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Posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 12:51:58 PT
Four compelling stories. Four difficult questions. 
Source: CBS News  

medical Four compelling stories. Four difficult questions. No easy answers. What would YOU do? 48 Hours airs the stories of people faced with complexing and intriguing issues. But we want you to do more than just watch. We want you to weigh in and tell us what you think.

Tonight you'll have the chance to vote. Watch the broadcast, and then go online and be heard. We'll have YOUR results at the end of the broadcast.

Recipe For Trouble? Debbie Jeffries tried everything to help her son eight-year-old son Jeff, who was diagnosed with personality disorder. She gave him almost every prescription anti-psychotic drug on the market. Nothing worked, and she was going to have to give him up to the care of the state: Jeff was a threat to her and anyone around. Then a doctor recommended giving him medical marijuana, in a brownie. In California, medical marijuana is legal, so she tried it. It worked: Jeff became happy and well-behaved. But authorities found out, and she was charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Debbie says that without marijuana, her son is uncontrollable and she won't be able to keep him. What will the judge decide to do?

Who Decides? When Michael Ryan was born 15 weeks premature and possibly suffering multiple birth defects, his parents, Dr. Greg and Traci Messenger, asked doctors not to use extraordinary efforts to save him. But the hospital put the child on life support, later arguing the boy had a good chance to survive and live a normal life. Dr. Messenger and his wife felt differently: they removed their child from the respirator and Michael Ryan died in his parent’s arms. Dr. Messenger was charged with manslaughter. Will he be convicted? Is what he did wrong, or was the hospital wrong for not following the parents’ wishes?

Not With My Daughter: 13-year-old daughter Eden Palmer sometimes slept over at the home of a family friend, Scott Palmer. Eden told her mother, Lori Palmer, that during the sleepovers, Scott sometimes climbed into bed with her. Lori notified police and then took action. She forced Scott to a wooded area and made him confess. He was arrested, but so was Lori, charged with felony kidnapping. Who should go to jail? The molester, or the mother who took matters into her own hands?

Zero Tolerance: High school senior Jenna Stricoff was an honors student. Her father was diagnosed with lung cancer. His dream was to see his daughter graduate. Determined to make that a reality, Jenna accelerated her course load so she would graduate early. But one morning, she drank vodka with friends and went to school under the influence. She was caught, and under the school’s “zero tolerance” policy, she must serve a mandatory one-year suspension. But if Jenna is out a year, her father won’t live to see her graduate. So what does the school do?

* Four compelling stories. Four difficult questions.
* What would YOU do? You'll have the chance to vote
* Watch the broadcast, and then go online and be heard

Source: CBS News
Published: March 6, 2002
Copyright: 2002 MMI, CBS Worldwide Inc.
Website: http://www.cbsnews.com/
DL: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/03/04/48hours/main502787.shtml

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Comment #52 posted by FoM on March 08, 2002 at 13:01:24 PT
Hope
Why don't you ask her? I mean that too.

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Comment #51 posted by Hope on March 08, 2002 at 11:51:19 PT
Wonder how Joyce voted.
She probably voted to take the child from his mother, incarcerate her forever...to send the "right message", and institutionalize the child with forced harsh medication.

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Comment #50 posted by FoM on March 08, 2002 at 10:54:23 PT
My Opinion
I've thought a lot about the little boy since the program. I've seen children like him and they were hard to handle for the parents. I believe that the pharmaceutical drugs didn't help him because they are man made. Cannabis on the other hand is natural and the brain could be made not to be so busy as was said on the show by using this natural medicine. It made me cry when the little boy said he was happy and loved his Mom. That says it all to me.

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Comment #49 posted by The GCW on March 08, 2002 at 10:46:07 PT
That crumbling sound...
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n413/a07.html?397

US TX: PUB LTE: Hale Might Be On The Trail Of Real Justice Newshawk: Dean Pubdate: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 Source: Galveston County Daily News (TX)

HALE MIGHT BE ON THE TRAIL OF REAL JUSTICE

I read Stephen Hale's online visit to the New York Times forum. His ideas seem reasonable, but dismissing minor marijuana cases, if he becomes district attorney, struck me as being extreme.

Last night, on "48 Hours," I was astounded by Dan Rather's report about an 8-year-old boy with bipolar disorder who was disruptive and dangerous to himself and others. He had already been to 16 specialists, but to prevent the state taking her son, his mother took him to one last pediatrician who recommended marijuana brownies.

Within one-half hour, she noted a wonderful difference in the boy's behavior. The state then wanted to take the child because of the marijuana.

Rather disclosed their online poll showed 88 percent thought the child should have continued use. The state has closed the case.

The boy now enjoys a productive life using medical marijuana.

Perhaps Hale is on the trail of real justice.

Pam Johnson, Houston



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Comment #48 posted by FoM on March 08, 2002 at 08:25:35 PT
freedom fighter
She grew up and years later I went to here Wedding. She became a Psychologist. I don't know if the mother's reaction caused him to kill himself but the media attention it brought to the situation was terribly embarassing to her. That I know.

PS: I'm so glad dddd is getting better. He said he thought he wasn't long for this world when he was taken to the hospital the first time. He thought his time was up.



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Comment #47 posted by freedom fighter on March 08, 2002 at 02:18:31 PT
Glad to hear
that this ole bugger, dddd, still kicking..

I pray of this hippy everyday.

ff

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Comment #46 posted by freedom fighter on March 08, 2002 at 01:43:37 PT
Sign of a sick society
Ibsdsne1,

I said I could'nt wait until the law dealt with these perverts. I once put a pervert into a hole for 88 years because that animal harmed 100 or so victims. I was lucky. I can understand why Lori did what she did. The wheel of Justice is some time too slow in term of getting the real sickos off the street. What is even worse is that sometime LAW are so stupid after all they are so busy arresting people for smoking cannabis.

In Lori's mind, she felt she did not have a choice because she do know any other child is in imminent danger from that pervert.

Just while ago in my state, the Law arrested this animal for raping girls at 3 different churchs and do you know what the Law did? They put a 16 yr old girl in a cell with this animal and "he" molested her within the 40 min span. The girl did not report to the cops but she told her lawyer. And now the state is in a very hot water.

I'm being punished by so-called "Justice" for growing just one plant. I can understand your viewpoint but when it comes to real victims, it is another story.

FoM, I do hope that girl will understand that it was never her fault one day.

Mr.X, I feel bad and do understand. Far too many predators are getting off the system while pot growers rotting in our prisons.

Sign of a sick society

ff

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Comment #45 posted by Mr X on March 08, 2002 at 00:09:39 PT
Idbsne1
Do you honestly expect people to be rational and "let the law handle it" when it comes to the sexual molestation of they're child? My current girlfriend was molested by her uncle, her family "let the law handle it" and of course because there is nothing but word agaisnt word in most molestation cases, her Uncle now has remarried and lives a happy life in Upper Michigan with his 2 daughters.

In the case of "Not with my daughter" for example, it was the young girls word against the family "friends'", and without any pyhsical evidence, or more victims, the case probably would have been dismissed, like my girlfriends. He could still get convicted, but without any substantial evidence he probably would have gotten a slap on the wrist.

For molesting a young girl.

So probably one of the smartest things the mother could have done was forced him to confess, and get it on tape.

The law can only do so much.

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Comment #44 posted by Mari on March 07, 2002 at 21:06:19 PT
I Voted
It took me a while to get the site to come up but I voted on all of them. I understand idbsne1's concerns; but I have an 8yr old granddaughter and I can identify with the mother's position. I think her sentence was about right. She didn't go unpunished.

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Comment #43 posted by FoM on March 07, 2002 at 19:35:19 PT
ekim
I just called dddd yesterday after I received an email from him the day before. He just got home from the hospital and had major surgery. They had to remove part of his one lung but he is doing better. I asked him if they found any cancer and he said no. That's wonderful news. He said he had to clean his apartment because it had been a long time since he was well enough to even try. I said that's a good sign of wanting to get back to normal and he said he will be back soon with a letter to explain to us what happened. He's still in pain and weak but getting better every day.

Silly dddd. I called him about a week a go and got this really British accent so I didn't leave a message. He laughed when told him. He has different funny answering messages he uses and I got the British one!

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Comment #42 posted by ekim on March 07, 2002 at 19:01:43 PT:

Thanks FOM your on it like allways
I hope 4d is ok. Miss seeing comments

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Comment #41 posted by FoM on March 07, 2002 at 18:58:07 PT
ekim here it is
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread12165.shtml#5

Today an ad was run in the New York Times. There isn't an article from the newspaper to post but here are details. The Ad PDF File:
http://www.compassionateaccess.org/pdf/nytimesad.pdf

The Ad:
http://www.compassionateaccess.org/nytimesad.html

Walt Could Spend His Final Days In Prison
http://mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n396/a03.html


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Comment #40 posted by ekim on March 07, 2002 at 18:58:04 PT:

Court TV "Guilt by Association" March 13
Fictionalized story of a woman unjustly caught in the web of mandatory sentencing laws. If you miss this show ck www.courttv.com for repeat dates. Then act ask your U.S. Reps. to support H.R. 1978 the bill that would eliminate mandatory drug sentences. Ck FAMM's web site at www.FAMM.org

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Comment #39 posted by ekim on March 07, 2002 at 18:43:29 PT:

was this posted here I missed it
From: Peter Webster Date: Wed Mar 6, 2002 2:10 pm Subject: ! Today's NYT has a full page medical cannabis ad!

ADVERTISEMENT

Subject: MAP: Today's NYT has a full page medical cannabis ad! Sender: owner-maptalk@m... Organization: Media Awareness Project http://www.mapinc.org/

On page A9 of today's New York Times is a full page ad that starts:

WALT COULD SPEND HIS FINAL DAYS IN PRISON INSTEAD OF A HOSPITAL.

Please join the effort to protect patients who need medical marijuana for serious illnesses.

Over 400 legislators, medical professionals, religious leaders, celebrities, and organizations on the local, state and national levels have signed a letter to President Bush asking him to allow people with AIDS, cancer, and other serious illnesses to use medical marijuana if they have the approval of their physicians ...

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For details about the ad, and the list of folks who signed the open letter, click this link: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n396/a03.html

Pubdate: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 Source: New York Times (NY) Page: A9 Contact: letters@n... Website: http://www.nytimes.com/ Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/298 Note: The full-page ad is on line as a .pdf file at http://www.compassionateaccess.org/pdf/nytimesad.pdf Details about the ad, produced by the Coalition for Compassionate Access are online at http://www.compassionateaccess.org/ The text below, from the http://www.compassionateaccess.org/ website, does not do the ad justice. Also it may not reflect the exact text of the ad.

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Comment #38 posted by FoM on March 07, 2002 at 17:19:07 PT
True Story
It is common to fly off the handle when a child has been sexually abused but I had a dear sweet little girl as a riding student. She was everything the parents wanted in a child. They never let her stay anywhere but with her Aunt and Uncle. Without going into detail the girl told her mom what was going on and she went ballistic and understandable so. She went into the police department and was freaking out. She went to the Uncle and told him off really bad and left and when they came to arrest him he killed himself. Sometimes we need to be careful before we react because we need to think about the long term consequences of what we decided to do. It caused the child terrible guilt and grief and she always looked sad after that happened.

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Comment #37 posted by idbsne1 on March 07, 2002 at 16:53:06 PT
I see....
I actually didn't get the WHOLE story, I apologize. The written segment did not mention that she ASKED him in the car...

freedomfighter...I understand, but to "protect" them is one thing, but to "punish" the "accused" is another, right?....

even you said, "I'll let the law deal with these perverts. "

Trust me,....lol...I understand sometimes giving people what they deserve sounds good, but again as EJ mentioned (good words) there are people who feel that STRONGLY about MJ or DRUGS....should WE be taken out back to be "punished"?

I mean we're talking about how Bill O'Reilly sounds like an ass saying things like we should be more like Singapore and China and have MORE DRACONIAN laws? And to lock EVERYONE up?

Again, I would have done the same, and "protected" anyone from imminent harm...but can I make that person strip down naked? And/or kick him/her and beat him/her without consequences? I'm not so sure that would be a liveable society....

idbsne1

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Comment #36 posted by FoM on March 07, 2002 at 15:40:24 PT
freedom fighter
I voted on all of them. I found the interactivity of the program interesting and on tough issues too.

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Comment #35 posted by freedom fighter on March 07, 2002 at 15:24:32 PT
curious to know
how many have bothered to vote in on these issues, especially the med-pot..

ff

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Comment #34 posted by freedom fighter on March 07, 2002 at 15:21:24 PT
well, ibdsne1
This is a fine line. I understand your viewpoint. For example, a 5 year old girl got killed skiing couple weeks ago in my state and now, the people were talkin about making a new law forcing children to wear helments while on the slopes. That is going too far but however, if I see a pervert trying to hurt a child or a lady, I would take the law in my hands and tear that pervert's head off. From my experience in past, I have stopped two perverts from beating the ladies by diverting them, forcing them to deal with me instead. I could'nt just say oh well, I'll let the law deal with these perverts.

If I see a father spanking his kid, that's fine but if I see him using his fists on his kid. That's a different story.

ff

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Comment #33 posted by FoM on March 07, 2002 at 14:32:24 PT
idbsne1
I voted and had a real hard time because I don't agree that taking the law in your own hands is a wise thing to do in a situation like she was in but the question didn't give an option to was she guilty of anything but kidnapping. He was a friend and she was furious and told him to get in the car and you know the rest of the story but I just don't think she kidnapped him.

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Comment #32 posted by idbsne1 on March 07, 2002 at 14:10:23 PT
yeah, but....
What about the 80% that said that Lori Palmer did the right thing? Huh?

As horrible as the act might be....she (a retired police officer) reported the incident to the police. Then SHE decided they weren't acting fast enough? What? ONLY a LEO would have that much arrogance to take the law into their own hands... especially someone who SHOULD know about the law....that's just ridiculous, the situation can be replaced by a myriad of situations; as EJ pointed out, the grower comparison....

This country has got to get over their "save the children" mentality, because it has blinded them from truth and reasonability...

idbsne1

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Comment #31 posted by overtoke on March 07, 2002 at 13:41:35 PT:

People who voted
Those 11% of people were :

People who say "We'll, 'NO,' because it is illegal." People who are brainwashed by certain government agencies, religious parties, political parties and insane anti-social parent groups. People SO STONED they thought the government was monitoring their vote :D

We know who we need to educate. The paranoia will dissappear when the insanity of the drug war dissappears.

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Comment #30 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on March 07, 2002 at 10:19:43 PT
Voting is officially over
FINAL RESULTS: Yes: 89% No: 11%

Who are these 11%? Do the narcs and quacks themselves vote on this sort of thing, or is there really 11% of the general population who would separate this child from his mother because she found a solution which they could not accept??

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Comment #29 posted by Elfman_420 on March 07, 2002 at 01:50:22 PT
Poll Results:
Mercy... Or Murder? When Michael Ryan was born 15 weeks premature and possibly suffering multiple birth defects, his parents, Dr. Greg and Traci Messenger, asked doctors not to use extraordinary efforts to save him. But the hospital put the child on life support, later arguing the boy had a good chance to survive and live a normal life. Dr. Messenger and his wife felt differently: they removed their child from the respirator and their son died in his parents' arms. Dr. Messenger was charged with manslaughter. Should he have been charged with manslaughter for removing his son from life support? VOTE! RESULTS AS OF 2AM ET: Yes: 20% No: 80%

Rough Justice: When retired Wichita, KS Police Officer Lori Palmer discovered that her long-time friend Scott Phillips might be a child molester, she did what every good citizen might do - she reported him to the police. But when she felt they weren't going to act fast enough, she decided to take matters into her own hands. That's because the child Phillips had molested was Lori's own daughter. She picked up Phillips in her car, drove him to a field just outside of town and forced him to confess. Phillips was arrested, but so was Lori Palmer, charged with felony kidnapping. Should she have been charged with kidnapping for taking matters into her own hands? VOTE! RESULTS AS OF 2AM ET: Yes: 20% No: 80%

A Father's Dream: High school senior Jenna Stricoff was an honors student. Her father was diagnosed with esophageal cancer. His dream was to see his daughter graduate. Determined to make that a reality, Jenna accelerated her course load so she would graduate early. But one morning, she drank vodka with friends and went to school under the influence. She was caught, and under the school’s “zero tolerance” policy, she must serve a mandatory one-year suspension. But if Jenna is out a year, her father won’t live to see her graduate. Should the school make an exception to its zero tolerance policy in Jenna's case? Should the school make an exception to its zero tolerance policy in Jenna's case? VOTE! RESULTS AS OF 2AM ET: Yes: 58% No: 42%

Recipe For Trouble: Debbie Jeffries of Rocklin Ca. has a troubled child. Eight-year-old Jeff has been diagnosed with a long list of behavioral disorders. Sixteen doctors and powerful prescription medication couldn’t stop Jeff’s violent, uncontrollable outbursts. Last May, authorities concluded Jeff was a danger to himself and others and were about to place him in a county run facility. Then a doctor recommended giving Jeff marijuana. In California, medical marijuana is used to treat pain from illnesses like cancer and AIDS. Debbie took a chance that it might also help Jeff. It did. He became happy and well behaved. But when Child Protective Services found out, Debbie says they accused her of being an unfit mother and putting Jeff at risk. Now a judge must decide if Debbie can continue giving Jeff the drug. Without it, Debbie says she can’t control Jeff and will be forced to hand him over to the county. Should Debbie be allowed to keep giving her 8-year-old son medical marijuana? Should Debbie be allowed to keep giving her 8-year-old son medical marijuana? VOTE! RESULTS AS OF 2AM ET: Yes: 89% No: 11%



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Comment #28 posted by E_Johnson on March 06, 2002 at 23:04:44 PT
The medications they give children in custody
I'm not surprised that the child welfare people were open minded in this case, because I have read in the LA Times that there is a lot of frustration within that whole system over the problems of administering medication to children in their care, getting the right medication tot he right kid, making sure they're not being mismedicated or overmedicated or undermedicated or sporadically medicated.

A lot of kids in the system are on medication. It's not a system that can maintain an illusion of being "drug free".

There's a kid getting a medication that apparently works, he has a safe loving home and gets his dose monitored by his mother. The state has to spend far less money on his care than ever before because he is getting better.

With all of the expensive ongoing and repeated horror stories they have to deal with in child welfare, it's no surprise that they decided not to mess with this situation and leave well enough alone.



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Comment #27 posted by E_Johnson on March 06, 2002 at 22:56:29 PT
That was way cool
Soccer mom, praying, tears, nice neighborhood, very middle class... talk about mainstreaming medical marijuana!

Grandma helping to cook the weed.

It was also a nice reminder to the public that Big Pharm solutions to illness are not always available.



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Comment #26 posted by E_Johnson on March 06, 2002 at 22:23:26 PT
About the child molestor story
Suppose this was instead a story about someone caught growing marijuana, and some ex-cop decided to do drive the grower out into some field somewhere and force the grower to srip naked on frozen ground and confess. There are people who feel that emotionally about marijuana, as emotionally as they would feel about a child molestor.

How many kids do we have to sacrifice to the rule of law? That's a scary thing to hear someone say. The world would be a lot more dangerous to kids without the rule of law.



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Comment #25 posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 22:12:15 PT
EJ Let Us Know What You Think
It's getting late and I'm getting tired but I'm interested in reading your reaction after you view the program.

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Comment #24 posted by E_Johnson on March 06, 2002 at 22:02:26 PT
I'm about to watch it now
It's on right now. I can hardly wait. It's good to get out that news that there are mental problems that marijuana can treat. All those cannabinoid receptors are in there for a reason. There must be some kind of disorders caused by cannabinoid receptors that don't work right. Maybe that is what caused the boy's illness to begin with. They ought to look into that, seriously.

:-)



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Comment #23 posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 21:47:14 PT
SoberStoner
It was a good program and Dan Rather talked at the end about how sometimes people will take the law into their own hands when there is no other choice. He talked about the raid on the medical marijuana club and the inability to get marijuana even under California's medical marijuana law. They did a very good piece on our issue. It was great and I'm sorry you missed it.

My brother in law this past week took himself off a respirator. He didn't die for a day and a half and it was hard for the family to watch but that was his wish. He had Muscular Dystrophy and he couldn't even breath without the respirator but his mind was fine. They have 8 children and found out it is 50 percent hereditary for more then one generation and 2 of the 3 boys already have been diagnosed. Hard to make life decisions isn't it?

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Comment #22 posted by SoberStoner on March 06, 2002 at 21:38:08 PT:

Yay
It's nice to see that there are a lot of people out there with at least SOME common sense, but my bet is you'll never hear anything about those results anywhere in corporate media. While it's nice to see all the support, that doesnt change the laws or the fact that people are in jail or facing jail for using this highly favored treatment.

I'm sorry i missed it, (i tried watching it the first time it was supposed to be on and it wasnt) but i'm glad i didnt see that part with the baby on the respirator, my own child was in ICU for 3 months after he was born..there were a few close calls, but thankfully he made it through and is doing fine..i would not want to be in that father's shoes, even though i nearly was.

SS

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Comment #21 posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 21:37:11 PT
Mari
I saw them on the program. That's why I can't give the actual percentage except for the mother and son and marijuana because I forgot but remembered how they leaned one way or the other. They all went the way I voted. Even the mom that took the law into her own hands because of the assault on her daughter.

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Comment #20 posted by Mari on March 06, 2002 at 21:32:55 PT
Thanks
Thanks FoM. I'm helping a friend and have to use her computer and it was refusing to co-operate!! Where did you get the vote tallies?

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Comment #19 posted by freedom fighter on March 06, 2002 at 20:59:42 PT
88% Victory for TRUTH!
I'm happy....

ff

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Comment #18 posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 20:27:05 PT
Mari
It was very close on the girl whose father was dying. The poll was for her but the actual ruling was against her. I don't remember the figure though. On the father who turned off life support it was in strong favor of his innocence.

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Comment #17 posted by Mari on March 06, 2002 at 20:15:32 PT
Vote Tallies
I was having a hard time with the computer and missed the outcome of votes. Also, I missed the verdicts for the girl who's father is dying and the man who took his baby off the respirator. Could anyone update me or give me a link??

Thanks.

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Comment #16 posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 20:00:01 PT
It made me cry
88 percent in favor of allowing the mother to give marijuana to her son! Wow!

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Comment #15 posted by goneposthole on March 06, 2002 at 19:42:33 PT
Bill O'Reilly
It's OK by me if he smokes pot in his basement.



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Comment #14 posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 19:35:36 PT
Remember to Vote!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/03/04/48hours/main502787.shtml

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Comment #13 posted by E_Johnson on March 06, 2002 at 19:15:02 PT
Oh no!
Yes! Bill O'Reilly just said he didn't care about people smoking pot "in their basement" -

Darn! They don't have basements where I live! >8-0

;-)



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Comment #12 posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 18:35:17 PT
Legalizing all drugs
It is hard to imagine a person getting his or her hands on unlimited amounts of USP Methamphetamine. It makes me grin just thinking what it would be like. I see a person whose hair is standing on end and eyes are as big as a saucer and non stop talk, talk and talk some more but it should be those that love the person to deal with the person and try to get them to slow down not a judicial system. Just my 2 cents.

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Comment #11 posted by monvor on March 06, 2002 at 18:17:29 PT
Am I dreaming
I was braced to see my beloved LP rep ripped to shredds by the not so spin zone. I almost have some hope here that we are being heard.

Legalizing ALL drugs is a reach, but certainly, what a wonderful place the U.S. would be if the weed was freed.

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Comment #10 posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 18:09:17 PT
O'Reilly
He said he doesn't care about someone smoking pot in their basement. He was rude but I was shocked when I heard him say that. I don't think he ever said anything before about pot being ok.

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Comment #9 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on March 06, 2002 at 18:08:03 PT
Stunned I am!!
Yes! Bill O'Reilly just said he didn't care about people smoking pot "in their basement" - but if they got behind the wheel of a car then he'd mind. He said he thinks we should "decriminalize pot" - keeping in mind that this often doesn't mean quite what we want to mean, but in light of the other comment, everyone in Dobbstown had trouble believing their ears tonight!!

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Comment #8 posted by mayan on March 06, 2002 at 18:06:50 PT
O'Reilly Sucks!
O'Reilly wouldn't even let Mr. Crickenbarger finish a sentence! What an idiot!

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Comment #7 posted by Snatchmo on March 06, 2002 at 18:01:34 PT
I don't believe what I just heard...
Oreilly just said "I'd legalize pot." Apparently he has a little sense.



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Comment #6 posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 17:03:02 PT
It's 8 now
I have a terrible time with O'Reilly. He is arrogant and self righteous but it might be interesting to see. I want to hear what they say about the ads but I'm sure I'll get upset with O'Reilly. He upsets me when I see his face and that's all. That's bad of me but the truth. Can't help it.

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Comment #5 posted by mayan on March 06, 2002 at 16:59:00 PT
Unrelated...
but very interesting! Supposedly, 7 of the 19 alleged hijackers on 9/11 are STILL ALIVE!!! Some good links from BBC news & other news sites in this link! http://rense.com/general20/alives.htm

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Comment #4 posted by potpal on March 06, 2002 at 16:31:45 PT
O'Reilly
Don't expect any support from this guy. He's a rabid anti. But I reckon the exposure won't hurt...might even be interesting.

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Comment #3 posted by mayan on March 06, 2002 at 16:22:31 PT
Cool FoM...
just found out myself!

Ron Crickenbarger,the Libertarian Party's Political Director, will make a short appearance & is supposed to talk about the LP's drug war ad that appeared in the USA Today & the Washington Times.

Dont forget to watch & contact the Fox News site afterwards & tell them how you feel!!! - 8:00 P.M.(ET)

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Comment #2 posted by xxdr_zombiexx on March 06, 2002 at 16:20:11 PT
My Living Will
Part of my living will - a document created to keep me from suffering needlessly should something bad happen to me - is that I will be shot dead immediately if I ever become like Rush Limpball or this O'reilly character.

Anti-intellectual fascists. They make me look bad as an American

FREEDOM ENDURES.

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Comment #1 posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 13:17:40 PT
The O'Reilly Factor for March 6th - LP on Drug Ads
Guests and Topics: March
Wednesday, March 06, 2002

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,1315,00.html

Tonight...The O'Reilly Factor is on...is Jane Fonda as much of a traitor as John Walker Lindh?! That's what one man is saying in a controversial argument. We'll hear from both sides.

Then, is National Public Radio biased against liberals and other people who don't share their world view? Wait till you hear what one author has to say!

Plus, you might not believe this but the Libertarian party says that the drug czar is responsible for America's drug problem! What?! We'll have a report.

Finally, could suburban sprawl be the cause of America's health problems? That's what the Sierra Club thinks and they're trying to do something about it. We'll hear from the group's representative, Melody Flowers, this evening.

All that and much more on tonight's rundown. Don't forget our famous Talking Points memo and "The Most Ridiculous Item of the Day."

See you in the No Spin Zone for The O'Reilly Factor this evening at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET!

— All guests and topics are subject to change. Do you have a question or a comment about The O'Reilly Factor? Send your comments to: oreilly@foxnews.com

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