Cannabis News NORML - It's Time for a Change!
  Measure P Fires Up City Officials
Posted by CN Staff on October 18, 2006 at 08:32:44 PT
By David Ferry, Staff Writer 
Source: Daily Nexus 

cannabis California -- With an initiative on the ballot to make pot possession a “lowest-priority” crime in Santa Barbara, the city’s weed smokers will have to clear their foggy memories and remember to vote in November’s upcoming election.

Measure P, an initiative for the City of Santa Barbara on Nov. 7’s election ballot, would make adult marijuana possession intended for personal use legally equivalent to jaywalking and minor traffic violations. Santa Barbara Mayor Marty Blum, who does not support the measure, said she believes it will pass - despite opposition from the Santa Barbara Police Dept. - because of strong support from the public.

If the proposition passes, Blum will create a committee to monitor all police activity involving marijuana citations. The committee would require a written report from officers for all such incidents, and would be in charge of ensuring that the laws applicable to lowest-priority crimes are enforced.

SBPD Spokesman Lt. Paul McCaffrey said the measure is a mistake and will interfere with the department’s ability to catch drug dealers. McCaffrey said he believes that if the measure passes, the committee will punish officers dealing with marijuana issues, which could in turn make public use of marijuana more widespread.

“I think if the law passes it’s going to be a problem for a lot of people; it’s going to be less safe,” McCaffrey said. “I think more people will be using marijuana in situations that you don’t really want them to.”

Officers are also arguing that the measure is unnecessary because the SBPD already places very little emphasis on catching adults with small quantities of marijuana. McCaffrey also said the current citation for possessing small amounts of the plant is close to the price of a moving vehicle violation.

“The language [on the Measure] doesn’t take into consideration how much of a priority marijuana enforcement is right now,” McCaffrey said.

Though Blum has been a supporter of medicinal marijuana in the past, she said she does not support the upcoming measure. She said the law is unnecessary because the police already treat marijuana possession as a low-priority crime. Blum said, if anything, the law would inhibit the SBPD’s ability to fight drug dealing.

“What is the problem we’re trying to solve [with this measure]?” Blum said.

One of Santa Barbara’s public officials, a number of citizens, and groups of UCSB students have expressed support for the measure.

Lara Cassell, the campaign coordinator manager for Measure P, said SBPD’s fears are unfounded because the measure would not prevent officers from arresting individuals or prosecuting them. Instead, the oversight committee would help citizens who feel they have been unjustly arrested by the SBPD for marijuana incidents, she said.

“This doesn’t tie the police’s hands in any way,” Cassell said. “The measure is actually only for adult marijuana offenses where the intention is for adult use.”

According to a poll conducted by Sensible Santa Barbara, an organization created to support Measure P, the majority of the city’s population supports the initiative.

City Councilman Das Williams said he supports the proposition because he thinks there are more important things for police to pursue, citing the growing use of methamphetamine in Santa Barbara. Williams also said the measure would allow the SBPD to enforce marijuana laws based on specific situations.

“If you look at the measure and how it basically says you still can enforce the intent to sell, that still gives the police the discretion to enforce marijuana laws,” Williams said.

Ethan Kravitz, a fourth-year computer engineering major and chair of Sensible Santa Barbara, said most UCSB students will not be able to vote for the measure, because it applies only to residents of Santa Barbara. Despite this, the initiative is a popular topic on campus, Kravitz said.

Kravitz said members of UCSB’s chapter of the National Organization for the Reformation of Marijuana Laws petitioned Santa Barbara city residents for signatures to support the measure.

“The whole population’s been really supportive; very few people said anything negative,” Kravitz said. “Most people signed it or were upset that they couldn’t sign it.”

Local supporters and members of the UCSB chapter of NORML collected 10,000 signatures in order to place the measure on the ballot, Kravitz said. Measure P is based on similar laws passed in the cities of Seattle and Denver, and similar measures are currently under consideration by residents of Santa Cruz and Santa Monica, Calif.

Newshawk: Paul Armentano
Source: Daily Nexus (UC Santa Barbara, CA Edu)
Author: David Ferry, Staff Writer
Published: Tuesday, October 17, 2006
Copyright: 2006 Daily Nexus
Contact: opinion@dailynexus.com
Website: http://www.ucsbdailynexus.com/

Related Article & Web Site:

NORML
http://www.norml.org/

Committee Lobbies for Marijuana Proposition
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21632.shtml

CannabisNews -- Cannabis Archives
http://cannabisnews.com/news/list/cannabis.shtml


Home    Comment    Email    Register    Recent Comments    Help

 
Comment #65 posted by FoM on October 19, 2006 at 13:14:43 PT
Off Topiic: On The Invasion of Iraq
US Army Concedes Failure in Baghdad

***

By Demetri Sevastopulo in Washington and Steve Negus, Iraq Correspondent

Published: October 19 2006

American and Iraqi efforts to improve security in Baghdad have failed to reduce bloodshed in the increasingly violent Iraqi capital, the senior US military spokesman in Iraq acknowledged on Thursday.

In an uncharacteristically gloomy admission, Major General William Caldwell said the recent surge in violence was “disheartening”. He said US and Iraqi forces would have to “refocus” security measures. The review was demanded by General George Casey, who commands the 140,000 US troops in Iraq.

URL: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/5240e35e-5f99-11db-a011-0000779e2340.html

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #64 posted by FoM on October 19, 2006 at 12:00:32 PT
Museman
When Stephen Stills sang Old Man Trouble it blew me away. He got down on that piano. Bless his heart.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #63 posted by FoM on October 19, 2006 at 11:58:15 PT
Museman
That makes me happy. What a wonderful concert it was. After it was over I felt lost. Now hearing it all again reminds me how important this tour was. I didn't get happy from seeing this tour but a lot of righteous indignation has been building. I love Neil and now Crosby, Stills and Nash. I am so glad I was able to see the four of them together.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #62 posted by Museman on October 19, 2006 at 11:19:52 PT
FoM #44
Sister, you made my day!

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #61 posted by whig on October 19, 2006 at 11:05:43 PT
Cross-pollination
Between yeast and the tree of life.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #60 posted by whig on October 19, 2006 at 11:02:31 PT
Edgar
I'm pretty sure my little starter was named for Ed Rosenthal.

My wife is excited too.

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #59 posted by whig on October 19, 2006 at 10:57:18 PT
Hope
Thank you. I plan to keep it relatively simple for the first batch and if it doesn't turn out, I won't have invested more in it than I needed to. Once I can make bread, I'll try splitting off with different grains and see how well it adapts. And eventually, especially if it's good bread, I will be able to say to people who want a little starter that they can have this piece, and take good care of it and feed their families too.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #58 posted by FoM on October 19, 2006 at 07:31:09 PT
Hope
I am glad that MSNBC let him speak his mind. They got rid of Jesse Ventura when he did that.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #57 posted by FoM on October 19, 2006 at 07:27:31 PT
gloovins
Thank you. Vexation of the spirit is a waste of time. How can people change the world if they are always down in the dumps is the way I look at it all. I am hoping that my state elects Democrats because I know they will help the poorer folks that need help in our depressed economy in my state. I see how people I know have been crushed by big business.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #56 posted by Hope on October 19, 2006 at 07:21:35 PT
Whig
Making bread usually requires it not turning out so well the first time or two. If you stay at it though, you can make bread...good bread.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #55 posted by Hope on October 19, 2006 at 07:13:57 PT
Comment 41
I thought the same thing.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #54 posted by gloovins on October 19, 2006 at 04:13:40 PT
a little OT but related somewhat
During all this political rhetoric come Nov, I just say vote Libertarian & at least you can say you're not part of the problem (the duopoly) ... w/ that I believe in All You needing is L-O-V-E & Musica...so I'll leave you w/ that & a hope & prayer to the universal high-spirit force for the cannabis reform laws this Nov. In NEV, COLO, MONTANA & the cities as well...

Peace & love

Gloovins

Vexation of spirit is a waste of time, Negative thinking, don't you waste your thoughts Verbal conflict is a waste of word, Physical conflict is a waste of flesh, People will always be who they want, And thats what really makes the world go round, Unconditional love is scarce. Bless -- Damien Marley

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #53 posted by whig on October 19, 2006 at 01:07:43 PT
And so...
We are now creator Gods if we want to be. Edgar is not the first or the last, just my first. There are many sourdough colonies out there, each tenderly cared for by someone, and given in small quantities to one another for bread-making and cross-breeding.

My special herbs and spices might make a difference.

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #52 posted by whig on October 19, 2006 at 00:44:36 PT
Because I'm funny that way sometimes
I'm going to call my little yeast colony my son, and name him Edgar. I don't know why Edgar, that's just the name I felt. So I said it, and there it is, and I hope he lives to be a thousand or more.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #51 posted by whig on October 19, 2006 at 00:40:47 PT
Recipe
I used a little honey and oil too, because they emulsify together and can help the yeast to get full nutrition -- I hope. This is really cool, making bread literally from scratch and trying out your own recipe. It works or it doesn't.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #50 posted by whig on October 19, 2006 at 00:38:13 PT
Oh my
I hope I don't get ants. Do you think putting a little yeast to rise with flour the ants would be attracted? I'll have to check it in the morning to make sure it's not a problem.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #49 posted by whig on October 19, 2006 at 00:34:25 PT
Sourdough recipe
http://www.io.com/~sjohn/sour.htm

I figure there should be some good culture in the air out here in San Francisco. Doncha think?

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #48 posted by afterburner on October 18, 2006 at 22:46:36 PT
Oops, Left One Out
Democracy Under Attack in the U.S. - OhmyNews International. [Opinion] New law passed by Congress reminiscent of Hitler's Enabling Act by Ronda Hauben (netizen2). Published 2006-10-04 07:16 (KST). "The U.S. Congress has just passed a law that fundamentally changes the rights and protections afforded people under the U.S. Constitution. The law is called the Military Commissions Act of 2006 (S.3930).

"Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he knew the law violated the Constitution, as did others. That didn't stop them from voting for it. What is the significance of this new law?

"Essentially, it provides legal cover for the executive branch of government to violate the rights of the people in the U.S. The law says that if the government suspects that someone is an enemy of the U.S. or gives material aid to someone who is an enemy, that person can be taken into custody and held indefinitely with no way of challenging his or her detention." more... http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=321074&rel_no=1

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #47 posted by afterburner on October 18, 2006 at 22:36:50 PT
mayan 22: more OT
Bush signs law authorizing harsh interrogation By Steve Holland. Tue Oct 17, 4:59 PM ET.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush signed a law on Tuesday allowing tough CIA interrogation and military trials for terrorism suspects, triggering bitter election-year denunciations from Democrats. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061017/pl_nm/security_bush_dc_5

[House of Representatives Roll Call:] Final Vote Results for Roll Call 491 -- HR 6166 -- Military Commissions Act http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll491.xml

[Senate Roll Call:] GovTrack: S. 3930: Military Commissions Act of 2006 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2006-259

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #46 posted by FoM on October 18, 2006 at 22:04:11 PT
Had Enough
You're welcome. I hope you get many or all of them downloaded. Good Luck!

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #45 posted by Had Enough on October 18, 2006 at 21:53:39 PT
re: 44 (not just the Amendment :-) )
Thanks FoM. I checked it out. I like them all. Before I call it quits for the night, I will attempt to download as many as I can, and see what I have just about when the rosters start crowing in the morning. After that I try to get the rest.

Cool! Thanks again.

Colorado/Nevada citizens: Help vote to end this insane cannabis prohibition on Nov 7, or forever hold your peace.

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #44 posted by FoM on October 18, 2006 at 21:27:05 PT
Had Enough
I wanted you to see this link. It's the live performance of CSNY in Toronto. I have the songs downloaded and on a CD and have been playing them most of the day. Almost all the songs are good. When I turned up the bass and turned down the treble I could turn up the volume and it was like I was back at the concert in Pittsburgh. If you can only download one of the songs because of time I really love Southbound Train.

http://www.4waysite.com/download/mp3.html

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #43 posted by FoM on October 18, 2006 at 21:16:26 PT
Had Enough
A clean win is what we need. I am hopeful about changing our direction at least a little this election day. I hope all the Initiatives pass. My state needs help really badly and maybe we will get it this November. We had a house that we have had for about 20 years. It hasn't been occupied for years and the insurance company said because it was vacant the premium would go up 500%. We sold it.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #42 posted by Had Enough on October 18, 2006 at 21:11:31 PT
re: 35
Our insurance went way up, coverage went way down. Big corp does it again.

A clean win.

Yes, a clean win is what we need.

Yes

Yes on Amendment 44!!!

Yes on Question 7!!!

Voters of Colorado/Nevada, history is in your hands. Push that button. Go for it. Just do it.

VOTE! VOTE!! VOTE!!! Take a Friend with you, share the ride. Enjoy the trip.

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #41 posted by FoM on October 18, 2006 at 20:11:41 PT
dongenero
I'm glad you saw it. It was really good. I actually can't believe they let him say it and live too.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #40 posted by dongenero on October 18, 2006 at 20:03:17 PT
FoM #25
I saw that Keith Olbermann commentary tonight FoM. It was fantastic! Talk about saying what needs to be said...it was awesome.

I had read his blog before but, my wife and I have just begun watching his program in the evening. He has a couple of new fans.

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #39 posted by whig on October 18, 2006 at 18:59:57 PT
I'm an idiot
The yeast is the fishes. Okay, this will be fun.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #38 posted by whig on October 18, 2006 at 18:47:43 PT
Blessed are the cheesemakers
Just had to be said. Monty Python fans in the house, represent.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #37 posted by whig on October 18, 2006 at 18:42:59 PT
This isn't Passover
Don't forget to leaven the bread. This won't be the bread of affliction anymore.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #36 posted by whig on October 18, 2006 at 18:35:49 PT
Here's the recipe
Feed the yeast.

Bake the bread.

Serve the bread.

Eat the bread.

Get it?

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #35 posted by FoM on October 18, 2006 at 18:34:51 PT
A Clean Win
That's what we need. The one young man that is working on our house had his basement wall collapse. This is a family home that they have been paying insurance on for over 20 years. As far as I know they have never put in a claim. When the insurance adjuster came to the house he canceled their insurance. That's it. Something is really wrong with how things are anymore.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #34 posted by whig on October 18, 2006 at 18:34:50 PT
Genetic engineering
Did I mention that my medicine is made from yeast?

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #33 posted by whig on October 18, 2006 at 18:33:29 PT
Hope
Fortunately, I think I've figured out the loaves part. I don't know what to do with the fishes yet.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #32 posted by Hope on October 18, 2006 at 18:26:35 PT
A Clean Win
No arguing. No bickering. No keeping people from voting. and a result that we can kind of have confidence in.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #31 posted by FoM on October 18, 2006 at 18:15:32 PT
Hope
That's why I am following some of the polls that are concerns in my state so closely. The words from LFAL are so true.

We got to have a clean win to regain confidence.

Looking For a Leader Lyrics

***

Yeah we've got our election

But corruption has a chance

We got to have a clean win

To regain confidence

AMERICA is beautiful

But she has an ugly side

We're lookin' for a leader

In this country far and wide

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #30 posted by Hope on October 18, 2006 at 18:15:22 PT
We're being forced by a law
to get ready to use machines.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #29 posted by Hope on October 18, 2006 at 18:13:44 PT
I don't ever want to have to hear anymore
about "hanging chads" and tampered with machines.

A piece of paper is something substantial as well. I can see it. I can hold it. It is my vote and I bet all those volunteers do a pretty dang good job of counting them after the polls close.

That's just what I think.

And they're huge and they have big dark, bold printing on them.

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #28 posted by Hope on October 18, 2006 at 18:08:37 PT
Ballots
Our big paper ballots are about the size of a page of newspaper. Then you fold em and drop in a big box and everybody watches and witnesses. It's friendly, but it's solemn and serious.

You get checked off a list as having voted.

Then they count em and people would listen to the poll reports on radio and television.

For some reason, most of my life that I've been aware of voting, I've always dreaded having to use a voting machine and now, apparently, I will have to.

I know a little about cyberspace and too much of the wrong stuff about Diebold. I'm worried.

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #27 posted by FoM on October 18, 2006 at 18:02:30 PT
Hope
Paper and I'll even put my finger in ink to make sure it is fair. I want our country back.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #26 posted by Hope on October 18, 2006 at 18:00:36 PT
Voting machines
I don't trust them.

The large paper ballot is just dandy.

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #25 posted by FoM on October 18, 2006 at 17:58:46 PT
Oh My Keith Olbermann
I had tears in my eyes listening and watching Keith Olbermann tonight.

Olbermann addresses the Military Commissions Act in a special comment.

Beginning of the End of America: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15321167/

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #24 posted by Hope on October 18, 2006 at 17:53:43 PT
in a one month period thousands of times
Comment 16.

That would be me.

:0)

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #23 posted by whig on October 18, 2006 at 17:53:28 PT
mayan
Speaking of Blackwell and Ohio:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3631

The worst county for elections in the US, Cuyahoga Co. Ohio has taken another step into the realm of the absurd. The county wants to get their votes tabulated as quickly as possible and they apparently aren't worried as much about accuracy so they are using a new add-on device from Diebold that has never been used in an election and is not even complete with the federal inspection process yet. This device reads the data from the voting machine memory cards, six cards at a time in one minute. The county just has to get the totals out quickly; never mind the accuracy of those totals. / Massachusetts has still not settled on accessible voting machines. Three weeks from election day is too late to bring in new machines and train workers. The state, apparently, is also going to ignore HAVA and not require a new machine at each polling place….

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #22 posted by mayan on October 18, 2006 at 17:46:19 PT
Wrong Again & Again & Again...
McCaffrey said he believes that if the measure passes, the committee will punish officers dealing with marijuana issues, which could in turn make public use of marijuana more widespread.

Cannabis use goes down whenever and wherever cannabis laws are relaxed! We must call the liars on this every time.

Marijuana Consumption Drops in U.K. Despite Liberalized Laws: http://www.jointogether.org/news/headlines/inthenews/2006/marijuana-consumption-drops.html

Measure P will pass easily and the sky won't fall. The prohibitionists will be proved wrong once again. Don't they ever get tired of being wrong? I couldn't stand being wrong ALL of the time. I would probably learn to be right once in a while!

When it passes, they should dedicate Measure P to Johnny Pee!!!

FoM, Blackwell is up to his old tricks again...

ACTION ALERT: Blackwell purged Ohio Voter Rolls Oct 1st - Vote Early: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/10/18/85915/109

It's time for the pre-election "BOOGA-BOOGA" to begin...

Dirty bomb threats target NFL stadiums: http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Dirty_bomb_threats_target_NFL_stadiums_1018.html

With the Republicans and their "war on terror" poised to collapse, just who would benefit?

THE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN...

The PROMIS of 9/11 and Beyond: http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1322.shtml

Access Hollywood Covers Charlie Sheen (short video): http://youtube.com/watch?v=KOi7pTW5Sn0

Well-Timed Scandal Implication Pushing 9/11 Able-Danger Whistle Blower Weldon Out of House: http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/181006_weldon.html

WTC Collapse Conference - UC Berkeley - 11/11/2006: http://911blogger.com/node/3853

Steven Jones to speak at Project Censored Conference - November 3rd & 4th - Sonoma State University: http://www.projectcensored.org/conference.htm

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #21 posted by FoM on October 18, 2006 at 17:30:55 PT
Dutch MS Patient Allowed To Grow Pot
This is a subscription and a snipped source article.

October 18, 2006

THE HAGUE - A Dutch appeals court on Tuesday handed down a landmark ruling allowing an MS patient to grow cannabis for his personal use to alleviate the symptoms of his illness.

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=79859b88-e287-421f-8539-9494691cc575

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #20 posted by global_warming on October 18, 2006 at 17:08:58 PT
seems enough
enough to end this bloody and senseless war on human beings who use cannabis.

I have no pity for those who have placed their entire existence on the sole purpose of prosecuting or exterminating users of cannabis.



[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #19 posted by whig on October 18, 2006 at 16:35:14 PT
gw
According to Technorati, Cannabis News ranks 30,267 in the entire blogosphere, with 485 links from 93 blogs. By contrast, Cannablog ranks 200,876 with 37 links from 16 blogs.

These may not be the statistics you want, but they seemed interesting enough to mention. Those rankings are out of approximately 55 million blogs.

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #18 posted by whig on October 18, 2006 at 16:29:36 PT
Joe Citizen
Well explained and I agree with you. The racist police are being denied any excuses. Why do you think we have so many police? Do you think we have a lot of police because there is so much crime? No, there is crime where there are police, they are two sides of a coin. Increase one and the other follows, decrease one and the same goes.

By ending cannabis prohibition, or even taking away the police enforcement powers with respect to the lower socioeconomic classes, we remove their necessity, they have to find new jobs. The police love prohibition for the most part, except when they get killed. At least marijuana users tend to be peaceful and don't threaten the police person's safety very much. Easy targets and a good way to keep yourself employed.

Less prohibition, less crime, less police, less fear, less terror.

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #17 posted by global_warming on October 18, 2006 at 16:26:50 PT
: in a one month period thousands of times
Thousands and thousands equal Millions

Of Citizens and Voters

Who "will" take down this immoral place

That "smirks" before Eternity.



[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #16 posted by FoM on October 18, 2006 at 16:16:44 PT
global_warming
How do I measure big? Let's see. Since the stats aren't the same as they had been for years they are way harder for me to figure out but many articles are accessed in a one month period thousands of times. That's about the best I can do to explain.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #15 posted by global_warming on October 18, 2006 at 16:01:58 PT
hey Fomme
How big are We'



[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #14 posted by global_warming on October 18, 2006 at 15:50:24 PT
re: sailors and the soul in the Night
http://tinyurl.com/ym45yv

I was a sailor, I was lost at sea I was under the waves Before love rescued me I was a fighter, I could turn on a thread Now I stand accused of the things Ive said

Love comes to town Im gonna jump that train When love comes to town Im gonna catch that flame Maybe I was wrong to ever let you down But I did what I did before love came to town

I used to make love under a red sunset I was making promises I was soon to forget She was pale as the lace of her wedding gown But I left her standing before love came to town

I ran into a juke joint when I heard a guitar scream The notes were turning blue, I was dazing in a dream As the music played I saw my life turn around That was the day before love came to town

When love comes to town Im gonna jump that train When love comes to town Im gonna catch that flame Maybe I was wrong to ever let you down But I did what I did before love came to town

I was there when they crucified my lord I held the scabbard when the soldier drew his sword I threw the dice when they pierced his side But Ive seen love conquer the great divide

When love comes to town Im gonna catch that train When love comes to town Im gonna catch that flame Maybe I was wrong to ever let you down But I did what I did before love came to town

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #13 posted by FoM on October 18, 2006 at 15:27:35 PT
Celaya
I think it's because we are big and spotted easily and then the papers that want can keep an eye on us. I'll delete the post. Thank you.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #12 posted by global_warming on October 18, 2006 at 15:22:38 PT
re: comment 9
JC I think you have nailed accurately, let Jim Pot Crow hang.

I am not worrying about the children, It is my ass that can be brought before some comfortable magistrate.

Yes on Colorado 44, Yes on Nevada Q7, and Yes and Yes.



[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #11 posted by Celaya on October 18, 2006 at 15:07:37 PT
FoM
I'm sorry about that. I've never run into that kind of problem before. If you need to delete my post, please feel free to do so.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #10 posted by observer on October 18, 2006 at 14:59:03 PT
What is the problem ?
Santa Barbara Mayor Marty Blum ... What is the problem we’re trying to solve [with this measure]?” Blum said.

This problem:

According to the new BJS report, “Drug Use and Dependence, State and Federal Prisoners, 2004,” 12.7 percent of state inmates and 12.4 percent of federal inmates incarcerated for drug violations are serving time for marijuana offenses
A Billion Dollars a Year for Pot?, Paul Armentano, 10/18/2006 http://cannabisnews.com/news/22/thread22296.shtml

Santa Barbara Mayor Marty Blum ... What is the problem we’re trying to solve [with this measure]?” Blum said.

If people aren't jailed for cannabis now, then what's the big deal about simply bringing the law into line with reality?

Of course, as I'm sure Mayor Marty Blum well knows, people are being jailed for no other reason than marijuana, and they are being jailed for pot in the U.S. in large and ever-increasing numbers.

What is the problem with politicians trying a little honesty? Throw the bums out, says I.

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #9 posted by JoeCitizen on October 18, 2006 at 13:24:41 PT
Whig - Police Discretion = Police Discrimination
When you read things like "Officers are also arguing that the measure is unnecessary because the SBPD already places very little emphasis on catching adults with small quantities of marijuana", what that really means is, Police only emphasize catching adults with small amounts of marijuana when THEY DON'T LIKE THEM.

Your freedom and safety are then left up to the whim and caprice of any and every cop. Say the cop doesn't like you because of your race, your religion, the way your features look, the way you dress, the bumpersticker you have on your car, or any one of a hundred other reasons, real or imagined. All any cop has to do is say that he/she smelled a "strong odor of marijuana in the vicinity of the car" and that's a pull over, a search, maybe a bust.

Discretionary laws like this are a big part of the Driving While Black phenomena. A cop can't pull you over for being black in the wrong part of town, but he can claim "probable cause" and pull you over for to search for pot any old time he wants.

Bear in mind that most police officers have only a high school education, and that most departments screen out overly educated individuals because police beat work is so repetitive and boring that smart people tend to burn out on it. And that many people apply to the police academy because they love power, love wearing a uniform, and worship authority.

How many of you want a poorly educated, power-crazy thug in a uniform to have unlimited discretion to pull you over? Me neither. That's why laws that restrict that ability are so important. Short of full legalization, these half-steps towards decriminalizing it are the best we can do.

Joe Citizen

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #8 posted by FoM on October 18, 2006 at 13:17:49 PT
Celaya
Do you know that is a required snipped source newspaper? I hope we don't get taken off line.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #7 posted by FoM on October 18, 2006 at 13:16:26 PT
On the Spot: Dr. Abrams Responds
http://pub.ucsf.edu/today/print.php?news_id=200610173

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #5 posted by whig on October 18, 2006 at 12:52:15 PT
Why do they keep saying this?
"Officers are also arguing that the measure is unnecessary because the SBPD already places very little emphasis on catching adults with small quantities of marijuana. McCaffrey also said the current citation for possessing small amounts of the plant is close to the price of a moving vehicle violation."

If the measure just ratifies the current practice of the police anyhow, then there is no reason not to adopt it. If there is such a low emphasis on cannabis prosecution, then requiring there to be such a low emphasis should not bother the police one bit.

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #4 posted by Nausicaa on October 18, 2006 at 12:13:02 PT
Why
"...which could in turn make public use of marijuana more widespread."

Why is it that everytime a LEO talks about the dangers of legalizing the posession of cannabis, they always say that its usage will increase. Okay, so what if it increases? What negative social consequences does this increased usage breed? They never mention ANYTHING. They equate the very usage of cannabis as something negative.

Furthermore, I find it laughable when they claim that posession of cannabis is already a minor offense making this measure unnecessary. If it's so unnecessary and meaningless, why to they feel the need to speak out against it?

[ Post Comment ]

 
Comment #3 posted by billos on October 18, 2006 at 11:04:39 PT
Just amazing
How the LEO's act as if they are all PHd's....

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #2 posted by paul armentano on October 18, 2006 at 09:17:24 PT
This year's "pot friendly" ballot initiatives
For a summary of this year's state and local "pot friendly" initiatives, please see my essay here:

http://www.hightimes.com/ht/legal/content.php?bid=1421&aid=22

ELECTION 2006 - Sowing the Seeds of Pot Reform 2006-09-15    >> legal category      >> legal article

By Paul Armentano

While drug law reformers should not view the initiative process as the primary mechanism for enacting substantive legislative reform (that duty still belongs to state legislatures and Congress), there’s little doubt that voter initiatives have been a highly successful way for activists to amend and overturn some of America’s more egregious marijuana policies.

....

This November, citizens at both the state and local level will once again have opportunities to vote directly for marijuana law reform, as more than a half dozen pot liberalization measures will appear on the 2006 ballot. Below is a summary of this fall’s most prominent ‘pot-friendly’ proposals.

[ Post Comment ]
 
Comment #1 posted by paul armentano on October 18, 2006 at 09:13:45 PT
Don't forget about Montana
[Excerpt]

http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2006/10/18/news/local/znews02.txt

Initiative 2 would make marijuana lowest priority By TRISTAN SCOTT of the Missoulian

A ballot initiative that aims to make marijuana crimes the single lowest priority for Missoula County authorities - pegged below even jaywalking on the hierarchy of enforcement - has met heavy opposition from adversaries who argue the drug would become more available to young people.

But proponents of the measure, dubbed Initiative 2, have accrued an authoritative advocate who recently showed his support in Missoula.

Norm Stamper's credentials are impressive. A 34-year veteran police officer with a Ph.D. in behavioral psychology, Stamper served as chief of the Seattle Police Department from 1994 until 2000,

...

Stamper is also plenty familiar with the nuts and bolts of Missoula's Initiative 2 because Washington voters passed a similar measure affecting Seattle's police department several years ago - Initiative 75.

In Missoula, like Seattle, the measure strives to place increased emphasis on crimes that threaten people's lives and property and on other, more pressing drug issues. A clause in the measure leans on local law enforcement to make “citations, arrests, property seizures and prosecutions for adult marijuana offenses Missoula County's lowest law enforcement priority.”

“It puts marijuana crimes on par with a minor traffic offense,” Stamper said.

[ Post Comment ]


  Post Comment
Name:        Password:
E-Mail:

Subject:

Comment:   [Please refrain from using profanity in your message]

Link URL:
Link Title:


Return to Main Menu


So everyone may enjoy this service and to keep it running, here are some guidelines: NO spamming, NO commercial advertising, NO flamming, NO illegal activity, and NO sexually explicit materials. Lastly, we reserve the right to remove any message for any reason!

This web page and related elements are for informative purposes only and thus the use of any of this information is at your risk! We do not own nor are responsible for visitor comments. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107 and The Berne Convention on Literary and Artistic Works, Article 10, news clippings on this site are made available without profit for research and educational purposes. Any trademarks, trade names, service marks, or service names used on this site are the property of their respective owners. Page updated on October 18, 2006 at 08:32:44