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  Stop the War on Medical Marijuana
Posted by FoM on March 08, 2002 at 18:32:39 PT
By Bruce Mirken, Marijuana Policy Project 
Source: AlterNet 

medical In an unprecedented full-page ad in the March 6 New York Times, a national coalition of doctors, nurses, medical organizations, celebrities, and more than 300 state legislators asked President Bush to allow patients with serious illnesses to apply for government permission to use marijuana to relieve their symptoms.

Signatories include elected officials from 42 states and the District of Columbia, esteemed television journalists Walter Cronkite and Hugh Downs, former U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Joycelyn Elders, best- selling health author Dr. Andrew Weil, longtime Republican activist Lyn Nofziger (who was aide to Presidents Reagan and Nixon), the American Public Health Association, the National Association of People With AIDS, and the Nurses Associations of California, Hawaii, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Mexico, New York, Virginia, and Wisconsin.

The letter is also signed by such celebrities as Politically Incorrect host Bill Maher, actress Susan Sarandon, and comedian Richard Pryor, who suffers from multiple sclerosis. The letter, ad, and complete list of signatories (including a state-by-state list of elected officials) are available at: http://www.CompassionateAccess.org

The ad features an open letter to President Bush. "Countless seriously ill people are already using marijuana because they and their doctors believe that it is the best medicine for them," the letter states. "These patients should not be treated like criminals." Under current federal law, people who possess even small amounts of marijuana can be sentenced to a year in federal prison, with no exception for medical use.

In signing the letter, Hugh Downs, longtime host of the ABC News program 20/20, noted that he has long questioned laws barring medical use of marijuana. As far back as 1994, he explained in a radio commentary that marijuana "has established therapeutic use in a variety of medical conditions. But, since it is caught up in the hysteria of the drug war, doctors are prohibited from conducting research on marijuana and patients are deprived of its benefits."

"Seriously ill patients should not be threatened by arrest and jail due to their use of a treatment that can relieve their symptoms and suffering," commented American Public Health Association Executive Director Mohammad N. Akhter, M.D., M.P.H. Former U.S. Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders, M.D., agreed, saying, "Seriously ill people should have the benefit of all medications recommended by their physicians, including legal access to medical marijuana. Have we lost all of our compassion, even for the sick and dying?"

Conservative activist Lyn Nofziger added bluntly, "The only people who oppose the use of marijuana for medical purposes are those who have never needed it, or have no member of their family who has needed it."

The federal government still supplies seven patients with government-grown marijuana under the so-called "Compassionate Investigational New Drug" (IND) program begun in 1978, but the program was closed to new patients in 1991. In a 1999 report commissioned by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, the National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine (IOM) suggested that the federal government give seriously ill people legal access to marijuana on a case-by-case basis, much like the IND program. The IOM report noted that such an approach would give relief to suffering patients while also generating useful data.

The government has not acted on the IOM recommendation and, instead, the Bush administration has recently stepped up its enforcement against medical marijuana distribution centers. In a series of raids in California, armed DEA agents have shut down medical marijuana providers who worked closely with local governments and law- enforcement agencies, seizing patient records and forcing thousands of sick people to turn to unreliable and potentially dangerous street sources for their medicine.

"During the 2000 presidential campaign, George W. Bush said that states should be able to address the medical marijuana issue `as they so choose,' but his administration has moved in precisely the opposite direction," said Robert Kampia, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project, which is providing staff time and financial support to the coalition. "Why is our government waging a war on patients when the president keeps saying he needs more resources to fight terrorism? Mr. Bush has warned that when people buy drugs, some of the money goes to criminals and terrorists -- yet his administration's own actions have driven thousands of patients away from locally authorized medical marijuana providers and into the arms of street drug dealers."

The Marijuana Policy Project works to minimize the harm associated with marijuana -- both the consumption of marijuana and the laws that are intended to prohibit such use.

Complete Title: New York Times Ad Urges Bush: Stop the War on Medical Marijuana

Source: AlterNet (CA)
Author: Bruce Mirken, Marijuana Policy Project
Published: March 7, 2002
Copyright: 2002 Independent Media Institute
Contact: info@alternet.org
Website: http://www.alternet.org/
Contact: http://www.alternet.org/contact.html
DL: http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12576

Related Articles & Web Sites:

Marijuana Policy Project
http://www.mpp.org/

Coalition for Compassionate Access
http://compassionateaccess.org/

Medical Marijuana Information Links
http://freedomtoexhale.com/medical.htm

New York Times Medical Marijuana Ad
http://compassionateaccess.org/nytimesad.html

New York Times Ad Sparks Debate
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread12178.shtml


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Comment #35 posted by kaptinemo on March 12, 2002 at 05:49:50 PT:

Talk about yer synchronicities!
Jose's comment brings me back to an earlier one I made in another string:

http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread12180.shtml (all the way at the bottom, first comment)

for the lazy, I'll reprint them here:

"Obesity and it's deadly twin brother arteriosclerosis is rising amongst our population...because of all the fat that is in just about every 'fast food' there is. Removing foods full of hydrogenated oils and replacing them with cold-pressed, unheated hemp oil based ones would drop this trend back down to normal levels.

Oops! Maybe I shouldn't have said that. Sorry, all you DrugWarriors, don't mind me, just go back to your Big Macs consumed while you surveil a pot-heads grow-op - while murderers, rapists and child molestors run loose. Return to your donuts and whipped cream...and gallons of arryhthmia-producing coffee...while you scheme to steal more of our rights under the rubric of "Save the Chil-drun!" Keep getting heavier and heavier until your heart gives out from overwork. That way, those of still around won't have to pay on your Social Security and Medicare.

Hmmmmm...maybe that's the idea, after all..." (Emphasis mine -k.)

Makes you wonder just what the idea really is, doesn't it?

"Conducted by research company Arthur D. Little International, the report found that financial benefits to the Czech government from cigarette duties, income tax for tobacco businesses and customs duty already outweigh the costs of health care, lost working days and fires triggered by cigarettes. The study also noted "indirect positive effects" of early death savings on health care, pensions and welfare, as well as on providing housing for the elderly." (Emphasis mine -k.)

If anything, this alone might explain why cannabis is illegal...and tobacco and alcohol isn't. The more that die from consuming society's only legal intoxicants, the less has to be paid out in social programs. Neat...if you happen to be a soul-less bureaucrat.



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Comment #34 posted by FoM on March 11, 2002 at 17:27:58 PT
dddd
I wanted to wait until later in the day so I could read what you wrote and I must say it's sounds like it was really bad. I'm glad you've kept your humor. I don't know what I'd do in your position. Keep us posted and get well soon.

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Comment #33 posted by Jose Melendez on March 11, 2002 at 05:05:06 PT:

wow.
I tried cigarettes at eight years old, lit it with a magnifying glass in a parking lot, we got chased off by some shopkeeper asking how old we were...

The ER story makes me glad I never got hooked. www.ash.org posts searchable photocopies of thousands of internal documents that show that big tobacco companies all knew that their products sold better when designed to kill.

Here is more about the study in Czechoslovakia:

From:
http://www.unwire.org/unwire/2001/07/18/index.asp#16084

TOBACCO: Philip Morris Report Claims Benefits Of Smokers' Deaths

A controversial study commissioned by Philip Morris to examine the financial costs of smoking includes findings that premature smokers' deaths have economic benefits, after researchers concluded that the Czech government saved $30 million in 1999 by not having to support, house and care for smokers who perished prematurely from tobacco-related illnesses. Because of the tobacco industry, the report found that the Czech Republic was better off in 1999.

Conducted by research company Arthur D. Little International, the report found that financial benefits to the Czech government from cigarette duties, income tax for tobacco businesses and customs duty already outweigh the costs of health care, lost working days and fires triggered by cigarettes. The study also noted "indirect positive effects" of early death savings on health care, pensions and welfare, as well as on providing housing for the elderly.

Remi Calvet, director of communications for Philip Morris, said the report is a "classical economic study," although anti-tobacco campaigners charged that the report is unfounded, unethical and suggests that retired people have no societal value.

"Is it rational or ethical for a society or a government to consider the premature death of its population as preferable? We certainly don't think so," said Douglas Bettcher, coordinator of the World Health Organization's negotiations on a tobacco control treaty.

But Calvet said, "It is just another report aimed at providing data as part of the ongoing debate on tobacco revenues and taxes. We deeply regret any impression that premature death of smokers could represent a benefit for society" (Naomi Koppel, Associated Press, 17 Jul). Calvet did acknowledge, however, that the way the report is presented "could appear rather shocking" (Agence France-Presse/European Internet Network, 17 Jul).

Bettcher said it remains debatable whether cigarettes benefit the economy. A World Bank report last year concluded that it is fairly simple to quantify the economic benefits of smoking, but much more difficult to measure the costs.

Meanwhile, the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids in Washington said the study showed the true nature of Philip Morris. "This report is powerful evidence that the kinder, gentler Philip Morris depicted in the company's US ads is just a wolf in sheep's clothing. It's a wolf that has the gall to tell a government that the early deaths that result from their products are a good thing," said the group's president, Matthew Myers (Koppel, AP).

"I think it's pretty egregious," said Richard Daynard, chair of the Tobacco Products Liability Project. "You don't see other companies doing it ... this is not the normal way we think about the lives of citizens" (BBC Online, 17 Jul).

Earth Times reports that Philip Morris is said to produce 80% of all cigarettes sold in the Czech Republic, and adds that the tobacco giant released the report to Prague authorities in response to concerns raised by the government that the high number of smokers in the country who became sick imposed an unnecessary and unfair burden on national medical and hospital services (Michael Littlejohns, Earth Times, 17 Jul).

Patti Lynn, associate campaign director for the corporate watchdog group Infact, questioned the marketing policy of Philip Morris. "Even if it were true that smokers dying young would save money for the economy, it's a real scary logic on which to base policy," she said (ITN World News, 17 Jul).

Anti-smoking organizations also are questioning the report's validity, saying that it assumes that once cigarette sales have stopped, smokers would not spend their money on other items (BBC Online).

See also:
http://www.scn.org/news/newspeak/pm.html
Philip Morris Sees the Light

After decades of sticking their heads in the sand about the hazards of tobacco, Philip Morris has found a new tactic -- promoting the benefits to society of premature deaths from smoking. A study produced for them by Arthur D. Little, one of the "foremost management consulting firms," found the early deaths of smokers has "positive effects" for society that more than counteract the medical costs of treating smoking induced cancer, etc.

This path-breaking research was limited to smoking in Czechoslovakia. It found that in 1999, despite health care costs for dying smokers, the government still had a net gain of $147.1 million from smoking. From these figures, the American Legacy Foundation calculated the Czech government saved $1,227 per dead smoker. That's a pretty good return, as Philip Morris proudly informed government leaders in the Czech Republic.

Philip Morris has since come in for a flood of criticism and has publicly apologized for the conclusions, which is too bad, because the report makes fascinating reading. It is, as the authors state, "the results of the exercise of our best professional judgement." (Imagine what we'd get if they were having an off day). What makes the study such a model of American scholarship is the care taken to leave no stones unturned. Not only did the Arthur D. Little researchers find out precisely how much early deaths save on health care expenses, housing for the elderly, social security and pensions (something we all wanted to know), they also uncovered savings from premature deaths in areas we non-experts would never dream to look.

Who would think to look at the effect of smoking deaths on unemployment? These authors did, and they found that "replacing those who die early... leads to savings in social benefits paid to the unemployed and in costs of re-training." A wonderful gift to society by smokers.

But it gets even better...
(snip)

See also: http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/08.23.01/open-mic-0134.html



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Comment #32 posted by lookinside on March 11, 2002 at 04:17:40 PT:

DDDD!
Congratulations on repeated and ongoing respiration! Are you completely recovered now? Did they say what exactly happened to make you sick?(I'm always willing to learn from other's experiences!)

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Comment #31 posted by dddd on March 11, 2002 at 02:54:20 PT
alternatives
....Of course,,as soon as I got sick,and could barely breathe,much less smoke,,,,heavenly buds are everywhere..... I remember making brownies in the 70's,,and brewing brackish teas from stems,,,but I had sorta forgot about eating weed,,,,anyway,,I dug up these empty gelatin capsules that I used to use for capping up golden seal... I decided to cap myself up some weed................Now I was a bit disoriented,being sick and all,so I made up 3 tightly packed capsules,(size 00),of this deluxe herbage,and gobbled them up...I sorta forgot that I had taken them.It took over 2 hours before I felt anything...I took my dog out around 3 A.M.,and the sky looked purple....friendly shrubberys had neon linings,,it was wonderful.......it's a different sort of stone from smoking...I have not tried vaporizers,but I am curious....I think that the ol' lungs get clogged after regular smoking.Eating it seems sorta strange with the delayed effects,but it relieves pain in a most pleasant way..........I cannot smoke again...I spent over 30 years doing the idiotic slow suicide of hackin' down coffin nails,,(which somehow taste their best after toking).........cigarettes are dreadful,,,,,,I think ya gotta admit,that purposely inhaling any "smoke",is questionable.................here I am,one of those new non-smoker hypocrites....I'd probably still be smokin' if I hadnt experienced the recent head-on collision with my tombstone..... ............. ......................................
Tombstone dont care if you got insurance or not.............................................................................................dddd .....


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Comment #30 posted by dddd on March 11, 2002 at 01:37:27 PT
part two
........I dont really know what to say about the hugeness of the welcome back comments...'Thank You',is barely adequate..I am honored,,and somewhat flustered.I really appreciate the appreciation.I had no idea my ramblings were so significant....thanks again....
.............So...after 3 hours,my name is called,and I am ushered into a room to see a "triage nurse".She was an older,seasoned gal.She had seen it alll.She took my blood pressure and asked me to describe my problem...I got the vibe that she might be thinkin' that I was fakin' it.She had me sign some papers and sent me to another room where I signed more papers,and was issued one of those little hospital wristband ID's,and sent back to the waiting room...I found a seat in the "childrens area",,,,there was a TV in there,and the next hour whizzed by as I marvelled at seeing The Simpsons,and King of the Hill,in spanish...The loudspeaker says;"Four Dee,,,,,is there a Four Dee here?"....I finally make it into the ER...I am told to remove my shirt,and put on the little gown...This is a University of California Medical Center,and the ER is full of students and young doctors in training,,I undergo numerous interviews,,,wires are attached to my chest with sticky discs for an EKG(?),,xrays and CT scans are taken....I see a group of these young doctors marvelling at the pictures of my lung,,the whole group of about 8 or 10 came in and asked me questions,,poked and stethoscoped me,,then they all left...more xrays,and another MRI type scan,,I think it was about 4:00 A.M. when this doctor comes in and starts asking about my stomach..The new theory was that my stomach had somehow broken through into my chest cavity,and was even up near my shoulder!..(These were some unusual looking xrays and scans)........I told them that I seriously doubted it was my stomach that was in my lung.My digestion was not abnormal enough I argued,and they agreed.
...(I'm gonna go into the more grisslesque stuff now,so proceed with caution if you are sqeamish.)...
...So it is now decided that I must have some sort of strange infection in my lung,and that there is a pocket of trapped air or fluid that was distorting my windpipe,and threatening to collapse my other lung,,so they explained that they were going to insert this big-ass needle into it to release the pressure,and take a sample of what was there..........By this time I had a team of doctors,interns,and nurses hovering around me..I gotta say,that they were really cool people,,I was pleasently suprised by thier humane concern about my pain,and I was further pleasantly suprised to find that they were not shy about giving me generous amounts of morphine.. This one old nurse sort of took a liking to me,and she kept asking me about my pain as they pierced my body,,,and she would yell out;"Let's get some more morphine over here!",,just what I was thinking,but I didnt want to appear as a wimp,or a bogart....
.......So this doctor,who looks like one of the cast of Animal House,,explains what he is going to do,,he has a syringe that's about as big around as a quarter,with a needle about the size of a 8penny finish nail,,,and he is going to insert it into my chest...I'm pretty sure it was the first time he had done this,,,there were other doctors coaching him,numerous onlookers,,,,I watched as he inserted the needle between my ribs,,when he got to a certain point,he unplugged the syringe,and a bunch of air hissed out,,,the he proceeded to suck out a bunch of bright chiffon yellow pus,,,,,gross,,,indeed!..........More xrays and scans and the decision is made to put in a "chest tube"....5:00 A.M. shift change in the ER,,,new doctors come in and interview me,,administrators come in with papers for me to sign,,carts with sterile packages arrive,,a crowd gathers..The doctor who's gonna put the chest tube in has heard the stomach theory,and wants to make sure my stomach is where it should be,so he decides to put a tube down thru my nose into my stomach,and take an xray..this was quite unpleasant,,luckily,the stomach was were it was supposed to be........Then,the doctor puts on this weird pink,pre-fab sterile suit and hood as sterile towels are draped over me and shoved under me....I take a final look before they cover my face with a towel,and there are at least a dozen people assembled to assist or observe.I told the doctor to feel free to use plenty of lydocaine......It wasnt bad at first.....I caught a glimpse of the doctor in his pink bonnet and mask,,he looked like a muppet from hell,,Elmos' evil uncle,'Helmo'........then it started really hurting and I could feel him doing some major stuff,,my feet were kickin' in pain,,,people were holding me down. ..I glimpsed from under the towel to see the whole crowd backing away as wine colored juice sprayed out of the hole in my side..A tube was inserted and stitched in,and hooked to this resivoir/holding tank thing....I felt noticeably better.Everyone marvelled at the amount of fluid that came out....after another xray and scan,I was checked into a room........dddd


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Comment #29 posted by potpal on March 10, 2002 at 20:36:56 PT
ddddelighted...
...you're back and on the mend...didn't mean to post after your tale and not wish you well...the idea I had was like a revelation to me and I was a tad excited...maybe I was high...;-) In any case, welcome back to the front lines...I had spontaneous pneumo thorax (w/subutaneous emphezma(sp?) when I was a teenager...the result of the experience gave me the incentive to quit smoking fags but it took 10 more years to finally eliminate them completely from my life, I never gave up...if I hadn't the sweet herb as a substitute who knows whether or not I'd have been able to do it. These days I smoke cannabis on a binge basis, one week I have some, next 3 don't...perfect candidate for the 'bud of the month' club...when I have I have to smoke it till its gone...just aced a physical, 20 some years later, 20 of which I smoked pot daily...

Anyway, you never did finish your tale. What cured you and how you feelin' now?

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Comment #28 posted by The GCW on March 10, 2002 at 16:38:10 PT
Eterra
http://www.lightwell.net/

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Comment #27 posted by The GCW on March 10, 2002 at 06:18:44 PT
Vaporizers...
The Eterra, vapor-eyes-or, works. I have seen the fish bowl type and used them, but there was some incineration with that type, enough to resinate the inside of the glass. Like hash under glass. The eterra, works. It keeps the smell way down.

Joyce, this is one of the items that shoot your arguement to hell. These devices enable cannabis use, with much much less gasses, tars etc. and IF there is any harms at all of using smoke, this minimizes it. It is one reason the prohibitionist have become exposed as discredited, since we have the knowledge to reduce potential harms associated with smoke, but that is not what the prohibitionists want,,,to reduce harms. They simply want to control, oppress, punish, and accumulate power. The prohbitionist prove perpetually and redundantly, they're goal is not a helpful one.

Lost is not a way to live and go through live. Find the Truth, and you find our Father. The Father of all Truth. Unlike the father of evil, sleeping with prohibitionist whores.

Watch your head as the wall crubles.

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Comment #26 posted by Herbdoc215 on March 10, 2002 at 02:36:49 PT:

In all my travels on the net this is 1st place...
That I have felt anything like true community, we are living proof of the connections fostered by this sacriment we have all have came together to defend from man's hubris. dddd, I have looked forward to reading your comments with my coffee many mornings laughing until the fire fell off my morning joint and I am glad to see your better although you may choke awhile when you get the bill. I can't agree with Jose though cause I never could get used to those vaporizers, guess you gotta start with them as it was always like kissing your sister to me ( she's a girl but it's sure not the same as the real thing, haha ) and being an old school head I'll always love my morning choke and hack period and have drove several hospitals to madness trying to get rid of smell ( I have spent ALLOT of time in traction during 13 spinal fusions, I drive everybody nut's ) although being a disabled veteran I am just now discovering the joy's of no insurance as VA cut me off when I fled to Canada but if I wasn't charged I could have moved here no problem just another marijuana exception to constitution? You should try a Canadian emergacy room, I got food poisoning after moving up here and had to spend few days in hospital, I'll never mention social medicine again I swear, this is crazy as they had people laying in emergancy room for 6/7 DAY'S waiting for beds upstairs, it looked like some scene from inferno- guess it sucks everywhere if your not with the "in" group. Government has really messed up this time though because they have shown many white folks just how it feels to be sent to back of bus and after this nightmare is over, true civil rights reform is sure to follow. Peace, Steven Tuck

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Comment #25 posted by firedog on March 09, 2002 at 21:56:49 PT
Welcome back dddd!
Glad to hear you escaped from the reaper... and interested to see what happens in "redeemed part two."

Did you end up getting some decent service in the ER? I hope you're feeling better and can continue to share your very interesting perspectives with us!

All the best,

Firedog



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Comment #24 posted by freedom fighter on March 09, 2002 at 21:29:36 PT
Glad you are still kicking!
Welcome back dddd,

I think of you all the time.

May Jah shine on you!

ff

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Comment #23 posted by SoberStoner on March 09, 2002 at 19:52:48 PT:

Welcome back
dddd, it's good to see you back on here. people come and go all the time, but some people make this place feel like home, and you're one of them. hopefully you'll be feeling well enough to give us the rest of the story soon, i'm sure it will be interesting.

SS

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Comment #22 posted by Rainbow on March 09, 2002 at 16:46:38 PT
Welcome back to the electron world
DDDD

Thanks for posting and letting us know you are back. I will pray for you tomorrow in Mass. Heck I will say a special intention for you.

Take care, Rainbow

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Comment #21 posted by FoM on March 09, 2002 at 13:53:09 PT
Just My Feelings
As I read all the comments here welcoming dddd back and caring like you all do I am so very proud. I've seen so much hate, jealousy, un forgiveness etc. in my life and since I've been on line and when I see all these great comments it renews my strength. Thank you all for being so kind. This is dddd's thread and I hope he knows that people do really care. This last time I talked to him I felt like I was talking to someone I knew my whole life and that's true. He's a clown as we know, right dddd! and it's wonderful to know he is getting better.

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Comment #20 posted by goneposthole on March 09, 2002 at 13:37:52 PT
Don't undddderestimate the will to survive
Especially when one is terminally ill. If anything about medical marijuana, it will take the edge off, and offer a mind expanded perspective.

I had pneumonia three years ago, and dreamed that I had died. I dreamt I was riding an 1890's vintage passenger train. The other passengers ignored me and said, "He's dead." Pneumonia is not fun, you are sick.

I knew it was time to see a doctor. Otherwise, I would have died. Another of a few times where I almost shuffled off of this mortal coil.

If you are diagnosed with a terminal illness, no one should stand in your way should you decide to use medical marijuana. Who will be harmed?



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Comment #19 posted by SWAMPIE on March 09, 2002 at 12:33:57 PT
dddd,.....IT AIN'T BEEN PRETTY WITHOUT YOU...
You have been in everyones prayers,glad you are still on the green side of the grass!!!!Can't wait for episode#2! You have been through alot.You have missed alot.We Are WINNING!Hope you are into some more good conversation soon. ONWARD THROUGH THE FOG! SWAMPIE

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Comment #18 posted by Dan B on March 09, 2002 at 12:31:13 PT:

Welcome back, dddd!
I'm so glad you are okay and back at Cannabis News. Sorry to hear about your ordeal, yet I'm so glad you are here to tell about it. You build suspense well--I'm looking forward to part II!

Dan B

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Comment #17 posted by Hope on March 09, 2002 at 12:12:54 PT
Dear dddd!
I'm so glad to know you are feeling better. You were missed and it is good to have you back.

Take care of yourself and work on getting stronger. We need you.

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Comment #16 posted by Nuevo Mexican on March 09, 2002 at 11:41:07 PT
dddd is back, it's a matter of fact!
So good to hear from you again. Do you know C-news was not the same without you! Kap is back too, and that good news! I've been moving (current address: Heaven), and have only had time to check in myself. Healing crisis are great learning experiences and mine led to my full time job as an Astrologer. So who knows what's in store for you, but it will be great, based on my experience. Post your birthdate, time and place and I will post a brief reading if you'd like! Freebies are no problem as I have many clients who take care of that! Peace!

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Comment #15 posted by lookinside on March 09, 2002 at 10:37:09 PT:

DDDD!
I'm very glad it wasn't your time...You were sorely missed here...

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Comment #14 posted by Morgan on March 09, 2002 at 10:11:21 PT
DDDD!
Welcome back to our little world. Your words have been missed.

I like to go through my life with the perspective that all that happens to me (you, us), it is all for a reason... it has it's gift ... a lesson we should use to evolve to our higher selves (excuse the pun).

What with your way with words, coupled with your experiences and unique perspective ...

Do I see a book?...screenplay?... in your future?

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Comment #13 posted by el_toonces on March 09, 2002 at 09:16:12 PT:

dddd
GREAT to have you back, in one piece, and without worms:)

El_Toonces (aka msegesta)

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Comment #12 posted by FoM on March 09, 2002 at 09:05:32 PT
dddd
Welcome back! You know you have been missed. People here really have been concerned about you and I'm so glad you are on your way back to good health. Soon we'll see your spit fire again! Til then stay calm and get better friend!

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Comment #11 posted by Dankhank on March 09, 2002 at 08:53:50 PT:

welcome back
Good to see you here 4D.

Wrestling with the Worm King ...

Been there, done that ...

Glad you triumphed ...

Peace and Love to you and all who fight ...

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Comment #10 posted by Ethan Russo MD on March 09, 2002 at 07:20:34 PT:

D4: Great to See You Again
Welcome back, and best wishes. When you are feeling better, a visit from Q4 will be most welcome.

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Comment #9 posted by kaptinemo on March 09, 2002 at 06:59:00 PT:

Welcome home, 4D!
It's good to see you again...and to hear you're better! I believe I can speak for most of us (save for you lurking, shrivelled-soul antis hoping for the worst) that we were more than a little worried...and are so glad you are not worm-fodder.

This is shaping up to be a year of battles; the war of information has stepped up tremendously. This could be the year of the 'tipping point', when the antis are finally put on the defensive; we need every soldier in the fray. And few are as good with the 'weapon of words' as you are.

It's great to have you back!

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Comment #8 posted by Toker00 on March 09, 2002 at 06:52:48 PT
And now for the REST of the story...
Welcome back, me amigo! Sure have missed your colorful posts, and am quite glad you beat the Reeper.

You have GOT to stop collapsing your lung. I know it seems like a good idea at the time, maybe even fun, but the consequences ain't worth it, bro.! Remember, when you exhale, leave a little air in there to prime your next breath.

Good to see you back, bro. (Waiting for chapter II)

Peace. Realize, then Legalize.

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Comment #7 posted by Jose Melendez on March 09, 2002 at 06:03:40 PT:

dddd!
Glad you are back and hope you feel better. The lung story sounds awful. I think you just sold me on a vaporizer, I'm sick of smoking...

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Comment #6 posted by Patrick on March 09, 2002 at 05:31:31 PT
Welcome back dddd!
Glad to hear the worms ain't got you yet!!! Hope you get better soon. I did that emergency room thing years ago when I didn't have insurance. Waited from 10am until 8pm in the long line of no insured people in pain. It sucked is all I can say. Besides cannabis being illegal the lack of a national health care program is another major problem in this sometimes backward ass country. The money spent trying to lock us pot smokers up could be spent for folks in your shoes. I for one would gladly vote to channel the tax dollars being spent trying to track me down for puffin to the uninsured for some sorta health care plan.

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Comment #5 posted by potpal on March 09, 2002 at 04:56:12 PT
An idea...
I'd love to see a parody of one of those commercials that 'push' one of the latest pharmacuetical drugs. Normally, they lay out the illness that the new, legal drug is designed to treat, first see your doctor for a prescription, ask for it by name, then lays out all the side effects.

Using cannabis in place of the legal drug opens up all kinds of possibilities. One I like is the manufacturer! Side effects another, mild case of the munchies and a good nights sleep...

...I m a g i n e

Give pot a chance!

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Comment #4 posted by dddd on March 09, 2002 at 03:19:56 PT
Redeemed....part one
.....Greetings to all my excellent friends,,,,and everyone else... When FoM emailed and told me I was missed,I was, and remain,honored and amazed......so,,even though it's off topic,and perhaps self indulgent,,,I'm gonna tell you about my oddessy in several chapters of my exhaustively condensed ramblings...
................I almost 'bit the big one'.....'kicked the bucket'..........Dam near ended up six feet under on Boot Hill...the worms crawl in,the worms crawl out,,the worms play penuccle on your snout.
.....I dont mean to take death lightly,,,but it is a required part of having the priveledge of Life as a human,, physically,,on Earth ........ anyway......I developed a mysterious sort of infection in my left lung.I thought it was a collapsed lung,or 'pneumo-thorax',,,I had a collapsed lung when I was 20 ,and this felt similar,,shortness of breath ,grissly pain..In early January,I went to the emergency room. (I am one of the uninsured masses.I applied for insurance last year,but my application was declined,,the main reason was that I admitted that I had smoked marijuana in the last 3 months.) ...They took xrays...after a few hours,the mystified young doctors gave me a prescription for vicoden,and discharged me,,recommending I make an appointment with a specialist they refferred me to.... .... ..Anyway,,,I got the vicoden...it helped to mask the pain,,and I called and made the appointment with the "specialist" doctor..The soonest he could fit me in was 2 weeks later.I arrived at his office for the 4:00 appointment at 3:55....an hour later,the "specialist spent less than 5 minutes examining me,gave me a prescription for some Swedish nasal spray that cost $128.00,and he told me my problem was "post nasal drip",and come back and see him again in a couple of weeks....at this point,I was really sick,,,I could barely breath..I kept pretending I was getting better,,taking pride in my high pain threshold,,,,,stubbornly convincing myself that I was kinda startin' to feel better ....I tried to get a hold of some other specialist doctors ....One guy would NOT even see me without insurance.No amount of cash would do......Another bigtime guy said he would see me for $400.00 or $450.00,,,he called me back and told me that without insurance,there wasnt much he could do for me,because without insurance it would be really akward to get xrays and scans at the hospital,,even with cash,,and he wished me luck..
...I went to some cheapo doctor at a walk-in clinic..He was this really polite,nice Indonesian kinda guy,he prescribed a couple of the latest flavors of big drug company inhalers,,,told me to come back in a week...I went back and begged him to give me a prescription for oxygen,(it really helped),,,I told him that I was having trouble sleeping because I was afraid I would not wake up....I told him I felt like I was dying... I could feel and hear the fluid sloshing around in my chest....He suggested that I check myself into the emergency room of the inner city University Medical Center hospital.I went there that evening..It was one of these big city Emergency rooms and during the almost 4 hour wait to be admitted,it was a disturbing freakshow of fresh bulletwound victims from SoCal gangland,,OD's,,freakouts,,babies,,,mentally ill...... I was near death,but somehow,witnessing this grotesque circus of trauma gave me a different perspective.......dddd


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Comment #3 posted by goneposthole on March 08, 2002 at 20:33:56 PT
Here in America
Tom Crosslin is shot to death.

By government agents who one day will receive a pension; the financial burden of the drug war is too great.



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Comment #2 posted by E_Johnson on March 08, 2002 at 19:42:56 PT
Some people have very strong stomachs
This one will crush prohibitionist infrastructure. At some point, the prohibitionist are going to feel sick to their stomaches when they realize they have been caging innocent humans

In Russia after the fall of Communism, I read an interview with Stalin's still-living relatives, one of whom had lost her husband when he was sent to a labor camp for being late to work, evidence of his involvement in a saboteur's plot to wreck Socialism and defeat the worker masses.

She said, "Well, he was late for work, they had him on that. It was bad to be late to work. The fate of the country depended on the workers."

It was her husband, the man she married. She didn't seem sick at all.



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Comment #1 posted by The GCW on March 08, 2002 at 19:16:01 PT
Another one, crushing through to freedom.
This one will crush prohibitionist infrastructure. At some point, the prohibitionist are going to feel sick to their stomaches when they realize they have been caging innocent humans.

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