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  Pro-Pot Movement Has High Hopes in Flint
Posted by FoM on April 29, 2002 at 20:21:47 PT
By Marlon Vaughn, Journal Staff Writer 
Source: Flint Journal  

cannabis The Thumb-area native, who heads the Mid Michigan Marijuana Movement, is one of the chief organizers of the Saturday marijuana march through downtown Flint - a first for the city.

He hopes the event will generate the needed local momentum to get the legalization of marijuana on state politicians' radar screens. "This is a networking event for people interested in this issue," said Wright, 31. "I think (Michigan) has the strongest movement in the country right now."

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Comment #6 posted by sylos on April 19, 2005 at 07:11:11 PT:

cannabis
it's me again, matt. let me get stoned with you guys. please. i don't like smoking by myself. i hate these stupid ideas and theories, why must one try and figure stuff out when he's stoned? can't we just smoke it to relax? i can't relax when i'm by myself... i need a smoke buddy..to distract me from serious stuff.... :(

someone help me

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Comment #5 posted by sylos on April 19, 2005 at 07:07:31 PT:

help me im freakin out.
Someone help me i think im freaking out.. the truth is everyone is stoned. i don't want this, help me i don't want this :-( please someone tell me that im just talking bollx! please. I can't accept this. the world now is born from drugs isn't it?? ARGGHH this is killing me.

where we are now is wrong. It's about love. It's about the fact that i fkin hate the world because everyone, everyone is a stoner. You think - In the 50s, your parents and grandparents lead a simple polite life where music was from the countryside and Elvis ruled. And then a few people (these are the next generation 'talented' celebrities. your Sean ryder, Jim Morrison, Sex pistols, Ian Curtis, Queen) had money to bring something in to the countryside, something new, for the kids, for us, something that grows only in the foreign countries - Cannabis, a mind altering psychadelic drug. Can't you see? colour started in the 60's - i don't mean on TV i mean in LIFE. Music started then, politics, poets, the new filmmakers, star wars, the Terminator, Alien - all started in the 60's - i'm talking about the age where the import of drugs were becoming alot larger than before - because in the 50's, no one knew what a cannabis smoke (i.e. joint) was, they would just smoke it because some Indian showed him the way on a 'mind trip' whilst visiting the Hawiian beaches, some African told him that it shows you "gods" - of course that's what he'd say, he doesn't understand logic, he doesn't understand the factual effects of these drugs, he just believes that there IS a Moses and there ARE gods of Fire and Wind and Thunder - because that's what he saw, combined with tales and fantasies about these gods told by their mothers, meant only for enjoyment and comfort when they were kids, so they could sleepd easier Gilda. But we have logic, instead of combining tales with fantasies, us american and english combined LOGIC with fantasy, producing "ultimate logic" logic that works so much you only need to guess it.

So we had a huge turning point in the 60's - this "drug" influenced minds and introduced "abstract thoughts" - and that evovled into the 70's (Abba) {who by the way influenced odd clothing] and then into the 80's (Kiss, Alice Cooper, the birth of Computer music - which by the way evolved into disco, then techno) the 90's (Disco, Oasis, Ibiza, which by the way become an island and the music lead fashion for 6 years, inspiring the birth of COMPUTER GAMING) and today we have Britney Spears cutting her wrists on MTV - by the way she influences millions of female teenagers and children. Blink 182, they influence aggression upon society, they also birthed sick humour and swearing for a living.

It's about everything we see now, came from the 60's when they were all fukng high. So we're living in a drug world, no one's really talented, because every single talented person (including me by the way) was or is doped up, and he's seeing shit, and he has a deep thinking session in which he figures out the meaning of life. All the ideas and inspiration. it works, think about it. The wallpaper in the 50's? BORING, COLOURLESS, GREY AND WHITE LINES. then the next thing you know, the 60's came and they designed wallpapers with green yellow and red blobs CLEARLY resembling the effect of the psychadelic drug, this is what you see, you don't understand it but it's new and abstract. We aren't supposed to be here, because all today is is an extention, an evolution BORN from the 60s. you have over 8,000 bands in the world today. back then? only about 6 - they were the children of the 50's that discovered weed. these people had influenced everything, technology, music, me, YOU. these bands were Queen and the Doors and Abba and Sex Pistols (Sex pistols were the FIRST people to swear on TV - the FIRST, before then, you were looked at oddly if you swore in public, look what they've done, look at the world they have created today where designers make clothing for 5 year olds, clothing with swear words and sex on them) we're born from it. your mother had also gotten high, my mother smokes weed EVERY DAY.

What the fck is going on?! everyone is a fucking druggy - EVERYONE. do you understand me? I can;t think of a SINGLE friend i have that hasn't smoked dope Gilda, can you think of any of yours?? can you? No, we're all drugged and we're evolving the wrong way, the inpure way, evolving more and more into the abstraction, more and more into WEIRD thoughts, a higher level of realisation and understanding, much like that guy who figured out the meaning of life, i'm sure everyone has when they were stoned, even me. And what does this mean now? my talent and misery is the same as everyone else? where has individuality gone? we're are the victims of our mothers and fathers, citizens of the 60's who tried weed in school and college, then couldn't get away from the stuff! like my mother.

I can't believe this, a year ago I thought only some people did it every now and again. No. nuh-uh. the world is stoned, and it's influencing the very coolness of today's technology, the style of something, new music, new films, new stories. the desire for a step closer to the surreality, we're leaving old reality, the human reality, and we're ceasing to be human, we can't be human if we cultivate plants and smoke them for high-speed brain activity. No, we've evolved and adapted to drugs, we're not humans, we're all Greek Gods sitting in our minds, contained in a limestone FKNG hall conversing and swapping new ways of expanding the world, but that's not all we're swapping, oh no, we're passing over joints, bongs and pipes too, THAT'S WHAT.

Welcome to the real world, i sure hope you survive it, WITHOUT drugs. lol what a joke, "without" drugs. I sure as hell can't live without it now, i'm already using it as a means of anti-depressant, like everyone else, my mother...

I'm sorry to hit this to you, such bad news, such dissappointment, but how do you think i feel? having only figured this out LAST NIGHT - whilst GETTING STONED! ARG GRRR!!!

we're all wrong, we're all happy, three laws of influence (manipulation actually..) 1. sex 2. money 3. drugs.

how pathetic. I'm wrong though, right? please tell me im wrong this is scaring the sht outta me.

Life sucks.

I'm so sorry...

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Comment #4 posted by el_toonces on April 30, 2002 at 06:00:49 PT:

Mail v. jail......
...I think the problem with mailing them anything is that whatever was mailed would be easy to dispose of, but getting rid of 40 million or so Americans -- hell, even warehousing them in some corporate prison -- would be messy. I guess that's why John thought it would work:).



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Comment #3 posted by potpal on April 30, 2002 at 05:58:37 PT
Abbie...
...Jon Gilmore once suggested that if everyone who smoked simply presented him or herself to the local police station at 4:20 p.m. on April 20th of any given year, this prohibition problem would be over in ten minutes...

How 'bout we all mail the president (or your senator) a joint every 4/20? How many would that be? (Of course, you could use catnip, unless you think they'll smoke it...;-)

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Comment #2 posted by el_toonces on April 30, 2002 at 05:09:15 PT:

The unfortunate appeal of romance...
....is that it ignores likely reality. Jon Gilmore once suggested that if everyone who smoked simply presented him or herself to the local police station at 4:20 p.m. on April 20th of any given year, this prohibition problem would be over in ten minutes or so. He is right, but do you ever think that will happen? Not only does it defy the Nash Equilibrium of the situation, it ignores the Hobsonian choices the WoSD has made ALL OF US make -- whether we have done so consciously or not.

I happen to be quite the freedom lover, even being known to enjoy "poisoning" myself by means of the occasional tobacco cigarette, and I don't think it's ANYBODY'S JOB to do anything more than make sure my decision is informed. I love the idea of freedom implicit in such a statement and the attendant self-expression involved, even if, with approved cigarettes, it might be a bleak expression. However, if the purpose of my action or inaction is to convince OTHER PEOPLE to validate, allow, or at least not persecute me for my choice, then it is only rational I use methods most effective for THAT PURPOSE rather than methods more related to the issues of self-expression or freedom.

Being honest, we are asking our fellow citizens for their "permission" -- in a way -- and ought not let the "bonds of oppression" arise our anger or inflame our passions so that we lose sight of the reason we march in the first place. Are we merely marching for solidarity? Because, if we are, then we should simply do what "feels best". But, if have other purposes, well then pull out the "girdles and neckties" for me:).

I guess we'll end up agreeing to disagree on this one, dddd?

El

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Comment #1 posted by dddd on April 29, 2002 at 23:26:16 PT
To Smoke or Not to Smoke..That is the Question
...I can see both sides of the question.....On one hand,,a "smoke free" march or rally would tend to give the movement a "law abiding" image,,and it would give the stoic ,,prudes,,who have been brainwashed by the ondcp ,and pdfa,,alot less to talk about....And then of course,there's the "crowd control" factor,,whenever the cops move into a crowd and start busting people,,the march is usually done for.........However...
..On the other hand,,I really like the Valor of the Rebellious Spirit!.....the romantic notion of protesters who believe in their cause,and are not afraid to stir things up a bit by firing up a big ol' reefer...From this point of view,,we could look over at the 'smoke-free wussies,,and say ;"If it wasnt for all you anal retentive smoke-free chickens,,,we could make a better statement,with more impact..If everyone is smoking weed,,then let them lock up the hundreds or thousands of marchers...".....ya gotta admit,,if everyone was smoking a joint,,the law enforcment overload would be significant.....If you only got a few people smoking,,then ,then the cops will just single them out,and brutally take them into custody with nightsticks and pepper spray....when you see your fellow demonstrators getting arrested,,it really makes you angry,,and it tends to neutralize the message....I think that I would favor EVERYBODY smoking,,hand out joints to everybody..everybody would light up at the same time! ..Think of it,,hundreds of people,all lighting up simultaneously. .A big ol' beefy cloud of sweet smoke from Prime Humboldt buds...the robust aroma fills the air,,,,others are drawn into the march when they see that everyone is smoking,,,If the cops decided to take action,,there would be the inevitable staredown ,,and if everyone has a smoking joint,,then they would have to single someone out,,to begin busting...It would really be embarassing for the cops to have to try and book all the the marchers...........everyone would just have one joint,,pretty soon they would have to start writing tickets...respectable citizens would be getting busted along with old hippies and beatniks.... ..peaceful Mayhem!..I like the idea,,,, ..The Thousand Joint March,,,,,It would have IMPACT! ,,it would really piss off the cops....one can imagine ,,,the impact of a riot cop givin' ya the Rodney King treatment with one of them black Hippie bats.............dddd


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