Both sides of the killers are led by people void of the Holy Spirit of Truth, yet claim God.

Those who have been fighting the war supporting Gods cannabis, have fought a very peacful war, well pleasing to God, our Father. We know that the war has not just begun, but has been here for many years.

I was a fundamentalist type Christian. Very conservative and did my best to walk the walk as they would say. I watched the 700 Club regularly. One day I heard Pat Robertson say that to help fix the moral corruption of America they were going to get politically involved but didn't know which party would be the best but more then likely the Republican Party which is the one they are involved in.

It shocked me when I heard that because Christians are not to get too deeply involved in Politics.

From: http://www.defencejournal.com/sept98/osamabinladen.htm

Ironically, Russia's war on Afghanistan provided traffikers the oprtunity to set up routes and contacts in Russia. Also, the war provided the opportunity for Osama to become a hero of the people and entrench himelf firmly in the fledgling Taliban "government". Perhaps the DEA dudes in Colombia should consider those lessons before they get any deeper into Colombia!

Check the links below for details. Just be sure to equip some WOD filters on your optic signal processors for the first one. :)

I have read quietly for the past couple of days, and I think most posters have expressed the range of my thoughts more than adequately, so I won't rehash anything.

To me, I see little difference between Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Osama bin Laden, the Jewish Defense League and Louis Farrakhan. They all represent extremist philosophies that are rife with bigotry and pervert the religions they claim to represent. They contribute to the jingoist nonsense and intolerance that will be the undoing of mankind unless those of us who pray for peace can make our wishes known. It is time to join hands, not to be picking up weapons.

The greatest women and men are not only intelligent, but wise. Albert Einstein said two things I would like to repeat. The first is:

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science."

The second I need to paraphrase. He was once asked what the weapons of World War III would be, and replied that he was not sure about that, but that the weapons of the next war after that would be sticks and rocks.

Source: Washington Post
Author: John F. Harris, Washington Post Staff Writer
Published: Friday, September 14, 2001; Page C03
Copyright: 2001 The Washington Post Company

Television evangelists Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, two of the most prominent voices of the religious right, said liberal civil liberties groups, feminists, homosexuals and abortion rights supporters bear partial responsibility for Tuesday's terrorist attacks because their actions have turned God's anger against America.

"God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve," said Falwell, appearing yesterday on the Christian Broadcasting Network's "700 Club," hosted by Robertson.

"Jerry, that's my feeling," Robertson responded. "I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to the major population."

Falwell said the American Civil Liberties Union has "got to take a lot of blame for this," again winning Robertson's agreement: "Well, yes."

Then Falwell broadened his blast to include the federal courts and others who he said were "throwing God out of the public square." He added: "The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.' "

People for the American Way transcribed the broadcast and denounced the comments as running directly counter to President Bush's call for national unity. Ralph G. Neas, the liberal group's president, called the remarks "absolutely inappropriate and irresponsible."

Robertson and others on the religious right gave critical backing to Bush last year when he was battling for the GOP presidential nomination. A White House official called the remarks "inappropriate" and added, "The president does not share those views."

Falwell was unrepentant, saying in an interview that he was "making a theological statement, not a legal statement."

"I put all the blame legally and morally on the actions of the terrorist," he said. But he said America's "secular and anti-Christian environment left us open to our Lord's [decision] not to protect. When a nation deserts God and expels God from the culture . . . the result is not good."

The country is a dry mountainous place with few roads and even more horse and camel trails. It's almost impossible to fight a conventional war there because of the terrain, it's not that the russian tanks and helicopters aren't good equiptment but that they are almost useless in the steep moutain terrain.

If we go there alot of people are gonna die, not all of them guerilla fighters either.

We'll find out really fast that the M-16 is an inadequate weapon there as you can easily get a 800 yard shot off and the 16 isn't good for more than 600,...the freedom fighters can sit behind rocks with their AK's and pop us in the ass all day long!

..So ,,when you wrote;

>"The thought process you are initiating could very well be interpreted as just that---bad for the country as a whole, in the face of a national catastrophe. Careful before you are labeled a SUBVERSIVE GROUP."<

,,,are you suggesting that perhaps I get a bit too extreme,or subversive
in my comments,,,and hinting,, that some things I write are initiating
certain,"thought process" concepts?....I know I say too much,but perhaps
you could elaborate on your comment ...

I assume you are in the Great Northwest.

Oh but let's not get into the subject of the Kennedy family fortune, alcohol trafficking, and the IRA...

Hmm hmm hmm...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash

Nope,,,to say it aint pretty,,is like saying prison aint fun...

Get ready for some really bizzarre times.....I keep thinking of
the Book of Revelations,and other biblical prophesies,,,,this
is the beginning of the big one.

But, no they had to eradicate a harmless substance
which has never torn people's limbs from their bodies.
Cannabis has never taken down 110 story buildings or
stopped our financial markets, yet the politicos in office
have always seen it as a greater threat than terrorism.
How many more years will we Americans become
victims of terrorism because some assholes in
Congress want to persecute us. How many more
BILLIONS of dollars will be wasted trying to stamp out
Cannabis and other drugs that will never match the
horrors of September 11, 2001. At least $20 billion a
year is spent eradicating cannabis and prosecuting
those who use and possess it, it's no wonder our
economy is suffering and social security is being bilked
and our innocent New Yorkers are being killed.

This is getting more foolhardy than ridiculous. Why don't we mail the 40 billion dollars to Osama? He might reform his incorrigible ways and do the world some good.

It is not so funny when it is the taxpayers who were footing this terrorist act in NYC. It was not just the drugs. We, the people, the taxpayers who gave money to Tablians because they said they banned the poppy flowers.

Of all the ironic thing, we gave them the money and they made money off the drugs as well sending the terrorists to America where they learned to fly.

Someone once said that from time to time, blood shed in order to keep the concept of freedom alive and well. Now is the time to tell our government that we are our own worst enemy. We, the people have caused this chaos. There will be no justice just by naming few strange names unless we start naming "american"'s names who were footing this damage.

I am willing to bet that these so called 29 nations that do drug trades are also getting their support from our own government.

When is it the time to kill this sacred Cow?

The CIA did it and so does everyone else. There realy is a common denominator here, with the giant profits created in a prohibionist environment. The only way to change that is to legalize.

We see it as obvious. We have been at war. War is not new to us. The Government was blind, is blind and will remain blind. I see the potential for the blind to keep on their blind direction.

Didn't we just see that the Taliban is also playing the other side of the street? Comment #116 posted by New Mexican on September 12, 2001 at 12:42:09 PT
Read this and comment!

Anybody have any doubt that we financed this assault on America: read this and weep: Bush gives Taliban $132 million to date this year!
http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=63087&group=webcast

FoM, please help this click if it doesn't take.

PS: I fixed it xxdr_zombiexx. It wasn't a problem at all.

There is absolutely NO doubt this would "take a bite out of crime". Its not the heroin or the hashish terrorists or American Gangtsters care about. It's the cold, hard dollar.
Prohibition SUBSIDIZES the Black Market profits drug trafficking creats. The CIA knew this in the 1980's when they used cocaine profits to finance their wars in central america.

LEGALIZATION , first and foremost, would mean the end of trucked in Mexican schwag. In the concept of "broken windows" policing, this could have a sort of "positive" domino effect. The absence of squandering manpower seeking cannabis would allow better focus on cocaine, heroin...and terror. secondly, with fewer truckloads of cannabis coming from mexico, there will be fewer "illicit" trucks to catch, again imporving use of manpower.

**So far, that reconsideration hasn't happened. The G8 has never discussed drug prohibition in that light. The G8 went so far as to explicitly refuse to talk about drug legalization. **

The War on druuugs finances them, too.

My real fear is that terrorism is so enigmatic that a "war" against it will be akin to shooting at smoke. All the while, the government will keep people whipped into a frenzy of fear and patriotism, while pursuing their orginial goals of liquidating the Bill of Rights and the constitution. Can you see Bush becoming president indefinately becuase they pull a "paperwork coup"? What a nauseating thought. People need to know what;s in the upcoming , hastily approved spending packages because riders could contain all sorts of unconstitutional BS republicans have desired for years. Its certain they will seek caps on free speech and personal privacy.

They should NOT get them.

Prohibition IS terrorism