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  Transcript: Etheridge on Medicinal Marijuana
Posted by CN Staff on October 16, 2005 at 18:06:10 PT
By Stone Phillips, Anchor 
Source: Dateline NBC 

medical Transcript: But there’s one part of her story she has never talked about publicly until now: A controversial choice she made to help with the harsh side effects of chemo.

Etheridge: I decided instead of signing up for the drugs that— well, there’s the drug that you take for the pain. But that constipates you. So, you have to take the constipation drug. But then that actually gives you diarrhea. So, you need a little diarrhea drug. Instead of taking five or six of the prescriptions, I decided to go a natural route and smoke marijuana.

Phillips: Medicinal marijuana.

Etheridge: Medicinal marijuana. Absolutely. Every doctor I talked to that I asked about it said that’s the best thing to do. The doctors know.

Phillips: You spoke to your doctors about using marijuana?

Etheridge: Oh, yeah. From the surgeons to the oncologists to the radiation. Every single one was, “Oh, yeah. That’s the best help for the effects of chemotherapy.”

While the medical community remains divided, California is one of 10 states that allows seriously ill people to use marijuana, with a doctor’s recommendation. But federal law prohibits the drug under any circumstances. So, Melissa’s doctors didn’t actually write a prescription. And Melissa used it, despite the risk of federal prosecution.

Etheridge: If they really wanted to come get me really, I mean, there’s so much more going on. And I just—no, I didn’t worry. But it was worth it.

Smoking the marijuana proved too harsh, so early on, she switched to a vaporizer to inhale it. She says it eased her pain, restored her appetite and lifted her depression.

Phillips: How often were you using it?

Etheridge: Oh, every day. I was doing a lot of it at the time, for my pain and for my symptoms. And the minute I didn’t feel it, it I stopped.

Phillips: As a rock star, your position on this does not come as a complete surprise.

Etheridge: I know, I know.

Phillips: Do you worry at all that talking about this from a medicinal standpoint might encourage recreational use? That what somebody hears is, “This takes away pain. This is—this brings comfort.”

Etheridge: Do I worry that it will be abused? Yeah. I mean, Vicodin is abused. Everything that brings pain relief is abused. Yeah. But does that mean because Vicodin is abused, do they keep it away from people? No.They prescribe it. Put the laws on it, prescribe it.

Phillips: Have you thought about being more vocal in the medicinal marijuana movement?

Etheridge: Well, I guess I am now. Yes.

Complete Transcript: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9673481/

Source: MSNBC (US Web)
Program: Dateline NBC
Air Date: October 16, 2005
Copyright: 2005 MSNBC
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Related Article & Web Site:

Melissa Etheridge
http://www.melissaetheridge.com/

Melissa Etheridge Says She Used Marijuana
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21192.shtml


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Comment #78 posted by BGreen on October 18, 2005 at 13:54:40 PT
I, too, have an extreme dislike for LE, PERIOD!
My life has been under constant threat by these jack-booted thugs and it has left a vile, indelible impression in my mind.

My position on the US Marshalls has softened slightly, ONLY because of the words of my brother, Steve Tuck.

IMHO, if you knowingly join up with ANY repressive and megalomaniacal organization, you are GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION for ALL of the crimes that are committed by your organization.

Law Enforcement in the United States is INHERINTLY CORRUPT, and the blood of the innocent is on ALL of their hands.

That being said, I will not be consumed by hatred.

I pity these corrupt LE agents and the eternal suffering they will have to endure, because if there truly is a Heaven and Hell, there is no way that a Holy God would want anything to do with these evil souls, and Hell will be full of jack-booted thugs who once terrorized the public while wearing a badge.

The Reverend Bud Green

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Comment #77 posted by FoM on October 18, 2005 at 12:51:54 PT
Steve
I know you weren't talking to me but I just want to say I agree with you. I am very hot headed. I always have been. I could feel like I was going crazy I'd get so angry. It hurt my health and I wasn't finding it easy to function from day to day. When we can't function we can't do good things, fix mistakes or do much of anything beneficial. What will we be tomorrow? We will be a product of what we do today.

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Comment #76 posted by herbdoc215 on October 18, 2005 at 12:28:49 PT
global, there has been enough hate?
global, there has been enough hate?

to fill the world...we must give a little for any lasting peace to happen! Only by letting them see our humanity can we end the suffering...let's at least try before being blinded by hatred. After all I have suffered if I can reach out in peace, can't you? peace, Steve Tuck

  

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Comment #75 posted by ekim on October 17, 2005 at 19:18:33 PT
just ck out the speaker list at LEAP
i do feel that many are seeing the fact that China is making Billions off Cannabis and over 30 other Countries are trying to do the same. While we are being held back -- you can not tell me that a guy or gal that works for this Great Nation is not aware of this fact -- or the real need for more renewable fuels and broaden our diets with more food grown here in the good ol USA.

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Comment #74 posted by global_warming on October 17, 2005 at 18:01:53 PT
Yeah Right
We can google into eternity

The laws are wrong

Too many good people are in prison

The thousands of consumers of cannabis

That fill our prisons/gulags

Are our legacy and our new world,

Please try to not confuse disease

With Cannabis



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Comment #73 posted by E_Johnson on October 17, 2005 at 17:47:29 PT
global, google before you shoot
The US Marshalls are not the DEA. The job of the US Marshalls is to apprehend federal fugitives and guard federal prisoners when they're awaiting trial in federal detention centers.

They have nothing at all to do with enforcing drug laws. They are not the DEA.

Everything I have heard about them so far sounds like they treat medical marijuana prisoners with kindness and sympathy.



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Comment #72 posted by global_warming on October 17, 2005 at 17:10:59 PT
Steve
Is that you?

"if anybody gets the chance...I wouldn't be either alive or sitting here if it wasn't for the courage and compassion from US Marshals!!!! "

Do you mean those same jack booted drug agents?

Who take sick people into court?

Who inflict a most terrible payment

Not those godless excuses of a human being,

Is that you fellow cannabist?



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Comment #71 posted by MikeC on October 17, 2005 at 14:13:09 PT
Mr. Tuck...
Welcome home! If you need anything at all please feel free to ask.

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Comment #70 posted by E_Johnson on October 17, 2005 at 14:08:39 PT
Hey thanks everyone
I'm blushing.



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Comment #69 posted by ekim on October 17, 2005 at 13:46:29 PT
thanks E set the lites off out of the hole
every one here ---- posting or readen great vibs to all.

hey Doc remember the "Welcome back" Kotter tune for you.

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Comment #68 posted by afterburner on October 17, 2005 at 12:26:57 PT
'unsavory origins'?
Like being included in the Materia Medica before it was irrationally demonized by Harry Anslinger's propaganda crusade?

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Comment #67 posted by runruff on October 17, 2005 at 11:45:28 PT:

Turning maddness into gold.
While cannbis, legal or illegal is nothing less than green gold, unscrupulous privateers have found a way to turn reefer "maddness" into gold. The tides they-are-a-turnin'. Maddness should never be allowed to become the order of the day.

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Comment #66 posted by FoM on October 17, 2005 at 11:16:10 PT
Portion of Subscription Article from Mother Jones
Respectable Reefer

News: How a pulverized, liquefied, and doctor-prescribed form of marijuana could transform the drug-war landscape

By Gary Greenberg

November/December 2005 Issue

If it weren't for the little photo gallery on the wall, the office where Dr. William Notcutt’s research assistants keep track of their patients would be just like any other cubicle at the James Paget Medical Center in England. As phones ring and stretchers wheel by and these three women go about their business, the snapshots—Cheryl Phillips, one of Notcutt’s staffers, gently holding an emerald green bud of marijuana; a group of people in lab coats smiling for the camera, sinsemilla towering over their heads; a hangar-sized greenhouse stuffed to the gills with lush pot plants—are about the only evidence that this hospital in East Anglia is at the epicenter of one of the most extensive medical marijuana research projects in the world. In part, that’s because there’s no actual pot here; by the time it gets to Paget, GW Pharmaceuticals, the British startup that owns the greenhouses, has turned the plants into Sativex, a pure extract of pot that comes in a pharmacy-friendly bottle and is designed to be sprayed into the mouth. And in part it’s because the frivolity is carefully confined to the photos, taken against company policy during a field trip to the secure, undisclosed location where GW grows its weed.

After five years, Phillips and her colleagues have grown used to having cannabis—as the British call marijuana—in their workaday lives. Not only that, but their boss has been on a bit of a campaign to keep things sober. “To get to the perception that this is a medicine,” Notcutt says, “we’ve had to move away from the funnies that relate to the pot world. So no pot jokes.”

Over a beer at the end of his day, this rumpled, 59-year-old anesthesiologist and contract researcher for GW is positively ebullient about the news that just today the Canadian government approved Sativex, a success he thinks is likely to be repeated soon in England and eventually in the United States.

He’ll gladly tell you how important earnestness has been in getting GW to this point, how Sativex owes its success not only to the rigorous science of its successful clinical trials but also to painstaking attention to matters of perception.

Take the spray concept. There are sound medical reasons for spraying cannabis under the tongue rather than smoking or eating it. The mucosa of the mouth will absorb the drug faster than the digestive system, indeed almost as fast as the lungs, but without irritating the respiratory system.

And Sativex can be precisely metered—a single one-tenth milliliter spray contains 2.7 milligrams of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), pot’s main psychoactive chemical; 2.5 milligrams of cannabidiol, which doctors think reduces anxiety and muscle tension; and all of pot’s active ingredients known as cannabinoids—so that it can be accurately studied. But it also has “the advantage of looking like a medicine to the outside world,” Notcutt says. “It has been served up like a medicine, prepared like a medicine, researched like a medicine. It looks like a medicine, and it’s prescribed like a medicine.”

Taking pot out of joints scored on the street and putting it into bottles found on pharmacy shelves shows that “we’re not just being silly about the herb, even though in the end that’s exactly what it is. It’s as if you just squeezed the plant,” he says, wringing an imaginary stalk in his hands.

Notcutt began trying to medicalize cannabis more than a decade ago, and has been working with GW and its founder and ex-ecutive chairman, Geoffrey Guy, since the company’s inception in 1998. He credits Guy (who wouldn’t be interviewed for this article) with hitting upon the spray, just one of the measures he’s taken to distance Sativex from its unsavory origins.

Guy has styled GW, which he started solely to develop cannabis medicines, as just another drug company seeking to develop just another drug. He raised money in the usual ways—first from private investors, then with a 2001 stock offering that garnered $48 million, and finally, in 2003, with an estimated $65 million licensing deal with German pharmaceutical giant Bayer—and used it to purchase the rights to pot varieties that a Dutch company had spent millions of dollars and more than a decade developing for their medicinal properties.

Guy presents himself as neutral in the drug wars and gained the support of the British government by offering to in- stitute extraordinary security measures at his grow facility to prevent “diversion.” The British government, in turn, gave him permission to grow his pot and test it on human subjects and so exempted GW from an international treaty forbidding private production of outlawed drugs.

Guy developed a way to blend the plants (a process he has likened to making blended burgundies) into precise mixtures whose chemical profiles can be standardized (which regulators like), patented (which investors like; cannabis itself can’t be patented), and then described in company press releases as “a novel prescription pharmaceutical product derived from components of the cannabis plant.”

Having successfully distilled pot’s reputation as a medicine from its reputation as a way to get high, Notcutt says, “the powers that be at GW worked hard to maintain this myth. We start in that comfort area, we don’t talk about anything outside this comfort area.” This hard work has no doubt paid off in Canada and England, reassuring regulators that, as Notcutt put it, “we’re talking about a serious medical subject here.”

The real audience for all this mythmaking, however, isn’t Britain or Canada, which will ultimately account for only a small percentage of the cannabinoid drug market, estimated to be almost $1 billion a year. It’s the United States, where, Notcutt says, things are different. “Marijuanaphobia is much greater on your side of the pond,” he told me. “We’ve never had the reefer madness.”

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2005/11/Respectable_Reefer.html

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Comment #65 posted by FoM on October 17, 2005 at 10:39:42 PT
goneposthole
That does sound like a nasty way to die. I don't know if people have taken their own life that way either. A gunshot would be easier then that I think.

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Comment #64 posted by goneposthole on October 17, 2005 at 10:36:57 PT
I remember Charles R.
He slit his throat? Seems like it would be awfully hard to do that. I'm suspicious.

I was watching the show the night he used the F-word.

I don't know anyone who doesn't.

Anyway, he was treated unfairly because of it.

It sounded more like 'fock' and not the other spelling.

I've never heard of anybody slitting their own throat to commit suicide. Their wrists, yes, but not their throat.



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Comment #63 posted by FoM on October 17, 2005 at 10:15:00 PT
Off Topic: I Don't Know Who He Was
When they stopped with all the good pot humor and seemed to get into a cocaine type show I stopped watching SNL for many years so he doesn't ring a bell with me.

***

Former 'SNL' Cast Member Commits Suicide

October 17, 2005

FARMINGTON, Conn. -- Former "Saturday Night Live" comedian Charles Rocket has killed himself.

The Connecticut medical examiner said Rocket slit his throat.

His body was found in a field near his home in Canterbury, Conn., Oct. 7.

He was 56.

Rocket was on "Saturday Night Live" in the 1980-81 season. He was fired for using the F-word on the air.

Rocket also played Bruce Willis' brother in "Moonlighting," and had a recurring role as Adam in "Touched by an Angel."

He also played Grossberg in "Max Headroom" and had roles in the films "Dances With Wolves" and "Dumb and Dumber." Distributed by Internet Broadcasting Systems, Inc.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxreno.com/entertainment/5107079/detail.html

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Comment #62 posted by siege on October 17, 2005 at 09:41:39 PT
DEA
I lived in Calif. for over 50 years and what I seen was that the cops there where disciplined once and the 2nd then fireded for the 3rd time this was it with most of the state. once fired you still had one shoot left, that was San Bernardino County Ca. they have all the Bad cops. and once you get fired from there you have one more go at it and thats D E A and they love you there you can do no wrong there...

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Comment #61 posted by FoM on October 17, 2005 at 09:37:14 PT
Gift of Teaching
Yes EJ is a great teacher.

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Comment #60 posted by Hope on October 17, 2005 at 09:34:53 PT
Comment # 49 E_Johnson
You have a gift for teaching, E_Johnson.

I now know more than I did about the bird flu situation. I hadn't realized that about the migratory pattern of birds.

Well told. Easily understood. I had a close friend who could do that. She was amazing. She could teach you anthing in oh...thirty or forty five minutes. She was infinitely patient. She was very confident. She had a gift, no doubt.

I'm still amazed at her teaching me algebra during one study hall in highschool. I didn't have a clue. It was the only time I ever had to take a mid-term or final test in highschool. I made 90 on the test I took the next day. Of course, I don't remember it now. But it was so cool at the time...I've never forgotten it.

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Comment #59 posted by runruff on October 17, 2005 at 09:24:40 PT:

DEA bragsite
Here is the DEA brag site.

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Comment #58 posted by FoM on October 17, 2005 at 09:15:23 PT
Hope
You know how to get the DEA? I do. Pray for them. That will do! LOL!

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Comment #57 posted by Hope on October 17, 2005 at 09:10:15 PT
the DEA
All you have to do is go to their website...message board thing...I forget what it is called.

They have often proven themselves, or many in their numbers have anyway, to be vulgar, coarse, vile, crude, hateful, nasty, beastly, murderous, destructive, foul mouthed, disrespectful...big time... uncommonly so. Ungodly...in a really ungodly way. They are stupid. They are inane. They are dangerous. They are hideously overarmed and over virilized or something. They are a danger to society. They are "brute beasts fit for destruction".

They're just not worth a damn for anything good.

Ok.

Breathe deeply.

Sometimes you just have to rant to get it all out of your system.

Some, I'm sure are not so bad...perhaps even decent. But that is not the overall cast of the picture their comments illustrate.

I do not like them.

Their pages don't exactly drip with integrity.

I do not admire anything about them. Nothing. Nothing whatsoever.

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Comment #56 posted by goneposthole on October 17, 2005 at 09:06:19 PT
Thanks, E_J
I think of peregrine falcons and cormorants. They're dispersed throughout the world. Peregrine falcons don't go to Antarctica, but there are cormorants there.

A wonderful bird is the Pelican

His beak can hold more than his belly can

He can eat in a week what he holds in his beak

And, I still don't know how the hell he can

The book on birds of North America estimates the total population of all bird species from Mexico to the Northwest Territories is twenty billion. That's lots of birds.

all the more reason to plant lots of hemp.

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Comment #55 posted by runruff on October 17, 2005 at 09:05:34 PT:

The DEA.
This is a near extinct species. They are gluttons who have over grazed the land. Their place in our society is deminishing like the buggy whip industry their place in society is no longer tenable or needed. They are the Spanish bit in a more gentle horse whisperer culture. Their every action and deed only serves to expose them for who they really are. A monsterous self serving beauracracy. They thrive on lies and trickery. History will someday equate this evil entity with the likes of Hitler's brown shirts, Stalin's KGB and the Salem witch hunters of old. They are inhuman, anti-American and the worst of scoundrels. The scourge of our country. The sooner they go away the better for every citizen our freedoms and our rights.

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Comment #54 posted by Hope on October 17, 2005 at 08:57:26 PT
Whoa Nelly Belle!
I'm so excited I'm racing. I'm dreaming. It would be better I think. So much better. Certainly not that much worse than it already is.

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Comment #53 posted by Hope on October 17, 2005 at 08:55:15 PT
Miracles and Busy Angels? Why not?
I think I've seen prayers answered again...miracles seemingly. It's just so awesome I want to clap my hands and jump up and down for joy like a child.

I really don't like it when He seems to say "No" or "Wait". This is so wonderful.

We have him back. Now if we could just get a miracle for Runruff.

It could happen.

I've seen amazing things happen.

Of course it could be that old thing we are so accustomed to...One step forward...two back.

I hope not. I hope this is a lot of steps forward. Maybe we will reach our goal awesomely sooner than we thought.

Some of us often voiced in the past, the thought that this prohibition, this drug war would go down like the Berlin Wall when it went.

No more babies shot out of the sky....by us anyway.

I'd like that. A lot.

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Comment #52 posted by E_Johnson on October 17, 2005 at 08:41:34 PT
I've heard the Marshalls are nice before
Lynn Osburn was in the detention center in LA for a while and he also said the Marshalls were cool. It's the DEA where all this bad energy comes from. I get the impression that the DEA is not held in high regard by other federal law enforcement agencies.



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Comment #51 posted by runruff on October 17, 2005 at 08:39:35 PT:

herbdoc, wow.
I must admit that I have been conditioned to expect the worst were the feds are concerned. You can only imagine my surprise and delight at your present outcome. I am so happy for you bro. I'll be hoping that things will only get better for you as time passes.

Namaste

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Comment #50 posted by Max Flowers on October 17, 2005 at 08:32:51 PT
Steve
Congrats, great to have you back and unharmed!

Don't worry about the Humboldt charges too much... while you've been gone things have changed a lot here and I don't think they have a snowball's chance in hell of convicting you (in a jury trial) in California, *especially* with your background and story. I sure hope your attorney is advising you to play hardball and hold out for a jury trial.

This news really made my day. If the US Marshals were/are being that nice, then I have to figure that they have seen the writing on the wall and times are about to start changing fast for medical cannabis patients. And I LOVED reading that the caring and activism of Cannabis News members has carried over into the very real world of a federal lockup. Things are really changing. What we do and say here COUNTS.

Take care, Steve! If you have time, you could go back and update everyone at Cannabis World too. I know they would all be very heartened by your story and to hear it from you directly. Don't worry about the few grumpy ones there, as I'm sure the vast majority would love to hear from you.

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Comment #49 posted by E_Johnson on October 17, 2005 at 08:25:03 PT
goneposthole, how bird flu works
First, there are two major migratory brd patterns in the world. One group of birds migrates between Asia and Europe, another group migrates between South and North America. The two groups overlap a tiny bit in Northern Europe. So diseases of birds in Asia don't always cross over to birds on our half of the globe.

Second, right now bird flu can pass from birds to humans, but it is not yet very easily transmissable from human to human. Right now they can halt the spread of the bird flu among humans by going after infected birds that have close contact with humans, for example chickens.

If the bird flu virus mutates to become easily transmissable from one human to another, then quarantines of humans become improatnt in halting its spread.

The most dangerous part is not people getting it from birds, the dangerous part is when the virus adapts and puts the birds out of the chain altogether and just passes from human to human.

Most humans don't have close contact with birds but we do have close contact with each other so that's the threat that is coming.

The canine flu so far seems to require close contact to spread. The only verified cases so far in LA were four cases from the same kennel in Inglewood.



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Comment #48 posted by FoM on October 17, 2005 at 08:22:17 PT
dongenero
Thank you so much for the compliment but it really isn't me. Many years ago when my son passed away I kept thinking of a scripture and I couldn't get it out of my mind. It was without a dream a people perish.

I said to God if he would give me a dream I would do whatever He had for me to do for the rest of my life. So thanking God is who should really be thanked.

Steve you go guy! Yes!

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Comment #47 posted by E_Johnson on October 17, 2005 at 08:14:44 PT
Steve I hope you find a luckier song
"All morning I've been singing " Going back to Cali " by Biggie Smalls"

Be careful. Goin back to Cali didn't work out so well for him as I recall.

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Comment #46 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on October 17, 2005 at 08:13:32 PT
Herbdoc215
I am glad things are getting better for you. I really admire your friend Richard Cowan. He is a real intellegant man and good hearted person. I miss seeing his video reports on Pottv. I don't know if he stopped making them or what.

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Comment #45 posted by dongenero on October 17, 2005 at 08:03:28 PT
good news
Congratulations to Steve, glad you're in a better place now. Fed charges dropped, it's a no win situation for them...HumCo should realize the same thing.

Congratulations FoM for what your work here has contributed. How's that for directly benefitting lives! Beautiful!

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Comment #44 posted by herbdoc215 on October 17, 2005 at 08:02:45 PT
Hope, thats a beautiful name...Grandkids are
lifes sweetest pleasures and the #1 reason I am rejoycing about being home, I can see the kids...makes me giddy like one myself. Zoe is a great name, it flows like music :) All morning I've been singing " Going back to Cali " by Biggie Smalls and thanking God for a miracle I sure didn't expect. When things of such magnitude happen it takes your breath for awhile, I still can't believe I was shown mercy...plus I got the coolest, best lawyer the whole world has seen and he won't even let me pay him? Bet nobody has ever heard the phrase "your money is no good here" from a lawyer? He is one in million, Douglas Haitt is best lawyer in USA, hands down. NORML is also on my short list of hero's as well as you people here...I am forever changed by this for the better and any price paid by me was done gladly, I saw heaven and hell and learned that Thoreau was so right about so much (am reading Walden and Civil Disobediance again) and I met some of the best folks in the world sitting in jail...in these times it's where the just men are. I am doing some soul searching as things are changing and my hatreds/fears are sliding away...we got work to do, all of life is triage. Peace and I love you people, you are shining stars and never forget it! peace, steve

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Comment #43 posted by FoM on October 17, 2005 at 07:51:53 PT
PainWithNoInsurance
It doesn't surprise me and that is really sad to not be shocked anymore about issues like this.

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Comment #42 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on October 17, 2005 at 07:41:57 PT
Mad cows
I imagine officials do want to keep it undercover because of trade concerns. This is all sounding like the book of revelations.

Mysterious desease in Idaho http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9725973/

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Comment #41 posted by FoM on October 17, 2005 at 07:40:05 PT
It's Here
I have no doubt in my mind that we have Mad Cow here. They don't want to hurt the beef market so we won't be told about it. I wouldn't eat deer meat because I know it is in the deer and elk population.

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Comment #40 posted by siege on October 17, 2005 at 07:36:28 PT
mad cow
Deseases: here in Tn. we have had 4 die of what they call mad cow in the [ deer meat ] that they have eaten. but it don't get on the news.

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Comment #39 posted by FoM on October 17, 2005 at 07:29:23 PT
goneposthole
Thanks I won't go swimming with the whales. I'd hate to have a whale sneeze on me like the dinosaur sneezed on the girl in the first Jurassic Park! LOL!

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Comment #38 posted by goneposthole on October 17, 2005 at 07:24:17 PT
oh yeah, one more thingy
whales also get the flu, so don't go in the ocean.

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Comment #37 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on October 17, 2005 at 07:23:13 PT
Deseases
I guess the dog flu was passed on from horses or something like that. I just read about a mysterious desease out west in humans that they think might be from mad cow tainted meat.

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Comment #36 posted by goneposthole on October 17, 2005 at 07:22:52 PT
question
If migratory birds spread the bird flu, what good will it do to quarantine populations of humans that might possibly contract the bird flu?

Going to have to drain the swamp and start killing off migratory birds, too. Who needs geese and ducks anyway, along with bald eagles. Birds are for the birds.

fly me to the moon on gossamer wings.

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I can't change. Time to change everything.

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Comment #35 posted by FoM on October 17, 2005 at 07:14:08 PT
PainWithNoInsurance
Yes a dog flu now. When I got my one dog from the pound a few years she had a little cough. I brought her home and didn't think that she was really sick with just a little cough but boy did my Rott get sick. I thought he was going to die. He couldn't breath. I took a shower and kept him in the bathroom with me. I put eucalyptus oil in the water in the bathtub and made him stay in there for a few hours. It broke up his congestion and he started getting better the next day. I have seen the Bubonic Plague on my farm and I know how exotic diseases can happen no matter where we live. It killed my Dog de Bordeaux.

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Comment #34 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on October 17, 2005 at 07:03:54 PT
Dog Flu
I saw there is a growing problem with dog flu. I have never hear of dog flu. The world sure is full of problems.

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Comment #33 posted by FoM on October 17, 2005 at 06:56:15 PT
Thanks Mayan
What a year of hurricanes it has been. I am following the bird flu very closely. I don't think it will get here this winter but maybe next year.

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Comment #32 posted by FoM on October 17, 2005 at 06:53:30 PT
Hope
That is wonderful.

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Comment #31 posted by Hope on October 17, 2005 at 06:50:43 PT
Zoe
I may see the arrival of a new grandchild today. (Not witness the birth. I don't wish to do that.)

A girl. That's her name. Zoe. She'll be the seventh.

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Comment #30 posted by mayan on October 17, 2005 at 06:49:57 PT
Correction
It's not quite in the gulf yet but they say it's heading that way.

Tropical Weather: http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/

Tropical Storms, Worldwide: http://www.solar.ifa.hawaii.edu/Tropical/tropical.html

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Comment #29 posted by mayan on October 17, 2005 at 06:35:25 PT
Wilma
Another storm in the gulf...

Latest Satellite Imagery: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/satellite.shtml

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Comment #28 posted by FoM on October 17, 2005 at 06:30:31 PT
Good Morning
When my husband called last night I told him about Steve and he was very happy and surprised. I really hope and pray that Steve can re-build his life and get his health back. When we go thru really hard times on the other side of the hard time is wisdom I believe. Like Melissa Etheridge said that cancer stopped her and allowed her to focus on what is important.

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Comment #27 posted by mayan on October 17, 2005 at 06:24:43 PT
Tuck
Words can't say. Thank you, my brother.



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Comment #26 posted by Hope on October 17, 2005 at 05:59:15 PT
US Marshals
I thank you for whatever you've done for my friend. It really matters. Thank you.

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Comment #25 posted by Hope on October 17, 2005 at 03:43:34 PT
It's wonderful, isn't it Toker00?
It's just wonderful.

Good morning to you.

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Comment #24 posted by Toker00 on October 17, 2005 at 03:37:06 PT
My Monday morning was pulling on me...
till I read Steve's posts! I was afraid of what I would here about him, but he popped out all bright and shiny! Welcome back, fellow vet. Legend.

Thanks for a Monday morning basher. It's gonna be a great day! Thank you, U.S. MARSHALS!

Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!

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Comment #23 posted by Hope on October 17, 2005 at 03:06:41 PT
It's the rare day when at five o'clock
in the morning, I'm excited. I'm very excited and happy for five o'clock in the morning.

I'm so happy he's ok.

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Comment #22 posted by Hope on October 17, 2005 at 03:04:03 PT
Steve...
I hope he's resting well. Surely he needs it.

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Comment #21 posted by Hope on October 16, 2005 at 23:07:52 PT
Steve!
I'm so thankful and so glad to see you posting.

Joy. That's what I feel at seeing your post.

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Comment #20 posted by E_Johnson on October 16, 2005 at 22:37:13 PT
Steve, what a huge relief
I'm glad things are finally working out for you. You've been a real hero.

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Comment #19 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on October 16, 2005 at 21:50:23 PT
Steve
I'm sorry for what they've put you through. I am glad to see you back and hope everything will turn out good for you. I can't believe how this country treats its people and veterans. Torcher sure is the right word for it too.

Keep well friend

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Comment #18 posted by goneposthole on October 16, 2005 at 21:42:05 PT
Steve made sploid, too
that's good, too.

http://www.sploid.com/news/2005/10/army_veteran_se.php

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Comment #17 posted by BGreen on October 16, 2005 at 20:47:07 PT
Steve!!!!!
I love you, Steve, and I've been praying for you.

There's nothing else I can do right now, but you're in my heart and I'm trying to lift you up in Spirit.

Our hearts are broken here at CNews. I know I'm not the only one who has shed tears for you and it's important for you to know that we care and love you.

Take care, my brother!

The Reverend Bud Green

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Comment #16 posted by FoM on October 16, 2005 at 20:46:53 PT
Steve
Thank you. I understand what you mean about the treatment of those who are incarcerated. I went to a voluntary re-hab years ago and I saw them kick a man out into the snowy night just before Christmas because his time was up. He was a model patient but he wasn't mentally right for lack of a better way of saying it. I went to the window and watched him walk out with a little paper bag in his hand and he didn't have anywhere to go. I will never forget it as long as I live. Why couldn't he stay where he was happy?

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Comment #15 posted by herbdoc215 on October 16, 2005 at 20:40:36 PT
FoM, good to be home! I am owe so much to you
this place wasn't ever far from my thoughts...I spoke to the other prisoners about youpeople several times...they kept asking where all the pressure was coming from and I had to tell them the story of cannabisnews and FoM in 2 part harmony ;) They said to tell yall that you are special and I'm luckiest guy in world with friends like you.. and I realized why we scare certain people...we are a bundle of sticks/unbreakable together...so many of them boys longed to have ANYONE speak up for them. I got me a new job now as there are people in there soooo much worse off then me...Veterns charged with having too much money crossing a border??? suffering like dogs wouldn't be allowed too, breaks my heart. thanks, peace, steve

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Comment #14 posted by FoM on October 16, 2005 at 20:34:27 PT
Steve
I'm giggly with joy for you. You sure made my day!

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Comment #13 posted by herbdoc215 on October 16, 2005 at 20:32:37 PT
By the way, please thank the US Marshals for me
if anybody gets the chance...I wouldn't be either alive or sitting here if it wasn't for the courage and compassion from US Marshals!!!! EVERYONE of them treated me with nothing but kindness!!! Don't anybody ever let me hear them bad mouth the US Marshals! Just thought you all should now this and that hope is born anew...they didn't have to go out of their way to sheild me...I'll explain later but just believe me that these are one class act people! Peace, Steve Tuck

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Comment #12 posted by FoM on October 16, 2005 at 20:28:57 PT
Oh Steve
All I can say is welcome home! It's so good to see you post again. You have been very much in our hearts while you were incarcerated. I'm so hopeful for a great life for you now.

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Comment #11 posted by herbdoc215 on October 16, 2005 at 20:18:41 PT
Hello everybody... sorry it's taking me so long
too stop in but I've been getting wooled around like a shoe in a doghouse:) I want to thank everyone from the bottom of my heart for the support you have given me so generously! Things are going unbelieveably well for me now. I just got a lot of medical problems from going doctorless in Vancouver so long...social medicine my ass? I am better now and in a good space. I'm on federal bond and am to turn myself into HumCo this week and fed charges are supposed to be dropped and then it's time to fight state charges tooth and nail like I should've in first place. I got a million things to tell yall and soon I'll fill yall in as there is a lot going on and it's all good...guess God had other plans for me? I love you all and will never forget this. Peace, steve tuck not in exile anymore:)

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Comment #10 posted by E_Johnson on October 16, 2005 at 19:25:18 PT
ekim good idea
But FYI -- the Chief of Police in Los Angeles is Bill Bratton.

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Comment #9 posted by ekim on October 16, 2005 at 18:53:24 PT
raef[[[[[[[[[[ is all ready behind Steve
http://www.marijuananews.com/ Amnesty International says the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights obliges Canada to refuse to send people to countries where they face serious risk of torture...

Steve told me in our first phone conversation after he was released: “We have a new cause, the medical abuse of prisoners. There are people in there in even worse shape than I am in and suffering even more pain, and they don’t have anyone who cares about them.”

Steve and all the other prisoners with medical problems have been subjected to torture as surely as if they had been in any medieval dungeon or modern third world hellhole. Indeed, torturers usually stop, but the untreated agony of injuries and illness never ends.

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Comment #8 posted by ekim on October 16, 2005 at 18:36:34 PT
whats this the Head Police man in LA
Bill Maher please have on Melissa and LA Police cheif Norm Stampler and have Todd McCormick Back on HBO to show what 5 years in prison is doing to too many.

blogs.salon.com/0002762/

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Comment #7 posted by FoM on October 16, 2005 at 18:35:30 PT
PainWithNoInsurance
Hopefully she will and yes both issues are personal and should be ok and shouldn't have any government interference.

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Comment #6 posted by westnyc on October 16, 2005 at 18:34:06 PT
Give me a break!!!
Mon Dieu! It is bewildering to me that this is an issue for a sick person. The real crime is that they should have to explain themself? I'm sorry but Stone Phillips should be questioning the ONDCP and the Supreme Court, not a self-medicating cancer sufferer. Famous or not!

The Beatles were before my time; and, that old song about starting a Revolution, is making alot of sense to me these days.



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Comment #5 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on October 16, 2005 at 18:32:19 PT
Mellissa
I think she should become a MMJ and a gay activist. Both issues are personal matters and have nothing to do with government. Why should government be in the business of personal matters?

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Comment #4 posted by FoM on October 16, 2005 at 18:24:11 PT
PainWithNoInsurance
She does look good and she seems really in control of her life. It was an excellent interview. Marijuana to the rescue one more time!

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Comment #3 posted by Hope on October 16, 2005 at 18:22:56 PT
Melissa
What a brave woman.

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Comment #2 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on October 16, 2005 at 18:19:47 PT
A Great Medicine
Mellissa looks good these days, and I'm glad she found a natural substance that helped her without all of the side effects that come with the unaffordable pharms.

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Comment #1 posted by FoM on October 16, 2005 at 18:06:53 PT
Thank You Melissa
And Dateline NBC!

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