That way, there'll be fewer drug warriors after they crash.

FOM, I am breathlessly waiting for a clue ...

You must have known I would notice ...

You must be breathlessly waiting, too

ON A MISSION FOR DOPE: HELICOPTER CREWS GET TRAINING IN ANTIDRUG FLIGHTS Five times now, Marine Corps Staff Sgt. Alan Proctor has volunteered for duty flying in helicopters looking for marijuana.

That would be four times in the Pacific Northwest and once in the Caribbean. And the latter, Proctor is quick to point out, is not particularly cushy duty.

"The people don't like having us there," said Proctor. "Here they have a few plants on a hillside. There they have entire plantations. Here you have to go looking for the plants. There, all you have to do is look down. The first time I went on a flight I was thinking, 'What are they doing with all these Christmas trees?'''

For several weeks, Proctor and 53 colleagues from a Marine Corps helicopter squadron based in Camp Pendleton, Calif., have been hauling law officers as they look for the "Christmas trees" that are grown to be smoked, not decorated. Last week, authorities destroyed a 6,000- plant Klickitat County pot plot that had been spotted earlier with the help of the Marine Corps unit.

Flights winding down

That operation was on state Department of Natural Resources land. Flights have been conducted over the Columbia River Gorge National Scenic Area and Gifford Pinchot and Mount Hood national forests and are winding down. The Klickitat project was the only marijuana operation spotted on this side of the Columbia.

Tuesday, officials orchestrated a media event at the Portland Air Base, trundling out Marine Corps personnel against a backdrop of four 1970s-vintage UH-1N Huey and AH-1W Cobra helicopters used in the recent flights.

Christine Lynch, a Gifford Pinchot law officer, said it has been years since military antidrug flights have been made over the forest. Officials asked for help six months ago.

"What we're trying to do is make a dent in the production," she said. "But we have limited resources, and the fire season occurs at the same time as the peak ( marijuana ) growing season."

While it is not possible to know how much pot is being cultivated on or near the forest, Lynch said it appears that enforcement efforts have at least reduced the size of illegal operations.

"In the past we would see huge tracts, and now they are much smaller," she said.

The missions are part of Joint Task Force Six, formed at Fort Bliss, Texas, under the order of then-Gen. Colin Powell in 1989.

Not all requests filled

Task force spokesman Armando Carrasco said all flights are at the request of law enforcement agencies, and that only half the requests can be filled.

Military personnel are too busy flying the helicopters to do any pot spotting. That work is left to law officers who go along on every flight.

"We're just a platform," said mission commander Maj. Rob Russell, a reservist who flies a Saab passenger plane out of Los Angeles International Airport when he's not on Marine Corps duty.

Cruising the national forest hillsides during a typical two-hour mission provides mountain terrain training that could be useful in combat situations, said Russell. With that, "we both get what we need flying the aircraft."

Given the age of the machines, some of which date to the Vietnam War era, task force missions can be first-rate training for maintenance workers as well. "I'm only two years older than the airplane," said Proctor, 31.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MAP posted-by: Larry Stevens Pubdate: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 Source: Columbian, The (WA) Copyright: 2002 The Columbian Publishing Co. Contact: letters@columbian.com Website: http://www.columbian.com/ Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/92 Author: Thomas Ryll

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I have some Dylan albums on vinyl too. "How many roads must a man walk down before they call him a man. How many seas must a white dove sail before she sleeps in the sand. How many times must the cannonballs fly before their forever banned. The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind. The answer is blowin' in the wind. How many years can a mountain exist before it is washed to the sea. How many years can some people exist before their allowed to be free. How many times can a man turn his head and pretend that he just doesn't see. The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind. The answer is blowin' in the wind."

Dear Friends,

I just received a call from Sister Somayah Kambui's neighbor. At sundown, a number of unmarked vehicles descended on Somayayh's home, cut down her plants, and arrested her and her brother. She only had time to shout my phone number to her neighbor. The neighbor did not recognize the officers as LAPD. She did say that several looked like local bicycle cops, but Somaya was taken away in an unamrked car by unmarked persons. We are trying to find out now, who has her and where she has been taken.

Given her recent Proposition 215 acquittal, it is likely that the feds have her.

Scott Imler

May be outdated...Sister Somayah, LA: 323-232-0935

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It is like me before I started reading articles here. Between 2 papers I probably read 365 newspapers a year and never thought that states had MMJ laws. The subject was completely repressed. The net has changed me and many others. I might shake my left fist at the MJ laws, but my right fist is shaken more often and with more fury at the media. I just say to people that things are much more screwed up than you think and that if you dropped your newspaper and got your news from the net, you would come to a new reality.

No. The changes are coming. You talk of the reform of the 70's. Reform went to legalization in Oregon and who knows where else and medical marijuana laws came to North Carolina and who knows where else. It is only when all the drug testing started that I noticed any difference, because no one really ever got busted for pot that I knew. I remember going to see Alabama at the Charlotte Coliseum and smoking the whole time. The repression and the arrest and the property confiscations did not happen like they do in the police state the fascist have tried to entrench.

The pendulum swung so far to the right it hit the outside wall. It is going to move back to center and I say then some. When people hear that Europeans can grow cannabis and we can't, that will change reality for many in a hurry. The children are going to be going to Europe and Canada and Jamaica. If I go on vacation it will be in Canada and when people ask I will tell them. The least that will happen in Canada is decriminalization and it will have to move to legalization soon after that as it is the only Logical Conclusion.

Things are different than they were 30 years ago and the folly of this President with the Republicans in Congress saying he is wonderful, will do him and fundamentalist in when people find out he is not so wonderful. I say sweeping change is called for and sweeping change is coming. No group, no matter how powerful can stop the reasoning that is going to lead to change.

I cannot watch one Elizabeth Dole ad on television without outrage. It would not make any difference who is beside me, there is another blast a Republican hack coming. It is changing faster than you think, although it could never come fast enough. I did not have the outrage or contempt I have now back in the 70's.

The fight is on and the Republicans are so desperate to keep people from talking about the domestic issues, they have told the media to talk of war. I get it. They are going to bomb Iraq. I am not distracted and when people raise the issue, I know plenty to say when they grow silent. Change is coming and the one thing an informed reformer can do is slap the ignorant and brainwashed with the truth. It might not change their simple mind, but they will know they got slapped and if they don't want to get slapped again, they at least better shut up.

You tell me someone we called a liar in any cabinet position in the last 30 years. Well they laid liar on Walters in SF and I lay it on him before anyone says anything. I know damned well that is one huge liar and it ends right there with me. To let him parade around the country lying for the administration discredits all of government. You can say he is an honorable member of the cabinet and I will tell you that you don't know what your talking about to your face and I would tell it to his face if he tried talking to me. He is a liar and I do not want to hear any of his words. You just do not listen to a liar and if one does not believe it now, their lesson is coming.

Ashcroft had to be told to shut up because he was making a fool of the fundamentalist. Hutchinson got shot down by a Senator saying he cannot go around using taxpayer money to fight voter iniatives. What he violated did not go away and the explanation of why there is no prosecution of these violations is still open. No. It is about to blow up.

When people say Busch is 60% favorable I say it shows a big ignorance factor and people back off because they know they know nothing. And you know my first comment. He is a complete dickhead and I can defend that position quite well. Change is coming and I will leave it at that.

Prophits are appointed. Profits are real. And tend to over ride truth. Until it becomes obvious. As I think it maybe finally coming with cannabis. At least on the sick and dying using and in some "mainstream" circles, so is hemp. But don't count on the masses being enlightened, regardless of age. Money will stiffen the necks to Truth. And a version of Princes song can be found in Dylan's lyrics concerning the double double u eleven generation and in their Woody Guthry antifascist songs and anti beer prohibition lyrics of their parents on back to the first cave stoners.

Every "movement" tiring of oppression finds cannabis, has a revolution, gains power and proceeds to keep the masses sheople by banning it again. The past century every 30 years people would get fed up, get stoned, create a new controversial music and change the laws. The 30's labor movement, jazz and swing or the 60's civil rights with Dylan and Baez then women and gays riding the Vietnam shirtales leaving cannabis behind after each got their own goals satisfied. Same in the 90's with grunge, hiphop or Prince until now.

The only significant difference is the internet, since most mainstream won't buy cannabis culture or hightimes. Or won't see the SC Metro unless Map or FoM collect them. But once the money enters all ages are corrupted. Especially if you have kids and need the job. Or have a business selling alternatives to cannabis. Or growing at $hundreds an oz. Time will wear your generations energy the same as it could never wear mine down, but did. I know few who are settled, willing to sacrafice their comfort zones to promote an unpopular cause, let alone one such as cannabis. Thats sure to put you in the unfavored status quickly. And few have sacraficed as much as Valerie. This is her third bust. Her farm is at stake and the Feds hold it all over her head like a Chinese water torture. The scruples of Big Business is unfolding as the myth many have been saying all along. Being in the business of Government has no bearing on scruples either. Ends justifying means continues. Deals are made and WoD is advertized and sold, taxed and continuous reminders of the danger delivered to supper tables via the so called Media.

Obviously tensil strength isn't debatable. Its a machine testing it. Protein, same thing, standard. Is it a fuel, only if it can move a car, as it can. Strong as wood? Test it. Organic? Unless someone treats the wild ditchweed I'd say so. Is cotton? Not hard to find that out. Is it dangerous, where's the victims? Tests? Is it medicinal, ask the patients that want to try it. Ask the patients the government rolls joints for. Check the hundreds of Universities and Scientist reports from Costa Rico to Israel to Spain to England to Australia to U.C.L.A. Not a very expensive undertaking. Won't be close to the cost of the Starr Search withchunt.

Constitutional Rights? Like a first year Law Student can't see any abuses? Or med student. Its so damn blatently obvious no rational mind can possibly think cannabis prohibition has anything to do with saving kids or the health of low life junkies. Its the money and since Rosy made DC a Shopping Mall/Whorehouse the States lose to stats and Market Indexes. Stock in the WoD still paying dividends to all generations. To stop WoD without a hot or cold war taking up slack could flucuate the world market. The prohibition profits from the white powders and inflated ganja has been laundered long ago into legitimate business, banks and industry and that is at stake. The crude oil cartels, the WTO and every corporation in competition to the food, fuel and fiber, booze, hardrug and Pharmaceutical alternative. So to maintain this dysfunction junction we go along, drinking our beers, watching our Dosage of Football and Simpsons desensitize us to War and Nukes with casual nuggies of uranium floating around. Commercials blasting chemical sales in competition if legalized. It doesn't have to happen. We can transition to a natural alternative over time without massive violant confrontations. Up to now the violence has been one sided. Through D.E.A.th bullying abuses or Prohibitions violence. As more get slapped in the face with the Truth and can no longer lie with a straight face more will come out and challenge the status quo. Vietnam ended in 75. Long after the antiwar movement faded.

Peace, Love and Liberty or D.E.A.th... DdC

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The article says: "The question is, what power gives the feds the right to deny marijuana to people who've been legally prescribed it and who are getting it in an exchange within one county where no money is involved?"

That is fine people and it certainly is at the center of a very monumental forces. And it in itself needs to be resolved.

But let's talk about the corruption that leads us to the situation. We have a president that says nothing. Nothing. What kind of situation are we in when our highest elected officers does not speak to the issues of what might rightly be called a civil war. One side of the coin is freedom and one side of the coin is corruption.

Where are the articles that talk of this? I want some Internet journalist to speak of the silence of the president and the lies of the black parrots. It is the duty of us all to rid the government of this corruption. How did we let this tyranny fear people to silence? Who is responsible for silencing the press? Who or what is going to bring it to the attention of the sound-bite watchers that the government is totally corrupt and the media are just propagandist for industry and the government they control.

Be serious people. This is no joke. If there were not hope from the outside, what leader is going to raise the big issue of blatant and outright discussion. The country is going backwards in a hurry. Sure a debt growing at $1.140 is hard to comprehend. But the entire expenditure of the state government of North Carolina is less than two weeks of that increase in debt. Now the NC debt has been estimated to be up another half a billion to 2 billion. They are borrowing against retirement funds because the money has to come from somewhere.

But the lies of Walters ruin all credibility for the government. The silence of Busch is yet another abomination that no media raises. If you have been at this website for 6 months and are not totally pissed off, you have a big problem with comprehension, delusional or both.

So, you say what would you do about the situation in California outside the courts since you are so brilliant. Well, I would thank you for the recognition and tell you. I would first establish the tradition of breaking bread and I do mean homemade hemp bread. There are zero % grains that even the DEA's corrupt rulings cannot block. See http://www.store.yahoo.com/hempnut/

Secondly, I say we should join hands. The concentration of 1000 people is traditional. The theater that is government needs to be matched by theater from the people. I say a thousand people side by side goes for one mile. If need be a line of people should make it their goal to stretch further and across the state of California if necessary. And until everyone figures out that the system is badly corrupted, I suggest using links of hemp rope to stretch the lines. A thousand people with 20 feet of hemp rope is five miles.

It would be one serious bumpersticker that said, it is your duty to fight the corruption of government. The system is not working for you now and will not work for your children either if it is not fought and fixed.

You will have to excuse me, for a know my Moderate Extremist expect me to be dutiful and speak to them. I will have a bumpersticker tomorrow for anyone that sends in an order with the words, I am an Extremist. The words that beg for voice are these- What are you trying to do besides kill me?

Yes, you might think I would repeat the line- What are you trying to do, kill me. That is a question that offers an answer. We know the government does not care if people die or suffer. I offer my words as a professional bumpersticker . The words that need voice are- What are you trying to do besides kill me?

It addresses the issue of corruption when no one else will.

Parental Advisory:

We are the new power generation.

We wanna change the world.

The only thing that's in our way is you.

Your old fashioned music,

Your old ideas,

We're sick and tired of you tellin' us what to do.

Come writers and critics Who prophesize with your pen And keep your eyes wide The chance won't come again And don't speak too soon For the wheel's still in spin And there's no tellin' who That it's namin'. For the loser now Will be later to win For the times they are a-changin'.

Come senators, congressmen Please heed the call Don't stand in the doorway Don't block up the hall For he that gets hurt Will be he who has stalled There's a battle outside And it is ragin'. It'll soon shake your windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'.

Come mothers and fathers Throughout the land And don't criticize What you can't understand Your sons and your daughters Are beyond your command Your old road is Rapidly agin'. Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin'.

The line it is drawn The curse it is cast The slow one now Will later be fast As the present now Will later be past The order is Rapidly fadin'. And the first one now Will later be last For the times they are a-changin'.