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  NORML's Weekly News Bulletin -- November 5, 2003
Posted by CN Staff on November 05, 2003 at 17:39:35 PT
Weekly Press Release 
Source: NORML 

NORML Talk Show Host, MS Patient Montel Williams Cited For Medical Marijuana

November 5, 2003 - Detroit, MI, USA

Detroit, MI: Detroit Metropolitan Airport authorities fined syndicated talk show host Montel Williams $100 on Monday after he was found to be in possession of "marijuana paraphernalia," the Associated Press reported.

The AP story quotes a spokesman for Williams who maintains that the talk show host has a "prescription" for marijuana to treat symptoms of multiple sclerosis. The statement does not state where Williams received his "prescription," as US doctors are forbidden by federal law to prescribe marijuana medicinally.

Williams was diagnosed with MS in 1999.

NORML Foundation Executive Director Allen St. Pierre said that it was not surprising to learn that Williams uses medical marijuana. "According to a recent British survey, nearly one out of two MS patients use marijuana therapeutically," he said. "Seriously ill patients MS patients in particular have long known that marijuana provides symptomatic relief despite their elected officials alleging otherwise."

According to clinical findings recently published in the journal Brain, ingredients in marijuana provide both symptomatic relief and "slow down the neurodegenerative processes that ultimately lead to chronic disability in multiple sclerosis."

Previous clinical data published this spring in the journal Clinical Rehabilitation concluded that MS patients administered whole-plant marijuana extracts experienced improved pain relief, bladder control, and spasticity compared to placebo. The British government is expected to legalize the medicinal use of marijuana extracts (under the trade name Sativex) later this year.

For more information, please contact either Allen St. Pierre or Paul Armentano of The NORML Foundation at (202) 483-8751.

DL: http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5813

Talk Show Host Fined For Drug Paraphernalia
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17732.shtml


Canada: Parliament Likely To Adjourn Without Passing Pot Decrim Bill

November 5, 2003 - Ottawa, ON, Canada

Ottawa, ON: Parliament will likely adjourn next week without approving legislation that would make marijuana possession a fine-only offense, CTV News and the Canadian Press have reported. The bill (C-38), which seeks to reduce penalties on the possession and use of up to 15 grams (about half an ounce) of marijuana and/or one gram of cannabis resin to a ticketable offense, has languished in the House of Commons since May despite being backed by Justice Minister Martin Cauchon and Prime Minister Jean Chretien.

Chretien is stepping down as Prime Minister at the end of the year, and it is unknown whether incoming PM Paul Martin will spearhead similar legislation.

Two Parliamentary select committees had previously endorsed liberalizing Canada's pot laws. A Senate report called for the legalization and regulation of marijuana to those 16 years and older, while the House recommended Parliament decriminalize the possession and cultivation of marijuana for personal use by adults.

NORML Foundation Executive Director Allen St. Pierre called Parliament's failure to move C-38 disappointing. "Both the Senate and House select committees determined that criminal consequences for the possession of marijuana by adults are disproportionate to any potential harms associated with the responsible use of the drug," he said. "It's a shame that Parliament would let 'Reefer Madness' overshadow their committees' recommendations and refuse to acknowledge the fact that greater harm is caused by marijuana prohibition than by marijuana itself."

For more information, please contact Allen St. Pierre of The NORML Foundation, at (202) 483-8751.

DL: http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5812

Cauchon Hopes Martin Will Resurrect Pot Bill
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17730.shtml

Mayor Opposes Proposed Pot Law
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17713.shtml


Presidential Candidates Fess Up To Prior Pot Use -- Dean And Edwards Admit Using Pot, But Would Do Little To Change Present Laws; Kucinich Calls For Decriminalization

November 5, 2003 - Boston, MA, USA

Boston, MA: Presidential candidates John Edwards (D-NC), John Kerry (D-MA) and former Vermont governor Howard Dean each admitted that they had previously smoked marijuana in response to an e-mailed question during last night's "America Rocks the Vote" debate, which aired live on CNN. Their responses drew a rousing ovation from the audience.

NORML Executive Director Keith Stroup said that the candidates' admissions illustrate the fact that millions of successful, hard-working Americans smoke pot recreationally, and that they should not be treated like criminals.

"The real question is not whether a candidate has smoked marijuana nearly half of the adult population, including many high ranking politicians such as former President Bill Clinton, Vice President Al Gore, and House Speaker Newt Gingrich admit that they have but whether or not that candidate believes that otherwise law abiding Americans should be arrested and jailed for engaging in the same behavior that they once did," Stroup said.

Among the three candidates who said they had smoked pot, none are on record in support of decriminalizing the possession of marijuana for adults, and only one Kerry has spoken firmly in support of the use of medicinal cannabis by seriously ill patients. Edwards has previously said that it would be "irresponsible" to demand the Justice Department cease arresting patients who use medical marijuana in compliance with state laws, while Dean vigorously opposed passage of a 2002 proposed Vermont law that would have legalized the use of marijuana for qualified patients.

Also speaking at last night's debate, Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich said that he had never tried marijuana, but added that if elected President, he'd "decriminalize it." Kucinich has previously promised to sign an executive order allowing for the medicinal use of marijuana, and is a strong critic of current Administration's "war" on drugs.

Candidates Wesley Clark, Al Sharpton and Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) also denied ever having smoked marijuana, while former Illinois Sen. Carol Mosley Braun declined to answer the question. Representative Dick Gephardt (D-MO) did not attend the debate.

For more information, please contact Keith Stroup of NORML at (202) 483-5500.

To learn more about the candidates' positions on marijuana-related issues, visit: http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5722

DL: http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5810

Source: NORML Foundation (DC)
Published: November 5, 2003
Copyright: 2003 NORML
Contact: norml@norml.org
Website: http://www.norml.org/

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Comment #28 posted by gloovins on November 08, 2003 at 12:19:25 PT
Found this @ the DEA site from March 11 2003
2. DEA Detroit Joins Forces with Montel Williams

Montel Williams brought his starpower to DEA when he co-hosted a FOX-TV hour-long special on methamphetamine in Detroit. High school students from the area discussed their observations about meth, addicts told of their horrific experiences with the drug, and law enforcement explained how we're working to stop trafficking of this highly addictive drug that is on the rise in small-town America.

--Get the full story at http://www.dea.gov/pubs/states/detroit.html

Wonder if they still will have a working relationship? I bet Montel justs sweeps this under the rug w/a nice expensive PR firm, just like Oprah did w/ her admitted crack use many years ago. Stand up you cowards, David Lee Roth too...all these celebs need to stand up and quit being quiet silent hypocrites. This is OUR government people. By and for WE THE PEOPLE...last time I checked celebs are people too...(and Governor-elects too -- WHO SMOKED ON CAMERA IN THE 70's in a movie that when recently re-released, he insisted it stay in) C'mon people SPEAK UP WAKE UP & be HEARD!

Woody Harelson & Willy Nelson, you can ignore this..

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Comment #27 posted by FoM on November 08, 2003 at 11:24:32 PT
Virgil
I was disappointed. That 70s Show is shown in many different countries. Some countries thought the US was liberal with pot laws because of That 70s Show. That's why the smoking scenes are important.

I don't watch much tv even though I have it on all day. In the evening I'm always on the Discovery channel or one of them. I like shows about nature.

Steak and butter! Sounds like it was good. I don't like meat anymore but I've had a few good steaks in my life too.

Glad Jay Leno did a skit on Montel. We need publicity.

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Comment #26 posted by Virgil on November 08, 2003 at 11:13:37 PT
The 70's Show and Leno last night
That is good news. I usually watch tv and computer at the same time. That is good news because I would have given up watching it if they were going to go PC. It would take to smoking scenes every show to please me, but I glad they did not discust me. They are a little slack on the munchie scene though. I remember having a steak fried in butter for the first time in the 70's- best tasting experience I ever had.

Last night on Leno, they did a skit on the Montel experience at the airport. They zoomed in over an office partition with an official holding up a baggie of about an OZ of MJ. They zoomed in past a bald head to focus on the baggie as the official asked what it was. Then they turned back the other way to show the front side of the bald head as the official asked,"What is your name." It was the band leader, Kevin, that was grinning as he said "Montel Williams" knowing all pot smokers look alike. Pretty funny.



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Comment #25 posted by FoM on November 08, 2003 at 10:18:33 PT
Virgil, My Comment 9
I was angry with the 70s show but I taped the last episode and they had a smoking scene and I must have missed it so I'm not angry with them anymore. I hope they don't throw them out of the show.

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Comment #24 posted by FoM on November 07, 2003 at 08:55:11 PT
News Article from Snipped Source
Police Fail To Find Drugs in Stratford High Raid

Friday, November 7, 2003

GOOSE CREEK--Reports of drug deals at Stratford High School led to an early-morning police raid this week in which about 15 officers cordoned off the main hallway to search for marijuana. Several drew their guns but did not use force, police said.

Officers did not arrest anyone during the lockdown at 6:40 a.m. Wednesday.

A police dog sniffed residue on 12 book bags but found no drugs, said Lt. Dave Aarons of the Goose Creek Police Department.

"Several officers did unholster their weapons in a tactical law enforcement approach," he said. "There was no force whatsoever. Everyone was very compliant."

Officers charged a ninth-grader Wednesday afternoon with filing a false police report.

The juvenile said an officer shoved her to the ground during the search, Aarons said. Principal George McCrackin said he, other school officials and the girl's parent reviewed video surveillance tapes and determined she wasn't even in that hall at the time.

McCrackin went to Aarons on Monday with suspicions about marijuana exchanges at the school, based on camera recordings and reports from students and teachers.

"Within the last three weeks, there's been an influx of drug activity. I've been in this business for 34 years, and I've never seen the amount of activity we've experienced recently," said McCrackin, who has been principal at the school since it opened in 1983.

Several weeks ago, a student was arrested trying to pass out between 200 and 300 prescription pills, he said. After school ended Friday, one student threatened another and claimed to have a weapon.

"We're not going to tolerate it," McCrackin said. "We have to ensure the health and safety of our students and staff."Aarons said he watched school surveillance tapes from four days that showed students congregating under cameras, periodically walking into a bathroom with different students and coming out moments later.

The suspected group of about 10 students comes to school in early buses. Tapes show a network of lookouts, Aarons and McCrackin said.

"They're pretty knowledgeable in terms of where to stand. They know where the cameras are. If they stand directly under them, the cameras don't look directly down," Aarons said. "Faculty can view the students from other cameras, but from quite a distance away. They see silhouettes."

Fourteen officers and a police dog sealed off the main hallway Wednesday as about 20 administrators and teachers helped steer other students away, Aarons said. There were 107 students who happened to be in the hallway at the time, he added.

Snipped:

Complete Article: http://www.charleston.net/stories/110703/loc_07bust.shtml

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Comment #23 posted by jose melendez on November 07, 2003 at 08:23:57 PT
unction
from:

http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/unction

UNCTION Pronunciation: 'ungkshun

Matching Terms: Unctious

WordNet Dictionary Definition: [n] anointing as part of a religious ceremony or healing ritual [n] semisolid preparation (usually containing a medicine) applied externally as a remedy or for soothing an irritation [n] smug self-serving earnestness [n] excessive but superficial compliments given with affected charm Synonyms: balm, fulsomeness, fulsomeness, inunction, oiliness, ointment, oleaginousness, salve, smarm, smarminess, unctuousness, unguent See Also: anointing, anointment, arnica, baby oil, balsam, carron oil, cerate, chrism, chrisom, compliment, curative, cure, holy oil, hypocrisy, lanolin, lip balm, mentholated salve, mercurial ointment, religious ceremony, religious ritual, remedy, sacramental oil, wool fat, wool grease, zinc ointment

Webster's 1913 Dictionary Definition: \Unc"tion\, n. [OE. unccioun, uncioun, OF. oncion, onction, F. onction, fr. L. unctio, fr. ungere, unctum, to anoint. See {Unguent}.] 1. The act of anointing, smearing, or rubbing with an unguent, oil, or ointment, especially for medical purposes, or as a symbol of consecration; as, mercurial unction.

To be heir, and to be king By sacred unction, thy deserved right. --Milton.

2. That which is used for anointing; an unguent; an ointment; hence, anything soothing or lenitive.

The king himself the sacred unction made. --Dryden.

Lay not that flattering unction to your soul. --Shak.

3. Divine or sanctifying grace. [R.]

4. That quality in language, address, or the like, which excites emotion; especially, strong devotion; religious fervor and tenderness; sometimes, a simulated, factitious, or unnatural fervor.

The delightful equivoque and unction of the passage in Farquhar. --Hazlitt.

The mention of thy glory Is unction to the breast. --Neale (Rhythm of St. Bernard).

{Extreme unction} (R. C. Ch. & Gr. Ch.), the sacrament of anointing in the last hours; the application of consecrated oil by a priest to all the senses, that is, to eyes, ears, nostrils, etc., of a person when in danger of death from illness, -- done for remission of sins. [James v. 14, 15.]

see also:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05716a.htm

http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=extremeunction

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Comment #22 posted by FoM on November 06, 2003 at 19:03:50 PT
ekim
You're welcome and maybe someday Oprah will do a show on the drug war. She's touched on it but she hasn't hit on the impact and discussed a solution yet or not that I've seen. We have to hope she will.

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Comment #21 posted by The GCW on November 06, 2003 at 18:35:41 PT
420X100000OOo0Ooo0oOo
The following is excerpts from The Assembly of the Church of the Universe’s CHURCH MANDATE, http://www.iamm.com/man-cu.htm The true initiation was much more than water. The Gospel of Philip records that: "The anointing (chrisma) is superior to baptism. For from the anointing we were called 'anointed ones' (Christians), not because of the baptism. And Christ also was (so) named because of the anointing, for the Father anointed the son, and the son anointed the apostles, and the apostles anointed us. [And if] one receives this unction this person is no longer a Christian but a Christ.” (NO LONGER A CHRISTIAN BUT A CHRIST!!!) http://www.iamm.com/man-cu.htm (1/4 the way down) “The ointment is the mercy of the Father those whom he has anointed are the ones who have become perfect" (THOSE WHOM HE HAS ANOINTED ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE BECOME PERFECT) “…the placebo water baptism…”

Involved in this process were three Baptisms: The Baptism of Water, the Baptism of Fire, and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, "and thereafter the Mystery of the Spiritual Chrism [i.e. anointing]" (Mead 1900) or ³Mystery of the Withdrawing the Evil of the Rulers,² as Jesus also calls it. (MYSTERY OF THE WITHDRAWING THE EVIL OF THE RULERS) immanence

Seth comments that tyranny will prevail “until the moment when the true man, within a modeled form, reveals the existence of truth, which the father has sent: Then he will teach them about everything: And he will anoint them with the unction of life eternal, given him from the undominated generation. Then they will be freed of blind thought: And they will trample underfoot death, which is of the authorities: And they will ascend into the limitless light.” - THE REDISCOVERY OF GNOSTIC TEXTS Curiously, the rediscovery of the ancient Gnostic teachings in our own century has also coincided with the widespread reintroduction into the typically Christian West of the ancient entheogenic sacraments the Gnostics used, particularly cannabis.

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Comment #20 posted by ekim on November 06, 2003 at 18:08:21 PT
Thanks FoM and GCW
I hope Oprah will be the strong woman millions look to for information. If she will only show the human side of this drug war on the people -- have Dr Russo, Montel, and anyother human that is being help by this God given plant. It would be the biggest watched show in her history. As the FDA moves to outlaw RX-depot and stoping Canada from selling meds to US. I heard a little bit of the well known author from India on the Diane Rehm radio show last week. He was talking about coincidences how valuable the conection is for the person to make. Right now there are storys conected with this great plant from all over the planet. We must make the effort to conect the dots.

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Comment #19 posted by jose melendez on November 06, 2003 at 14:23:02 PT
Pardoned: fraud, weapons, gambling. Just not pot.
from:

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAO8CPAPMD.html

The pardons announced Thursday were:

-Brianna Lee Harvey of Kamloops, British Columbia, who was convicted in 1991 of failure to report monetary instruments in Washington state. She was sentenced to 4 1/2 months of community confinement and two years of supervised release.

-David Custer Heaston of Las Vegas. He was convicted in 1988 of making a false statement and sentenced to three years' probation and fined $1,000.

-Bruce Louis Bartos of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., who was convicted in 1987 of transporting a machine gun in foreign commerce. He was sentenced to two years' probation.

-Michael Robert Moelter of Jim Falls, Wis., who was convicted in 1988 of running an illegal gambling business. He was sentenced to three years' probation, 60 days in a treatment center and fined $5,000.

President Clinton left office nearly three years ago after a spurt of last-minute pardons, including one for fugitive financier Marc Rich, the ex-husband of Democratic donor Denise Rich. Bush's father left office after pardoning former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger and five other Iran-Contra figures.

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Comment #18 posted by TecHnoCult on November 06, 2003 at 10:57:52 PT
Dr. Russo
You probably have already found this, but you can send him an email on this site:

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Comment #17 posted by sukoi on November 06, 2003 at 07:43:39 PT
A small national poll
For Virgil (comment #7)

http://www.americasdebate.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1474

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Comment #16 posted by goneposthole on November 06, 2003 at 07:17:11 PT
pulling the sheep over your eyes
Cannabis is not what the government thinks it is. Irrational discourse prevails over cannabis. Nobody takes it seriously, nor treats it seriously. A sorry state of confusion, and wacky ideas don't do it any justice. Blame complacency and ignorance.

Anyone who has ever tried it has died instantly. No known survivors to date. If you try it just once, you will surely die. I've done it many times. I have tried cannabis, died and gone to heaven. You're in for a helluva lot of fun and frolic when you use cannabis. Just like heaven of earth... enjoy your day... on earth and in heaven. But don't take my word for it, you'll have to try it yourself.

Don't let ignorance bring you down. All of the fussin' and fightin' just ain't necessary. shine on.

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Comment #15 posted by Ethan Russo MD on November 06, 2003 at 06:32:46 PT:

Montel
If anyone is succesful in contacting him, would you please let me know? I would like to send him material on cannabis and MS.

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Comment #14 posted by kaptinemo on November 06, 2003 at 05:12:45 PT:

My email to Montel
This is the link page to email him; you must get a 'subscription' to his newsletter, first.

http://interactive.paramount.com/montel/mail.jsp

Mr. Williams,

No doubt you have received many emails since the disclosure of your detention in Detroit for possession of medicinal cannabis; this is one more in support of your usage.

I have seen first hand the effectiveness of medicinal cannabis in alleviating the symptoms of many different diseases. I have also (helplessly) watched the agony undergone by those who have experienced chemotherapy without having legal access to medicinal cannabis.

As you are quite well aware, the laws of the United States with regards to cannabis are Draconian, to say the least. But are you aware of the *racist origins* of the present drug laws? Namely, that they are and always have been aimed at people of color, for the specific purpose of oppressing them?

I am not speaking rhetorically, here: I direct your staff's attention to the following links:

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/index.HTM

and especially:

The History of the Non-Medical Use of Drugs in the United States by Charles Whitebread, Professor of Law, USC Law School A Speech to the California Judges Association 1995 annual conference http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/History/whiteb1.htm

There is much more than this to review, but the history of anti-drug laws in this country makes it quite clear that they were - and ARE - aimed at oppression of minorities. And the present Drug Czar John P. Walters is only the latest supporter of this policy.

Might I suggest a program in which you, Mr. Williams, confront Mr. Walters with the whole sordid history of drug laws in this country? Particularly in light of Mr. Walter's latest expounding that cannabis has NO medical uses?

Respectfully yours, (Me)

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Comment #13 posted by kaptinemo on November 06, 2003 at 04:24:48 PT:

Montel: And our next guest is ...Johnny Pee
Now, wouldn't that be something?

I'm not much of a watcher of commercial TV anymore, for reasons some here have alraedy mentioned: namely, the social engineering that's being done by corporations bowing to Reich Wing pressure groups and censoring TV show contents.

But you can bet your month's paycheck and lose that I'd wouldn't find a way to watch a Montel show in which Johnny Pee was invited on to tell Montel and the millions of people who watch him religiously and also use cannabis medicinally that Montel is a criminal for using an herb to ameliorate his and their medical conditions.

That that aforementioned herb has no medical uses, and that Montel should stick to the pills that are oh-so-safe-and-effective.

That Montel and millions of others don't have a right to decide what goes into THEIR bodies, but the US Guvmint *does*. That Johnny Pee supports a system that handcuffs helpless paraplegics while it engages in raids to steal life-supporting medicine, that destroys families, careers, jobs, and in the case of Chastity Bowers, Alberto Sepulveda and Esequiel Hernandez, KILLS CHILDREN in order to 'save' them from the scourge of a plant that has no toxicity level.

This would be a real headbanger of a show, and I'd happily pay real money to see Montel slam Johnny Pee for the insanity of cannabis prohibition.

Mr. Williams, you have a chance to really put your money where your mouth is. Are you up to it?



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Comment #12 posted by jose melendez on November 06, 2003 at 01:44:38 PT
arrest prohibition
from:

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5805

"The criminal status of ganja poses a serious danger to society. By alienating and criminalising hundreds of thousands of otherwise law-abiding citizens, and by making the State in their view an instrument of their oppression rather than their protection, the law and its prosecution create in them disrespect for the rule of law."

- conclusion of The Jamaican National Commission on Ganja

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Comment #11 posted by The GCW on November 05, 2003 at 21:22:34 PT
ekim
You asked: What can be done to get the Guys from Hawaii that post here together.

The GCW = I think they already know each other... is that what Your asking?

You stated: I would like to know more about what is being done in the name of religon and personel soul matters.

Check out: http://www.drugpolicycentral.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=16&sid=76f907fda535568cb98dad14625cd735 which is / or was the Christians for Cannabis forum.

The Christians for Cannabis website may be of help at: http://www.christiansforcannabis.com/

You ask: Has pot tv had a show on this subject?

The GCW = Yes, I haven't been there in a while... but check out the Burning Shiva Hour with Chris Bennett... There is much...



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Comment #10 posted by Virgil on November 05, 2003 at 20:56:12 PT
Frontline has "The Alternative Fix" on Thursd
Tomorrow night Frontline will explore alternative medicine- http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/altmed/

Frontline has a proud tradition and it also has 25 of its past programs available in streaming video. One that many people might want to see is 4 hours of video on "DrugWars"- http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/

Frontline does not do Fantasyland.

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Comment #9 posted by FoM on November 05, 2003 at 19:55:57 PT
Virgil
Yes I know the 70s show hasn't had any smoking scenes since it's fall shows started. I will give them a few more shows and then will write because the smoking scenes are what made the 70s show funny! They can't eliminate Tommy Chong and the smoking scenes too. It won't be a 70s show then anymore!

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Comment #8 posted by FoM on November 05, 2003 at 19:51:04 PT
ekim
I want to try to say how I personally feel about faith and religion. I have been a Sunday school teacher, youth leader, senior citizen volunteer where we went to a nursing home on Sunday instead of Church services. I was raised as a Catholic and went to Catholic school all but one year when I went to public school. I didn't like public school and returned to Catholic School. In Catholic school we had a class on religion and it was my favorite next to Botany. I was the student who always asked the teacher why. Why this and why that. I drove a few of the Nuns and Priests a little crazy but they liked me and I liked them. If they said it's a mystery I said I won't accept that as an answer. I can relate to George Carlin. He went to Catholic school too! It twists your mind to say the least. I have been a Jehovah's Witness for a short time and quit. I've been the same denomination as John Ashcroft so I do understand why he used crisco to anoint himself. Religions are groups of people who believe a certain way and then usually when a church gets big infighting starts and then the church splits and more churches and doctrines develop. I look at a Church and now think of it as a place where like minded people share their faith and help each other when there is a need. It's a place where people feel safe. It's a good thing too. I believe many Churches have people who believe like others in their congregation but believe Cannabis isn't wrong but never say a word. I wish that people who are in that frame of mind would go to their Pastor and be honest and tell him why and maybe the churches would start to understand. That's how I look at faith and Cannabis. I no longer belong to any Church and have more peace of mind now then ever but I appreciate the knowledge I learned in my church years. I hope this makes sense.

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Comment #7 posted by Virgil on November 05, 2003 at 19:34:07 PT
Where are the polls?
The 80% figure that we use to express those that support MMJ comes from the CNN/Time poll from October 23-24,2002- http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5550 I might put up the NORML weekly newsletter too.

Now why have we not heard of another poll after a year of void? Probably the same reason The 70's Show has not had any smoke in the two new episodes this season. People's thoughts are being herded and it will be great when the lemmings hit the ground. Fantacyland karma is in freefall and that sudden stop is going to hurt.

RC had an informative piece on MMJ that addressed the broad issues and how the government suppressed the cancer prevention reports from 1974 for 30 years. I think I will put it up at the general discussion section at DU. I never have done that before- http://www.marijuananews.com/news.php3?sid=717

It is not correct to say the government does not care if you live or die. It is more correct to say they do not care if you die.

You cannot even watch the CMA awards without seeing the government indebt the children to demonize marijuana and in pitiful fashion at that. Well, at least it is not another pill company add with all that fast talk at the end warning you of known dangers that even their own lawyers won't deny.

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Comment #6 posted by ekim on November 05, 2003 at 19:31:43 PT
i do want to enclude the Rastas
I did read not long ago that they have been granted the right to believe as they see fit.

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Comment #5 posted by ekim on November 05, 2003 at 19:25:20 PT
GCW how can you get a meeting together
You are most informed in the ways of the Bible. What can be done to get the Guys from Hawaii that post here together. I have tried to read the pages they have posted here but my pc says not able to locate page. I would like to know more about what is being done in the name of religon and personel soul matters. Has pot tv had a show on this subject. I wonder why i never read any storys on this issue. I hope Norml does a review for us to read as to what has happen over say the last 10 years. Compaired with other countries.

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Comment #4 posted by The GCW on November 05, 2003 at 19:14:50 PT
What comes out of Walters' mouth,
defiles Our Father.

Christ God Our Father, says:

Genesis 1

The Creation

11 Then God said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them"; and it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good.

29 Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30 and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food"; and it was so. -(The 1st page)

31 God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very (39) good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day. -(the 2nd page in mine...)

http://www.biblegateway.org/bible?passage=GEN+1&language=english&version=NASB

Walters', defiled mouth indicates: that is an error.

Do I detect Lucifer's rebellion?



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Comment #3 posted by ekim on November 05, 2003 at 19:11:41 PT
Duzt email your suggestion to Drug Policy
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Comment #2 posted by Duzt on November 05, 2003 at 18:54:17 PT
Ad campaign
I think it would be interesting to see billboards with ads showing pictures of famous medical cannabis patients (and other patients as well) with quotes from john walters and his group. If people linked a picture of gramma and Montel with a quote from Walters saying that medical cannabis is the same as medical crack or one of his comments that we are irresponsible or terrorists or pretty much anything that comes out of Walters mouth, people would see the craziness better. I think a lot of people don't hear or read the things he says, we do because we look for it, but most people don't know who he is. We need to make them responsible for what they say and start putting a face on medical cannabis.

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Comment #1 posted by The GCW on November 05, 2003 at 18:09:45 PT
Montel Williams
There are so many holes in the dam, it's baffling.

You never know when the damn dam is going to fall or who it is going to fall on.

But it is coming down!

Might as well allow Montel, to pull the plug, err, uh, Bushes nose, out of the hole.

I hope brother Bush has gills.

420X10000Oo0Ooo

It is always a good time to check in with Our Father.

Now is always good.

As We confront the brothers amongst Us that don't get it, don't argue Our case with them alone;

“… let us argue our case together;…” (with) -The Lord -Isaiah 43:26

Forgive Us for Our sins Father. Thank You for Our blessings. Help Us do Your will.

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