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  Terrorism Link in Drug Ads Whips Up Backlash
Posted by FoM on February 28, 2002 at 09:18:12 PT
By Ray Delgado, Chronicle Staff Writer 
Source: San Francisco Chronicle  

justice The ad is like others you've probably seen lately, an overblown sullen face that serves as a backdrop to statements about drugs. Only this time, the face featured on the advertisement is that of President Bush, who is accused of deceiving the American public by linking the war on drugs to terrorism.

Sponsored by the Drug Policy Alliance, a New York-based nonprofit focusing on reforming U.S. drug policies, the ad was to appear today in the pages of Roll Call, a Capitol Hill newspaper.

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Comment #17 posted by MikeEEEEE on February 28, 2002 at 21:01:32 PT
AHHHHHH!!!
I didn't see this ad close before.

Scary stuff.

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Comment #16 posted by Jose Melendez on February 28, 2002 at 19:52:25 PT:

here's the backlash
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n353/a01.html?397

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Comment #15 posted by FoM on February 28, 2002 at 19:19:48 PT
Here's The Ad in PDF Format
http://www.lp.org/action/files/!drugwar.pdf

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Comment #14 posted by MikeEEEEE on February 28, 2002 at 19:11:04 PT
Who are the real terrorists???
This article made me wonder who the real terrorists are, it's worth a look.

The Enron-Cheney-Taliban Connection? Enron is a scandal so enormous that it's hard to wrap your mind around it. Not just a single financial disaster, it's actually a jigsaw of interlocking scandals, each outrageous in its own right. http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12525



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Comment #13 posted by Jose Melendez on February 28, 2002 at 18:27:09 PT:

Ddc
[b]Does anyone have a gif url for the ad?[/b]*

I tried to convert rthe original pdf, got frustrated that photoshop stripped out the text, and gave up. There is a jpeg at:

http://www.lp.org/lpnews/0203/drugad.html

* also, try

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Comment #12 posted by DdC on February 28, 2002 at 17:36:52 PT
Response by Ron Crickenberger & Recognition to CN
No Bystanders!!! YOU either directly and openly OPPOSE Bushit WoD Terrorism or NOT,
and support it!!!
Thanks Ron and the LP
Greens and Crats?
DdC

--- "Candyce J. Hawk" wrote:
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:44:35 -0800
Subject: HT: [Fwd: Follow-up on USA Today ads]

The LP put out an update on the John Walters ad I thought you'd all like to see. This article talks about how John Walters didn't take the "bait" but I think the LP is being a bit hasty on that one. Of course, he won't come out with a bunch of stuff right away because the gov't would anticipate the attention this ad would get and wouldn't give free advertising to the anti-drug war movement. But I'll bet he attempts to file suit or counter the ad in some manner in a few weeks. Candy Hawk Libertarian Party Announcements wrote:
Fwd: Follow-up on USA Today ads by Ron Crickenberger
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionprohibitionistwodjunkies.showMessage?topicID=54.topic

[b]Does anyone have a gif url for the ad?[/b]

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Comment #11 posted by Jose Melendez on February 28, 2002 at 15:22:49 PT:

someone send this to Walters/Ashcroft/Hutchinson
from:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20020228/pl/mideast_bush_dc_7.html

``No United States president, including President Clinton, is to blame for violence in the Middle East. The only people to blame for violence are the terrorists who engage in it,'' Fleischer said. ``I regret any implication to the contrary.''

I hope that memo gets down the line to ONDCP. Then again I hope the FTC and/or the Justice Department press RICO charges against the DEA, ONDCP and the Partnership for a Drug Free America... Just my opinion.

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Comment #10 posted by idbsne1 on February 28, 2002 at 14:52:51 PT
p4me...
What a great idea!!! Serious... simple... didn't even think about it....much simpler than planting seeds...

I saw you mention this yesterday and was thinking of things to put on them....

I actually was worried whether it's technically legal....but

I was thinking of putting web page addresses like www.map.org....or....www.narconews.com, www.copvcia.com.....stuff that would tell them the truth... you know any curious person is going to see what the page is about, right? www.cannabis.com would be obvious and the prohibitionist would not go there.... but like www.map.org....www.norml.org....with the specific pages of research and truth on them?...

I REALLY think we need to spread the word....truth is THIS might make the mainstream media...yes?

Let's DO IT!!!!! P4me....GENIUS....

Could someone list some web pages besides those mentioned....where's the IOM report? I think we should write the web page to the FULL IOM report....

idbsne1

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Comment #9 posted by null on February 28, 2002 at 12:50:54 PT
clever idea p4me
i think your idea is clever p4me. currency is really a sharp way to put a message out there. dollars have to be the only flyers that people willing pass out and receive! and they don't ever get thrown away until they are declared "mutilated" which can take some time. I remember seeing George washington drawn to be saying "I grew pot" on dollar bills when I was younger and in the Wash D.C. area. A nice thing about your idea is that it is easy for individuals to do and cost free - cause hey... you're going to spend that money anyway.

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Comment #8 posted by p4me on February 28, 2002 at 12:06:53 PT
EJ-Truth on bills thread
Here is the newest thread at MJ.com on TRUTH ON BILLS.http://cheaptalk.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7467

I have an original idea that has not been presented before. Maybe that is because it is hard for reformers to act in a unified manner. It is a good idea for an individual as well. It might go unnoticed, but it would be doing something active. That would be cutting off all or part of your electricity at 4:20. Electricity cannot be stored and a cutoff by many individuals would be noticed. One thing about this idea is that a community could participate in it even though the country did not participate. For example, say the area around the West Hollywood Compassion Club said we have to do something and at 4:20 they all cut off there electricity.

On the truth on dollar bills method one person could make a lot of difference. A dedicated person could easily introduce a 100 truths a day into circulation and that truth would pass through many hands. We have to do everything we can and this idea is something. It is a something that is easy and cost no money.

VAAI



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Comment #7 posted by monvor on February 28, 2002 at 12:05:16 PT
doubleplus wrongthink
"We're taking away the argument that drug use doesn't hurt anybody else. That's been the argument for years and years.

Sure, who is making that argument? The idea is that you keep people trying to answer the wrong questions. That way you dont have to worry about what the answer is.

I am glad to see other groups are following the LP example.

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Comment #6 posted by p4me on February 28, 2002 at 11:50:44 PT
writing on currency
I read this idea at marijuana.com. There was an old thread that was resurrected you might want to read. I have not found the new thread and I will look for it later. The new thread has certain information about legalities that is not in this old thread.

It is like Martin Luther King said. When the laws are unjust, you have to break them. If the Mj laws are unjust, then I feel the public needs to right them using reasonable means.

You could write anything on any denomination and it would help. The schedule one lie is at the top of the lying pyramid. I thought that would be the shortest message possible and addressing the biggest problem. This is a good idea and I think it could easily catch on. One thing is for sure- Congress needs to learn that marijuana is medicine and the majority of citizens in this country already know it.

I will look for that latest thread on the dollar bill campaign.

Did anyone listen to Richard Cowan yesterday when he talked about the new coffeeshops opening in the UK? His main coverage was Liverpool. He mentioned that coffeeshops will soon open in Ryle, Milton Kayne, and bornmouth. He said the one in Bornmouth would open this week.

VAAI

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Comment #5 posted by Lehder on February 28, 2002 at 11:14:50 PT
"marijuana is medicine"
If it's legal to write "marijuana is medicine" on a dollar bill, then is it also legal to write "marijuana prevents cancer"? What about on a $10 bill? Is it legal to shout this at a passing car? Just curious.

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Comment #4 posted by E_Johnson on February 28, 2002 at 11:05:35 PT
Republicans play the victim game?????
Tom Riley, the communications director for the Office of National Drug Control Policy, criticized the parody ad as a partisan attack on the president.

Poor baby, not up to the rigors of the democratic system.

It's an adversarial system. Didn't your mommy tell you that when you were little, Tommy?



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Comment #3 posted by p4me on February 28, 2002 at 10:29:18 PT
That sounds goofy, Riley
"We're taking away the argument that drug use doesn't hurt anybody else. That's been the argument for years and years.

That sounds goofy like most prohibitionist logic. Who makes that argument. Certainly not the knowledgable reformer. The reformer says that the laws are many times more harmful than the substances. With marijuana the laws could easily be well over a hundred times more harmful to society than the substance. So I classify this statement as a lie, because it is not true. Let me befuddle the prohibitionist that might be reading this and repeat that. It is a lie because it was said knowing it is not true. That simple logic gets the prohibitionist everytime. They are not used to reality and sound thinking.

Let's talk about why these laws are so many more times harmful than marijuana use. First, marijuana must do something for the people that use it. If you deny them the use of MJ, you are denying them what it does for them. That could range from the MS or AIDS patient or the recreational user that wants to adjust his mood or gain a new perspective on things. The laws have also kept research from being done that could better isolate the 400 cannabinoids that are in marijuana and figure out which cannabinoids or strains of MJ are best for particular ailments. The fact that MJ could be grown outdoors for almost nothing would be a great benefit to an individual that may already need assistance and already burdened with DRUG bills and medical bills. Of course prohibitionist are not interested in reducing pain or cost for individuals.

You have an out of control police state that is in "seize and execute mode." The constitution made it the duty of government to defend us,and our property, and our freedoms. But not if MJ is involved. They want to take your property and reduce you to the bare freedoms available in prison. There would be good arguement that the government does not even protect people adequately in prison and the lawsuits over people that got raped and AIDS in prison is going to be a continuing cost to taxpayers even if prohibition ended today.

Then there is the cost in money and that may be 50 billion or more a year. There is the human cost of warping the War Against Drug Abuse by all but completely forgeting about the scourges of alcohol and tobacco. When MJ use becomes legal we will see how much of a change this has with alcohol problems and we will see that in the UK over the next few years.

The WOMJ is fronted by the Schedule One Lie. That lie in itself is proof to me that something is bad wrong with our government. And like Ed Rosenthall(sp) said that lie is supported by thousands of other lies. How can you believe in government when it lies and says "So what are you going to do about it." Maybe the manipulation of the media is the most worrysome part of the government lying. There is sin (lies)of commission and sin (lies) of ommission. I say the line I copied is a lie and what the press does not say is a lie of ommission even if it is governmentally induced.

Then there is the misdirection of resources. That may best be evidenced by the execution of Tom and Rollie at Rainbow farms. There were 120 FBI agents there to kill two people that the state authorities could have handled. Now if these people had been working on protecting us like the constitution says instead of killing us like the prohibitionist say they might have stopped the events of 9/11. Yes, if the government were doing its job instead of killing reformers the 50 billion dollar destruction of the WTC might have been prevented. This may come out at the wrongful death suit(s) regarding Rainbow Farms that happenned just 10 days before 9/11.

As Jay Leno often says when something is goofy like Riley said- "Shut up."

Has anyone written "marijuana is medicine on their currency yet?" I am positive that some bills so marked are out there. Could you please give it a try? It is called activism. Please, give it a try. We have to straighten this government out and someone has to do something.

VAAI

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Comment #2 posted by The GCW on February 28, 2002 at 10:27:11 PT
underage user?
They would impose upon you to go kill people for stupidity... your old enough to use cannabis.

Does William Randolf Hurst, still own the Chronicle? I get a chuckle when I realize, the connection. Still, which ones?

Wasn't he a cohort in the prohibition of cannabis to begin with?

If he owns these papers, today, he should put up a full page ad in his paper recanting his past historical mistake, like a gentleman. Do it for a WEEK.



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Comment #1 posted by letsgetfree on February 28, 2002 at 10:11:25 PT
ugh
"When you undermine that argument and you say that drug use actually does hurt other people, you're really pulling out the main plank of the legalization argument."

HELLO! If it were legal it WOULDN'T be hurting anybody because the control of the means of production wouldn't be in the hands of criminals. And I don't know about you but at my high school there isn't really any heroin or cocaine use. The pot we burn is mostly local canadian hydro. BTW i'm 20 so don't bitch that i'm an underage user, just a overage high school student:)

I need weed to help control my depression as I found the anti depressants the doctor sold to me didn't help at all. Now that i'm using weed i'm getting good marks again( top of my OAC {that's grade 13 for you yanks} english class) and feel much happier then i have in years.

BTW i love this board and think that FOM is doing a supa job. great place to find info on this ridiculous WoSD



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