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Posted by FoM on May 01, 2002 at 21:04:57 PT
By Andrea J. Cook, Journal Staff Writer 
Source: Rapid City Journal  

cannabis The parade permit is approved, and promotional literature has hit the halls and lockers of high schools in the region. The Million Marijuana March is scheduled to begin in front of Dakota Middle School in Rapid City at 4:20 p.m. Saturday, May 4.

School officials are distressed. There's not much they can do, however, except confiscate the literature as fast as it appears on school property.

"It's disturbing," Mike Butts, an assistant principal at Rapid City Central High School, said. A few flyers announcing the march were found on the floor at the school.

"I'm not sure how it came to happen," he said, referring to the march's starting point at Sixth and Columbus streets.

The Rapid City Police Department granted SoDakNORML a permit to conduct the march. Police Lt. Richard Gilbert said the group has a constitutional right to hold the march. "We can't abridge that right. We can only refuse (a parade permit) if there is a public-safety issue."

Gilbert said the march's organizers were asked to stay off school property.

Brad Tucker, principal at Dakota, says flyers have not surfaced at his school but that he did receive faxed copies from Hill City and Stevens high schools.

"It's scheduled on a Saturday, which is good," he said.

Literature announcing the march promotes it as an international event occurring in more than 160 cities to support reforming marijuana laws. SoDakNORML, an affiliate of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), is organizing the local march.

Bob Newland of Hermosa, SoDakNORML's president, said identifying the march with the school was not intentional.

"It has nothing to do with the school," he said. The school sits at the head of Sixth Street, which allows a convenient straight route for the march, according to Newland. The march concludes at Memorial Park, where a post-march concert/jam is scheduled, he said.

Newland said SoDakNORML advocates allowing U.S. farmers to produce hemp; allowing sick, disabled and dying people to use cannabis; and allowing people to ingest cannabis in their homes without being jailed or fined.

Pam Teaney-Thomas, the Rapid City School District's Safe and Drug Free Schools coordinator, says she doubts Newland's claim about the march's starting point. "If this was really a march for medical or agricultural, why wouldn't they be starting at a medical facility or an agricultural site?"

Youths today are getting a mixed message about the safety of marijuana, Teaney-Thomas said. When they perceive it has a medical benefit, it reduces their concern about its use. "They're using the kids just to get it legalized."

"Kids high school age feel strongly about standing up for rights," Butts agreed. "They perceive it as a legal issue."

Butts said he understands how students get involved when medical and industrial use of marijuana is promoted. "The literature I've seen says nothing about it being an illegal substance."

Newland said he was not concerned about students distributing advertising for the march. "High school students should be distributing literature about the Million Marijuana March. They're the people most at risk from the current insane governmental policies."

He said marijuana is more readily available to high school students than alcohol. Newland claims that legalizing marijuana would remove students from the risks associated with procuring the product.

"Current drug policy provides huge profits to those who dare to take the risks of providing cannabis to anyone who will purchase it. Since there is no governmental oversight, cannabis dealers — who often deal in other illicit drugs as well — are available all the time, everywhere."

Law enforcement officials disagree with Newland's assessment of marijuana use among juveniles. According to Sgt. Doug Thrash and Sgt. Deb Cady of the police department's drug unit, 10 times more juveniles are arrested for using alcohol than marijuana.

An event such as Saturday's march is a good time for parents to discuss drugs with their children, Teaney-Thomas said. "This is a perfect opportunity to check where they are at and what they're doing and why."

"People need to be aware that the issue and the people who are promoting this march are wolves in hemp clothing."

Source: Rapid City Journal (SD)
Author: Andrea J. Cook, Journal Staff Writer
Published: Wednesday, May 01, 2002
Copyright: 2002 The Rapid City Journal
Website: http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/
Contact: randy.rasmussen@rapidcityjournal.com

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Comment #30 posted by goneposthole on May 02, 2002 at 18:07:20 PT
Lovely Rita Thongmaid
"They told me to check for bongs and I thought they said 'thongs'."

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Comment #29 posted by wades on May 02, 2002 at 13:08:55 PT:

Would they care so much if...
Would this march be such a big deal for the school if it were, say, an AIDS advocacy event to stir up support for testing new AIDS medicines? I thought not. Why the double standard?

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Comment #28 posted by qqqq on May 02, 2002 at 12:21:31 PT
..it's too bad...
..I was kinda hopin' that this thong check would have caught on,,I had this plan to open up my own company,, ; ThongCheck Security Inc.,,, and I would be one of the only state certified thong checking contractors serving the Los Angeles and Orange County schools.... I could attend dances,and proms,,doing random thong checking,,and maybe even thong testing!... I know what you're thinking... I assure you that the only enjoyment I would get from lifting teenage girls skirts,,would be a healthy appreciation,,and be limited to only thong checking..No skirts would be raised longer than it took to examine for thongs..You gotta know what you're doing though if you're going to be an effective thong checker..Many of the young girls conceal thongs beneath innocent looking white underpants! ..A prudent thong checker may often find it necessary to remove the underpants to make certain that these young girls aren't trying to sneak into school with a concealed thong.

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Comment #27 posted by E_Johnson on May 02, 2002 at 12:04:18 PT
Now just imagine...
Now just imagine perverted morons like this vice principal being put in charge of urine testing of these kids.

Parents in this country have lost their minds if they trust the school system with urine testing.

Putting aside for a moment the question of whether there is a nonabusive use of urine testing, it is obvious that with all of the idiots and weirdos that the school system can't seem to get rid of (the salaries they pay have a lot to do with that) -- there will be many cases of sexual abuses of urine testing that will shock common sense and morality, just as this thong check incident shocks common sense and morality.



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Comment #26 posted by E_Johnson on May 02, 2002 at 12:00:06 PT
High school dance thong check story
On the radio this morning was a story about a teacher getting busted.....for checking girls thongs!?!?!?

THEY DO THONG CHECKS!?!?!?!?!?

This was an isolated incident and I imagine that several lawyers are going to have a nice incvome from this debacle in the near future from lawsuits aginst the idiot responsible. Here's the article: ****************************************************

Vice principal in California reportedly checked girls' underwear at dance

By Associated Press, 5/1/2002 07:29 POWAY, Calif. (AP) A female vice principal allegedly lifted girls' skirts in front of male students and adults to make sure they weren't wearing thong underwear at a dance.

''Everyone saw everything,'' said Kim Teal, whose 15-year-old daughter attended the dance but was not checked. ''It was a big peep show.''

School officials are interviewing students and staff before responding to parents who have called for the dismissal of the vice principal Rita Wilson at Rancho Bernardo High School, a district spokeswoman said Tuesday.

Students said they were told to line up outside the gym before entering the dance so Wilson could check their underwear. Those wearing thongs were turned away.

Wilson did not return phone calls seeking comment Tuesday. District spokeswoman Sharon Raffer wouldn't say why thong underwear would be prohibited at a school dance, but said that ''dress needs to be appropriate.''

''It's not their right to know what kind of underwear these kids have,'' parent Alane Garvik told television station KGTV in San Diego.

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Comment #25 posted by Sam Adams on May 02, 2002 at 11:13:43 PT
I love the tone...
that the Establishment types always use when "marijuana march" or demonstrations occur - always like it's to be dreaded, something dirty and embarrassing - "unlike some places, this is a DECENT town, we don't have that sort of thing here".

Of course, there's no "Billion Beer Brigade", or "Tobacco Rallies". It IS ridiculous that people have to schedule marches for a plant - and the ONLY reason it's necessary is stupid laws.

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Comment #24 posted by qqqq on May 02, 2002 at 10:31:53 PT
.............
..I kinda like to think of myself as a wolf,,who is wearing a cheap sheep disguise,,,,an ill fitting sheep costume that I got at a Goodwill thrift store,,,,an akward fitting item made of used seat covers,and coat linings....

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Comment #23 posted by kaptinemo on May 02, 2002 at 10:03:24 PT:

Wolves...and Judas Goats
In my life, I've done some travelling. And met many people. Not to mention animals. In 1976, I visited a huge wildlife preserve in Canada (Manitoba Province, I think) where they had all kinds of animals. Including wolves.

I was five feet away from a not very large specimen behind the wire. And despite the obvious fact it was ill, it still stood its' ground with an aura of calm, certain dignity and sense of self that I have retained the image in my mind to this day. (And yes, I know the dangers of anthropomorphizing an animal's attributes. But you look into their eyes, someday, and see if you aren't struck by the same thing.) It showed not the slightest inclination to look away, and matched me, cool stare for admiring one.

I didn't know much about the species before my encounter, but have learned much about them since. They are loving, devoted parents that share the responsibilities of raising the cubs...and for all their undeniable ferocity when on the hunt, they never kill anything they don't eat. Combined with their other attributes, if I had to choose what animal I'd be, I'd be a wolf, hands down, no arguments.

Whereas, I have nothing but contempt for a judas goat: Judas goat. Definition of Judas Goat: Sheep cannot readily be driven to slaughter but will follow a goat. A Judas goat is used to lead the sheep to the killing pens.. A Dictionary of Food and Nutrition, Oxford University Press, © A.E. Bender and D.A. Bender 1995

To my mind, the Teany-Thomases, the Beltons, the Semblers and all their ilk, are nought but Judas Goats. They guided the innocent into their 'treatment' pens and slaughtered that innocence with physical abuse and psychological torture...whilst their cash registers jingled with new coinage taken from concerned parents too cowardly to honestly discuss their own drug usage with their own children. It is the Judas Goats of the prohibitionists, who make such futtering noises about saving the children...while the policies of prohibition lead them to the dealer's door. And then they have the temerity to say that we caused the problem they howl so much about?

Call me a 'wolf'? I take it as a compliment...as I already know I'd prefer being a 'wolf' to being a Judas Goat, anyday.

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Comment #22 posted by schmeff on May 02, 2002 at 09:47:44 PT
Dumbing Down of America
Good points about the moral/ethical dumbing down of America, E.J.

I have long felt that one of the unintended consequences (oops! did I say unintended?) of the WOsD was an atrophied sense of personal responsibility. It has become completely acceptable to to shirk responsibility for one's actions. In politics, it has become an artform.

Pandora's Box is opened when we accept that the Government is empowered to protect us from harm-even harms we may willingly choose to inflict upon ourselves. The WOsD seems to lie almost solely on the premise that drugs are harmful and dangerous, thus they have been prohibited for our safety.

Are people then to conclude that everything not illegal is safe? (How many times have we heard the prohibitionists say that if "we" de-criminalize drugs it sends the message that the government condones drug use?) Once we accept that our Good Uncle will protect us we lower our vigilance towards protecting ourselves. Eventually, with enough laws to protect us from harming ourselves, we won't have to make any decisions at all.

In fact, making responsible decisions is actually discouraged. How else to explain that when you stick a hot cup of coffe in your crotch and scald your gonads, the coffee vendor is at fault. Or the bartender is to blame for your decision to drive drunk...but wait!!!...it was the poor parenting of the bartender's folks that caused him to serve you too many...but the parents were abused as children...

So we consume millions of tons of manufactured chemical concoctions secure in the knowledge that if they weren't safe, they wouldn't be legal. And we consume millions of tons of manufactured propaganda without question because it is coming from those who are "responsible".



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Comment #21 posted by dddd on May 02, 2002 at 09:41:10 PT
.....Hey.....
...I wonder why they dont have color coded alert levels for earthquakes?,,,and what about the children in our schools?,,shouldnt we also have a system to alert our kids about levels of Drug dangers?..Perhaps they should hire that madam Cleo tarot card skank,,and some horoscope experts.??...
..the whole thing is actually quite sad and embarassing,,to think that such raw ,utter idiocy exsists within our government,,and no one really seems to question it..Some poor Afghani peasant who was caught up in the insanity,and labeled "Al-Quieda",,and got flown to Cuba,,,,and goes through months of interrogations,and various tortures,,,,finally says something like,,"yes,,terrorists will attack shopping centers.".......
..All this alert level crap,,is the same as someone telling you that you might get in an auto accident today,,,or Elevated risk of getting struck by lightning..?Who are the bigger idiots;the government who comes up with this shit,,or the Sheeple who accept it?......dddd


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Comment #20 posted by schmeff on May 02, 2002 at 09:12:08 PT
Dear Miss Manners
I am confused about proper attire for the various color-coded security risk days. For a Dark Yellow terrorist day, is it sufficient to leave home with just my security cloak, or should I bring my nuclear umbrella?

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Comment #19 posted by Lehder on May 02, 2002 at 08:53:47 PT
terror update
An attack on the cheese factory has been averted.

Some of the men folk here decided that they're just not going to take it any more and have organized into a Citizen's Corps. We've been stopping cars along the road and conducting field interrogations of guys what don't look right. Two have been executed by a temporary tribunal: One swarthy fellow was in possession of a book called "Radiation and Health" or somethin', and the other had a sheaf of papers with strange notations on them and several hundred dollars cash that he could not explain. Several others are being held for further questioning, and one has been shipped to a nearby township where torture was recently legalized.

Two of the locals gave false negatives in the piss testing and they are being dealt with appropriately.

Our local TIPS (Terrorist Information and Prevention System) now involves one million volunteers in its pilot stage. http://www.citizencorps.gov/tips.html

The challenge here is huge, and much more needs to be done. But the foundation for a stronger, more secure cheese factory has been put in place. As always, the answer to threats against our freedom is more freedom, not less.

Thanks again for the 'heads up' buddy.

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Comment #18 posted by masscrusader on May 02, 2002 at 08:25:57 PT
Remember
That we are on the offensive and they are on the defensive. Truth is on our side. Truth prevails in hostory. Period. Give it time.

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Comment #17 posted by dddd on May 02, 2002 at 08:25:24 PT
I'm glad you liked the link Lehder
..If ya wanna have some real Orwellian Twilight Zone astonishment,,then you need look no further than the latest speech from your homeland security czar. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/04/20020429-3.html

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Comment #16 posted by idbsne1 on May 02, 2002 at 07:58:13 PT
And what the hell is this....???
"People need to be aware that the issue and the people who are promoting this march are wolves in hemp clothing."

So....to you prohibitionists.....is EVERY activist a "wolf in hemp clothing".. and is out for their personal agendas?...not one of us is legitimately fighting for these causes?

OR are you prohibitionists all self-righteous, hypocritical LIARS?

idbsne1

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Comment #15 posted by kaptinemo on May 02, 2002 at 07:52:20 PT:

'Dark yellow', eh?
Considering what bodily fluid is also 'dark yellow', I find the choice of the color scheme a sniggering spoof of what the Powers-That-Be think of the average American's intelligence.

After all, they are 'disseminating' this 'information' for the 'public good'. Sort of an electronic attempt to urinate in the faces of the public and 'call it rain'. (Harrumph) 'Dark yellow', indeed!

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Comment #14 posted by Lehder on May 02, 2002 at 07:51:51 PT
terror alert!
Thanks for the link, dddd. I'm making the homeland security terror level alert site my home page.

Even if the "elevated" alert level were to be reduced one notch, I see we would still be at the "guarded" level.

Obvious targets near me are a horse barn down the road and a coppice of oaks and saw mill on the other side. But I'm mostly concerned about a cheese factory just a few miles away. A nuclear attack on that facility would blast curds and irradiated whey all over; and around here we don't even want to think about what a bio attack on cheese might do.

The whole neighborhood is hunkering down for the day and taking voluntary piss tests for security reasons. Thanks again, logging out and battening down.

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Comment #13 posted by idbsne1 on May 02, 2002 at 07:50:55 PT
Morally confused is right EJ....
On the radio this morning was a story about a teacher getting busted.....for checking girls thongs!?!?!?

THEY DO THONG CHECKS!?!?!?!?!?

Yes folks.... they are monitoring our youths' underwear!?!?!?

Apparently, it wasn't the fact that she did the thong checks, but that there were male students who could see....

So, you high school students can give up your personal freedoms to corrupt, self-righteous hypocrites.....OR you can march and support your right to choose ANYTHING for YOURSELF....

idbsne1

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Comment #12 posted by dddd on May 02, 2002 at 07:28:50 PT
....Goneposthole...
..I'm glad you asked about the terror alert color...I was thinking about how I would plan my day,,and I had completly forgot about the threat of terrorism...so I went to the homeland security website,, http://www.whitehouse.gov/homeland/ ,,and boy was I glad I did!..We're talkin' Dark Yellow for today.The dark yellow means an "Elevated" risk of terror...I talked to my boss,and told him about the Elevated risk of terror,,and he told me to take the day off..................................lucky for me I'm self employedddd

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Comment #11 posted by goneposthole on May 02, 2002 at 07:04:57 PT
"...and another thing that really pisses me off.&
A great line from the movie "Wayne's World."

"And it's hello California, hello dad and mom, ship ahoy your baby boy is home from Viet Nam. Don't you ask me any questions about the medals on my chest. Take the star out of the window and let my conscience take a rest."-John Prine

"We got's to 'trains' these childrens to be obedient, so's they's cans fights a 'good' war for our freedoms (actually our pocketbooks, but don't tell thems that)."-from our so-called leaders who hide in caves and bunkers longer than the Taliban have been in existence

Have a great day...what color is the terror alert today? It's a permanent condition you know, hey.

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Comment #10 posted by Lehder on May 02, 2002 at 07:01:22 PT
on the move
"It's disturbing," Mike Butts, an assistant principal at Rapid City Central High School, said. A few flyers announcing the march were found on the floor at the school.

With the friendly visits by DARE officers to collect names of parents who smoke cannabis, demeaning mandatory piss tests, and walls plastered with drugs-are-dangerous posters, there's no shortage of discussion about drugs in American high schools. It's only a truthful discussion that Butts finds disturbing.

Some of those kids will not only read the literature but will march down the street on Saturday too. I find that refreshing.

You have a right to participate in that march, boys and girls. Go for it.

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Comment #9 posted by TroutMask on May 02, 2002 at 06:58:41 PT
Uh-oh...
Sorry, some discoveries must be posted...

From NYTimes:

"MEXICO: IF YOU CAN'T BEAT 'EM . . . The governors of four Mexican states bordering the United States are thinking about decriminalizing marijuana. The governor of Chihuahua, Patricio Martínez, said the idea arose because "what has been done to date hasn't worked, because drug consumption keeps rising, in spite of the wars waged against it." Much of the marijuana sold in the United States is grown in Mexico and trucked across the border. Tim Weiner (NYT)"

Gee, never woulda thought that would happen. this soon.

-TM

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Comment #8 posted by qqqq on May 02, 2002 at 06:08:33 PT
..Point...Counterpoint....
..."Pam Teaney-Thomas, the Rapid City School District's Safe and Drug Free Schools coordinator, says she doubts Newland's claim about the march's starting point. "If this was really a march for medical or agricultural, why wouldn't they be starting at a medical facility or an agricultural site?"

Youths today are getting a mixed message about the safety of marijuana, Teaney-Thomas said. When they perceive it has a medical benefit, it reduces their concern about its use. "They're using the kids just to get it legalized.".....


....Special Update.

In response to Pam Teaney-Thomas,,Fred Gorgo-Skagman,,the Crackton School Districts Free Drugs for Schools Coordinator,said,"..Yer dam right we started at the school you prissy anal retentive corpulent bitch!...We wanna get all the kids we can hooked on weed,so we can use them in our evil plan to conquer the world!..We wanna get all the kids we can doped up so we can trick the government into legalizing weed.Once all the kids are smokin' pot,then it will be legalized...Get the kids hooked,,and the adults will follow!"..
. The schools Bong Club participated in the march by operating a bong hit concession stand in the baseball field,, and of course Bud-Wiser float was leading the parade tossing skunk buds to all the curious youthful onlookers. ,and the DARE people were there,(Drugs Aren't Really Evil),with their "DrugMobile" Motor Home...... Things really got out of hand though,,when jonesed out students from the schools Crack Glee Club ran amuck,and attempted to car-jack the Bud-Wiser float..........this proves that Crack is not Marijuana.....Marijuana is not heroin... to compare Marijuana to crack or heroin,is like comparing a nerf-ball to a shotgun,,it's like comparing a toothpick to a baseball bat. .. it's like comparing pebble to a boulder..... I have yet to hear any credible argument concerning Marijuana remaining a schedule 1 narcotic,along with cocaine and heroin....but then again,,credible arguments are very hard to come by when it comes to the proponents of the war on drugs...


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Comment #7 posted by gloovins on May 02, 2002 at 06:05:52 PT
Gee wonder why they are mixed up???
"Youths today are getting a mixed message about the safety of marijuana," Teaney-Thomas said

Yes they are aren't they?

Let's see, they are bombarded with the fact that cannabis is both good and "bad". See, well the clothing made from it the rope, the fabric, oh yes and the hempseed oil & the fuel from, ahhh, hemp, er marijuana, ahhh thats good yes. In fact, probably the best...but ahhh WAIT the smoke of this plant, ahhhhhh, well, helps a very small (but growing unusually fast) group of very ill soon-to-be-dead people, so 8 states have legalized it but the federal government doesnt recognize/care about these people, they care about the TRUE criminals kids, yep, thats right...people, adults, are just recreationally getting...HIGH! Thats right, kids. It's a euphoria type feeling....well, have you ever spun around so fast you get dizzy? Yes...its like that, sorta...but a little more serene.

Yes...& did I tell you about the little boy in northern california who gets cannabis capsules made by his MOMinsteadof Ritalin or about 2 dozen other Doctor perscribed "cures"...?

Oh no, that would send a mixed message...

God Forbid that!

Re-legalize, tax & regulate, for a safer society.

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Comment #6 posted by potpal on May 02, 2002 at 05:20:31 PT
Damn constitution...
Excellent points noted on this one from yous guys...

Police Lt. Richard Gilbert said the group has a constitutional right to hold the march. "We can't abridge that right." ...as much as we'd like to.



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Comment #5 posted by kaptinemo on May 02, 2002 at 05:16:57 PT:

What they're REALLY afraid of...
...is political activism on the part of students.

It's been 26 years since I graduated, but I've seen and read enough reports concerning the practical 'lock down' nature of high schools today to know that the staff are terrified of the tiger they've saddled and tried to ride.

I don't know if they are still teaching 'social studies' as I knew them, or history, or even 'civics'. But I do recall at about the time I was due for graduation the school board in my area had sent around these little cartoon booklets which denoted your 'rights' as a student.

(Remember, please, this was the mid-1970's and the country had just gone through one of the worst periods of social upheaval in its' history because of the VietNam War. The massive protests the War had generated had scared the bejeezus out of the Powers-That-Be, but they were too scared to try to impose the far-right crackdown that has taken place since then. They knew back then that to openly try to circumscribe the rights of students could lead to highly disruptive demonstrations on their own schools.)

The books were full of vague, fluffy egalitarianism...until you got to the back and read the last part of how the school system can over-ride those 'rights' at a whim.

Well, kids today are expected to be even less politically active by their wardens. (Yes, I said 'wardens') And anything that smacks of political action has to be snuffed out immediately:

The parade permit is approved, and promotional literature has hit the halls and lockers of high schools in the region. The Million Marijuana March is scheduled to begin in front of Dakota Middle School in Rapid City at 4:20 p.m. Saturday, May 4. School officials are distressed. There's not much they can do, however, except confiscate the literature as fast as it appears on school property. "It's disturbing," Mike Butts, an assistant principal at Rapid City Central High School, said. A few flyers announcing the march were found on the floor at the school. (Emphasis mine -k.)

and:

Youths today are getting a mixed message about the safety of marijuana, Teaney-Thomas said. When they perceive it has a medical benefit, it reduces their concern about its use. "They're using the kids just to get it legalized." "Kids high school age feel strongly about standing up for rights," Butts agreed. "They perceive it as a legal issue." (Emphasis mine -k.)

Yes, and can you blame them, when this may be the only chance they have to strike back against piss-test tyranny? The only way they have to vent their displeasure with a school system which sings hosannas to democracy...but refuses to practice even barest aspect of it? Do you think their minds are as programmed as you wish them to be? If you do, then you shouldn't be in the position you're in; a job as a lab-rat caretaker would be more approriate for the likes of you. Kids today are no less intelligent than they were when I was one. They read. They think. They watch. Most of all they watch their adults with eagle eyes, noting every inconsistency, half-truth, dissembling and out-right lie. They know manipulation when they see it. They smell hypocrisy a mile off.

And many can't wait to turn the tables. Politically. Which is why school boards attempt to be so repressive of their 'charges'. An old game. A very old game.

Can the school officials be so amnesiac about their own experinces as young people growing up in troubled times and wish to make the planet a little better...by eliminating unjust laws?



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Comment #4 posted by goneposthole on May 02, 2002 at 05:10:04 PT
10 times more children arrested for alcohol
I worry more about my children using alcohol when they are underage than I do about them smoking cannabis. Alcohol is dangerous, always has been and always will be. I do not consider cannabis a dangerous substance.

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Comment #3 posted by p4me on May 01, 2002 at 23:42:29 PT
You damned liar
"They're using the kids just to get it legalized."

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. It is dumb f'ers like you that say it is the children. Of course that crap is very old and dismissed by anyone that is anywhere near knowledgeable on the subject. The thing the reformers use is reason and the Constitution. It is the prohibitionist that use lies, corruption, and the precious little children that will be tomorrow's cannabis criminals unless something changes. What a stupid bastard they chose to quote.

PBS is running their program of the 1883 house in Montana over and over. I finally watched part of it. The children went to a recreated one room school house that would be like one used in Montana in 1883. I liked the part when the teacher began class. They showed the teacher writing a "memory gem" up on the board. The one they chose to write and show for broadcast was by Aesop. It read : No one believes a liar. This surely applies to the BAH team. They are liars and I have total disrespect for all of them and the bastards that agree with them on the stupid marijuana policy.

It is about like Bill Mahre said this Wednesday on his show when people said the law must be obeyed and if you don't like the law you need to change it. It was appropriate in the ongoing conversation when Bill Mahre said "We are a country of corrupt politics."

Starve the economy and have a thrifty meal. VAAI

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Comment #2 posted by E_Johnson on May 01, 2002 at 23:00:24 PT
The moral and ethical dumbing down of America
That's what I blame on the War on DRugs.

It starts with just a little bit of lying.

Hey let's all lie to our kids about the days when we were big weedheads ourselves, and that will make the world a better place because then they will never smoke weed!

No, the way it really works is -- your kids still end up smoking weed, but you have morally compromised yourself by choosing to lie.

And it is true that there IS a wicked web that we weave, when first we practice to deceive.

Those old fashioned pre-Drug War values -- does anyone still remember them???

Now it's okay to lie cheat and steal as long as your urine is clean.

Everyone at Enron and Andersen had their urine screened before being hired.



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Comment #1 posted by E_Johnson on May 01, 2002 at 22:45:40 PT
Morally confused youth of America
Youths today are getting a mixed message about the safety of marijuana,

They're getting a mixed message about morality when the gold standard for moral character in America is passing a urine test.

I saw that teenager on O'Reilly Factor who did not have clue that he could have done anything wrong or harmful or unethical by putting photos of some naked underage classmate on the Internet.

Of course this kid doesn't understand the ins and outs of interpersonal ethics -- he's a product of D.A.R.E., he's the product of a society that is more concerned about marijuana than it is about rape or sexual abuse.

He's the product of a society that -- in the middle fo a child sexual abuse scandal among Catholic school teachers -- thinks it's a good idea for parents to hand over control of their children's sexual privacy to the school system -- to keep them safe from marijuana.

The moral reasoning of our society has been reduced to the level of passing a urine test, that's it, that's as far as the War on Drugs is teaching these kids to think.

"Kids high school age feel strongly about standing up for rights," Butts agreed. "They perceive it as a legal issue."

Then there is hope for this country yet!!!!



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