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Posted by CN Staff on February 08, 2006 at 19:26:06 PT
By Jon Sarche, Associated Press Writer 
Source: Associated Press  

cannabisnews.com Denver -- The Bush administration on Wednesday unveiled its 2006 anti-drug program, a campaign that encourages more high schools to screen students and urges teens to live above the influence of drugs and peer pressure.

Drug use among some teen groups is down, and this year's strategy focuses on expanding or improving existing campaigns for prevention, treatment and reducing supplies, said John P. Walters, director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.

"We're not radically tearing things up because, for the first time in a couple of decades, we're having dramatic results," he said in an interview before presenting the strategy at a youth substance-abuse treatment center. "We want to keep the pressure on."

Illicit drug use among 8th, 10th and 12th graders had dropped by 19 percent, or about 700,000 teens, since 2001, he said.

Since the Supreme Court ruled in 2002 that schools can randomly test high school students in competitive extracurricular activities, his office and the Department of Education have provided grants and other support to at least 350 school districts to screen students.

Walters said the number of districts participating has grown by about one per week since last spring.

The drug control office says screening can deter teens from starting to use drugs and can identify teens who have begun to use drugs, providing parents and counselors a chance to intervene.

Screening can also identify teens who have developed a dependency on drugs so they can be referred for treatment, the office said.

"If we reduce teenage exposure, the problem will be reduced for generations to come," Walters said. "If you start to use later, there's a much lower risk of addiction."

Prescription drug abuse and illicit drug abuse among adults remain problems, he said.

Walters dismissed claims by critics who said he chose Denver for the drug-policy announcement because voters last fall legalized possession of small amounts of marijuana for adults, or because a similar proposal could be on the statewide ballot in November.

"There's a lot of misinformation, a lot of lying, that goes on in these campaigns," Walters said. He said more youth seek or are ordered to get treatment for marijuana use than for alcohol or for all other illicit drugs combined.

Mason Tvert, director of SAFER, which proposed the Denver marijuana initiative and is backing the statewide initiative, said the number of people in treatment programs is up because drug courts and arrests are up.

Tvert's group argues that marijuana is safer than alcohol and should be taxed and regulated like alcohol.

The White House anti-drug strategy calls for expanding intervention programs and increasing treatment options, increased funding for drug courts, which can order supervised drug treatment rather than prison time, and stepped-up enforcement to halt production and transportation of illegal drugs.

The president's fiscal 2007 budget request for the agency is $12.7 billion, up $109.1 million, or 1 percent, from the current budget of $12.5 billion, the agency said.

Source: Associated Press (Wire)
Author: Jon Sarche, Associated Press Writer
Published: Wednesday, February 8, 2006
Copyright: 2006 The Associated Press

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Comment #44 posted by Hope on February 10, 2006 at 21:29:58 PT
mai_bong_city
The committment you are making is beautiful. I wish you much success!

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Comment #43 posted by mai_bong_city on February 10, 2006 at 18:42:01 PT
what i'm gonna' do.
i've decided to make a firm committment to do whatever it is one does in the realm of spiritual - whether you want to call it prayer, screaming, dancing, meditation, begging, - but we need help, people, all of us. i'm going to give at the very least one hour to pleading the causes, which are so many, right now - every day for the rest of my days. i'll likely do more than one, but i can guarantee at least one. if everybody gave up one hour to focus, ask for help - energy, healing, what-have-you - there are so many things that need to be righted, i'm afraid.....it does no good to get our medicine if the planet is burned beyond recognition - if our land is destroyed by nature, our country by corruption, the world by horrors innumerable..... anyway, for now that's the only thing i know that i can do - not just think, not just worry, but to focus myself on asking for the help and the guidance we all need so desperately if we are to survive..... oh and - anybody that's got time off this summer - consider going to washington, d.c. and making the presence of the american people known...... we can make it happen, yeah, we CAN make it happen.

in this first special hour, i'm also going to be thankful for the peace and understanding that is here and for those that made it possible.

mbc

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Comment #42 posted by global_warming on February 10, 2006 at 16:05:17 PT
is it a 'white house
or some house that is filled with so much disgrace,

even the color is a lie,

for can such deceit and evil lust,

ever be allowed to spread on this green world?



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Comment #41 posted by ekim on February 10, 2006 at 08:34:54 PT
1 month after 911-oh they hate us cause were free
Chinese Hemp Industry has Boundless Potential Posted by FoM on November 05, 2001 at 09:01:46 PT Business News Source: People's Daily http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread11260.shtml As world fashion increasingly moves toward simplicity, comfort and health protection, experts point out that hemp, a major economic crop in China, could have great market prospects after the nation's entry into the World Trade Organization. Xia Jingyuan, a senior official with the Chinese Ministry of Agriculture in charge of the extension of agricultural technology, said that the annual output of Chinese linen is worth over 10 billion yuan (about 1.2 billion US dollars). Teacher Fired In Hemp Controversy Wins Appeal Posted by FoM on November 12, 2001 at 19:48:27 PT By Louise Taylor Source: Lexington Herald-Leader http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread11329.shtml Donna Cockrel, the fifth-grade teacher whose pupils actor Woody Harrelson taught about the merits of industrial hemp, will have her day in court to argue that she was fired from Simpsonville Elementary School because of her controversial choice of guests.

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Comment #40 posted by kaptinemo on February 10, 2006 at 05:51:26 PT:

My choice of terms was intentional
And judging from the responses by The GCW, Sam Adams and Runderwo, quite appropriate. But Runderwo reminded me of something I had only glossed over: the process of blame.

In the re-education camps run by the Chinese Communists after their 1947-49 Civil War, the opium addicts were physically brutalized...and psychologically indoctrinated to blame others for their addictions - in much the same way the captured 'treatment patients' have been indoctrinated with the offical catechism of the DrugWar, blaming their hard drug addictions on cannabis usage. The similarities of ideology are strikingly familiar, as are the methods used.

Tell me again: WHO won the Cold War, when operations like this and the so-called STRAIGHT organizations used the same methodology as the hated Commies?

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Comment #39 posted by runderwo on February 09, 2006 at 19:10:26 PT
well
It's not just re-education. It's a propaganda tool. These 're-educated' adults are taught blame all of their past problems on the drug they had a problem with (whether it was the drug's fault, the prohibition's fault, or their own damn fault). That is a very tempting and easy thing to do, especially when the drugs are demonized. They become a propaganda tool when the prohibitionists find shining examples to put on the air.

"Marijuana ruined my son's life, so I support any measure to keep it off the streets."

"Only after the fog of years of marijuana use had lifted did I realize that this is not a harmless drug and that it had taken away a large part of my life."

And so on. From the date they graduate, they are even better than state-compliant legal-drug-only citizens to the prohibitionists; they are eternal propaganda zombies, ready to blame all sorts of evil on the drugs whenever their masters beckon.

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Comment #38 posted by The GCW on February 09, 2006 at 18:27:44 PT
kaptinemo #33, I want to add:
kaptinemo pointed out, "part of the 're-education camps' made famous by the Commies"

Remember a couple years ago, there was news that the Bush administration hired on some of the old Russian Commie crew to run some the the US afairs? Security or something?

The commie mind set is calculated and welcome by Bush to, -get under.

A dark dirty way.

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Comment #37 posted by Sam adams on February 09, 2006 at 11:09:02 PT
re-education
Kapt - you're absolutely right of course. I can make it even simpler. You're describing two ways that the feds get what they want from the MJ treatment component of WOD - more power.

Our country is a capitalist one. Our political class doesn't use, or need to use, violent oppression to keep the people down. They can make each one of us work for them simply by taking more and more of our money through taxes. They don't need to ask for the money. They don't need to come to your house. They just take it right out of your paycheck.

What I'm saying is that every dollar in the goverment budget equals increased control over us. When the government is able to spend more money, it's actually (1) controlling more of the taxpayer's lives, making us work more to pay them, and (2) it's also gains control over those receiving the money. Mainly because they'll do almost anything to continue receiving the money, but also in the form of direct kickbacks to those in the political class.

Kickbacks are endemic to the political class in the US. You won't read about it in the mainstream media, but I'll guarantee you that virtually every contract signed by the government includes some form of kickback, be it at the federal, state, or local government. The surprising part is how little money they'll need to sell out. Often when state reps get caught, they'll have reversed themselves on a certain bill or issue for only a few hundred dollars.

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Comment #36 posted by whig on February 09, 2006 at 11:06:20 PT
museman
"Nice piece. Reminded me of Kate BusH a lot. Couldn't understand all the lyrics. Seemed like a 'crossroads' song."

Yeah, crossroads song sounds about right. You're very wise.

Tori was pretty heavily influenced by KaTe too. As for KaTe herself, she has a new double album (Aerial) out as of last year, really incredible.

Video excerpt:

http://tinyurl.com/9ylsc

(I like how she uses the Elvis metaphor for what we're all really talking about.)

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Comment #35 posted by afterburner on February 09, 2006 at 11:03:45 PT
There Is No Time Limit on Freedom of Religion
"Congress shall make NO LAW prohibiting the free exercise of religion. The USE of cannabis is the EXERCISE of my religion." Whig

Congress, ruling that any religion using so-called "controlled substances" must have historical precedents, does NOT meet the NO LAW test. Besides, for cannabis the presence of cannabis (kaneh-bosm) in the holy annointing oil of Christianity *does* meet their feeble "controlled substances" restriction!

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Comment #34 posted by FoM on February 09, 2006 at 11:01:46 PT
kaptinemo
Very good. I guess all my life I have felt removed from society in a way even though I was working and very much a part of society. I always felt something empty inside that said somethings just aren't right.

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Comment #33 posted by kaptinemo on February 09, 2006 at 10:55:39 PT:

A partial answer, FoM
The 'treatment' for cannabis serves at least two purposes. The first is economic; the second is a matter of politics.

The economics are pretty much obvious: money for those who couldn't find a job otherwise. It's a boondoggle to stick cannabis (ahem) 'addicts' (yeah, right) in treatments beds that could be used for REAL hard drug addicts. But it's *easier*, partly because cannabis is the drug one is most often arrested for...and cannabists are a largely peaceful bunch not prone to giving the 'treatment' staff the kind of 'challenges' to their methodology and their authority over their 'charges' as a hard drug addict would. Think of Noelle Bush, for example...

The second part is less obvious, but in retrospect it becomes even clearer than the first, for we're talking about nothing less than a culture war...and these 'treatment centers' are a part of the 're-education camps' made famous by the Commies and whose methodology has been adopted by the prohibs running these places. 'Re-education' means further indoctrination of those who didn't assimilate the first round of bilge while in school. So the culture war's commissars like Calvina Fay and Johnny Pee get to have a second go at putative adults who had already made an informed decision regarding their choice of intoxicants, and must be chivvied back onto the 'straigtt and narrow'...as *the prohibs* see it. The hypocrisy of the entire issue never enters their minds, as they cannot afford to entertain the slightest doubt in their convictions; such is indicative of 'weakness' in their beliefs, and that cannot be tolerated.

So, we have the whole crazy mess of lies, hypocrisy and waste...waste of time, waste of money and ultimately, wasting lives. Which will continue until the economy worsens enough for calls to end wasteful spending become louder...or until enough States enact MMJ laws and force the issue into Congress's awareness.



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Comment #32 posted by FoM on February 09, 2006 at 10:43:08 PT
My 2 Cents
This is what I think. The behavior is anti-establishment and that scares the powers that be.

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Comment #31 posted by Max Flowers on February 09, 2006 at 10:40:24 PT
FoM
Teaching them to be afraid of intimidated by, and in deference to the SYSTEM, the man, the government, "society". That's what they hope to accomplish.

It might work in some cases, too.

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Comment #30 posted by Hope on February 09, 2006 at 10:39:56 PT
They say,
"You're sick. You know you are sick? Don't you?"

And you better say "Yes, Sir"...or "Yes, Ma'm", if you know what's good for you.

Especially since they have the power to "hospitalize", keep you in "protective" custody, detain, medicate (their choice of drugs this time), draw your body fluids, or incarcerate you.

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Comment #29 posted by Hope on February 09, 2006 at 10:31:19 PT
Oh yeah...
and their "treatment" is for "sending a message".

They treat people as though they have to be "decontaminated" or something.

It's a valuable...and profitable..."message" sending device for prohibs.

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Comment #28 posted by cloud7 on February 09, 2006 at 10:29:40 PT
Treatment
For money. It's cheaper than locking someone up. Nearly everyone will pay the large fees to do it rather than getting a mark on their record. So for everyone they get into "treatment" for their marijuana "problem" they make a tidy little sum. Treatment in the justice system is the pee testing in the business world. Self perpetuating and doesn't solve anything. Of course, it also helps keep the numbers for "treatment" staggeringly high so that the prohibs can pull them out whenever necessary.

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Comment #27 posted by Hope on February 09, 2006 at 10:28:42 PT
What is the treatment for?
I think it's to "re-educate" a person...and brainwash them.

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Comment #26 posted by FoM on February 09, 2006 at 10:18:02 PT
What is The Treatment For?
What is trying to be accomplished by making minors or adults go into treatment for the use of marijuana? What do they accomplish and where are the end results of these treatment programs?

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Comment #25 posted by cloud7 on February 09, 2006 at 10:14:29 PT
Most important point highlighted in red
""There's a lot of misinformation, a lot of lying, that goes on in these campaigns," Walters said. He said more youth seek or are ordered to get treatment for marijuana use than for alcohol or for all other illicit drugs combined."

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Comment #24 posted by runderwo on February 09, 2006 at 09:32:33 PT
pira
That was going to be my response to this:

"Illicit drug use among 8th, 10th and 12th graders had dropped by 19 percent, or about 700,000 teens, since 2001, he said."

Illicit drug use. This claim gives us no information about how many of these 700,000 teens were using more dangerous legal drugs instead, like alcohol, cough syrup, pharms (stimulants/opiates/antidepressants), huffing octane booster, etc. This statement shows that they are not interested in reducing harm as much as they are interested in fighting the drug war.

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Comment #23 posted by pira on February 09, 2006 at 07:27:27 PT:

Poppy-cock
complete poppy-cock; is this anti-drug war against alcohol too? It's perfectly legal, for 21+ yr olds, yet it is MUCH more abused by highschoolers than weed is; This government is a sham and it needs to realize the war on "drugs" is much less important than many other things.... If there is a war on drugs... AIM it correctly, alcohol is a MUCH bigger threat than marihuana is and ever will be. BS in my opinion :(

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Comment #22 posted by ekim on February 09, 2006 at 07:19:40 PT
worth another mention
High: The True Tale of American Marijuana - Review found on www.drugwarrant.com There's a great new film about the drug war making its debut this month. John Holowach has created a serious documentary that's lots of fun to watch. And while the title, High: the True Tale of American Marijuana gives you the starting point for this film, the overall content sneaks up on you and before you're fully aware of it, you've come to understand that the entire drug war is inescapably interconnected.

John Holowach is an accomplished film-maker who has passionate feelings about the drug war (he's been a regular at Drug WarRant.com ). This film came about because of his realization that there was an important void to be filled. And "High" is the only documentary out there that provides a comprehensive contemporary view of drug policy reform.

- continue reading the review -

Visit the website of HIGH OFFICIAL PUBLIC PREMIERE February 28, 2006 Ohio State University Campbell Hall, Room 200 7:30 PM - $5 Q&A with Director afterwards More public showings listed at the site, including February 28 at Brown University, and March 24 at Truman State University. If you want to set up a showing, there's contact information on the site.

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Comment #21 posted by HEMPCANADIAN on February 09, 2006 at 06:27:08 PT
Lies
Illicit drug use among 8th, 10th and 12th graders had dropped by 19 percent, or about 700,000 teens, since 2001, he said.

Sure! That's true!!!

They were all arrested and put into jail or forced treatment!

Johnny Liar pants on fire

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Comment #20 posted by mayan on February 09, 2006 at 06:26:29 PT
Killer Drugs Vs. Cannabis
Where is the White House and Johnny Pee when it comes to drugs that actually kill people? Nowhere to be found...

25 deaths linked to ADHD drugs: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060209-124320-7473r.htm

Number of deaths caused by cannabis: 0

More on Iowa...

Lawmakers cool to easing pot penalty: http://www.qctimes.net/articles/2006/02/09/news/local/doc43eaf4aa3638e702676307.txt



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Comment #19 posted by mayan on February 09, 2006 at 04:43:04 PT
Mason
Mason Tvert, director of SAFER, which proposed the Denver marijuana initiative and is backing the statewide initiative, said the number of people in treatment programs is up because drug courts and arrests are up.

Way to be there with the quick comeback, Mason! You just made Johnny Pee look like the deceptive sack of crap that he is! It's about time someone called pee-brain on that one! Mason is on a hot streak and quickly becoming one of this movement's greatest assets. He just has a way of making his opponents look so silly!

THE WAY OUT...

BYU’s Dr. Steven Jones Blows the Roof off a Utah Auditorium: http://mujca.com/jonesphysics.htm

The Company We Keep: http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/green/company.html

World's first Sept. 11 convict released in Germany: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060207/ts_afp/usattacksgermany

210 9/11 'Smoking Guns' Found in the Mainstream Media: http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911smokingguns.html



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Comment #18 posted by Toker00 on February 09, 2006 at 03:56:39 PT
Whig
Sure, but the religious use of EITHER is properly protected. If you say that Jimson Weed is your sacrament, I will choose not to partake, and I might caution you of the dangers attendant to this, but it is your faith and the state does not have constitutional power to interfere.

It's Religion when you drink arsenic and handle snakes. Yet, if you inhale Cannabis smoke, you're just "getting high". Tell me the difference between the American Indian having the right to use peyote as a sacrement, and American Hippies wanting the right to use cannabis as one. Where's the difference?

Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!

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Comment #17 posted by kaptinemo on February 09, 2006 at 03:46:07 PT:

Psychological projection at work
From http://www.alleydog.com/glossary/definition.cfm?term=Projection

"Projection: Projection is one of the defense mechanisms identified by Freud and still acknowledged today. According to Freud, projection is when someone is threatened by or afraid of their own impulses so they attribute these impulses to someone else."

"Lying", Johnny Pee? *Lying*, is it? It's *lying* to present the facts regarding a singular lack of fatalities regarding cannabis use? It's *lying* to point out the racist origins of the cannabis laws? It's *lying* to show how so many DrugWarriors make their bread-and-butter from a pack of lies that you and your coterie refuse to debate about...indeed, as in the recent case of Ms. Fay, run with tail between legs rather than have the intestinal fortitude of standing up for and defending their convictions?

Yepper, looks and sounds like 'projection' to me. And have a care, Johnny; calling reformers 'liars' is bound to land you in court someday for libel or slander, take your pick. We'd genuinely love to have you demonstrate under oath in court how we are 'lying'...and how you're *not*.

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Comment #16 posted by The GCW on February 09, 2006 at 02:59:29 PT
With a fair amount of Biblical reference,,,
"There's a lot of misinformation, a lot of lying, that goes on in these campaigns," Walters said."...

With a fair amount of Biblical reference, where does the lying start?

The very 1st page of the Bible, that's where. That's where Christ God Our Father, in anticipation of this problem, helped clear up and expose who is who.

The 1st page!

Genisis 1:11-12 & 29-30:

11Then God said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them"; and it was so. The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good.

&

Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food"; and it was so."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=1&version=49

Those who support prohibiting cannabis are literally stumbling starting from the beginning.

So, it is worthy to help youth resist booze, cigs, sex, cannabis, coffee etc. till they are older and responsible for themselves, however, caging adults who choose to use cannabis is the wrong way to do it.



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Comment #15 posted by museman on February 09, 2006 at 00:31:37 PT
whig#12
Nice piece. Reminded me of Kate BusH a lot. Couldn't understand all the lyrics. Seemed like a 'crossroads' song.

From my own experience, I would also have to advise against Jimson weed in ones pharmacopia.

As John Lennon said.

"Whatever get's you through the night, is alright."

Harmful or harmless. The choice is still always a personal one, unless the harm is inflicted. The path of love and truth is not hidden, and part of that understanding is actually prohibitive of the kind of judgement and condemnation heaped unjustly on humanity by an small exclusive minority of humanity, who have in other times been known by many names, but always the same ruling game.

As far as the difference between the 'aspect' of negative destructive spirit, and the aspect of spirit of creation and eternity, that too is deeply rooted in that I am of our being, seen as only our eyes can see.

Yet who can know what I have seen through these eyes lest I should tell them? And can we transpose perpective so literally and easily that we could 'know' the way in which each of our souls see God?

There are myths and legends, which are based on history. There is history of record which is based on myth. Power of rule dictates the way the history is written. One can only attempt to sort it out for their own satisfaction and understanding.

peace

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Comment #14 posted by museman on February 08, 2006 at 23:47:00 PT
liberty and justice for all
Freedom is a simple thing. Each and every one of us are born with it, "endowed" is a word our founding fathers recognized. For the sake of freedom rivers have run red with the blood of nations and peoples since before anyone can truly say.

As each of us live our daily lives we can come to understand the simplicity, and see the beauty in such simplicity of that birthright of freedom. Those of us who experienced the real agenda behind those wars so bravely fought in the guise of freedom, have a deep appreciation for those many who fell with a noble belief in their heart, and can deeply appreciate the real cost of that freedom.

To establish such freedom as an uncontested reality, was I believe the intent of designing a government that was 'of the people.' It was that intent which contracted the document of the U.S. Constitution as a format and formula for a progressive government that was closely relative, and so involved with the people, that it was the people itself.

The ideal of 'liberty and justice for all' is spoon fed to every American child from the first day of school. It is a high ideal, a wonderful and great concept, perhaps even worth dying for, however the reality of the situation is long past due for a good long look.

What is it that we needed freedom from? Was it not always the same form of tyranny and oppression that the world witnesses of us today? Is it not the same inciting of division among the people as it observed in this insidious and insane persectution of innocent American citizens for their use of a plant. Persecution of such a deliberate imbalance and injustice is nothing more or less than a fascist agenda.

How did this happen?

Greed. How long did it take before the stature of ones proprietary worth became the measure of politics? Almost immediately I would assume.

As long as the people are free to exercize the liberties that are within their god given endowments of life, and the providence of the Earths abundance without constant threat of losing them, they are content to live their lives as best as they can.

When those liberties which have been preached loudly as the justifcation for war, and the 'acceptabilty' of the death and destruction resulting, then the people who are being asked to make such a sacrifice have a deeply embedded right to expect responsibility and accountabilty on the part of their government.

When a significant number of the population of any country shares a common understanding, such as more than 60% knowing the truth about marijuana, then it is only reasonable to expect that kind of representation, at least in a truly representative government.

When a government assumes such power that it can literally imperialize the globe with it's doctrine and control it's wealth, then if it is not responsive to the right and true needs of it's people. It is left to the people to set aright the true course of destiny.

Thus as the oppression grows, and the pain inflicted upon us all by such greed and exploitation of life and resource continues to escalate, and as the very lifeblood of our liberty is turned to the dust in the wake of the rich man's passing carriages, let the powerful take heed.

You can only police the people so far.



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Comment #13 posted by lombar on February 08, 2006 at 23:40:01 PT
Love that joker..
"Illicit drug use among 8th, 10th and 12th graders had dropped by 19 percent, or about 700,000 teens, since 2001, he said."

Since they do not really know the true extent of actual usage (because who wants to admit being a criminal), how can they claim there is a reduction?. How do they know its just that people are more savy and know better than to admit being the modern day equivelent of a witch - a drug user. Just a number game. They are just trying to counter the (true) notion that the war on drugs is lost. There is a word for trying to program the populace to believe fiction as truth...

"Propaganda is a set of methods employed by an organized group that wants to bring about the active or passive participation in its actions of a mass of individuals, psychologically unified through psychological manipulation and incorporated in an organization." (p. 61) Jacques Ellul, Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes

L.E.A.P is more accurate in asserting that the numbers of people addicted to drugs has stayed constant, despite the billions spent.

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Comment #12 posted by whig on February 08, 2006 at 23:24:14 PT
museman
Speaking of Jimson Weed, know this one by her fruit, and please tell me what you think.

http://tinyurl.com/ax2ed

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Comment #11 posted by whig on February 08, 2006 at 23:17:11 PT
museman
"one mans sacrament is another mans devil weed"

Sure, but the religious use of EITHER is properly protected. If you say that Jimson Weed is your sacrament, I will choose not to partake, and I might caution you of the dangers attendant to this, but it is your faith and the state does not have constitutional power to interfere.

Furthermore, the "Devil" is just an aspect of God. Pagan thought notwithstanding, there is only ONE God, not two, not three, not a dozen. God takes many aspects, among which are each of us, and within ourselves there is the potential to find many more. It is impossible to worship the "Devil" in a Judeo-Christian sense without in actuality worshiping God, merely in an aspect that confuses most people (because the DECEIVER aspect is MEANT to confuse us). Through each of our many paths, we can find our way up the mountainside, but if we are prohibited even from venturing off the straight path which keeps us away from the mountain, the state seeks to prohibit all religion except worship of its own establishment.

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Comment #10 posted by Hope on February 08, 2006 at 23:05:24 PT
Clel Baudler
It seems like the man is having more than a little trouble with reality.

""We could simplify law enforcement‘s job if we didn‘t have rock concerts. We could simplify their job a lot quicker if we just didn‘t have football games there where we arrest hundreds of drunks over the weekend."

Maybe he's "infiltrated" and he's really on the side of reason, so he's trying to make it a point to show the public how crazy prohibitionists are?

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Comment #9 posted by museman on February 08, 2006 at 22:56:40 PT
one mans sacrament is another mans devil weed
Which one is right?

My Guru said "You shall know them by their fruits."

Lets see marijuanna; Music, Medicine, Art, Literature, Philosphy, and Sacred Practices.

Prohibitionists; Liars, Torturers, B.S.ers, and Purveyers of empty hot air.

Gee

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Comment #8 posted by FoM on February 08, 2006 at 22:43:36 PT
Going Easy on Pot Smokers Draws Iowa Lawmakers Ire
Staff and Agencies

February, 06 2006

DES MOINES, Iowa - An Iowa sheriff‘s decision to hand out tickets instead of arrests for small amounts of marijuana invited a lawmaker‘s slap that it would be simpler to ban rock concerts and football games.

Johnson County Sheriff Lonny Pulkrabek, who oversees the University of Iowa in Iowa City, told a legislative committee he would treat possession of small amounts of marijuana like a traffic violation, allowing hundreds of students arrested each year to graduate without a criminal record.

"The guy that‘s carrying 50 bales of marijuana ... that‘s a different animal," Pulkrabek said, adding he favoured rounding up intoxicated people in a locked "detox centre" in lieu of the crowded jail.

But Republican legislator Clel Baudler, a former state trooper, shot down the notion as sending the wrong message to drug users and abusers.

"We could simplify law enforcement‘s job if we didn‘t have rock concerts. We could simplify their job a lot quicker if we just didn‘t have football games there where we arrest hundreds of drunks over the weekend." Baudler said.

http://www.localnewsleader.com/brocktown/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=138913

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Comment #7 posted by whig on February 08, 2006 at 22:37:28 PT
Hope
"First of all...some of them did "have to do it". They had to do it for someone's health, or benefit and maybe for their own self respect as a free person and child of the creator and reciever of His natural gifts just like anyone else."

This is why I make the religious point explicitly, though I realize not everyone agrees with it.

There are people who have medical conditions that cannabis helps, and it should be available for that, but it would hardly end prohibition if we only managed to get cannabis rescheduled.

If you want to take the strict libertarian position that people should be able to use anything they want, then you must necessarily include heroin. Even in Schedule II, prescribable drugs, cocaine and methamphetamine would have to be swept into this argument. Many people will argue from this perspective, but if we are focused on cannabis specifically then it does place a larger onus on us to show that all of these drugs should be legalized.

The religious use argument is both sincere and avoids this dilemma. For the state to deny us the very Eucharist itself is to condemn us for practicing our religion altogether. We cannot practice our faith if we are constrained only to mouth words without participating in the actual mysteries of God. What has taken the Visible Churches so far from the truth is that they have never seen it in their lifetimes, they do not partake of the body and do not know the spirit, they have only words without context, forms without meanings, empty platitudes. You cannot testify to what you have never seen. It is hearsay, excluded testimony.

Congress shall make NO LAW prohibiting the free exercise of religion. The USE of cannabis is the EXERCISE of my religion.

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Comment #6 posted by Hope on February 08, 2006 at 21:21:45 PT
It's my personal belief that the man,
Souder, is wrong, very wrong, and is, in fact, severely deluded because of that belief.

He's hurting people unnecessarily.

If something you are doing is hurting a lot of people...you need to stop doing it. It's not the cannabis that is hurting so many people. It's the law.

Example, for most people arrested for any marijuana offense ...smoking or eating that cannabis didn't ruin their lives or cause them serious harm...if any harm...it was the getting caught...the getting busted...the getting punished, the getting fed into the hungry prison industry complex... that made the children and the spouses and the friends cry and grieve.

Much as the prohibitionists would like to believe it...the cannabis didn't do all that harm.

It was the getting busted....and punished that took the breadwinner to a cell and left the family miserable and needy.

They say, "He/She knew it was against the law. It was their own fault. They didn't have to do it."

First of all...some of them did "have to do it". They had to do it for someone's health, or benefit and maybe for their own self respect as a free person and child of the creator and reciever of His natural gifts just like anyone else.

Prohibitionists don't understand because it's their law and their prohibition and we better all mind them like sheep or children on this matter or they will kill or hurt us in some way.

We're not talking about murder or rape. We are NOT.

We are talking about a plant that some people enjoy using for a benefit, because they like it, or just for fun.

Using cannabis for fun is probably less dangerous, if it weren't illegal, than riding a roller coaster for fun.

Now I'll have the purveyors of carnival rides up in arms agains legalization probably.



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Comment #5 posted by TroutMask on February 08, 2006 at 21:03:31 PT
Good luck??
Um, good luck?? Seems these folks are worse off than the "drug users" they're trying to protect. -TM

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Comment #4 posted by Hope on February 08, 2006 at 21:02:28 PT
Afterburner
I'm afraid Souder does think he's "just" for punishing the consumer or purveyor of cannabis.

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Comment #3 posted by afterburner on February 08, 2006 at 20:16:09 PT
Hymn to God's cannabis
"There's not a plant or flower below but makes thy glories known," --I sing the almighty power of God. Words: Isaac Watts (1674-1748). Music: English traditional (Forest Green, also used for "O little town of Bethlehem"), arrangement Ralph Vaughan Williams (1872-1958).

Words of love to John P. Walters: "'Do not judge superficially, but be just in your judgements.'" John 7:24

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Comment #2 posted by MikeEEEEE on February 08, 2006 at 20:07:04 PT
Another Failure
Enough said.

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Comment #1 posted by whig on February 08, 2006 at 19:44:40 PT
Speaks for itself
"There's a lot of misinformation, a lot of lying, that goes on in these campaigns," Walters said.

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