cannabisnews.com: Police Kill Second Man at Rainbow Farms Police Kill Second Man at Rainbow Farms Posted by FoM on September 04, 2001 at 10:06:34 PT By James Prichard, Associated Press Writer Source: South Bend Tribune A campground standoff ended Tuesday with a second man being fatally shot after pointing a gun at police, according to the sheriff. Rolland Rohm, 28, was shot about 6:30 a.m. Tuesday, the day after his roommate was fatally shot by an FBI agent, Cass County Sheriff Joseph Underwood Jr. said.Grover T. Crosslin, the owner of the Rainbow Farms campground, was fatally shot by a federal agent Monday evening. The standoff between police and the pair began Friday. A third man, Brandon J. Peoples, suffered minor injuries when Crosslin was shot and was being questioned by authorities. Underwood said Rohm was shot Tuesday after several orders by police to put his weapon down. He said Rohm pointed the gun at a Michigan State Police officer and was shot. It wasn't clear which officer shot Rohm.Underwood said about 3:45 a.m., Rohm asked that his son be brought to see him and told police that if he was, he would surrender at 7 a.m."We were actually having a dialogue with Mr. Rohm and he was in the process, we felt, of bringing this to a successful conclusion," Underwood said.The sheriff said police were in the process of granting the request when shortly after 6 a.m., a fire was reported at the Rainbow Farm residence. Rohm was then seen leaving the residence with a long gun and walking into the yard, Underwood said."He comes out with a weapon and he engages officers again and they have to respond," Underwood said.He said a Michigan state police bomb squad was checking the campground because they believed it had been booby-trapped.The standoff began Friday when deputies went to the farm after neighbors said Crosslin was burning buildings on his property. The sheriff's department said an anonymous caller warned them that the fire was set up to ambush police, so officers set up a perimeter around the camp for safety reasons.Rohm lived at the campground with Crosslin, 47. Crosslin was shot after pointing a gun at an FBI agent, Underwood said. He had become agitated after authorities denied a request for negotiations through a third party, Underwood said.Rohm's mother, Gerry Livermore, said earlier that she had feared there might be a confrontation between Crosslin and her son and police.She said the police "wanted to shut the campground down and what better way to do it than to get rid of Tom," said Livermore, 46, of Rogersville, Tenn. She went to high school in Indiana with Crosslin.She and her husband drove from Tennessee after learning of the standoff on their local television station.Dori Leo, Crosslin's and Rohm's attorney, said she spoke to Rohm late Monday night and had planned to return Tuesday to try to persuade him to leave the farm peacefully. Rohm and his 12-year-old son, who was placed in foster care about a month or two ago, had lived with Crosslin "as a family unit" for at least five years, Leo said.Leo said Crosslin was upset because Rohm's son, who he helped raise, had been taken from the home.Authorities arrested Crosslin and five others in May after a two-year investigation into allegations of marijuana use at the 34-acre campground, about 30 miles northeast of South Bend. Crosslin was charged with felony possession of a firearm, growing marijuana and maintaining a drug house."Because of those criminal charges, his farm was in jeopardy of being taken away. ... Now you have a man who is confronted with losing his family unit," Leo said. "Tom and (Rolland) were going to stay on the farm and they were not going to leave it no matter what."She said Rohm also had faced criminal charges.A court order issued in June prohibited Crosslin from having festival gatherings at the farm. Police allege he violated the order by holding a festival August 17-18, prompting the bond hearing. Deputies said they believe Crosslin was upset about a Friday hearing to revoke his bond.A judge had signed a warrant Monday charging Crosslin with attempted destruction of an aircraft and using a firearm in a felony, the FBI said.Authorities alleged Crosslin shot a news helicopter from WNDU-TV in South Bend as it flew overhead Friday. Shots also were fired at an unmarked state police plane Saturday but missed, police said. Both aircraft landed safely.According to the farm's Web site, Crosslin bought the property about 15 years ago with the idea of supporting, "the medical, spiritual and responsible recreational uses of marijuana for a more sane and compassionate America."The farm includes several buildings including a coffee bar called The Joint, and a hemp-themed gift shop. Each year it hosts two festivals called HempAid and RoachRoast, the Web site says.Complete Title: Police Kill Second Man at Rainbow Farms; Standoff EndsSource: South Bend Tribune (IN)Author: James Prichard, Associated Press WriterPublished: September 04, 2001Copyright: 2001 South Bend TribuneContact: vop sbtinfo.comWebsite: http://www.southbendtribune.com/Related Articles & Web Site:Rainbow Farm Campgroundhttp://www.rainbowfarmcamp.com/Standoff Ends with Shooting of Second Man http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread10812.shtmlStandoff Ends with Shooting of Second Manhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread10812.shtmlFBI Agent Kills Rainbow Farm Ownerhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread10809.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #19 posted by James Parker on September 05, 2001 at 17:58:22 PT: It Was Murder Read today's Detroit Free Press. Crosslin did not point a gun at anyone. He was carrying a gun on his own land. He was burning down his own buildings."Crosslin was shot Monday evening after he left a building on his farm with a gun and ignored calls to drop the weapon, authorities said." by S. Windsor, J. Schaeffer and M. George of the Detroit Free Press. [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by James Parker on September 05, 2001 at 17:47:25 PT: Cocaine Importation Agency Reply to GonepostholeNo, you are neither naive nor wrong. Your "sneaking suspicion" is true. The government IS in the business of importing illegal drugs into this country. Sources: "Powderburns" by Celerino Castillo III, ex DEA, 2000 "Inside the Octopus", by Preston Peet, Dec. 2000 issue of High TimesOn the web, look up the "Tatum Chronicles" by Chip Tatum. Also in print.Find a magazine called "Prevailing Winds". I think they stopped publishing last year after their 8th issue, but you can still get their info at Prevailing Winds Research, Santa Barbara, CA.Early story on Crack & the CIA, by Gary Webb, San Jose Mercury News.Need more??Videos-"Clinton Chronicles"-Seems Mr. Bill did some money laundering for the feds when he was Guv of Arkansas."Conspiracy" by something like Mad Cow ProductionsNeed more?? I can get more. [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by lambsonr on September 05, 2001 at 05:36:02 PT: Unneccesary force The FBI agents who murdered them are trained killers that are taught to handle many different types of situations. So why is it that they had to use deadly force? They claim that Tom pointed his gun at an agent forcing them to kill him. Why? It is just as easy to aim for the shoulder or the knee, both of which would have been effective in disarming him. They had their orders...shoot to kill. [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by Rock-N-Roller on September 04, 2001 at 22:38:19 PT Get up, Stand up, Stand up for your right. In order to bring more media attention to this tragedy we need to make a lot of noise. We need the likes of Gary Johnson, and Normal to attend the funerals and deliver the eulogies. We need to have thousands of people attend the services, so many people it overcomes the place, just like the police and firemen do. If this could happen the media cannot completley ignore this. If we get more media attention it can possibly help to educate the ones who need it. E-Mail Gary Johnson's office, and Normal, lets try to get them there. I will make several posts of this comment. Do not be angry or surprised if you see this again. I will post it in other places. Get up, Stand up, Stand up for your right. [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by doesnotMATTER on September 04, 2001 at 19:17:59 PT anymore 34 acres is ALOT of land...This ameriKKKlan Justice Department "couldn't Have" set some little bogeyman with a big-as% Rifle to make believe that The Feds have "good reason" to "go waco" on a bunch of Poor, Creative Hippies...never, not in THIS century...So......................how are the Mets doing? Is your computer RUNNING FASTER today?Is your hair OK looking today???People don't care about People anymore....I'm MORE than convinced...Freedom?Like anyone EVEN WANTS IT!!! see you on the battleground... [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by Lehder on September 04, 2001 at 18:07:40 PT i'm not so sure Phillip, you say,"Instead of going to the bail hearing, Crosslin went home and began destroying the properties the cops would seize. No, he shouldn't have shot at the news chopper. "but it has not been established, at least for me, that he actually shot at the helicopter. maybe somebody shot at a helicopter, maybe not. as i understand it, this is a federal violation, and if such a violation prompted, or indeed was legally necessary, for bringing in the fbi, then i regard any statements about the shots as open to question. i don't trust the news. what i know is that the standoff went on for three days, then the fbi appeared, and two killings quickly followed. many other questions could also be asked. [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by potatoshoe on September 04, 2001 at 17:57:44 PT Message from Mark of Michigan [this is being posted on several threads; please pardonthe redundancy]A message from Mark Koernke -- Michigan militia leader, currentlyin prison:Subject: UrgentDate: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:28:20 -0400From: "Eric Koernke" My Dad (Mark Koernke) wanted me to send this message out. First of all in light of what just happened in Vandalia, CassCounty, contact all individuals of poeple who videotaped it. Copythe video's and spread them around. A review or survey of the areaneeds to be done of people who videotaped who may not be incontact with freindly's. Contact these people, and do the same.For those that took pictures of the Vandalia incident do notdevelop these pictures locally, at least take them a couple ofcounty's away. In addition make duplicates and send the duplicatesto another party, take one set and photo copy in color, orblack+white to be distributed. We also need people making videotapes of news programs. We needcopys of all tapes that have been done already of the newspieces.Anyone who can make it to the National Guard Posts, State PolicePosts, County Sheriff's we need to go to these sites, and takepictures of them. We need people out there taking pictures, andtaping people going in, and coming out. Anyone who goes take howto find us sheets, give them to people in stores, cover the town.Every town one half hour radious needs to be covered with the howto find sheets. The APC's that were in this operation weremilitary L.A.B. APC's. The news footage shows the drivers, theyneed to be identified, anyone who can be identified should benoted, we need to know who stinks the worst. We need news footageof people under siege like this. [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by lookinside on September 04, 2001 at 17:57:10 PT: bad information... ok...there were 3 men in rainbow farms property...there wereDOZENS of armed police surrounding it... who had more to lose having a media copter in the area,filming and witnessing the events?I ACCUSE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OF SHOOTING AT THE COPTER...I ACCUSE THE FBI OF SHOOTING 2 UNARMED MEN AND CLAIMING THEYWERE ARMED...I ACCUSE THE SHERIFF'S DEPT. OF OBTAINING THE FEDERALWARRANT UNDER FALSE PRETENSES AFTER THEMSELVES SHOOTING ATTHE COPTER...I ACCUSE ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES INVOLVED OF A COVERUP...I ACCUSE ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES PRESENT OF CONSPIRACYTO DEPRIVE U.S. CITIZENS OF THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS...I DEMAND THAT THEY BE ARRESTED AND A GRAND JURY ENPANELED TOEXPLORE THESE CHARGES... [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by E. Johnson on September 04, 2001 at 17:56:54 PT Fighting plays right into their hands Our biggest weapon against them is their own cruelty. [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by MikeEEEEE on September 04, 2001 at 17:46:01 PT War on some drugs This is a very sad day, more friends have died in the name of the drug war.One day this crazy BS will be over. [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by BCM on September 04, 2001 at 17:22:44 PT It's time to roll up our sleeves and FIGHT It's time to use violent resistance against the police, FBI, and DEA when they violate my rights. They are continually violating our rights beyond comprhension. These two men that died for the cause today and yesterday will become MARTYRS for the violent resistance movement, much like Ruby Ridge and Waco were an inspiration for Timothy McVeigh and his conspirators. FIGHT THE POWER. [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by FoM on September 04, 2001 at 16:01:58 PT Just a note I have two articles ready to post but I just am having a hard time because of what just happened. I will be posting the news soon. I had this same problem when Peter McWilliams died. It's hard to move an article down sometimes. Thanks Everyone. [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by FoM on September 04, 2001 at 15:56:29 PT Here you go Morgan You had it right. All you needed was the http:// in front of the url.Thanks!http://www.injusticeline.com/victims.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by Morgan on September 04, 2001 at 15:52:30 PT oops Try this: www.injusticeline.com/victims.html***************************************************** [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by Morgan on September 04, 2001 at 15:31:47 PT More Victims of this War www.injusticeline.com/vistims.html***************************************************** [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by goneposthole on September 04, 2001 at 14:59:36 PT what to do- may be this will work I have a sneaking suspicion that there are operatives in the us government that are involved whole hog in the distribution of drugs. I have absolutely no evidence what so ever, just an intuitive hunch. If I am wrong, so what. Big deal. But if they are, it can be brought to its knees. They want it both ways. Call me naive and just plain stupid. I won't mind.I love to smoke pot, it keeps me from drinking too much alcohol. I have done so since I was 19 years old. I am 20 years older now. I can safely lie about my age and not feel guilty.If you want a successful blackout, quit buying the stuff and get it by your own means besides spending money on it. That will force the law enforcement authorities to go after the real criminals, and you will be safe from their ridiculous antics. Given that we are now easy picken's, they won't know where to turn.The medical marijuana recipients will have more supply and will feel better. Do it for them and us all. I know I will be able to. Growers, give it away to people who need it. You will be richly rewarded in ways you hadn't thought of to date. Maybe it will work and maybe it won't. But you will gain more than you lose, believe me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by The GCW on September 04, 2001 at 12:58:18 PT More sickness in the ranks. US NV: Column: Boy, Do They Ever Want Trails End Ranchhttp://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n1625/a03.html?397 Sick sick sick.FoM, I have not checked out everything on your site here, but in case it does not exist, it may serve our needs to have a complete roster of Americas forfieture victims. Especially those who have had their property taken for simple benign cannabis related issues. It is reasonable that when this is over, unlike the prohibition of booze, this is all going to appear BARBARIC. It will require that the Government pay back their thefts. [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by E. Johnson on September 04, 2001 at 12:47:09 PT What to do now? The news media can't be allowed to forget this. This is too horrible. [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by Phillip Smith on September 04, 2001 at 12:33:47 PT: martyrs for the movement The two men killed by cops over the weekend at Rainbow Farm in Michigan died for their beliefs. Local authorities couldn't tolerate Tim Crosslin's hemp festivals, so they indicted him on marijuana and gun charges, initiated civil asset forfeiture proceedings, and took a child into state custody. Then, when Crosslin had the temerity to schedule another hemp festival, the local thugs called that violation of his bail and attempted to have his bond revoked on Friday. Instead of going to the bail hearing, Crosslin went home and began destroying the properties the cops would seize. No, he shouldn't have shot at the news chopper. But whatever actions Crosslin took, he was driven to them by the incessant harassment of the cops, prosecutors, etc. This should be the marijuana movement's Ruby Ridge. I would say more, but you anti-profanity policy stifles me. [ Post Comment ] Post Comment