m segesta,,a "box cutter",is also known as a "utility knife",,
you know,,with the retractable blade,,made by Stanley,,gray
in color,with a little button on top to retract the blade.

our government will push their momentary "mandate as far and
as fast as they can...they will make mistakes...we must
pounce on them with both feet at every opportunity...without
a vocal opposition they will begin the downward spiral to a
world that anyone who has read "1984" will recognize far too
well...

it's just a few executive orders away...

my daughter called from berkeley a little while ago...she is
suffering from a feeling of impending doom...i guess most 20
year olds react that way at one time or another to events
beyond their ability to control much less understand...

she feels her fellow students are apathetic about recent
events...we advised her to attend the rallies and meetings
on campus...to get a broader view of the events going on in
the world..

The general levity and banter aside, we're about to be lumped in with the likes of bin Laden. Personally, I'm very picky about whom I associate with. Some murderous m*********ker who looks like he is in dire need of a flea collar and sheepdip is now supposed to be our bunkie, according to the Feds. Who are (now) very clumsily trying to kill the proverbial two birds with one stone. By torpedoing both terrorism (can never happen, for the same reason they haven't been able to make a dent in the War on Drugs) and the reform movement (far more likely, because of our small numbers and almost non-existant voice).

I don't know about you, but I'm more than a little worried. Very shortly, the very same slick PR machine that gave us Barry-ola and 'vetted' scripts for TV shows will be doing this job with considerably more panache. And then it won't be just Muslims beaten almost to death on American streets by unthinking yahoos.

as far as real cat dropping go, i'm the property of 6
flatulent cats...my wife felt that the litter box was best
placed next to the desk i'm sitting at now...i was taught at
a very early age that most things taste like they smell...i
will NOT experiment..LOL

My, my -- what a nice vocabulary we have in our little potty mouth?

And, even Bill Safire (in NEXT week's NYT magazine, out early to cover the WTC thing, I think), wrote a bit on box cutters, putting him in the company our fine C-News writers Kapt. scmeff, FoM and Robbie:

"The suicidal hijackers were able to slip a new weapon through the metal detectors: a box cutter, defined in the on-top-of-the-news New Oxford American Dictionary (to be published next month) as ‘‘a thin, inexpensive razor-blade knife designed to open cardboard boxes.’’ Barbara Olson, a passenger aboard the airliner doomed to be crashed into the Pentagon, was able to telephone her husband, Solicitor General Ted Olson; she told him that the hijackers were armed with knives and what she called a cardboard cutter."

This observation by CongressmanSuet is of more concern to me than are the insights of RighteousA.

--sensors that look inside things like ocean containers (these are the trailers of semi trucks), buildings (like houses), car trunks (for bombs) will inadvertently find many other dangerous items.

--the reserve soldiers now in our streets will swell in number, and will soon become bored with what i understand is about their only duty, namely, to "be alert". they will find ways to relieve their ennui. people, these soldiers are not readers and thinkers like you and me; many of them are violent, bigoted imbeciles.

-- you will soon find that "i retain my fourth amendment right and all other rights under the Constitution...." no longer only angers cops; additionally, it will get you dragged out of your car.

-- i heard on the radio that three hours are needed to pass a car southward through the canadian border, more time for trucks.

as many have said, it will be on tv soon: drugs = terrorism.

a week ago, and long before, there was much talk about how the u.s. needed the drug war and needed a new war in colombia for the flagging economy and for renewed profits for the corporations who run our wars and select our leaders. now all these companies will be very busy indeed, and if one assumes, for the sake of argument and as a 'thought experiment', that the attacks were allowed, then there is no immediate contradiction. it's not necessary to hold that the attacks were specifically allowed; it is enough to assume, for the sake of argument and to play a devil's advocate, that a purposeful laxity in general security preceeded them with the expectation that some kind of an attack would certainly come. one must consider, along with these unpleasant thoughts, how the drug war was losing a lot of its popular support both domestically and throughout europe and the americas, how 'plan colombia' was coming under sharp and growing criticism and how tens of millions of dollars were handed to the taliban in the spring of this year as payment for their promise to eradicate drugs in afghanistan. you will recall too how roosevelt in fact allowed the attack on pearl harbor because of strong u.s. anti-war sentiment in 1941; that's right, americans at that time were largely opposed to entering the european conflict - until dec. 7, 1941 when the attack surprised many but not all.

but it really doesn't matter. the fact is that the governemnt was either unwilling or unable to protect us: we were indeed successfully attacked and it was perhaps the most spectacular successful attack in the history of warfare conducted not by cowards but by, as Harry Browne said, people who "gave their lives for whatever stupid beliefs they held." now our enemies have promised more attacks and we would be fools to doubt them. airplanes will not be of use again, so one must prepare for atomic and biological attacks which will occur on the west coast or at least far inland from the east coast so that prevailing winds spread death and contamination; conventional explosions should be expected on the east coast and everywhere else. you might say that i am an evil person for making such statements, but if our governemnt is not presently considering these and even more sinister possibilities then it is surely remis.

now i do not want to live with these dangers among us either. but it is a temporary job for intelligence services and a few tough cops to ferret them out; it's not an endless program for soldiers on the streets keeping "alert."

the trouble is that the governemnt will take these possibly contrived circumstances to take permanent powers that it will not yield when the danger has passed; and it may well arrange that the danger never quite passes so that there will not even be the call or expectation that new powers be yielded. the more enemies we make, the more terrorists we can expect to enter here.

i already heard bush's speech wherin he called upon us to make various sacrifices - sacrifice our time, our patience, whatever, a list of three quite nebulous sacrifices that must be made. well, those sacrifices will grow more specific and more demanding each day. his word were then followed by those of another rich white boy, i forget his name, telling us that this war would go on for "years." Kiss my ass! I don't want another war that goes on for "years." In my lifetime i've had enough of them. What i want to hear is how the government is taking steps to end the threat, the steps it will take to end the danger now and the policies it will adopt to make sure that we can get along with our neighbors. one must ask the questions why are we hated so and why were *we* attacked when other countries are not attacked, and what are we going to do to make the world a peaceful place as soon as possible so that i can once again take up my stargazing and forget about the 'hammer of vengeance'. our leaders, it seems, were educated solely from marvel comic books. I do not want to hear about another war that is going to go on for "years." promising me a baseball game on monday is not enough, D.C. shitheads, jsut as making the trains run on time was not enough, and if you cannot bring peace very soon, then americans will sooner or later get sick of your demands for sacrifice and you will be hung by your heels like il duce and corpseworms will guide the planet.

but i'm afraid the end to death and sacrifice will come later, not sooner, because you have created a race of ignoramuses.

xxxxxxxxx
peace marchers protest:
http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,552722,00.html

http://www.bettybowers.com/index.html

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/

At least, I HOPE they are parody sites as I even receive their weekly e-mail reports, which I find hilarious. I never detected any seriousness to them; am I missing something? You never know, especially when the Most Holy Rev. Falwell and RIghteous Rev. Robertson say the U.S. DESERVED this recent attack because we allow gays, the ACLU, you name it...........

Take care,

And bravo for the heroic police who have taken this dangerous drug pusher off our street. Who says bravo anymore if they are being serious?

A plant that is far safer than cigarettes and alcohol.
Cigarettes kill 400,000 people in the US each year.
Alcohol kills 100,000+ people in the US each year.
Marijuana has never killed anyone. Marijuana is not addictive. Marijuana does not cause cancer! Marijuana does not damage your brain! What's going on here!?

Righteous_Anger: i understand your pain, but while you might not believe me, if cannabis was legalised, like alcohol it would be more controlled and be kept out of childrens hands.. since its illegal its all too easy to get hold of. Legalisation means so much more protection for children.

I dont condone drugs to anyone, i dont wish to smoke spliff's in public.. i only use cannabis as stress relieve after a hard days work where i'm a systems analyst. I'm only telling you this because I'm a successful person who would rather smoke a single joint after work to relax then drink a bottle of wine which i'm forced to do currently since cannabis is illegal.

Yes I have issues with the way i relax, stress is all too much part of my life and with cannabis, i'd live healthier and be so much more part of the community I serve.

Who wants to deal with a drunkard.. and I'll tell you this.. you'd never know I was stoned if i bumped into you in the street apart from when I enter a shop and purchase munchie material.. which isnt junk food.. its apples and oranges and fruit in large quantities.

Your hate filled mind has blinded you to some very basic truths. I and my like minded, peaceful, responsible fellow citizens are the true Americans here. We are independant and strong. We exercise our rights to free speech and the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We do so without infringing upon the rights of others to pursue what makes them happy. We do so without taking the life of our fellow Americans. We do so because it is our God given right to do so as citizens under the Constitution that our great country is founded upon and that people like you have no respect for. We are the traditional Americans. We are the conservatives. We hear and heed the words of Jefferson and Washington. We do not tolerate hate mongers such as yourself who would cower under the guise of religious authority and strike out against that and those you fear like the snakes you are. You are no better than the terrorists that destroy the lives of so many beings. You dispel your nonsensical rhetoric with complete disregard for fact or reason. You say you do this for your children- then stop filling their hearts with hate and disrespect.

This man, this brave man, is exercising his rights. He gives comfort to those who need peace of mind and freedom from pain. He is a responsible adult who would never allow drugs to harm children or others. We need people like him and establishments like his. Friendly, clean, and reliable places where harmless "drugs" can be distributed to responsible users; note that he does note sell the poison that is alcohol- a poison that destroys the lives of thousands every year in this country. With such establishments in place, drug use and distribution can be controlled and monitored- the only way to counter the black market, the source of drug crime, is to provide a safe and legal market that sells marijuana grown here in our own country by Americans, for Americans.

By forcing drug users to the black market, you only encourage the black market. We know drug use exists so there is no use in hiding it any longer. Expose the black market to the light of day, to the light of justice, to the light of truth, to the light of responsibility, and it will wither and die.

You're mentality is so limited that you actually believe your own rhetoric. I beg you to open your tight little mind and let a crack of light shine through.

Mr. Davies and men like him are trying to keep marijuana away from children. It's the black market that preys on children and people's weaknesses, not legitimate, responsible marijuana users like Mr. Davies and myself.

It's not the drugs that underground thugs make money from, it's the laws against drugs that they make money from.

Here's pix of common boxcutter designs:http://www.pacifichandycutter.com/boxcutters.htm

thanks if you can help me out, but i have never heard of boxcutters before....................

Source: Associated Press
Published: Saturday, September 15, 2001
Copyright: 2001 Associated Press

A campaigner for the legalization of marijuana was arrested Saturday after opening Britain's first Dutch-style cafe openly selling the drug.

Colin Davies, a multiple sclerosis sufferer who uses marijuana to ease his symptoms, was involved in a scuffle with police soon after opening the doors of The Dutch Experience in a Manchester suburb 180 miles northwest of London.

As he was put into the back of a police van, one of his supporters shouted, "He's a healer, not a dealer."

A spokeswoman for Greater Manchester Police said Davies was arrested for possessing marijuana "with intent to supply" it to others.

Davies, founder of the Medical Marijuana Cooperative, which campaigns for the drug to be prescribed for illnesses like multiple sclerosis, made headlines last year when he was photographed handing Queen Elizabeth II a bouquet containing pot plants during a royal visit to the city.

After Davies' arrest Saturday, police searched the cafe and arrested several other people for possessing the drug, which is more commonly called cannabis in Britain.

Kate Bradley, a former policewoman who has smoked marijuana since 1991 to ease the pain of multiple sclerosis, said the police raid was an "undignified and horrendous experience."

Bradley, who uses a wheelchair, said for many people marijuana is the only drug that helps with the pain.

"It controls my pain and the spasms I get, and a lot of medical people believe that cannabis should be used to help people like me," she said.