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  Yale to Reimburse Aid Lost Under Higher Ed. Act
Posted by FoM on April 05, 2002 at 09:54:44 PT
By Jocelyn Lippert, Staff Reporter 
Source: Yale Daily News  

justice Senior Yale administrators have approved a new policy that will reimburse students for financial aid for which they would otherwise be ineligible under the "Drug Free Student Aid" provision of the Higher Education Act, Director of University Financial Aid Myra Smith said.

The 1998 "Drug Free Student Aid" amendment to the Higher Education Act denies federal financial aid to students convicted of drug offenses. Under Yale's new policy, the University will offer such students supplemental aid in the same proportion of loans and grants that they would have received from the government.

"I think it's a well reasoned approach," Smith said. "It obviously emphasizes that rehabilitation is a part of what we're doing, but also emphasizes that we don't want to interrupt someone's education financially."

Andrew Allison '04 wrote the Yale College Council resolution passed Feb. 27 asking the University to take the steps delineated in the new policy.

"I'm thrilled with the announcement and I think it's a great victory for student activism," Allison said. "I think the administration deserves praise for taking such bold and reasoned action."

Kat Banakis '03, a member of Student Legal Action Movement, said she is glad to see the efforts of SLAM, the New Haven and Yale chapters of the American Civil Liberties Union, and other campus groups who have rallied around this issue finally pay off.

"It's very rare in activism that you actually get something back, so this is incredible," Banakis said. "It's also wonderful that the Yale administration is being receptive to student resolutions and protests and willing to work with the finances that they have to do something that students have been asking for."

Smith said she brought the proposed policy before the financial aid advisory committee -- which is made up of three undergraduates -- on Monday to ask for their feedback. None of the three members could be reached for comment yesterday.

The new policy states that Yale will only offer supplemental aid to students who have lost eligibility because of possession of illegal drugs, and not to those who lost federal aid for selling illegal drugs. The policy also requires students who receive the replacement aid to complete a drug rehabilitation program at University Health Services or another qualified health care provider approved by UHS.

Banakis said the campaign to convince Yale to reimburse students for the aid lost under the Higher Education Act drug provision began about three years ago under the leadership of Alexandra Cox '01.

"When she was a student here, Alexandra Cox had a lot of press," Banakis said. "She was quoted in Rolling Stone and on MSNBC. She was one of the first students to make a step for it, and the movement got picked up at Oberlin and other colleges."

Swarthmore approved a policy in February awarding students the aid lost under the Higher Education Act.

Smith said it is important to note that the new policy is unlikely to affect a large number of students because to date no Yale student has ever lost eligibility for federal aid under the current law.

Currently, every student who applies for aid from Yale must first apply and be found eligible for federal aid, Smith said. Allison said he was pleased that the new policy does not simply make students eligible for Yale aid, but also replaces the aid they will not receive from the federal government.

"I think that it sends a message that the original law is unjust," Allison said. "It shows that Yale truly believes its students should be able to get the education they deserve."

Note: Drug offenders no longer to be at financial disadvantage.

Source: Yale Daily News (US CT)
Author: Jocelyn Lippert, Staff Reporter
Published: Friday, April 5, 2002
Copyright: 2002 Yale Daily News
Contact: opinion@yaledailynews.com
Website: http://www.yaledailynews.com/

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Comment #18 posted by schmeff on April 08, 2002 at 10:31:40 PT
Off Topic....
...but I love the name Kat Banakis. (paragraph #6)

She's well-spoken and has a cool moniker. Kat Banakis rocks!

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Comment #17 posted by schmeff on April 08, 2002 at 10:19:44 PT
VAAI
I believe this is p4me shorthand for "vote against all incumbents."

Throw the bums out.

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Comment #16 posted by goneposthole on April 05, 2002 at 19:26:22 PT
Bill Clinton
Bill Clinton is a horse's ass, the biggest one since Herbert Hoover.

He is also stupid, not smart. His actions prove it beyond all doubt.

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Comment #15 posted by Dankhank on April 05, 2002 at 16:47:43 PT:

Whatizit?
VAAI

guess I missed the seminal post ...

what is it?

Enquiring minds must ask ...

Peace ....

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Comment #14 posted by SParker on April 05, 2002 at 15:59:31 PT
Homer's Home-Grown
Yes, p4me, Homer Simpson will be tokin' right along with us this Sunday. Although the promo being shown very conspicuously avoids using the "m" word, it is obvious from the images that this is the long-awaited episode where he gets "addicted" to medical mj. Let's just hope there are more jokes at the prohibitionist's expense than ours!

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Comment #13 posted by E_Johnson on April 05, 2002 at 14:42:03 PT
I'm more mad at Clinton/Gore than I am at Bush
All the rotten mean things that Bush is doing to medical marijuana patients are plans that were initiated by Janet Reno under the Clinton administration.

For that reason I am very impatient with people who make fun of Bush's intelligence or lack thereof. It is so not the issue here.

What is Clinton's excuse? He was a Rhodes scholar, and still he decided to ignore the voters and ignore the nurses and caregivers and ignore IOM report and even go after the doctors.

Clinton came from a working class background, he was a bright scholar, he was a liberal, and he turned out to be the worst enemy weed has had since Harry Anslinger.

Politically correct oppression, how about that one?

He had a great education that he fully earned by working hard on his own, and he initiated the drive to close the cannabis clubs that Ashcroft is finishing now.

And Al Gore -- standing up on MTV and saying there was "absolutely no evidence" for medical marijuana -- lying in public about the IOm report.

Gore is a wonderfully intelligent man who fully earned his elite college degree.

And he is also a lying scumbag who will never get my vote in 100 years.



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Comment #12 posted by p4me on April 05, 2002 at 13:45:13 PT
EJ-Wilson
I took some medicine and now think that Wilson was president of Princeton. I think he was in his early 30's when he became top dog.

Wilson was a young boy when he saw federal troops march through Georgia with them all living off the land. The one thing Wilson knew was poverty. His efforts to radically change Princeton did not go the intellectual path that he wanted. You cannot push a person that never have to work a day in their life and has to pay someone to keep their accounts for them around. Much less a bunch of them and forget about the parents.

If anyone could comment on the Alien and Sedition Acts that came out under Wilson, it would keep me from exposing my ignorance on the subject. My real interest has to do with legislation that Busch proposed that was intended to limit what you could say about the president and present policies after 9/11. It was intended to muzzle opposition. It fizzled and I only read about it once never to hear it rementioned.

Didn't Wilson have glaucoma and go blind in the end? Didn't he wear glasses at an early age because of his blood pressure or eye damage because of his high blood pressure? Anyway, a good idea for a short story would be a take on our present world had President Wilson used marijuana for his ailments.

It is my belief that Homer Simpson will be getting high this Sunday? Any info anyone?

VAAI



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Comment #11 posted by E_Johnson on April 05, 2002 at 13:09:28 PT
Intelligence services always upper class
Look at Cambridge and their connection to the British intelligence, it's the same thing.

That's where everyone in the Kim Philby scandal was recruited, on both sides.

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Comment #10 posted by PAUL PETERSON on April 05, 2002 at 12:48:26 PT:

thanks for the enlightenment, ed
Wow-I almost made a big mistake- I never knew just how important the pedigree of a school was until now. In fact, last summer, I wrote a local piece about how after the drug war is over, 1) we'll need to close a few local jails, 2) we should turn them into colleges, 3) for drug prisoners (and guards, that need retraining and all), former slaves & immigrants, 4) I suggested to the Governor of Illinois that we start with the JOLIET CORRECTIONAL CENTER (since it has this campus setting, courtry location, set back from the road, lotta green space) and JUST NOW I FOUND OUT THEY ARE CLOSING THE JOLIET CORRECTIONAL CENTER, so I am glad to hear about these things before I ran right out to start my own "JOLIET SCHOOL OF THE AMERICAS" and all, because that might "tag" onto the wrong societal "pedigree", eh?

I mean, for some minority backgrounds, it is commonplace for males to continue the former traditions of the fathers, and "graduate" from the same institutions of higher learning frequented by their dads. We wouldn't want to start a college, with productive classes, and positive goals, and hope, and future potential, with the same name, as a former prison colony, in the same place, with the same bricks, and the same yard, and the same history, would we?

OR WOULD THIS BE JUST THE KIND OF TRANSITION WHICH COULD STIMULATE AND INDICATE AND DEMONSTRATE THAT WE TRULY DO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, AND JETTISON THE STAGNANCY AND INERTIA AND SELFISH AND COUNTERPRODUCTIVE "WAREHOUSING" that has ruled and ruined our culture for some 50 years? (who'se counting?).

Maybe we could just take a typical jailor mentality, and bring in the books, and start to aggressively build people up with ideas, and encouragement, rather than stuff them into a sardine can sort of lockup thingy, and start to give them "performance" criteria for getting out, with a job, rather than keeping them in for the time, eh? (NOT THAT I HAVE ALL THE AHEM, DETAILS WORKED OUT OR ANYTHING, JUST TALKING, THAT'S ALL.) -(Tomorrow, Yale University starts trading foreign exchange students with the JOLIET SCHOOL OF THE AMERICAS, film at 10). NO EGO, REMEMBER?

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Comment #9 posted by Morgan on April 05, 2002 at 12:22:38 PT
Skull & Bones
How else could Dubya enter this society?

Yale, Professor of History, Gaddis Smith, said, "Yale has influenced the Central Intelligence Agency more than any other university, giving the CIA the atmosphere of a class reunion." And "Bonesman" have been foremost among the "spooks", virtually building the CIA into a "haunted house."

F. Trubee Davison (Skull and Bones '18), was Director of Personnel at the CIA in the early years. Some of the other Bonesmen connected with the "intelligence community" are: William Sloane Coffin, Jr. ('49); V. Van Dine ('49); James Buckley ('44); Bill Buckley ('50); Hugh Cunnigham ('34); Hugh Wilson; Reuben Holden; Charles R. Walker; "Yale's unofficial Secretary of War," Robert D. French ('10); Archibald MacLiesh ('15); Dino Pionzio ('50), CIA Deptuy Chief of Station during Allende overthrow; William and McGeorge Bundy; Richard A. Moore ('3?); Senator David Boren ('63); Senator John Kerry; and of course George Bush. Bush "tapped" Coffin, who, tapped Buckley.

A few other prominent Bonesmen are: Henry Luce ('20), Time-Life; John Thomas Daniels, founder Archer Daniels Midland; Gifford Pinchot ('89); President Theodore Roosevelt's chief forester, Frederick E. Weyerhaeuser ('96); Harold Stanley ('08), founder Morgan Stanley, investment banker; Alfred Cowles ('13), Cowles Communication, Henry P. Davison ('20), senior partner Morgan Guaranty Trust; Thomas Cochran ('04) Morgan partner; Senator John Heinz; Pierre Jay ('92), first chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York; George Herbert Walker, Jr. ('27), financier and co-founder of the NY Mets; Artemus Gates ('18), President of New York Trust Company, Union Pacific, TIME, Boeing Company; William Draper III, the Defense Department, UN and Import-Export Bank; Dean Witter, Jr., investment banker; Senator Jonathan Bingham; Potter Stewart ('36), Supreme Court Justice; Senator John Chaffe; Harry Payne Whitney ('94), married Gertrude Vanderbilt, investment banker; Russell W. Davenport ('23), editor Fortune Magazine, created Fortune 500 list; Evan G. Galbraith, Ambassador to France and Managing Director of Morgan Stanley; Judge John Steadman, the Court of Appeals in the District of Columbia; Richard Gow ('55), president Zapata Oil (George Bush's company); Amory Howe Bradford ('34), married Carol Warburg Rothschild and was general manager for the New York Times ; C. E. Lord ('49), Comptroller of the Currency; Winston Lord ('59), Chairman of CFR, Ambassador to China and a Clinton assistant Secretary of State; John Lilley, ambassador to China.

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Comment #8 posted by E_Johnson on April 05, 2002 at 12:16:23 PT
A university is not a tree, someone pays for it
To come to a conclusion it was the reformer Wilson that pushed for the idea of hey we have this resource we call a university. Why not let the academically gifted by the users of this resource instead of all these rich brats.

p4me, there's a slight problem with the view of a university as a resource. It's not like a tree that grows from the ground. A university costs a LOT of money to support.

The parents of these so-called rich brats were hit up for a LOT more money than just the tuition for their children. The parents of the rich brats paid for the real estate the school sits on, the libraries, the classrooms, the scientific laboratories, the auditoriums, the musicical instruments, the concert halls, the athletic fields, the dormitories the students sleep in.

For a very long time the only money that supported this "resource" of higher education came from the rich.

A university is only rightly a public resource when it is the public that is paying for it.

But now even big private universities like Harvard and Yale are forced to rely on federal funding for many aspects of their programs, so private universities are more accountable than ever to public standards of meritocratic admissions.

Still though, large private donations are tremendously important in funding any major private university, and legacy admissions are not going to go away, for that reason.

It takes one hell of a lot of money coming in the door to keep a university going.

It's not like I'm defending nepotism, but you have to pay the piper, and that's how compromises get made.



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Comment #7 posted by p4me on April 05, 2002 at 11:50:41 PT
stuff
My cut and pate from the DE messageboard is: The Drug Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs have issued their report, supporting re-class. - leaving Blunkett waiting on the Home Affairs Select Committee report, which is due next Tue - before he can make his announcement.

I wanted more to expand on EJ's post 5. Did anyone ever see the PBS documentary on Wilson. It was in two parts. Wilson had a problem with migraines and high blood pressure. If he would have used marijuana for his conditions we might still have legal marijuana today. I would be a lot richer and happier and my government would not have to waste all these billions on a WoSD. An interesting thing about Wilson when he became completely incapacitated while serving his second term- Basically his second wife became president in everything but name.

Wilson was the President of Harvard or maybe Yale. Anyway the practice of the day was for the college to house the rich people's children for 4 or so years and let them grow-up so they would not be so green when they re-entered the world. Education was not even as important as the dining clubs known by another common term I do not recall. In Wilson's day he was a reformer and intellectual that came to national attention because of the quality of reason in his lectures, first to his classes. His public speaking got him elected first governor (Mass,)

To come to a conclusion it was the reformer Wilson that pushed for the idea of hey we have this resource we call a university. Why not let the academically gifted by the users of this resource instead of all these rich brats.

The contrast is clear between EJ and my comments here. He goes for dazzle them with brilliance and all I have is baffle them with bull$hit. All I can say is you have to play with the cards in your hand.

VAAI



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Comment #6 posted by FoM on April 05, 2002 at 11:37:34 PT
Thanks EJ
They wonder why young people's values are all screwed up. I saw a news broadcast that the kids said they don't see any problem with cheating on exams. They don't feel it's important to learn what they are tested on but cheating will help them get into a good college. Strange days indeed.

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Comment #5 posted by E_Johnson on April 05, 2002 at 11:10:56 PT
FoM, the traditions of the upper class
How did Bush get into Yale?

Schools like Yale and Harvard and so on have had a long history of being the breeding ground for the upper class/rich -- BEFORE the idea of educational meritocracy took hold and grades became important in getting into and staying in college.

In a traditional rich upper class family in a traditional class-based society, you wouldn't want the social embarassment of the father going to Yale and the son going to a community college or a trade school. That would be unthinkable.

How could Junior take over Daddy's position at The Firm in that case?

These really top flight schools have a certain number of their admissions that are allocated to what are called legacy admissions -- the sons and daughters of certain important alumni, donors, what have you.

For the university there is a big financial advantage. They can keep a wealthy family as alumni for several generations, so that giving money to the school can become a family tradition.

The idea of only letting into college those who satisfy some merit-based standards like tests and grades is a relatively new idea in the very long history of higher education.

Meritocratic admissions policies became more in demand when universities developed other sources of funding apart from the personal donations of rich upper class families.

For example, public funding. It doesn't make sense to have legacy admissions for a publicly funded university. If the taxpayers are paying for the university, then the children of the taxpayers had better face a level playing field when they apply for admission.

But for a private university, legacy admissions can make good economic sense, even if they offend modern meritocratic sensibilities.



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Comment #4 posted by E_Johnson on April 05, 2002 at 10:51:35 PT
It's an act of atonement
I think they're atoning for being the W alma mater.

But hey let's be fair -- there's a Democrat's signature on that bill and he was a Rhodes scholar and that man has no excuse for signing a law that could have kicked him out of college for residue whether or not he ever got to inhale.

I'd like to see HIM start a fund for the students denied an education because of the Bill he chose to sign of his own adult free will.

Maybe Denise Rich could contribute a few buckarooneys.

But that would be morally right, so don't expect it from them.



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Comment #3 posted by FoM on April 05, 2002 at 10:50:35 PT
Yale
See how much I know. Bush went to Yale? How in the world did anyone who can't even speak correctly get into Yale? I can't get over how much trouble he has saying basic simple words. Very depressing.

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Comment #2 posted by Dark Star on April 05, 2002 at 10:37:29 PT
Yeah, But---
Let me be the first to point out that Dubya only got into Yale because he was a legacy. He never did anything before or since that warranted such an admission based on academic performance or prowess.

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Comment #1 posted by MassCrusader on April 05, 2002 at 10:25:39 PT
Yale
I just had to be the first person to mention the Bush connection here.

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