If a drug makes people love people couldn't there be dangers in that? People can become infatuated with another person and that isn't love. Look at Paul McCartney and his separation from his second wife. I doubt that Paul was under the influence of MDMA when he " fell in love " but isn't there a risk to this substance becaus it might not be true love just chemically induced feelings?

May 17, 2006 (LONDON) - Former Beatle Paul McCartney and his second wife, Heather Mills McCartney, said Wednesday that they are separating after nearly four years of marriage, blaming intrusion from the media and insisting their split is amicable.

Rumors of a rift between Mills McCartney and the singer's children -- especially Stella McCartney -- have circulated for years. Talk centered around the idea that Mills McCartney -- who is nearly half his age -- wanted to devote more time to campaigning against land mines and fur.

I sure agree with that. Similarly, in my opinion (not shared by innumerable ravers) it also shouldn't be taken in a huge room with tons of people who don't know you and whom you don't know, without enough water and hot temperatures and overexerting yourself dancing.

This is just my opinion again, but I believe the MDMA experience is at its very best thusly: with a lover or spouse, just the two of you, with appropriate mystical mellow music picked out, candles lit, phones turned off, privacy assured, light food like fruit or soup set up for later... notes for issues/intentions of personal work, if any, made and set aside nearby for reference. Everybody thinks their way is best I suppose. But I'm especially convinced about this. The loving energy, clarity and wisdom you possess on it is naturally made for the private conditions I describe... it seems to me wasted, scattered, turned into a mere "drug experience" in a room full of strangers (although they won't seem like strangers and you'll end up making out with six or seven of them).

Done privately and with intention, it is a truly spiritual experience. But I accept that some peoples idea of a spiritual experience is jumping around to really loud music and hugging strangers. I respect that.

I'm somehow failing to convey my level of knowledge to you. :) You've got me reading back over what I wrote to see if I'm somehow coming off like an enthusiastic neophyte.

At the time I was well aware of who had made it and his qualifications, and the purity. I was blessed. We're talking absolute purity. Analyzed on GC/mass spec (passed with flying colors).

"Would it really be appropriate for a person near death who is very anxious and perhaps having breathing discomfort?"

I wouldn't really hesitate, if it was an option. It would be at least a moment of perfect grace for someone. If I seem to focus on the risks and possible negatives for some people, let me also say that they are very, very rare. Of tens of millions of people who have taken MDMA there are probably fewer than ten (not ten million, not ten thousand, but ten) who have died. That's a lot worse than Cannabis, where the number is zero, but it's pretty safe compared to, say, Aspirin. Or almost anything.

Now I've known enough people who have had experiences of MDMA that I can honestly say that some of them have had problems with it -- specifically, people who had access to huge amounts and took it regularly, once or more times per day. That isn't very good. And that's why it's not the perfect drug. Cannabis you can literally take for pain every day, several times per day, it doesn't matter, it doesn't become ineffective, and there's no cracked out withdrawal. If someone needs to take something on a regular basis, Cannabis wins over MDMA every time.

We're just trying to figure out what the truth really is.

It's really hard to trust anything told to us by the known and proven liars calling themselves OUR government.

I do grieve for the lives lost, both on 9/11 and every day since because of our retaliation and vengeance.

I think we owe them the truth.

It seems highly unlikely that the 757 could have completely penetrated such a highly reinforced building without flattening out and leaving a massive hole in it's path.

Why have all of the videos besides the ones already leaked and published been confiscated by the FBI and hidden from public view?

Secrecy by our elected and un-elected officials lends itself to speculation and conspiracy theories, so the blame goes to the powers that be.

I very carefully watched the second video frame by frame. At time 27 seconds you can see the plane for one frame. The fusilage appears to be about 2 stories high - about 24-30 feet high. The single frame makes sense, given the speed the plane would have been going.

There's one car I think might be the one you mean . It drives out of the parking lot at 1:26 and drives in a bit until 1:35 and then out to the right and exits the field of view at 1:42. It is still close to the camera at the time it exits the field of view. The parking lot is near the corner of the building ( you can tell by counting windows). The part that sticks out is the middle. The plane hits smack int he middle. It would have taken it over 1/4 minute to drive the distance to the crash site even if it could have maintained 30 mph on the grass, and I think it actually wnet much slower. I don't think you could see a car as more than a dot at the point of collision. You can't even make out the upper story windows above the trees windows at the point of impact.

The car is clearly visible and only a bit smaller than the "plane."

How do you do young willie mcbride, Do you mind if I sit here down by your graveside, And rest for a while ’neath the warm summer sun, I’ve been walking all day and I’m nearly done I see by your gravestone you were only 19 When you joined the great fall-in in 1916 I hope you died well and I hope you died clean Or young willie mcbride was it slow and obscene.

Did they beat the drum slowly did they play the fife lowly Did they sound the death march as they lowered you down Did the band play the last post and chorus Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Did you leave a wife or a sweetheart behind In some faithful heart is your memory enshrined Although you died back in 1916 In that faithful heart are you forever 19 Or are you a stranger without even a name Enclosed then forever behind a glass frame In an old photograph torn, battered and stained And faded to yellow in a brown leather frame.

Did they beat the drum slowly did they play the fife lowly Did they sound the death march as they lowered you down Did the band play the last post and chorus Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

The sun now it shines on the green fields of france There’s a warm summer breeze makes the red poppies dance And look how the sun shines from under the clouds There’s no gas, no barbwire, there’s no guns firing now But here in this graveyard it’s still no man’s land The countless white crosses stand mute in the sand To man’s blind indifference to his fellow man To a whole generation that were butchered and damned.

Did they beat the drum slowly did they play the fife lowly Did they sound the death march as they lowered you down Did the band play the last post and chorus Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Now young willie mcbride I can’t help wonder why Do those who lie here know why did they die Did they believe when they answered the call Did they really believe that this war would end wars Well the sorrow, the suffering, the glory, the pain The killing and the dying were all done in vain For young willie mcbride it all happened again, And again and again and again and again

I'm not talking about the car that appears very close to the camera.

I'm talking about the car (probably the same one captured close up) that responds AFTER the explosion, which you can see drive through the grounds to almost the exact same spot where the "plane" went through. It travels to the point of impact and then turns right, basically backtracking the trajectory of the "plane."

It's at this point that we have some known object at the same spot and distance from the camera to use as a reference to ascertain an approximate idea of the size of the object that hit the pentagon.

I'm not saying it wasn't a plane, I'm just saying that based on the size comparison with the car, there was no way it could have been a 757.

As small as the "plane" looked, the car would have been so small as to be almost unrecognizable.

Watch the complete 2nd video as posted at http://www.judicialwatch.org/ and make sure you watch it until the end.

That saved a wretch like me!

I once was lost, but now am found

Was blind, but now I see.

'Twas Grace that taught my heart to fear,

And Grace my fears relieved.

How precious did that Grace appear

The hour I first believed.

Through many dangers, toils, and snares

I have already come.

'Tis Grace hath brought me safe thus far

And Grace will lead me home.

The Lord has promised good to me.

His Word my hope secures.

He will my shield and portion be

As long as life endures.

When we've been there ten thousand years

Bright shining as the sun,

We've no less days to sing God's praise

and they would shape the world into their finite image

of the all consuming beast

for a brief moment of intense pleasure

had at the expense of all else.

Begone harbingers of destruction!

Your feigned brightness

is only a dim reflection of the true light

Exo 32:16 The tablets were the work of God, and the writing was God's writing, engraved on the tablets.

Exo 32:17 When Joshua heard the sound of the people as they shouted, he said to Moses, "There is a sound of war in the camp."

Exo 32:18 But Moses replied: It's not the sound of a victory cry and not the sound of a cry of defeat; I hear the sound of singing!

Exo 32:19 As he approached the camp and saw the calf and the dancing, Moses became enraged and threw the tablets out of his hands, smashing them at the base of the mountain.

Exo 32:20 Then he took the calf they had made, burned it up, and ground it to powder. He scattered the powder over the surface of the water and forced the Israelites to drink the water.

Exo 32:21 Then Moses asked Aaron, "What did this people do to you that you have led them into such a grave sin?"

Exo 32:22 "Don't be enraged, my lord," Aaron replied. "You yourself know that the people are intent on evil.

Exo 32:23 They said to me, 'Make us a god who will go before us because this Moses, the man who brought us up from the land of Egypt--we don't know what has happened to him!'

Exo 32:24 So I said to them, 'Whoever has gold, take it off,' and they gave it to me. When I threw it into the fire, out came this calf!"

Exo 32:25 Moses saw that the people were out of control, for Aaron had let them get out of control, so that they would be vulnerable to their enemies.

Exo 32:26 And Moses stood at the camp's entrance and said, "Whoever is for the LORD, come to me." And all the Levites gathered around him.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0429-11.htm

How they pulled it off and left witneses who say they saw a big passenger jet hit it, I don't know, but their evil genius worked and that's what we have. Yet the video does not support their story, nor do the photographs that came right afterward.

Perhaps this was the actions of the last brave and true Americans, who sent a message into the belly of the "beast"

re: comment 105

There is a sense of urgency, that can wait, for the next chapter, as 'we all struggle to understand our world.

It is better to eliminate the false premises and propaganda, from some place deep in your inner mind and soul, be assured, that Life and Death are gifts that have come from the most mysterious place, the bosom of God, sustains and nourishes every living, corporeal experience, and it this mysterious process that is awakening, twinkle, to the power of the gentle hand.

It was hard to judge size and distance until the moment that the car drove over in the same area where the "object" had momentarily appeared, but there is NO WAY that could have been a 757. Even a smaller commercial jet will dwarf a large truck, let alone a passenger car.

I've also NEVER flown on a commercial flight with a pilot as skilled as what I saw, never touching the ground before impact.

I flew out of Springfield on Northwest Airlines, and we were delayed because the well-trained pilot had gone about 5 feet too far when he taxied up to the terminal, and we sat there for over an hour as they tried to figure out how to fix his stupid mistake (and he was only going less than a mile per hour in speed.)

The jets that hit the World Trade Center towers were HUGE and easily seen as they impacted, but I didn't even begin to see anything like that hitting the pentagon.

Oh, my!

There are some frightening (when it is hidden) and monstrous revelations in the wings.

They Don't Need Love

All around the world, it's times of trouble

and you tell me you don't care if they break your mind,

as long as the pay is good.

When you turn on the light, there won't be much left to see.

In the middle of night they took away your freedom,

and you knew they would like a warning from the Book of Love

you knew they could; death-metal-angels in the skies above,

now it's too late, you better hurry just to save your love,

'cause they don't need love, they don't need love.

Everywhere you look it's the same old tale;

signs enough to see, but who's got time to look

in service to the dollar bill?

When you open your eyes, you won't like what you see

if you swallowed their lies and promised you would keep them

and you knew they would, like a story from the olden days

you knew they could, they've had time to learn some special ways.

The time has come, gotta run to catch the mornings rays,

'cause they don't need love.

They need electric trains, and aeroplanes, ...radio,

and television.

Nuclear power, and binary reason,

digital process...they got it on the brain..

And you knew they would,

like a warnin' from the Book of Love.

You knew they could, death-metal angels in the skies above,

now it's too late, you better hurry just to save your love,

cause they don't need love. They don't need love.

My sense of urgency at one point was so extreme, I had to treat it as some kind of obsession. The facts and visions that made it real and valid however, did not go away, they just multiplied and became more present and real.

As the millennium approached, I could tell you of every prophecy known to man (as well as my own visionary experiences) that pointed to this relative era (not specificly 2000) as the most important crux of time, in the entire history of our planet. I could point out the logic of the numbers with alacrity and conviction. However as many people began for the first time in my life to converse about these things (that I had been shunned, ridiculed, and socially despised for, for about 35 years) the sense of urgency left me, and the nature of the obsession became clear to me.

For me it was my slightly errant belief that just by giving warning that somehow these things could be averted. I say slightly errant, because I still believe that we have options up to the point that it all shuts down, but I had a life too that was being missed because of the obsessive part of my 'sense of urgency'.

As the millennium turned, I actually had almost an entire year free of the 'responsibility to save the world' or that 'sense of urgency' before the demons in power pulled off 9/11.

The irony is that after decades of being ignored, the truths I had been trying to communicate were suddenly appropriate topics of conversation. But I had moved on. I realized that though the knowledge of the 'problem' was very important, much more important was applying solution.

I remain free of the urgency, and the attending obsessiveness, and though I have NO...0% doubt about where we are in time, I also realize that there are many layers of human consiousness, many levels of awareness. One cannot realisticly expect the entire human race to embrace a concept just because it is true, I have found DENIAL to be a regular companion to a lot of people's daily routine. Particularly in America.

The truth is, our civilization is nearing it's end. 10 years, 20 years, who can say? Maybe within the next 2 years if Bush has his way. Only some parts of it are even worth considering as savable, the rest is pure dross that has to be shaken off some way. Since we haven't collectively manifested enough presence of sanity and common sense, but replaced it with the machinations and propganda of a corrupt (since ancient times) system our options are severely limited.

The urgency for me has passed, because the warnings are all now too late. There is not enough time to save all but a remnant. A remnant of man, and a remnant of civilization. This is why as a mystical artist, I do not despair that my audiences come in twos and threes, instead of thousands. Those handfuls recieve my gift, and that's all that matters.

Those who are watching will see enlightenment rising during this time, just as we see the ancient folly of Property, Pride, and Power come to a very miserable end.

The end is imminent, and I believe all of man is percieving this in some way. Those who have the luxury of full bellies and comfortable beds will have disturbing dreams, and those who are (for whatever reason) just now coming into the understandings of the situation are going to be filled with a sense of urgency, because that will cause them to spread the 'word.'

The only advice I can give is also given in Revelations, and in Daniels prophecy;

"When you see the abomination standing in the Holy place, do not stop to gather belongings, or question,....run for the hills." (paraphrased)

Faith and belief is the ONLY SOLUTION available. If you do not have it, I'd advise a crash course, because that is a true urgency for all who would like a shot at surviving this coming upheaval.

The cities are 'dead men walking'. Just consider the facts and reality, as well as prophecy, you will see that the cities are all doomed. Just 'living in the country' is not enough either, but at least you get a head start towards the hills.

*sigh*

It's not like there's anything on your mind or bothering you... or the rest of us.

Don't have to explore our subconcious too deeply to find the possible reasons for disturbing dreams these days.

Kill and arrest and persecute people over plants? Deny people common relief and natural medicine? Cruel governments?

Everyone should be dreaming disturbing dreams.

always on for learning a new thing ...

I've cut way back on my favorite med, lately.

I am having some interesting dreams too, lately ...

time for some lunch, as I missed breakfast ...

I gave a copy of LWW to a friend yesterday ...

I'm usually in the sack ... and in fact was this morning when awakened by a bodily process ...

Neil sang about "the garden" at least once before ...though Joni Mitchell wrote the song ...

Woodstock

Well I came across a child of God, he was walking along the road

and I asked him tell where are you going, this he told me:

Well, I’m going down to Yasgur's farm, going to join in a rock and roll band.

Got to get back to the land, set my soul free.

We are stardust, we are golden, we are billion year old carbon,

and we got to get ourselves back to the garden.

Well, then can I walk beside you? I have come to lose the smog.

And I feel like I'm a cog in something turning. And maybe it's the time of year, yes, and maybe it's the time of man.

And I don't know who I am but life is for learning. We are stardust, we are golden, we are billion year old carbon,

and we got to get ourselves back to the garden.

By the time we got to Woodstock, we were half a million strong,

and everywhere there was song and celebration. And I dreamed I saw the bombers jet planes riding shotgun in the sky,

turning into butterflies above our nation.

We are stardust, we are golden, we caught in the devil’s bargain,

and we got to get ourselves back to the garden.

I think of Esequial Hernandaz.

Brilliant thread. So much information. I love you people.

Linda. :0)

I'm glad there is a light in that prison. I'm selfish, though. I want my old friend out of that place and safe with his beloved wife.

After the garden is gone

What will people know?

Control *is* the issue. All technology can be used to free humans from their drudgery or to enslave them with new chains. Those who trust their fellow humans and follow the way of love that Jesus taught us, use technology to free the human spirit. Those who still don't get his message and example follow the curse of the law or some other punitive system that distrusts their fellow humans.

Love God, love thy neighbor as thyself ... or ... punish, bomb, snoop, snitch, arrest, terrorize, exterminate plants.

This world we live in, the western part anyway, could arguably have proceeded from the "garden of eden."

The use of psychedelics can easily be described as an inner search for meaning, (religion?), that will be unneeded when we shed the trappings of modern religion.

Here is one take on that ...

http://alternet.org/story/36195/

As to the "25" opinions, apparently there are many myths and rumors still abounding concerning it. Already I think some boundaries of jurisprudence on the part of those of us who 'were there' have been inadvertantly crossed, and to continue to peel off more layers of the "lsd onion" in terms of attempting to define it's purity as lsd25 in contrast to the numerous variations and mixes that were more commonly found 'on the street' is perhaps left to less public discussion.

I know that the number "25" has another significance in terms of the original number of successful recipes in Osley's factory culminating in what was considered the 'final' and purest form. What it would take to validate this claim requires revealing secrets that are not my place to reveal.

I will say however that 25 micrograms of pure lsd25 is not only a 'small' dose, but an insignificant and ineffective amount for anyone with a body weight of more than 25 pounds, which basicly means a 'minimum effective' dose of pure lsd of roughly 1 microgram per pound of body mass.

In the early days, with the sunshine, purple haze, the doses were varied but usually much more than was actually necessary. By the late 70's it had been worked out, and the common 'hit' of real (or close to real) lsd was about 250 mics.

This is all superfluos however, because I believe what is at issue in this thread, is the value of the experience, and the fact that that experience has also been circumvented by the powers and principalities for no other reason than greed, profit, and power. They greatly fear that their carefully conditioned slaves might shake off the programming of many millennia and rise up to seize their natural, inherent, and rightful sovereignty and authority, thereby leaving no place for the parasites that live off our backs. Quite afeared are they at this point.

I also have learned a great deal myself from the practice of yoga and tai chi as well earlier in my life. During 20 plus years of intensive computer programming and parenting, I had to put my meditative practices on hold. More and more during the last few years I have been yearning to re-establish my meditative studies and perhaps to teach them eventually.

I find it interesting that Jerry was sent to Massachusetts, that Lyle Craker who petitioned the DEA to allow him to grow clinical grade cannabis for research is located in Massachusetts, that Timothy Leary did LSD experiments while teaching in Massachusetts, that citizens in many areas of Massachusetts have supported medical cannabis overwhelmingly in non-binding initiatives. The wheel of life seems to be turning back around to take a second look at entheogens and spirituality. I once taught in Massachusetts in a secular assignment having nothing to do with entheogens or spirituality, but it gave me a taste of the culture of Massachusetts.

After The Garden - NY

***

Wont need no sunshine

Won't need no purple haze

After the garden is gone

25 micrograms ...

a very small amount ... required to "get off."

Orange Sunshine was very good, so were virtually all of the microdots ...

Some particularly pure window-pane surfaced right before a Led Zepplin concert in Macon, GA in 1970 ...

A friend of a friend in Army Basic Training, circa May 1971, brought back from his Leave, vacation, a sheet of paper with 100 blue dots on it. They were pretty good, too.

Wickepedia says that prosecutors debunked chemist's claims by showing that ALD-52 was made FROM LSD-25, which quickly morphed back into LSD-25 so their differences beggar explanation.

any how ... those were the days .....

Jerry and Linda: http://www.terryhubbard.com/J/

A drug is addictive when the person stops taking the drug after steady use for a time and they become very sick and can die during an intense few days of withdrawal. Narcotics legal and illegal, tranquilizers, barbituates and alcohol fit that classification.

Amphetamine based drugs act this way.

I wanted to share with you this story, as I feel you will appreciate it. 13 years ago, before I knew Jerry, I went to the Siddha Yoga Meditation Center for the first time wanting to learn how to meditate and after the program I saw some literature on an information table about something called the Prison Project, Freedom On The Inside. I was immediately drawn to it, it jumped into my heart. I picked up the literature, took it home and read what it was about. It's about teaching inmates, through the teachings and practice of yoga philosophy how to access their true freedom, their inner connection to the Infinite. I loved this idea and thought what a great service for people who have lost or given up their physical freedom. As a yoga teacher now I learned everything I know about yoga from the Guru Gurumayi, the ashram, the Siddha Yoga Meditation Center. Gurumayi told the yogis to teach, the world needs more teachers. Well, Jerry/RunRuff and I met in my yoga class 5 1/2 years ago. He was a student. His first day in my class, in any yoga class, there he sat on the floor, front row and center with his legs outstretched leaning back on his hands, with an amused grin. I knew right then he was different, every other beginner student I've had hides in the darkest back corner of the room. Jerry really took to yoga, he came to every class and loved it and said he wanted to teach someday, and that we would be teaching together. I thought he was a little nuts for saying that, as we had just met weeks prior.

So here we are in life at this point, 5 1/2 years later. Jerry is in prison. I am home. Two weeks into his sentence I signed Jerry up for the Prison Project study course, so he now receives two lessons a month on the teachings and philosophy of yoga. His reading it has sparked interest in other inmates and they are now requesting it.

The definition I am using for the term withdrawal is the syndrome of seizures, shakes, delerium tremens (in the case of alcohol as another example), and things like that when the drug is suddenly not taken after regular habituation is established.

Maybe we are using the word differently. Even potato chips are "potentially addictive" for someone who leans that way.

I also would point out that I define "addictive" as a drug that will create physical habituation after a fairly small number of regular uses. Opiates are most famous for this, obviously. Alcohol sort of does it too (and packs a serious withdrawal cycle) and to a small degree, even caffeine as well. In other words, it makes you feel shitty physically ("sick") if you don't do some after you've been doing it a little while.

But to me, the most insulting aspect of these drugs is that someone else is controlling me and this country is supposed to be free. I'm trusted with operating a 2-ton motor vehicle that barrels down the highway at 80 miles an hour with children all around in passing cars. 45,000 people per year are killed this way. Yet I can't sit in my yard and take a hit of LSD. It's the hypocrisy that drives me crazy.

Some doctor can hand out Paxil like it's candy, yet YOU can't choose to eat mushrooms or take LSD. 100 years ago I could take whatever I damn well pleased. Today's system is supposed to more advanced? This is progress? Treating people as if they're so dumb they can't even decide what to put in their body? I would've thought utopia would have smart people that didn't need someone else telling them how to live.

No, I think we're moving backwards. People are getting dumber and less healthy every year. We've got a bunch of nice computers & flat-screen TVs, but we're in worse shape every year.

97 seconds in B&W: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX7m4fqTLKU

First, I don't agree with Max that MDMA is non-addictive. It is potentially addictive. It has physical tolerance and withdrawal. Those who use it to excess find it loses the "magical" effect and becomes largely indistinguishable from speed. MDMA is a methamphetamine at least in part, and it has similar potentials. That is not to say it is merely speed. MDMA is a true empathogen.

Most experienced people will say that it should not be used more often than once in six months. Few actually seem to hold to that constraint, and frequently it is found that one is using it too often and must stop completely, for at least a few years.

MDMA increases mental and emotional aptitudes and removes barriers to conversation and thoughts that otherwise are too painful. It is a painkiller, both physically and emotionally and spiritually. But this painkilling effect is short in duration, a few hours. It cannot be taken for this purpose on an ongoing basis.

It is possible to overdose MDMA. Even apart from the street adulterants which others have mentioned, it is not an entirely harmless molecule. There is scant evidence that it causes toxicity in most people at ordinary doses. Some people may have problems metabolizing it and may be at greater health risk.

Also, I believe Kesey and Leary's approaches were a mistake. You cannot shock society into acceptance of an activity that only insiders can understand. It was obvious to many that what they were doing was going to lead to a prohibition. Their research and writing was interesting and relevant, but their political aptitude was severely lacking, and we are STILL paying the price for it 40 years later in the realm of psychedelics. Leary also had the Marihuana Tax Act overturned just in time for marijuana to be included in the brand new Controlled Substances Act - which his very actions were forcing in the eyes of conservative society. Double whammy.

That's the way it was suppose to be. A reality anchor as you put it was a necessary part of having a safe and constructive trip. My friend told me that was always done during her times of experimenting with LSD.

Never trip alone and always have someone not partaking to bring you back if you start having a bad trip.

Shortly after it became illegal, cia instigators (present in almost every event of any potential impact) infiltrated and created (similar to the meth-culture they have created) 'street chemists' who made various forms of 'acid' known to contain anything from strychnine to some kind of laced amphetamine. They successfully contaminated the mainstream with bad bad stuff.

Then there were the 'cosmic trippers' the 'psychedelic pranksters' whose intent was always about 'fun.'

For several years, on into the early eighties, many of us in the 'underground counterculture' had a few codes by which proper 'psychedelic etiquette' (righteous behavior) was observed.

A somewhat 'universal psychedelic prime directive' was created in the form of what was known as "The Electric Kool Aid Acid Test." Kind of like the 'Gom Jabbar' in DUNE; Are you human or not?

If you see your brother/sister floundering in chaos and confusion, are you going laugh at their condition, or make an attempt to help them out? That's the acid test.

I have to say I witnessed many many failures of that test.

We used to have what we called "ground control" which was one or two "experienced" brothers/sisters not partaking-like a designated driver kind of. They provided the 'reality anchor' so that no one got lost on the journey.

Those codes were pretty much lost except in some very special places and times, and the 'cosmic mind f---ers' kind of took over, just like some kind of demons have taken over the world.

LSD was used by the government in an attempt to 'create a better soldier' (see the movie Jacobs Ladder).

It was used to simulate a controlled state of insanity for the various puppets made of many mentally ill people. They have attepmted to use it as a 'brainwashing' tool. I know of at least one assasin who demonstrates this fact.

They have suceeded in implanting agent provocateurs that support and bankroll the disruptive elements that inhabit all the known sanctuaries, and contaminated the experience for so many. I question whether it is even possible to have such an experience truly, and safely these days.

She wrote me letters and told me about how they had controlled trips on LSD. It was legal and she described this one scene that I will never forget. Mind you this was under the guidance of a trained professional and they took classes to prepare for the experience so it would be right. She decided to lay down under a glass top table and stared at it and it melted in front of her eyes. She said it was the most unbelievable experience.

Progressive, straight right into some rotting Progressive prison,

yeah right

so far from the left,

and so far what is happening,

here in river city,

"This marvel of LSD

Has only brought us,

Dead seeds and a deeper control"

There is a slight error in the 'only.'

The vision and imagination that percieved the DNA, for example, provided the substance for the vulture-like entrepeneur to take to the market, but in itself was not the cause of the action taken, incorrect or otherwise.

The fact that the discovery of the semi-conducting properties of silicon (which I beleive also have something to do with an incident in Roswell N.M. in 1947) has led to 'deeper control' via the enhanced record keeping and surveilance technologies of the digital age, does not change the fact that it's very state of copying the workings of the human mind/brain has given much insight into the human mind/brain.

For example; myself. I was a victim of irradiated cows milk (a little known or spoken about side effect of nuclear testing in the 40's and 50's) and have had an underactive thyroid gland, which when I approached puberty became pretty apparent. Though my mind was fine, my brain wasn't.

At the age of 17, having not started puberty yet, there was a stark contrast between my abilities to say take and ace any test, and my inability to answer simple questions in a verbal interaction, my parents figured something wasn't quite right.

While the doctor was explaining to my mother (in the other room) that I had an extreme thyroid deficiency, one that could very easily have resulted in 'mental retardation' he also explained to her the actual condition of my neural system. I understood that the ganglia of the neurons were too far apart, and it literally took more energy to span the gap and complete the sequences of neuron firings, which constitute the summoning of information from the storage areas of the brain. When taking tests, I felt no pressure, no threat, but when having to deal in a social way, my brain would literally shut down. Everyone assumed I was retarded.

I was medicated, but it wasn't working fast enough for me, so I took matters in to my own hands during my 17th summer, and tripled my dosage of thyroid-because I had a lot of catching up to do. I lost over 40 pounds, grew about 3 1/2 inches, more than 4 years of puberty in one summer.

The next thing you know I was in the Navy. They stopped giving me thyroid, for reasons which get really really sticky-having to do with our governments various covert programs.

My mind had had no time to deal. After escaping the military, I tried college. I saw so many around me walking around with a particular smile on their face, that I had to investigate.

One night I was at an underground party, a lot of 'differently strange' people, someone handed me a book. It was called 'Neurologic' and it was written by Timothy Leary.

To summerize; Tim claimed that by the proper directed use of LSD one could reprogram their own neural net!

Since I understood this to be a singular weakness of my own mind and being, within a week I would put Tims theory to the test.

The result has been that until recently (due to factors such as maybe even not doing lsd, age, and onset of diabetes-which is relative to that initial irradiated milk) I was able to reprogram my brain, as well as open up other parts which are latent faculties most people laugh at. I spent over 20 years without needing thyroid medications.

With my understanding of how computers work, I was able to get a much clearer image of my own mind/brain, which has also aided me in other understandings such as the possibility of integrating our individual 'mind terminals' into a kind of 'collective neural gestalt' similar in a thought/psychic/spiritual sense to the internet.

The point I am making is that ideas themselves can be taken in at least 2 directions; creative or destructive, and if the systems in place support fear-based-destructive technologies over faith/belief-based creative technologies, then what expectation can there be of responsible and proper usage of anything?

FoM;

nj, ak, cn, pa, and ny...

these people

see and understand

what this world can be,

what a wonderful world.

The Dixie Chicks are number one in Amazon sales today.

On an unrelated note, this guy has the right idea...

Chavez: Imprison 'genocidal' Bush: http://tinyurl.com/mvttn

So do these girls...

Dixie Chicks: Not Ready to Make Nice: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/11/60minutes/main1611424.shtml

THE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN...

Kevin Barrett: Media hide truth: 9/11 was inside job: http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=83698&ntpid=1

Civilian Debate Team selected to debate government account of 9/11: http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/DebatePressRelease8May2006.html

THE NATIONAL 9/11 DEBATE: http://www.teamliberty.net/id244.html

'United 93' Promotes 9/11 Govt Conspiracy Theory: http://911review.org/Wiki/flight_93_movie.html

Why NORAD Interceptors Couldn't Catch Those 9/11 Boeings: http://rense.com/general71/catch.htm

Video: Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime: http://www.911blogger.com/2006/05/video-everybodys-gotta-learn-sometime.html

they never answered me,

can you wonder?

do you wonder?

I can pray,

For my neighbor,

around the bottomless pit,

What A Wonderful world,

cannot be harvested by those who have only

signed a treaty or agreement,

a bargain that is made in ignorance,

my foot is marching along,

in this world.

I Am, not your enemy,

I see a better world

Have learned how to modify the genes of plants,

This marvel of LSD

Has only brought us,

Dead seeds and a deeper control

Not some future place and time,

'We those people, in this world,

Can come together, to end this war,

On people, on children and to all the Mothers,

With one swift hand

This bloodshed can end.

Thank you. Thank you. One of my worst nightmares is that I wil go to my death leaving a world that believes all our psychedelic experience was nothing more than a 'drug party.'

In a sane world, such experiences would be sought after as wisdom. There is a lot that modern folks take for granted that may have never happened if it were not for the psychedelic enhancement of some very intelligent people's imaginations.

We wouldn't have the knowlege of DNA. Watson recently admitted using LSD to enhance his understanding of the DNA molecule, actually he admitted that he 'discovered' DNA while under the influence.

We likely as not would not be having this medium of the internet, and the user interface we take for granted known as GUI, and the mouse. The phenomenon of the 'micro chip' and the silicon semiconductor revolution may never have happened at all.

The colors we now take for granted that are in everything, are a stark contrast to the black and white humdrum of the fifties and early sixties. Without the psychedelic experience, an incredible amount of video and musical productions would have never happened. All these things are a direct result of our generational experience of the colors and patterns of life, expanded into our immediate awareness through the use of psychedelics.

The kind of thinking that is hailed by the power elite as 'proper' and 'right' was despoiled quite easily when stacked up against the true reality which was revealed to some of us in our search for intelligent life on planet earth via the use of such sacraments as LSD, Psilicybin, and Peyote.

The psychedelics obviously scared the powers and principalities quite badly. I mean if all you have to do to see the truth and become enlightened (of course it is not even that simple) is ingest a few hundred mics of LSD, that kind of shakes up their 10 thousand+ year old plan of conquest, aquisition, and slavery of planet earth.

Marijuana is noted for achieving similar, albeit maybe less 'spectacular' results, so pot smokers scare them even more, because of it's widespread use.

The emporers are naked. Their power is an illusion that is fueled by the ingorance and fears of the masses. The people always had the power, but were too bereft of known options and too full of unknown fears.

The time is upon us where only the people can save our planetary home, and the life that we haven't yet destroyed in the interests of supporting the cap of the pyramid. Only the people whose basic interests are the same; Peace, sustenance, reasonable comfort, and some kind of honest recognition of Greater Spirit (God), can effect the changes that need to be implemented. As long as we continue to delegate our natural and inherent earthly human authority to those whose intent and purposes are selfish and destructive, then we can only watch in horror as it all comes crashing down around us.

These sacraments that have been given to us by that 'Greater Spirit' are blessings that history (if there is one) will regard with thankfullness and reverence, while those human parasites with their gold, their silver, and their other dead things they value so ridiculously high, will be regarded as the epitomy of humanity's darkest hour, and the evilist of men and women ever to walk the earth.

I see skies of blue..... clouds of white Bright blessed days....dark sacred nights And I think to myself .....what a wonderful world.

The colors of a rainbow.....so pretty ..in the sky Are also on the faces.....of people ..going by I see friends shaking hands.....sayin’.. how do you do They’re really sayin’......i love you.

I hear babies cry...... I watch them grow They’ll learn much more.....than I’ll never know And I think to myself .....what a wonderful world

The colors of a rainbow.....so pretty ..in the sky Are there on the faces.....of people ..going by I see friends shaking hands.....sayin’.. how do you do They’re really sayin’...*spoken*(I ....love....you).

http://www.maps.org/mdma/

Even the government concedes that the worst that can happen is some discomfort ...

All those "hen parties" are quite the mental cathartic.

few societies encourage men to "open up" like that and we, men, suffer for it.

don't write it off, though. In the seventies MDMA was used for treatment initially, but filtered to the street and got a bad name.

Under it's influence a person will "solve" their own problems simply by talking and thinking.

LSD is like that, perhaps less emphatic and a trifle more chaotic in nature.

Used responsibly, as we all try to do, (don't we?), MDMA clears the cobwebs from your mind. All becomes clear ...

I smoked grass,

But never gatewayed to Heroin,

To me it is something every human being should experience at least once. It's THAT special. It is so magical in fact that it is in my view sacramental in nature. It could melt the heart of the most hardened, hateful terrorist!

Whadda country! You can smoke Marlboro Reds until you're flat in bed, dying of cancer, but don't pop an MDMA, or we'll throw you in jail!

The article didn't really get into that, did they? They sort of mentioned how everyone's using aliases, but they didn't mention why. The Governor, State Legislature, state DA's, cops, and everyone else right on down the line is sworn to arrest and imprison this girl for taking a couple MDMA pills. The laws orders that she be taken from her bed and put into prison.

To this point, I would add that anyone saying that nonsense about being "fully engaged" has obviously never tried MDMA. One of its most striking qualities is that the user is absolutely and fully present in the moment---NOT wasted and dopey and disengaged... the opposite, in fact. It makes one more centered and reflective than they have ever been before.

There is so much misinformation, disinformation, confusion and misunderstanding about "drugs", it is a wonder anyone learns anything.

Notice also the quote from ONDCP - MAPS isn't "just" seeking the "truth" because they're also funding a medical MJ project at UMass? A pure research project? More total doublespeak. "he's not really trying to do research, because he's doing research". Yah, OK. Spend a few more billion of my taxes on this message & mabye I'll finally understand it.

Another thing to note: There was a HUGE, nearly full-page anti-MJ ad from ONDCP in this newspaper today also. So when the ONDCP weighs in with their opinion (it sure as hell isn't fact), they're not merely another opinion, they're also an important customer, paying the salary of the people at the Globe.

Life and Death and The Law, rest, peace and and end to suffering may yet be a little further away, further as in deeper into this magnificent universe.

It was a good example of the worth of using MDMA.

{"If we're altering their mental experience and their sense of . . . the dying process, then we're crossing some boundaries that need to be very highly considered," said Keith Meador, director of the theology and medicine program at Duke University Divinity School.}

"fully engaged at the end of life." You mean like dying patients doped up on opiate-based pain medications routinely used in end of life pain treatments?

This statement is at best a very gross error, and at worst a purposeful lie. MDMA is most definitely NOT addictive! This is a known fact. "Addictive" is a clinical term, and when clinical terms are used, they have to be applicable in fact. "Addictive" refers to a substance that causes nagging cravings, changes peoples' behavior toward obtaining that substance on a regular basis, and produces withdrawal symptoms. Withdrawal syndrome is the hallmark of addiction, and MDMA absolutely does not cause that in any shape or form. In fact, the vast majority of users use it very infrequently, like once a month or once every few months.

Of course there are a small segment of users who have no self control whatsoever and use it far more often and come to believe they are dependent on it, but that is a different matter entirely, related to disorders of those users' personalities and psychologies---not MDMA itself.

MDMA also has absolutely not been shown conclusively (clinically, as in by actual scientific studies) to cause heart damage or brain cell damage. There is controversy about the neuronal aspects, but no scientific proof whatsoever.

Excerpt: ''This is not Leary saying to young people . . . ''Take LSD. Drop out, and we're going to change society,' " said Rick Doblin, president of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, an advocacy group that has pushed for resumption of psychedelic studies for years. ''This is something that can be helpful to people who have never done drugs before, and after they are done, they are not going to go out and undermine the foundations of our society."

I say it was LSD and marijuana and Leary's teaching that opened people's minds to what is wrong with society. We have plenty wrong with society now.