Bit late for that, probably. I certainly hope so.

U.S. Muslim Group Irked by `Fascist' Term

I remember thinking at the time, when I grasped what "Propaganda" meant, that what I was watching was "Propaganda". I did learn to watch out for "Government Propaganda" because of those films and literature.

Ooooh...we "The People" have become as dangerous as some elite predicted to other elite.

We have the Bible. We have the right to arms. We are educated. We think.

How much more dangerous can the little people be than that?

We have everything they warned us against only it's all dressed up in Red, White, and Blue and it came rolling in under guise of the War on Drugs.

We got, in the War on Drugs, exactly what The Red Threat was supposed to be.

Exactly!

Mine were public schools.

The only thing I can remember of them is something about somebody hiding behind a tree in a park and popping out to do the heinous deed of giving me some Communist literature.

"We need to have sit-ins, smoke-ins, love-ins, peace-ins, walk-outs, shut-downs, state stopping gatherings..."

Add to that "flash" gatherings by instant messaging, email and cell phone.

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I wonder how useful it would be to emulate the organization called "Act Up?"

They were instrumental in making people hear about AIDS/HIV when no one wanted to hear ...

http://www.actupny.org/documents/CDdocuments/CDindex.html

For What Its Worth

in some respects, though, you're right. Today's teens are, by and large, happy with American society. But the differences could promote action--yours was a generation at the beginning of Pax Americana, at the opening moment of American involvement with the world. Theirs is a generation of decline and eventually something will click beyond traditional or popular "liberal" avenues. And I'm real encouraged by the number of young adults at antiwar protests--I think it's something that may not expand much, yet remains constant and tenacious.

FoM, I am going to e-mail you a very important message. It may not be there until later tonight, but it will be in your mail tonight. I look forward to meeting you just as much.

Absolutely, afterburner. I will talk to my organizers and see how we can incorporate "flash" gatherings in our area. Cool.

Toke.

I'm sorry I guess I wasn't spcefic enough. Yes I was talking about demonstrations when Political Royalty visits your fair city. Pres, VP, Pres Candidates, etc, thats when the Feds pull out all the stops.

I don't think the felony law for leaving the area has been passed yet, but is in the process. They can and will arrest if you leave a free speech zone without their permission. I don't have any recent experience with protesting, but gathered this info from the web and newspapers.

What needs to happen is, people need to lose the fear which these authoritarians have instilled in most of our society. We need to have massive SPONTANEOUS protests which really DO tie up traffic and get media attention. We need to have sit-ins, smoke-ins, love-ins, peace-ins, walk-outs, shut-downs, state stopping gatherings of, guess who? The American Workers. We have to come up with ingenious ways of stopping the operation of the state peacefully, but firmly. Do you think the people back in the seventies were not afraid when they saw the pigs coming with their billy clubs and tear gas? Those people were brave. That is what we are all going to have to do to stop the state. And I mean the STATE OF FASCISM in America.

I'll let you know if we run across any Free Speech Zones during our coming protests.

Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!

Nor should you be.

That's what the problem is in the first place...all the people getting ground up in "the machine".

Wow.

That's amazing.

I think I heard a Chihuahua barking in there.

If you got arrested in in Veitnam ere you simply paid a fine ( a few hundred dollars) and you were on your way to the next demonstration.In todays orwellian justice system, you are put on probation, attending another demonstration or any encounter with police is a violation of probation. That violation is a new crime, with enhanced penalties, etc, etc.

During Vietnam protesters could demonstrate on the public sidewalk where the politician had to see and hear them. The demonstraters were also on the evening news, so all of America saw and heard their demonstration. Today the Feds have created "FREE SPEECH ZONES". They are chain link enclosures located blocks away from the person or event you wish to protest. Protesters will not be seen or heard by anyone but themselves and the thugs guarding them.

The Feds are working on legislation to make it a felony to leave a "Free Speech Zone" without permission.

Later, in the 1950s, Harry supplied morphine--a good, fat "prescription" to Senator Joseph McCarthy. I hate him much more for the Singel Convention, though. Until then, lots of countries had not outlawed cannabis, you could go there and immerse yourself in a traditional culture and outlook.

JFK fired Anslinger the next year. Apparently he had decided to "legalize" marijuana in his second term. We never got that far. JFK may have had the right intentions, but then he didn't stop Anslinger from getting the UN to produce and endorse such a ridiculous document.

In terms of playing in a band, one has to know the conditions of the gig; the relative size of the playing area, what eqipment is necessary to haul the distance, and what is not. If we actually manage to get a/the band all the way down there, it would be real disappointing to not get to play, I'd never hear the end of it.

Without committing the total energies of a band, it's fairly easy to be more open to whatever, but when I am managing (and that's what it would be) the equilibrium of multi- sensitive people (musicians) information saves a lot of grief.

I prefer the band. I have a lot more fun, and feel a lot more 'empowered' as an artist, but as I prefer live musicians over digital substitutes, the equipment it takes to stage a performance takes up more space. I've gotten my own stage down to what I can carry in my minivan, but I still can't carry all of the band members in the same vehicle as the equipment.

On the other hand, an acoustc setup fits in the trunk of my sons Honda.

2 stages of music, herbal consultants, medical consultants, forums & speakers, comedians, massage, cannabis culture, demonstrations, contests, glass gallery, history and human rights.

Probation, urine testing. Court costs. Social stigma.

They can't make money off you when you're dead. If they think they can't make money off you at all, or it costs to much to allow you to continue to exist - accidents happen quite often.

The question is whether we are being policed by 'people' or by 'professionals.'

During VietNam they used the military as buffers to the protests, and a lot of those military were guys like me, who listened to the same music, in a lot of cases smoked pot together with the long hairs, and were of the same generation. VietNam was all about our generation. The military was as likely to switch sides as not.

Times have changed. Our domestic police force is better armed, better armored, and better trained, than the Armed Forces combat units currently in Iraq.

In such a confrontation, any violence could easily be later justified as 'provocation.'

Near the end of my stay, a group of local sheriffs patrolled the gathering. As they were walking by, amidst the warning cries of "six-up" (which was our code this year for preparing folks for their presence) a group of folks called out, "We LO-OVE you!"

Amazingly, the small group of cops called back. "We love you too!"

This is our future unless we stand up in peace and firmness.

They had a small army capable (by their own reckoning) of subduing a population of up to 50,000 basicly un-armed citizens.

It's about reality, and deciding when enough is enough.

No one was shot because only one side had guns - and it was being videotaped. This was happening while I was debating even going or not. I believe that when those horses had to backup, along with the rest of the cops, a victory for the rainbow was won. Unfortunately that kind of solidarity of faith and belief (not ritual or religion) does not happen often in other places.

There naturally would be an iffy lineage. An American Mustang could carry Arabian blood. Anything that escaped or wound up abandoned for one reason or another and left to breed in the wild with other horses in the same situation.

Obviously some good, hearty, fast...want to win blood.

...let's hope it doesn't turn out that way.

Videos on YouTube.com

That is a toxic substance which his UN gives me to breathe.

Those cars they support kill 42,00 people a year USA..

get a clu and get my life back./

someone wrote a book but i dont know anymore than that.

for a body of world leaders to sign a peice of paper saying that no human can have Cannabis anywhere on this earth is a disgrace to the human race. it is to go against every society that has been helped by this great plant.

oil is at 77 bucks------- here on Sept 20and 21 in Lansing a big Bio-fuel show will take place. These shows are being held all over the country. Cannabis will help in making ethanol now.

in this troubled world

like you and me

who enjoy this creation, or world as some say,

gather and proclaim your place, your politics,

your food and water

your religion, do you have a soul?

The One who has given his life

Liberty and Understanding

Died on that merciless hot day, on that disgusting cross,

To give light to our frightened souls

do you feel trapped

has big government become in your peaceful soul?

We all will pass into the unknown

those portals of unforgiving

have ' W e those people an understanding?

terms and complex and so complete

you gettin there

he is a child like you and me,

who try to find that path,

towards a good understanding,

There is so much more

In our green filled world,

My problem with this: sovereign governments are responsible to the values and the wishes of the people who elected or entrusted them with the governance of the country. The UN should have no right to tell ANY government what they can and cannot do: it's absurd. Basically Anslinger got this Singel treaty document to the floor of the UN, and it was his personal mission to legislate marijuana as illegal forever, for everyone. That's his contribution, and none of the "representatives" at that august 1961 meeting dared to challenge him. It can never come up for a vote again since the "permanent" members on the UN Security Council--the US, Russia, China--are all strongly prohibitionist and maintain veto power.

So in some form or other, all advocates and constituencies favoring legalization fight against men like Mr. Costa. the countries of the EU have come a long way, but I know they would go a lot further if the UN wasn't cracking it's whip in anger against them. But the issue isn't Mr. Costa, it's this standard of "world government" which is meaningless except in upholding prohibition. In the US, Canada, Mexico, and Latin America, this treaty prevents, time after time, meaningful and just social policy changes. If the US Government isn't willing to legalize pot, it isn't just the building of the police state. It's that men such as our Presidents feel they have to take this treaty seriously.

But it's ridiculous. Where, indeed, does the UN represent the concerns of ordinary citizens in "free" countries? What voice do we have in the legislations they pass? Who are the people that "represent" us at this body? I can tell you, they are not people who have even had to campaign for our votes, who even superficially profess interest and concern for our daily lives. They are all appointees, divorced forever from public society.

It must end. And all indications are that a lot of Europeans feel this way; they may, at some point, withdraw from the Singel Convention. We should, too. Yet it is more than that. The issue is accountability; nothing in the UN is accountable, yet this issue is referred indefinitely to the UN's "international treaties". More importantly, there is no basis for retaining prohibition; Mr. Costa knows it. Marijuana was outlawed forty-five years ago at this convention mostly because almost nothing was known about it by Americans, that knowledge about properties and effects were explained at that time by "beatniks" such as William Burroughs.

A few years ago, a UNODC representative was asked why cannabis remained illegal. He replied, "we already have alcohol and tobacco legal, and cannot add to the list of legal drugs." Unbelievable as it sounds, it is true. For many peoples of the world--not minorities, whole societies--cannabis has been a traditional sacrament. Basically the rep's dictum was, it's ok for Muslims for whom scripture has forbidden alcohol to drink alcohol, and governments may comply, but it's not ok for cannabis, which has been in the Islamic tradition for millennia, to be allowed. These are absurd distortions of the idea of covenant.

Quit Singel Convention. End the War on Cannabis.

"They should all go hunting with Dick Cheney."

If Lieberman loses this primary it could signal the beginning of the end of the PNAC agenda, on which the neo-cons have bet all of their marbles. It seems that the only thing that can salvage their sinister stranglehold is another "terror attack".

Conn. Race Could Be Democratic Watershed: Loss by Lieberman May Embolden Critics of War: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/05/AR2006080500963.html

It isn't cowardice that keeps us from striking back violently. It is committment to what we believe in. We believe in the good things in life. We resist the bad.

How long do you think it would take the Feds to round up enough of us "Jews" to convince the others to give up? We barely have a voice now, with millions on millions of us fighting.

Violence would end even that small voice. Which, by the way, is much louder than it was ten years ago.

We must love our enemies to forgive them. We must listen to encourage them on their own journeys of self-discovery and merging with others into oneness. The planet Earth, or "Spaceship Earth," has a shell too, according to Buckminster Fuller. Inside the shell is the petroleum and other fossil fuels that have been used to develop our technology. As enlightened seekers peck through the shell of industrial society, they discover the future realities of renewable energy, ecology, co-operation, spiritual growth and outer/inner space exploration.

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Rosetta stone (legend), courtesy of Dr. Leary:

sHe = he or she

Why? Is there some moral right in locking first-timers up with murderers and rapists? Is it natural for human beings in desperately poor countries to give full allegiance and trust to obviously corrupt heads of state rather than to family, to tradition, to friends? What irks me most is that Mr.Costa, unlike even Mr. Bush, doesn't appear to have thought out what he is trying to say: he has no accountability for world social policy, and the document is an unmistakable fakehood. People today are so stupid--they ignore the very clear and obvious fact that for Third World countries, much more so than for us (though it is an issue for us)--this is a cornerstone issue of human rights and justice. And apparently the UN is bent on giving the blank check for injustices in countries where people do not have all the things we have.

But then, the UN's record on human rights was always dismal, their punitive ability to stop injustices always incredibly pale and weak. Yet we in the most prosperous countries still have to bow our heads to this stupid man's "international treaties," when in reality we--and they--could do just fine without his paternalizing help.

Quit UN. Simple.

With the price of cannabis at 250 dollars per ounce, the market is booming.. Sixteen times two hundred fifty equals 4000 dollars per pound.

Ten billion divided by four thousand equals 2.5 million pounds of cannabis bought and sold each year in the US.

That's 1.25 thousand tons of cannabis each year that is available for smoking on a daily basis.

That's 100 hundred semi-truck trailer loads with 25,000 pounds of cannabis in each one.

The cannabis market is doing fine.

Mr. Costa worries too much. He should smoke a joint, get some sleep, and find something else to think about.

Like legalizing cannabis. That would be a good start.

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I think Doctor Copper and I'm proud

I'm part of a fundamental crowd

And if you look around these days

There seems to be a Dr. Copper craze

I'm a Copper, he's a Copper, she's a Copper

Wouldn't you like to be a Doctor, too?

Be a Doctor, think like a Copper

Be a Copper, think like a Doctor

That's all I needed to read to know that Antonio Maria Costa has zero credibility.

The United Nations isn't uniting anything, it is dividing this world! The U.N. is a criminal organization which seeks to destroy the sovereignty of all nations.

http://www.ramdasstapes.org/article%20the%20issue%20by%20alan%20davidson.htm

....(Dr. Timothy) Leary began conducting experiments with psilocybin in 1960 on himself and a number of Harvard graduate students after trying hallucinogenic mushrooms used in Native American religious rituals while visiting Mexico. His group began conducting experiments on state prisoners, where they claimed a 90% success rate preventing repeat offenses....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_LSD

....The use of peyote in a structured religious setting, with the guidance of a socially sanctioned healer, has been reported by some authors to be a powerful treatment for alcoholism among Native Americans and a way of bringing balance back into the lives of its participants.

Unfortunately, to date there have not been any controlled studies of the use of peyote in this setting to treat alcoholism or other addiction disorders. Most of the literature has consisted of anecdotal accounts of its effectiveness (Albaugh & Anderson,1974; Bergman, 1971; Pascarosa, & Futterman, 1976; Pascarosa, Futterman & Halsweig, 1976). The closest research that has been done in this area is with LSD back in the 50s and 60s. Virtually all double-blind controlled studies that have been done with LSD in the treatment of alcoholism have met mixed reviews by the scientific community. There has been short term or "afterglow" improvement in patients which diminishes with time (Halpern, 1996). It is important to note that most of these studies only measured drug effect with no appropriate clinical direction and support. (Smart & Strom, 1964; Hollister et al., 1969; Ludwig et al., 1969; Mottin, 1973).

The Native American Church, on the other hand, offers a combination of elements that used in conjunction with one another, form the basis of a holistic treatment model that takes the entire individual into account. Peyote is seen as a medicine by the native peoples who use it. They believe that the controlled religious use of this medicine will allow them to see the truth about their lives and that the peyote spirit is able to give them guidance and direction....

Could be?

Would be?

Prison would be a last resort?

I'm not sure what kind of dream-world Costa lives in, but here on planet earth where the prohibitionist USA is world-hegemon, jailing cannabis users is a growth industry for government at all levels.

Prison would be a last resort? Here in reality, the sole the purpose of government is to railroad pot smokers into jail, fining them, enslaving them, and brainwashing them. At one time, government was for other things, but these days, every part of government is preverted to the end of jailing the marijuana smoker and punishing him in every way possible for his disobedience.

I don't know if Cannabis could eliminate all those negative things but it might help. As far as the other substances I really don't know.