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Comment #2 posted by Ethan Russo MD on January 19, 2002 at 08:21:53 PT:
Proof?
Proof? You want proof of pot, then there is plenty. This matters not when the prohibitionists ignore it, prohibit research, and exercise selective vision. I will provide documentation to whoever agrees to read what they requested.In America, our only hope is that European trials "prove" efficacy, and we can begin to surpass the ever rising bureaucratic bar. Canada will follow, and eventually America will get on board about the same time as Malaysia and Saudi Arabia, unless the people demand fair and equal treatment before that distant time.
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Comment #1 posted by Dark Star on January 19, 2002 at 08:15:43 PT
Another Unjustifiable Delaying Tactic
The Single Convention does not prohibit the approach that Health Canada has planned. All they need to do is articulate what their courts have already decided: prohibition of cannabis to people in medical need is counter to protections of the Canadian Constitution.There it is: Game, Set and Match. Any other country can declare the same and start distributing medicine.
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