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Posted by FoM on April 19, 2002 at 12:19:50 PT
By Keith Fraser, The Province  
Source: Canada.com 

medical A tearful and visibly shaking Steve Tuck, arrested in Sechelt on outstanding marijuana charges in California, was released yesterday pending a deportation inquiry.

Immigration Canada is arguing that Tuck, 35, and Steve Kubby, another American who was taken into custody Tuesday on the Sunshine Coast, illegally entered Canada and should be returned to the United States.

Kubby, 56, who was scheduled for a similar hearing yesterday, had his immigration case withdrawn after police found 160 marijuana plants and charged him with cultivating marijuana and possession for the purpose of trafficking.

Both men are high-profile advocates of the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes.

Immigration officer Michael McPhalen told an immigration adjudicator that while Tuck was not a danger to society, there was a risk that he would avoid reappearing for the inquiry.

But Tuck's lawyer, Alex Stojicevic, said his client had only been arrested after he'd done numerous media interviews and he had nothing to hide.

"People who live underground typically don't do interviews," said Stojicevic, who added that his client has been suffering since his medicinal marijuana was denied after he was arrested.

Adjudicator Daphne Shaw-Dyck ruled that she had "good cause" to believe Tuck will show up for the inquiry and "with certain conditions in place, I think you can reappear."

Tuck was released on a $5,000 cash bond and on condition he visit an immigration officer weekly until the inquiry begins May 9.

As he was being led away to be processed for release, Tuck told a roomful of his supporters that he was feeling "better, much better. Thank you all, it means so much to me."

Kubby remains in custody in Vancouver. RCMP said they expect he will appear on the criminal charges in Vancouver. Immigration Canada said the charges take precedence over immigration matters.

Kubby's wife, Michele Kubby, faces the same charges and was at large yesterday, but RCMP said they expect her to turn herself in.

Source: Canada.com
Author: Keith Fraser, The Province
Published: Friday, April 19, 2002
Copyright: 2002 Canada.com

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Comment #25 posted by lookinside on April 20, 2002 at 13:11:59 PT:

dddd...
Some would, I guess.

Not me. I would not abandon my veggie garden.

The money wouldn't run out though, cuz I'd suggest getting a printing press and making alot of bumper stickers with slogans like "PLANT BUSH!" on them. That slogan has at least 2 meanings, both of which I find acceptable.

We could probably sell one to every inhabitant in the middle east.

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Comment #24 posted by dddd on April 20, 2002 at 12:08:01 PT
..Thank you Lookinside.
..The dddd would probably be a prudent and kind ruler....When any of his subjects got pissed,or busted him doing something bad or wrong,,,,,,,then dddd would simply buy them a brand new car!....If that didnt solve the problem,,,then dddd would remind the dissenter that dddd pays all the taxes for everyone,out of his lottery winnings.....ah,,but then the dddd years would decline,,,everyone would start to realize that dddd was just a stupid nice hippie ,,,,,,when dddd ran out of money,,everyone would desert him,and drive their brand new cars back to the US ..dddd

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Comment #23 posted by lookinside on April 20, 2002 at 11:09:20 PT:

dddd...
southern Me-hi-co is the place. No need for Grow Lights, and warm enough that my wife could go outside, daily.

I don't mind you being the boss, 'cuz it would be your lottery winnings that bought the land. I'd expect that we'd end up with a loosely organized anarchistic, democratic, dictatorship with libertarian roots. Your main dooties would to make a 30 second speech on Pot T.V. at 4:20 on 4/20, remote from whatever beach you happen to be on. Of course, there would follow a banquet with you as guest of honor. We could eat traditional food like Cheese cake, potato chips, big macs, and lots of chocolate chip cookies.

I'd expect that the biggest expense the dddd government would have is the 3 hour fireworks display immediately after the banquet.

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Comment #22 posted by dddd on April 20, 2002 at 10:28:19 PT
you're in luck Lookinside!
..I'll take a Milwaukee Sawz-All to a brand new Jaguar,,and make some wierd off road beach pickup for you, ,,and we'll start this new independent country in southern Mexico,(or maybe north Manitoba?),,,,but if we decide on the southern Mexico gig,,we got to worry about 2 things,,,,,first of all,,I will be the ruler,,and I'll have to be buying people new trucks,,and paying off the mortgage of our new country,to some Mexican/NewYork landlord..
..and,,,,then someone would wander into our new,free country,,with a gun.,,and they would want to know where the Ruler,,the "Head Ruler",of the country was,,and pretty soon this guy with the gun,,would find my old ass on the beach,,and I would be getting a tan,with some weird long fingernailed chicks,,,you know,,the kind of girls that you might buy at a Castro/Clinton Concubine Auction.....I'd make a fucked and stupid ruler..I dont think I would enjoy life,,..More and more,,,,rulers of today must spend alot of time and energy just trying to not get shot!....I would be a really nice and popular ruler,all the citizens would be free,and happy...the worst problem would be trying to keep the US government assholes from using our new country like an Ashtray Heart!..

...............................................................................................dddd


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Comment #21 posted by FoM on April 20, 2002 at 10:13:38 PT
Hope
Thanks Hope and thanks everyone. I sometimes get my mind going so fast I can't get it to make sense to me. When I'm exhausted it dawns on me but then I can't figure out what to say so it remains a feeling most times.

PS: Got a really nice update from el-toonces. They are having a wonderful conference. They walked around the city last night and he marveled at how accepting the city is. He said other nice things but I shouldn't post them in a public forum.

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Comment #20 posted by Hope on April 20, 2002 at 10:01:40 PT
Comment #11 FoM
You might have been fumbling for words, but, somehow, you found exactly the right ones.

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Comment #19 posted by lookinside on April 20, 2002 at 09:29:58 PT:

dddd...
I'd forego my Mercedes pickup if you won enough to buy a little piece of southern Mexico and declared it a DEA free state.

Start a little country with only one law: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Establish a place where 4/20 is the great national holiday. Giving each other cases of seaweed emulsion and clones of the finest kinds.

A place where a barber would starve to death, but the guy with a rototiller gets statues erected to him.

Mainly I'd just like to live in a place where we can exist peacefully.

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Comment #18 posted by Jose Melendez on April 20, 2002 at 07:52:49 PT:

on 420
wired magazine has an article in the main page on 4/20:
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,51986,00.html


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Comment #17 posted by dddd on April 20, 2002 at 07:49:18 PT
Right On Patrick
...You Whore!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no,,I know,,that even without the Corvette,,you would still be the Real You!.,and,, , I am also quite pleased that I didnt bite the big one.I like going overboard,,but not that far.(?).
.....I'm pretty sure I'm gonna win the California SuperLotto next week!,,My Uncle Guido in Sacramento told me that the numbers I sent him looked quite promising!,,but I dont think I'm gonna hand out all these cars I was boasting about....I mean,, heck,,this aint the Powerball!,,,All I'll probably win is a million or so,,and after I buy FoM a new Lincoln Navigator,,and pay back SWAMPIE,Ethan,Lehder,and DocZombie all the money they've loaned me,,,well ,,I'll be lucky if I can afford to treat you to a 1973 Ford Maverick!.
..everyone is probably kinda laughing at me now,about all this,,,but when I get the lotto winnings,the laughter will stop!,,,but money wont make me happy....I cant get much happier,,so then I would start using my millions in strange ways.....I'll betchya that EJ would still feel the same way about me if I was rich....that's what I like about EJ. She's kinda staunch and sorta spooky,,,she dont really like no cheap,silly fun........... Good Grief!..
...pardon me,,,I dont know where I'm going with all this.....,,,,other than to mention how most people entertain the fantasy that if they won millions in the lottery,,,that they would somehow remain unaffected....... Oh yea,,,,,,If qqqq won ,,or got a bunch of money,,,,then I imagine he would buy a ranch type place somewhere in Montana,Oregon,or The San Juan Islands on the Puget Sound..,,or maybe a Canadian Weed Plantation!,,,Acres and acres of prime Buds!!..,,4q,,out there harvestin' the crops in some really cool John Deere Weed Harvester Machine,,specifically designed to harvest only buds,,and leave the hemp for making furniture,,rope, ,tampons, ,and Hempen Clubs,which will come in handy when we get to the point where we are all huddled into a corner!....The drug terrorists!,,,beanbag bullets and tear-gas,,handcuffs,and you're GONE!,..

......see what you got me into here Patrick!...my little Brothers' name is Patrick.,,,,,,,lucky thing you are not him,,or I would have to give you a "Wedgie",,or an Indian Burn..
..ya know,,alot of times,,I review what I've written,,and I get embarrassed,,so I think about posting it under a new fake name,,,something like;"MegaSuperego",,or,;"ffff"...but it would be too much of a hassle to delete all my punctuational abuses...dead giveaway.............ddddana


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Comment #16 posted by Patrick on April 20, 2002 at 06:12:28 PT
Respect
I think that is what cannabis deserves this 4/20. SoberStoner and FoM, you have always had my respect. Even more now after reading you posts in this thread. I mean that. No for something completely different…

Wow!!! A corvette for me!!! You are one cool cat 4d. When u win the lotto I gladly accept if it includes that autographed pic of you and your dog!

In my wild and terribly inebriated 420 cannabis stupor, I know I ain't hallucinatin when I say that you are as funny as a digital reincarnation of Bill Maher/Jay Leno/Robin Williams/ George Carlin/Chris Rock all rolled into one mastermind freak show humor machine gone berserk. I feel like am the only one posting here that isn't some kinda global nationally renown celebrity comedian in disguise. But dude, I won't give away the ruse man. It's all cool. Oops.

All silliness aside though its frickin 420 again! I am stoned. Peace.

But your words always ring true.

I dont think that terrorist have given pot users a bad name,,because pot users had a "bad name",way before terrorists ever did..? ..

I think I can say that on behalf of a whole lotta folks here, I am so damn glad you didn't bite the big one with that lung thing and you are here posting again your mindless ramblings dude. Your funnier en four em mofo's on tv. Stick around.



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Comment #15 posted by dddd on April 20, 2002 at 03:33:49 PT
all the dooda day...
SoberStoner,,you get the $876.76,,that I award to people who say things that IU like...
..I really liked your qualification thing...:;".....ugh...mindless rambling while tired is not a good idea..i hope this makes some sense to people..if not, excuse me as i wallow in my own anger and self-pity for not being able to celebrate with you, but seeing as how I am wanting to take a more pro-active role, it seems an unfortunate and necessary condition for my own safety."...
.... .."mindless rambling while tired ..."is the very best kind of rambling!,,,,I have tried my best to make mindless rambling an accepted,and normal type thing....Mindlessnes can bring out the best of smartness and wisdom!..
..It is most regretful,,that I cannot afford to bequeath you with the full $876.76 ,at this time....However,,,, I do have $1.76 which I could send you,,and that would make it an even $875.00 that I will owe you.,,,,and even if I dont win the lottery like I planned,,, Iwill then try to get a job,,and save up enough for you,and all the other people that I have given cash awards to.,,,plus,,dont forget;handin' out cash awards is not just all about bein' able to afford to pay out the award money....Many award winners consider it an insult that I havn't paid them yet,,and I used to think that it was the thought that counts,,but I gotta admit!....Cash Talks!,,,, ,,and as soon as I have the cash from my planned lottery winnings,,,I will pay all the people who are waiting for their monetary awards...,,plus,,I will buy people new vehicles!..Imagine the thrill in the SoberStoner household,,as they look out and see a new Dihautsu Charade,,in the driveway!,,,,And EJ,and p4me will get Baby Blue ,"King Cab" trucks,,,and they may have to car-pool with Kap and Lehder,,because I might not have enough money left after I buy Patrick a new Corvette,,and MikeEEEE,,goneposthole,and Lookinside get custom Mercedes Pickup trucks...Irule,and his cousin,Toker00,will get matching 1969 Pontiac GTOs....I guess I'd get Ethan a brand new Citroen,,or perhaps a classic Jensen Interceptor.....FoM is already happy,,so I would just buy her husband a Ferrari Pickup truck......DanB,,JoseM,,,SansSuperego,JRB Dobbs,,DankHank,Hope,CongressmanSuet, ,,and everyone of the dozens of people who I stupidly failed to mention,,all will get "new" cars,,,and if I got enough loterry winnins left over,,I will offer to move anyone who is interested,,out to the West Coast!..It may be nice back east,,in fact,where ever you live is as nice as you pretend it to be,,,but I'd like to offer people to come on out to Western Washington,or the Oregon coast!.........anyway,,I hope all this makes it difficult for anyone else to be concerned about "mindless ramblings"...I am the Liberace of Mindless Ramblers,,and I pity da fool who dares challenge me for the title!!...
...OK,,,now I remember the original reason I even started to post,,and that was to tell hempity that I was turned on by the "anger" comment!.....No more Mr Nice-Guy!!!,.....but,,,I'm sorry,,,it's too bad,,,it's the regretful truth,,,;It is no longer legal to get really pissed!,,,yes,,It's true!,,only terrorists get really pissed,,and terrorists are legally hunted down,,and killed!...polls have proven that 90% of all terrorists have once been freaked out on pot!,,so I guess that pot users are giving terrorists a bad name...I dont think that terrorist have given pot users a bad name,,because pot users had a "bad name",way before terrorists ever did..? ..
..I hope that I have sufficiently mindlessly rambled ....I am reporting ,,Live,,from Outer Space!.....dddd


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Comment #14 posted by hempity on April 20, 2002 at 00:33:57 PT
Anger can move you to action, better get ACTIVE
Or your one and only santuary is no more. It is happening as if from a script. I am in total deja vue, I remember so vividly the frightned american draft doger and thier familys, folks that at least had santuary. You are close to looseing that my friends, you must ACT NOW. Our protest here are only heard here, you are all but cut off from world news, as are we. Write our Prime Minister, I will, not that he will listen to either of us maybe if thier is enough of us. If you can get the compassion of the Canadian people on your side, they will fight, Hilary Black's Grandfather sank the Bismark, you will not slience her easily, we already have so many warriors up here ready to stand and speak the truth. Help us mitaoyate, hempity dooda day

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Comment #13 posted by SoberStoner on April 19, 2002 at 23:24:03 PT:

emotions
Emotions are a powerful part of our humanity. They were given to us for a reason. When i heard that the Steves had been captured (because let's face it, whether they call him one or not, he and everyone else arrested for this lunacy is a prisoner of war) my first thought it that it was a death sentance. Here we have living proof of the value the cannabis can provide for people with cancer and intense pain. The doctors gave Kubby 6 months to live...26 YEARS ago...has anyone even thought to conduct any studies to find out why he has managed to keep the cancer at bay for so long? No, they'd rather put him in a cage and murder him while they watch him suffer....all over a plant...I am disgusted and furious..I know that he is free now, but what if the damage has already been done? I pray that it hasnt, but it doesnt matter, because in a way, the damage already has been done by making them flee their country.

C-news has become my home on the internet. I may not post as much as some of the others here, but I read almost every comment people make everyday. I feel like I know many people mentioned here because of how much time I have spent researching the subect and talking to people here and elsewhere. I dont always agree with Marc Emery, but after this, I will never say another bad word about him ever again.

FoM, I know how you feel about not wanting to let your emotions get away from you, but sometimes it helps to call these Nazi's exactly what they are..Instead of Jewish people, the 'stoners' are the target of this holocaust. While they do not outright kill most of us, they just destroy almost any chance for anyone caught by them to live a normal life. They take your pride, your possessions, and they try to take your freedom. And meanwhile, they drink their Budweiser and Prozac cocktails and steal every bit of money they can. These fucking idiots dont even realize that money means absolutely nothing. The only worth it has it the worth THEY assign to it. It's all just paper or metal when you get down to it. And hell, anymore there isnt even any paper, it's just a bunch of abstract numbers in a bank account at the First Enron Bank of America (coming to a K-mart near you) Do you understand that?? People are being destroyed over numbers that dont even exist!!!!

Vent those emotions either here or wherever you feel comfortable venting them, dont keep them bottled up inside, for if you do, one day they will come back in ways you would never expect. Use your emotions to fuel the fire of your activism, when expressed properly, even the most rage fuelled speeches can change society, look at some of Malcolm X's speeches and you can literally feel his outrage and anger at the condition of his people. Peace and love will win the war, but rage will be the catalyst that makes our side finally stand up and say, "NO! We will NOT let you control us anymore!" This is a war of their design, and most wars are fought and won psychologically. Be careful in celebrating 4-20 and who you choose to celebrate it with. With the recent 'terror' warnings for today and the results of the last two warnings, expect the worst, but hope for the best.

ugh...mindless rambling while tired is not a good idea..i hope this makes some sense to people..if not, excuse me as i wallow in my own anger and self-pity for not being able to celebrate with you, but seeing as how I am wanting to take a more pro-active role, it seems an unfortunate and necessary condition for my own safety.

Toke one up for me everyone, and enjoy 4/20 as safely as possible, I do not want to see any more names that i know popping up in articles like this on or after one of the holiest days of my own personal religion. I love all of you, you have become my new family on the web..stay safe, and love each other as you would have others love you.

SS

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Comment #12 posted by lookinside on April 19, 2002 at 23:06:39 PT:

FoM...
Well Said!

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Comment #11 posted by FoM on April 19, 2002 at 22:25:39 PT
lookinside
I'm very tired and I'm trying to keep everything that is happening in my mind. I really try to remove my emotions from doing news but I can't. I can step back some times but when people are busted for a plant I can't say how I feel. I'm fumbling for words now. I know that the war is intensifying and fear can control us and then guess what? They'll win and I don't mean bin Laden. I wondered many times how the Jewish people went to their death in Nazi Germany. What ever caused them to not react we must never let it happen to us. Does this make sense? This isn't really about marijuana. This is about freedom to be who we are and to live as we choose. Freedom. I want to be free before I get much older. I want to not be stigmatized by people who know nothing about why we care like we do. We are people who think and believe differently and that should be allowed because this is America.

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Comment #10 posted by lookinside on April 19, 2002 at 22:08:17 PT:

FoM...
Me too...I've found that when I'm this angry, I tend to say waaay too much and once the adrenaline subsides, I can't even remember what I'd said. Better to wait for clear thinking.

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Comment #9 posted by FoM on April 19, 2002 at 20:57:50 PT
puff_tuff
Thanks for the update. I saw EJ posted Steve Kubby was out and I wondered about what was happening with Ken Hayes. I don't know what to say. When I get upset I get quiet. I just don't say much. I'd probably have to delete my comment.

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Comment #8 posted by puff_tuff on April 19, 2002 at 20:45:29 PT
Update by Marc Emery
Marc Scott Emery (Prince of Pot) 04/19/02 08:00 PM as of friday evening 8.00 p.m. pacific at this time, steve Kubby and michelle Kubby are released and having rested up at my place are on their way home.

They are charged with cultivation of marijuana.

They are released on $7,000 in bonds.

Steve is now very healthy looking compared with a few days ago. Kubby has adrenal cancer and his well documented medical case shows a miracle of triumph of cannabis thereapeutics. He requires huge quantities of medical marijuana.Kubby's grow op was raided a day after his arrest by Immigration Canada officials acting for the DEA on US warrants.

They must make regular weekly appearances with immigration in regards their right to stay in Canada. Canadian immigration acted on warrants from the State of California requesting the return to the USA of Kubby over ONE stem of magic mushroom and four dried peyote buttons of questionable viability.

Steve Tuck was released yesterday. He is out on $5,000 bail. Only his immigration status is in question in Canada, a minor matter, but is wanted on charges in California relating to medical marijuana production. Canadian immigration were acting on request of the US government and offices of the DEA in California. Tuck is a veteran of US armed forces and suffers a variety of major spinal column ailments (he has metal plates in much of his spine) requiring many drugs and cannabis.

Ken Hayes, of San Francisco, living in Vancouver, was arrested Thursday, on warrants issued out of California, yesterday, on Thursday April 18. He is being held over in good conditions at the Vancouver airport immigration detention centre, a much better place than city jail where Kubby/Tuck were, but Hayes will have to remain incarcerated until Monday when an Immigration Hearing is set.

Contributions to the Kubby's defence & legal situation can go to the POT-TV.net NEWS.

Marc

Marc Emery - Moderator Marc Emery Direct Seeds

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Comment #7 posted by E_Johnson on April 19, 2002 at 16:40:23 PT
Kubby released
Heard it on Pot-TV

http://www.pot-tv.net/archive/shows/pottvshowse-1285.html



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Comment #6 posted by FoM on April 19, 2002 at 15:02:28 PT
Thanks puff_tuff
What a terrible mess this is.

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Comment #5 posted by puff_tuff on April 19, 2002 at 14:52:05 PT
Steve Kubby
According to CBC Radio, yesterday afternoon, Kubby was released by immigration and picked up by the RCMP for growing.

In these parts(BC), medical marijuana patients are rarely convicted.

They will have to endure the process.

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Comment #4 posted by FoM on April 19, 2002 at 14:12:26 PT
JR Bob Dobbs
I know I got word from a friend last night from the NORML Conference that they were both released but when I read this article what it looks like is they found plants and that's what is going on. That's the way I'm reading the article so he could have been released and then taken back into custody or close to release and everyone assumed he was released and then they didn't. I'm sure we'll hear more as the evening progresses.

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Comment #3 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on April 19, 2002 at 14:04:04 PT
Cowan says Kubby got released too
See the press release below, dated 4/18.

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Comment #1 posted by Jose Melendez on April 19, 2002 at 12:47:31 PT:

grin
Tuck told a roomful of his supporters that he was feeling "better, much better.

Right on! A roomful of supporters! Grea! Any news on Steve Kubby?

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