Critics Worry Pot Ordinance Trivializes Drugs |
Posted by FoM on March 24, 2002 at 11:55:50 PT By David Paulsen, Wausau Daily Herald Source: Wausau Daily Herald The Marathon County Board last week approved a new marijuana possession ordinance that proponents hope will bring more money to the county and give first-time offenders a second chance without the taint of a criminal record. Others worry the ordinance sends mixed messages about drug use. In the past, anyone caught possessing marijuana in the county faced at least a misdemeanor criminal charge under state statutes. The county ordinance, effective once it is published, likely within two weeks, allows Sheriff's deputies and some municipal police to charge first-time offenders caught with 25 grams of marijuana or less with a civil violation. At least half of the money generated by state fines stays at the state level, while almost all of the money from civil violations would go to the county, officials said. "I'm frankly more concerned with the issue of not putting a mark on a person's record for something rather trivial," particularly in cases involving juvenile offenders, said County Administrator Mort McBain. Sheriff Randy Hoenisch said his deputies initially will use the county law in cases involving youths, though it also can apply to adults. Arresting officers still have a choice between filing a county or state charge. The Sheriff's Department made 54 marijuana possession arrests in 1999, the most recent year statistics are available from the state Office of Justice Assistance. Overall, police made 172 marijuana arrests in the county that year. "I think it's a great start," attorney Mike Moran of the state Public Defender's office in Wausau said of the new ordinance. "Juveniles can get involved with treatment but without being labeled delinquent with a first offense." Moran said he also hopes it will free up more resources to pursue drug dealers rather than casual users. The Sheriff's Department will be the primary enforcer of the ordinance, which does not pertain to cities and villages with their own municipal court, such as Wausau and Rothschild. "I think it kind of trivializes things," said Wausau Police Chief William Brandimore. "From my perspective either we should legalize it or prosecute it." "That's a lousy way to raise money," Brandimore said. "If that's the rationale (for passing the ordinance) I'm kind of disappointed in that outlook." In minor, first-offense marijuana convictions, Kelz said he typically requests a $200 fine, court costs and a six-month driver's license suspension, but he also might offer a one-year conditional discharge, after which the criminal charge is amended to civil forfeiture. The ordinance might reflect increased debates over marijuana law on topics ranging from legalization to medicinal marijuana, he said. "I think it goes to social mores and what the community wants," Kelz said. "Let's not mix messages. What are we telling the community?" Four or five years ago, if you got caught with marijuana you could expect a few days jail time, he said. Under conditions of the ordinance, it is no longer even criminal. Although Kelz said he does not agree with the ordinance, he conceded that it might be an appropriate charge for some juveniles with no prior record. Source: Wausau Daily Herald (WI) CannabisNews - Cannabis Archives Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help |
Comment #13 posted by monvor on March 26, 2002 at 06:51:25 PT |
It seems that FRANCES is our first basher in a long time. This is great! When you have a basher on the board, that means you are getting the message out. Now if we could just get a basher to post something intelligent. [ Post Comment ] |
Comment #12 posted by lookinside on March 25, 2002 at 19:21:25 PT:
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My wife suffers from a variety of illnesses. She has tried every pharmaceutical medication available. Her doctors finally agreed that Cannabis provided MORE benefit with less harm than all the other meds.(Those other meds cost her her gall bladder and nearly her life.) When she started using Cannabis as medicine, she was using 9 different pharmaceutical medications. Once she began Cannabis therapy, she was able to eliminate 4 of the most harmful meds and reduce her intake of all the others by as much as two thirds. I, and her doctors, believe that Cannabis saved her life. You are free to believe what you want, but don't you even think about denying my wife her medicine. It would be very bad for your health. [ Post Comment ] |
Comment #11 posted by Jose Melendez on March 25, 2002 at 16:28:23 PT:
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Want some references Frances, or will you just ignore the fact that your objections have consistently, accurately and completely answered by a bunch of potheads? [ Post Comment ] |
Comment #10 posted by Jose Melendez on March 25, 2002 at 16:27:50 PT:
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BROWNIE AS MEDICINE? PULEEZE!
Dismissing a well reasoned argument with srcasm rather than substance discredits your position. COMFORT FOOD - YES. Ever wondered why they call it that? Ever wondered why it might be important to stop and smell the roses?
MEDICINE - Cannabinoids function as neurotransmitters(snip) [ Post Comment ] |
Comment #9 posted by FRANCES on March 25, 2002 at 15:41:47 PT:
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BROWNIE AS MEDICINE? PULEEZE! COMFORT FOOD - YES. MEDICINE - NO. [ Post Comment ] |
Comment #8 posted by Jose Melendez on March 25, 2002 at 04:44:25 PT:
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I'm not sure if this is the same frances, but there is a kamika somewhere in the email address, so, I'll play along... Frances, remember when you said you drew the line at cigarettes, complaining they were not medicine? See: http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread10075.shtml Well, I've done some research, and it turns out that nicotine does indeed have natural functions in the body, as do the essential oils that are released as a component of both tobacco and cannabis smoke. One such substance is known as caryophyllene oxide which is a sequiterpene. Terpenes are precursors to steroids and hormones, and I have developed a non-combustive device to deliver this substance. Asthma inhalers often contain steroids. One of the reasons cigarettes are dangerous has to do with the combustion phase, in which tars, benzene, benzopyrene, toluene and carbon monoxide are created. This is why vaporizers and brownies completely eliminate your only valid arguments against cannabis use. The "high" is NOT dangerous, no one has EVER died from the psychoactive effects of cannabis. If you would like samples of my 100% cannabis based replacement therapy, mail $10.00 to: Jose Melendez Warning! While this product contains no THC.Email jose@narcosoft.com with any questions. [ Post Comment ] |
Comment #7 posted by mayan on March 25, 2002 at 03:35:01 PT |
is spreading in some parts. People are beginning to realize what a boneheaded approach it is to criminalize such a gargantuan portion of society over such a trivial matter. It's no wonder that so many have lost faith in law enforcement. Only through the implementation of sane laws can the enforcers regain the vital confidence of the citizenry. Oh yeah, howdy FRANCES! [ Post Comment ] |
Comment #6 posted by dddd on March 24, 2002 at 17:25:41 PT |
Delightful to see you again!...Please,dont be shy....I respect your opinions,and look forward to hearing more details about your comments,and point of view...I'm afraid "Pot & Fiddles" 1 & 2 could benifit from some clarificatioin beyond the County Council/board correction,,although,the fact that you corrected yourself is a good sign.It shows that you care about what you are saying,and are concerned about accuracy...Sincerely..dddd [ Post Comment ] |
Comment #5 posted by FRANCES on March 24, 2002 at 16:42:30 PT:
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WHOOPS! County Board, NOT City Council. Sorry! [ Post Comment ] |
Comment #4 posted by FRANCES on March 24, 2002 at 16:40:28 PT:
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YOU GUYS! That city council is being played like a fiddle by pot smokers. Everybody knows that toxic, tar-laden weed is "no big deal, it's a natural herb, it never killed anybody." NOT [ Post Comment ] |
Comment #3 posted by qqqq on March 24, 2002 at 15:35:04 PT |
..""I think it's a great start," attorney Mike Moran of the state Public Defender's office in Wausau said of the new ordinance.
"Juveniles can get involved with treatment but without being labeled delinquent with a first offense.".. ..this reminds me,,I wonder if I will have any luck getting some government funding for my "Marijuana Treatment Center",,where we will teach people how to avoid ever getting busted again...after all,,,,a careful,and mildly paranoid Marijuana smoker,who has been shown the basic principles of living in an obscure, underground,secret agent way,will probably never get busted again,,and this will make it so my program recieves a high "success rating"...who knows,?......I'll then get people like Daryl Strawberry,and Robert Downey jr involved,,,,,,well,,come to think of it,,they havnt been that good at avoiding enforcement trauma,maybe they will need some training.... ..all this is obviously kinda irreverantly silly,,,but that's only if the reader is confused as to whether Marijuana is a "drug",like heroin or Paxil!....Ritalin,,,,now that's a drug,,,Marijuana is an herb... [ Post Comment ] |
Comment #2 posted by DdC on March 24, 2002 at 15:23:30 PT |
Amerika, Amerika by Claire Wolfe http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionantiwodwarriors.showMessage?topicID=40.topic Cannabis Less Risky Than Alcohol/Tobacco, Says Report [ Post Comment ] |
Comment #1 posted by E_Johnson on March 24, 2002 at 14:07:12 PT |
"I think it goes to social mores and what the community wants," Kelz said. "Let's not mix messages. What are we telling the community?" You're telling them that the law should be up to the task of dealing with real humans not the ideal ones they teach us about in Sunday school when we are little simple minded children without the capacity for complex adult thinking. [ Post Comment ] |
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