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  Heavy Pot Use Impairs Brain, New Study Finds
Posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 07:53:04 PT
By David Perlman, Chronicle Science Editor 
Source: San Francisco Chronicle  

cannabis A three-city study of heavy marijuana users has found that long-term pot smoking impairs brain function, scientists report today.

In an elaborate study of more than 150 men and women being treated for dependence on the weed, the researchers concluded that even many hours after the subjects' last joint, their memory proved defective, and so was their ability to concentrate, to solve problems involving numbers and words, and to resist distraction.

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Comment #19 posted by FoM on March 09, 2002 at 11:40:01 PT
Richard
I've always minded broken links. Most newspaper web sites don't archive their articles. When anyone posts a link to an article in a comment section I know it won't work very long. That's the reason why posting the whole article is so important or how will anyone ever learn anything?

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Comment #18 posted by Richard Lake on March 09, 2002 at 10:48:55 PT:

Yes, comments are good!
There was never any question that when the cannabisnews items had to be snipped, the comments had to be saved.

A very key part of any 'fair use' argument, in my personal opinion, is that we need to see the articles to make the comments. Links are not an acceptable replacement, in my opinion, as they are often bad before we can even comment.

Thus you who comment here could help to make our argument if we end up having our day in court. Please use the comments systems at both cannabisnews and MAP!

Richard

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Comment #17 posted by Richard Lake on March 09, 2002 at 10:39:10 PT:

[Remainder snipped] at MAP
For those sources only that are [Remainder snipped] items at MAP, a new program has been put into place where we are asking newshawks to supply a lead line:

Webpage:

Followed by the URL to the actual article (does not include LTEs as they, not being owned by the sources, are never snipped).

While it will take time to work all the bugs out and get most hawks doing it, it is already working fairly well. For an example of the results, see:

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n414/a07.html

These Webpage: links are going into a special field in the MySQL archives database. Each night all the Webpage: links are checked for bad links, and hopefully those which have gone bad are removed.

This is just one of a number of steps being taken in relation to the [Remainder snipped] sources.

Richard

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Comment #16 posted by FoM on March 07, 2002 at 12:54:10 PT
Jose
That's a good idea. I'll make sure Richard see's this thread again if he gets busy and doesn't check back. The thing that is good is we were able to save the comments. That's very important to me.

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Comment #15 posted by Jose Melendez on March 07, 2002 at 12:42:18 PT:

mapinc.org, I mean
I understand thet FoM links to the article on cannabisnews.com

I meant please do the same on mapinc.org, so if an article is snipped, a reader can get the rest of the story...

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Comment #14 posted by Jose Melendez on March 07, 2002 at 12:39:58 PT:

please...
Please try to at least link to where the article is published, if you must snip.

Peace, and thanks for helping arrest prohibition.

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Comment #13 posted by DebaterAmy on March 07, 2002 at 12:36:31 PT:

Stupid Government
If you legalized marijuana, liscensed growers could cultivate it so that it didn't have such devastating effects on the lungs and the potency could be controlled. Just like when they tried to outlaw alcohol, moonshine was lethal sometimes. This smacks of totalitarianism. Propoganda is everywhere now, and they're altering the facts to look one certain way. Stupid government.

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Comment #12 posted by FoM on March 07, 2002 at 12:09:20 PT
Richard
I was just thinking and listening to music and the song came on by John Lennon, Power To The People. I say his words to you and everyone who reads this. Power To The People Right On!

PS: Bless Your Heart.

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Comment #11 posted by FoM on March 07, 2002 at 11:06:07 PT
Thank You Richard
I appreciate you and all of Mapinc. and Drug Sense. You're the best!

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Comment #10 posted by Richard Lake on March 07, 2002 at 10:59:19 PT:

'Snipped'
You may have noticed that the above article is 'Snipped,' that the whole article is not shown.

Expect to see more of this in the future, at least until the issue is resolved.

The issue is rather simple. A small group of newspaper chains and a few individual newspapers appear to be unable to understand the concepts built into 'fair use' as it applies to 501(c)3 educational non-profits under both U.S. law and international treaty.

Just as they did last Fall with the DrugSense sister news site www.mapnews.org the legal departments of these chains/papers are now making legal demands that their news items be removed from cannabisnews.

For the most part these demands are being made to the legal site owner, DrugSense, rather than to Martha (FoM) or any other volunteer.

Once these demands are made they are turned over to the expert DrugSense legal team for appropriate action. When the legal team advises that items be 'snipped' pending resolution of the legal questions that is what is done.

As a volunteer, just like Martha, I am not in the loop about discussions between the legal team and the DrugSense board of directors, so there is not much that I can say. Even if I did know more, I would not disclose in this public forum what actions may or may not be under consideration or in play.

Personally I have to wonder why they are picking on us? When sources know full well that cannabisnews presents news items only to allow public discussion - and how else can they be discussed if you are unable to read them - on this important issue I have to suspect that some of this could be based on politics. Is the ONDCP, DEA or PDFA leaning on them? We may never know.

It would also be interesting to know if they are also going after the tens of thousands of other websites, many clearly commercial, for profit, sites, which also have copies of news stories from these very same sources?

Unlike www.mapinc.org where about 60 news items are posted each day, Martha can pick the handful she feels appropriate for discussion. If a good story is from one source that is making these demands, she can likely find another source that is not.

Thus while a search of cannabisnews will show a small number of 'snipped' items in the past, 'snipped' new items in the future will likely be very rare.

The bottom line is that both Martha and I are not involved - are not in the loop - when it comes to these legal questions. We talk frequently, and, like you, look forward to appropriate resolution of the questions.

Although we can hope that you would not, some of you may wish to discuss this. Remember that anything you write could be held against DrugSense in a court of law some day. Thus the less said here the better.

Richard

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Comment #9 posted by Elfman_420 on March 06, 2002 at 13:39:40 PT
SAME STUDY, DIFFERENT ARTICLE
Here are some excerpts I read about the same study in a yahoo news article:

"Marijuana users who seek drug treatment do not necessarily reflect users in general, since these individuals may have other health issues such as anxiety or depression."

"This does not mean the drug caused brain damage in these cases, she said, explaining that the impairments seen in long-time users were "relatively subtle." "But although such deficits, if prolonged or irreversible, would be of "grave concern," other studies have found no such impairments in long-time marijuana users, according to Pope, a researcher at Harvard Medical School and McLean Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts."

"In this study, nearly half of the long-time marijuana users had in the past regularly used or abused alcohol or other drugs."

"[In a different study] Pope and his colleagues recently found "virtually no significant differences" between heavy marijuana users and non-users on a battery of neuropsychological tests."



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Comment #8 posted by DdC on March 06, 2002 at 11:41:36 PT
Racist Nazi Fascism Might Cause Problems,Not ganja
Never did in thousands of years of use from China to India. Check these "researchers" money and you'll find their vested ignorance in the results. Always does. From Rayguns Bush monkey test to heart attacks to growing breast on boys to this latest Reefer Mad Bushit. Burn down the Yellow Journals! Fascist profits over health is the name of their game. FoM is this garbage really worthy of posting?
Peace, Love and Liberty
DdC

Info exchange: Cannabis
http://www.infoxchange.net.au/ydanews/spring94.htm
"In regard to the moral effects of the drugs, the commission is of the opinion that their moderate use produces no moral injury what so ever..."

-Report of the British East Indian Hemp Commission.1894.

Around that time one Harry Anslinger, the chief of the U.S. Bureau of Narcotics, found that people were listening with some concern, when he spoke of marijuana (which, by the way, is not a narcotic) as "..the foremost menace to life, health and morals in the list of drugs used in America". Most of this interest may be found in the coincidence of use in America at that time being in the Black and Hispanic populations, who were, in a depressed economy, being seen by the white population as unwanted surplus labour. As his outcries against marijuana advanced, so did Anslinger's career (shades of Joseph McCarthy).

The USA Merck Manual of Diagnosis and Therapy 1987
"Cannabis can be used on an episodic but continual basis without evidence of social or psychic dysfunction. In many users the term dependence with its obvious connotations, probably is mis-applied... The chief opposition to the drug rests on a moral and political, and not toxicologic, foundation".

Dementia Associated With Alcoholism

American Description

Diagnostic Criteria

Impairment in short- and long-term memory
At least 1 of the following:
Impairment in abstract thinking
Impaired judgment
Other disturbances of higher cortical function
Personality change
Memory impairment and intellectual impairment caused
significant social and occupational impairments
Absence of occurrence exclusively during the course of Delirium
Memory loss followed prolonged, heavy ingestion of alcohol
Exclusion of all causes of memory loss other than alcoholism

Associated Features

Learning Problem
Dysarthria/Involuntary Movement
Hypoactivity
Psychotic
Depressed Mood
Somatic/Sexual Dysfunction
Addiction
Sexually Deviant Behavior
Odd/Eccentric/Suspicious Personality
Anxious/Fearful/Dependent Personality
Dramatic/Erratic/Antisocial Personality

Differential Diagnosis

Normal process of aging; Delirium; Schizophrenia; Major Depressive Episode; Factitious Disorder with Psychological Symptoms; Alcohol Amnestic Disorder; other causes of Dementia.
http://www.canjneurolsci.org/21maytoc/alcoholi.htm

Alcohol Dementia Directory
http://home.sufia.net/user/outreach/al-d.htm

Related Links
http://alcoholism.about.com/health/alcoholism//?once=true&

Cannabis Prevents Brain Damage
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=24.topic

Cannabis May Offer Protection Against Tumors
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionffffhyperlinked.showMessage?topicID=4.topic

Cannabis Blocks Irreversible Brain Damage
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionffffhyperlinked.showMessage?topicID=3.topic

The Hype Brain Damage in Dead Monkeys
(Rayguns suffocates Bonzo)
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=50.topic

1968 UK ROYAL COMMISSION, THE WOOTTON REPORT:
"Having reviewed all the material available to us we find ourselves in agreement with the conclusion reached by the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission appointed by the Government of India (1893-94) and the New York Mayor's Committee (1944 - LaGuardia)that the long-term consumption of cannabis in moderate doses has no harmful effects" "the long-asserted dangers of cannabis are exaggerated and that the related law is socially damaging, if not unworkable"


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Comment #7 posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 10:42:11 PT
Ah Dr. Russo
Good to see you and we just love you for what you are doing.

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Comment #6 posted by Ethan Russo MD on March 06, 2002 at 10:35:58 PT:

Nice Ad
I am very pleased that my name was attached to the Coalition for Compassionate Access ad along with other outstanding Americans who believe in the truth, and are willing to stand up to the lies and propaganda. Congratulations to the Marijuana Policy Project for their work on this.

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Comment #5 posted by FoM on March 06, 2002 at 09:57:17 PT
Off Topic: New York Times Medical Marijuana Ad
Today an ad was run in the New York Times. There isn't an article from the newspaper to post but here are details.

The Ad PDF File:
http://www.compassionateaccess.org/pdf/nytimesad.pdf

The Ad:
http://www.compassionateaccess.org/nytimesad.html

Walt Could Spend His Final Days In Prison
http://mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n396/a03.html


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Comment #4 posted by freddybigbee on March 06, 2002 at 09:42:39 PT:

Poor Sample Selection
"Solowij and her colleagues, including scientists in the United States, studied 102 heavy pot smokers seeking treatment for their drug use."

The sample is seriously flawed. People seeking treatment obviously have some sort of problem.

To study tokers vs non, you would want to select subjects at random from the population, score their tests, then determine their usage history and analyze scores for various usage categories (non-user, short-term, long-term, light, heavy, etc).

To study out-of-control individuals who seek treatment and consider them representative of the population at large is just silly. Did these researchers ever take a college science course?

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Comment #3 posted by SpaceCat on March 06, 2002 at 09:26:48 PT
Loser's Club
This is the equivalent of what they used to do in High School (and I just saw it again on TV, with the "new pot" twist, 20 years later!) where they trot out the biggest losers you ever saw, and have them confess about how their evil addiction to pot let them to this state.

This was clearly bull even in HS, with its cross-section of people who smoked pot: Jocks, Brains, Beauty Queens, whatever, in addition to the losers who were like that whether they smoked pot or not.

I've always observed that pot doesn't cause laziness or the so-called "amotivational syndrome", just makes it much more tolerable if you are already like that. Pretty sad when you realize that these people never get help for their real problems, since the focus is on pot or drugs in general as the cause of their problems rather than as a symptom of underlying issues.

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Comment #2 posted by goneposthole on March 06, 2002 at 09:25:32 PT
Studying the wrong substance
Heavy alcohol use is going to impair not only the brain, but also the other organs of a human body. Alcohol abuse is tragic. Millions of lives ruined.

Marijuana has been used for eons. It's long-term use withstands the test of time.

Prohibition does not work. It never will.

Leagaleyes

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Comment #1 posted by potpal on March 06, 2002 at 08:29:27 PT
Parrot talk...
I reckon this garbage will get passed around again and again and again by anti's and comics and in the end somebody might believe it. Too bad the media won't repeat any of the 'good' cannabis research...more than once.

Is it any coincidence that JAMA is spouting this 'research' in light of the fact that they have a lot to lose, patient-wise, when the sweet herb is free to be.

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