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  Martyers or Menaces?
Posted by FoM on September 05, 2001 at 14:47:51 PT
By Jim Dalgleish, H-P City Editor 
Source: Herald-Palladium 

cannabisnews.com To many, Tom Crosslin and Rollie Rohm paid an ultimate and just price for drawing guns on law enforcement agents. But to those fighting against America's drug laws, the two may have died as martyrs.

"This is kind of like the shot heard around the world," said Gary Storck, a medical marijuana user in Madison, Wis. In a phone interview, the activist said he hopes the news will "light a fire under the people" to legalize marijuana in Michigan "so things like this don't happen again."

The Herald-Palladium already has received letters to the editor from as far away as Florida and California challenging America's drug laws and questioning authorities about the deaths. Storck was among the letter writers.

Crosslin, owner of Rainbow Farm near Vandalia, was shot dead Monday in a standoff with authorities. Rohm, Crosslin's roommate, was shot dead Tuesday morning. The second death ended a four-day standoff.

Police had gone to the complex after Crosslin failed to appear for a court hearing Friday on charges stemming from a May drug raid.

Though authorities were not releasing many details about the shootings, police said the actions of Crosslin and Rohm left them little choice.

Michigan State Police Lt. Mike Risko said Rohm was repeatedly ordered to put down his gun.

"In each occasion both subjects pointed firearms at officers, and I don't know what else you would have officers do," Risko said.

Rainbow Farm for a long time has hosted music festivals called Hemp Fest and RoachRoast, and its Web site states the complex "supports the medical, spiritual and responsible recreational use of marijuana for a more sane and compassionate America."

Storck, 46, said he has long known about Rainbow Farm and felt disappointed having never seen it. Friends have told him stories about how much they enjoyed the activities there.

Thanks to the Internet, Storck said, news of the deaths has traveled quickly in the "cannabis community."

"There is a very somber mood out there. ... These were good people," Storck said.

Brothers Darren and Lloyd Daniel, who live less than a mile south of the Rainbow Farm complex, wore their "Hemp Aid 2000" T-shirts as they stood outside their home Tuesday afternoon. The shirts carried a message endorsing the "Personal Responsibility Amendment," a failed effort last year to decriminalize marijuana through Michigan's Constitution.

A drawing on the shirt showed a house with a welcome mat reading "marijuana welcome."

The California natives, who said they had never been at Rainbow Farm, said the prosecution of Crosslin and Rohm typifies Cass County's intolerance.

"I've got friends here getting busted with marijuana seeds and stems," Lloyd said.

The two placed direct blame for the shootings on Cass County Prosecutor Scott Teter. They put up a sign along their White Temple Road home that read: "How does it feel to have innocent blood on your hands Teeter".

Friends and family of Crosslin and Rohm continued to gather Tuesday afternoon in a vacant lot at Michigan 60 and White Temple Road, about a mile north of the complex. The mood was a mix of anger with authorities, sadness over the deaths and weariness with the media frenzy.

Several escaped the sun under a canopy while handmade signs along M-60 lambasted Teter and police.

"That was private property. Never once did a neighbor complain," said Dayved Watts of Elkhart. Watts said he built many of the buildings for Crosslin.

Watts said the people who attended Rainbow Farm events merely believed in "their constitutional right to pursue happiness ... their right to gather in a peaceful manner."

Teter's office was referring all comment on the case to the FBI. FBI spokeswoman Dawn Crenney could not be reached for comment.

Source: Herald-Palladium, The (MI)
Author: Jim Dalgleish, H-P City Editor
Published: Wednesday, September 05, 2001
Copyright: 2001 The Herald-Palladium
Contact: letters@heraldpalladium.com
Website: http://www.heraldpalladium.com/

Related Articles & Web Sites:

Is My Medicine Legal Yet?: http://www.immly.org/

Drug Policy Forum of Wisconsin: http://www.drugsense.org/dpfwi/

Personal Responsibility Amendment Initiative: http://www.prayes.com/

The Rainbow Farm Campground: http://www.rainbowfarmcampground.com/

Police Criticized for Standoff's End: http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread10830.shtml

Crosslins Passions Led To Downfall: http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread10828.shtml

CannabisNews Articles - Tom Crosslin: http://cannabisnews.com/thcgi/search.pl?K=Crosslin

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Comment #27 posted by FoM on September 05, 2001 at 23:20:46 PT
My Feelings
I just must say that all the comments are very good. So much thought has gone into them. We know that the war against marijuana is wrong. We lost Peter McWilliams last year, now just a little over a year later, we've lost two more kindred spirits and at the hands of our government. I am not a person that is motivated by hate but I want answers. I want to know why this happened. What was the need of this force? Did the police provoke them to act foolishly so they would have a good excuse to blow them away? I want to know. I think we all want to know these things and more. We have a right to know. When I read they were patroling for marijana activists that made me very angry. Like we're predators or worse. That's all. I've said enough. I don't like to put my foot in my mouth and this is the time I could do it very easily. Thanks everyone.

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Comment #26 posted by E. Johnson on September 05, 2001 at 22:51:00 PT
They laughed -- now we have to make them cry
There has been enough funny lighthearted stuff about pot in the media.

I at first thought Saving Grace was a great movie but now I think it helped American boomers who saw it believe that nothing really bad happened to people who got caught growing marijuana.

In this movie, a politically correct affluent white British woman starts growing pot as a way to save her lovely English estate from the debts left by her horrible scoundrel of a husband. She grows magnificent bud with the help of some friends, then she meets the ever-enchanting Tcheky Karyo who is a teddy bear with a switchblade of a drug dealer who promises to take her goods to market.

In the end they get busted and the pot goes up in flames and she and Tcheky get married and she writes a bestselling book about having grown the pot ---- then hints that maybe the whole movie was just that fictional book after all.

There has to be a movie on this subject that isn't a joke or an extended pun or a cuddly wuddly movie designed to make people think that the marijuana laws aren't really bothering anyone so why should they be changed...



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Comment #25 posted by Robbie on September 05, 2001 at 22:41:25 PT
Reefer Madness??

On off-Broadway? With Paula Abdul?!?! Wow. That's wild.

I note your thoughts on Jay Leno, E. Johnson. Last week, he started a joke talking about the man in Washington who was naked and led police to his home grow-op. The punchline (paraphrasing), "All I know is this, that was some REALLY good pot!" And it got applause! I was amazed. A national figure with a pro-pot joke?! Keep 'em comin' Jay!

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Comment #24 posted by E. Johnson on September 05, 2001 at 22:32:19 PT
Reefer Madness on The View
This morning on The View they had Paula Abdul who is choreographing Reefer Madness for its off-Broadway run.

It's a cultural war, you have to fight it on the cultural front.



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Comment #23 posted by Lehder on September 05, 2001 at 22:20:56 PT
tell us the truth
They need to be led through that relationship in a dramatic and compelling fashion. In a manner where they can understand the motivation of everyone involved. --E.J.

Your entire comment is very important and touches at the heart of our efforts. Television and print have been criminally fettered, but why has the truth about the personal and social disaster of the drug war not been broadcast from Hollywood? The writers, moguls and actors know from close experience and know better than most the connections among marijuana, drug war, personal annihilation and social destruction. But the movie has yet to play, and that is what the public must see.

"Traffic", really, portrayed the war only gingerly, offering hints of truth, yet it was hungrily received by an audience that remains unsatisfied and confused, skeptical of the drug war and searching for answers. Especially today as we fail to find reasons or sense.

We know that Hollywood, too, has been hobbled and intimidated the same as all the aspects of our lives. But the response to "Traffic" showed that the time has come. The truths to be revealed and the horrors that have been hidden are too overgrown to conceal.

There are twenty or more million stories to be told, and this cruel orphaning of a twelve-year-old boy, five years growing up in Rainbow Farm, is one that must be told. Because it defies our humanity. No threat or manner of repression or dumb appeal to social cause or phony tale of ruin - nothing can justify this, nothing can excuse it, and the drug warriors now have nothing more they can say. Words only cheat us, but these killings must stop.

It's not about Cheech and Chong or drugstore cowboys any more, not even about drugs at all. It's about the awful bullies with lead for brains and guns for debates, the horror that we have become and the saner people whom we must learn to be.

The screen is still dark but the music has begun and this war is over. Yet nothing can replace the father of young Robert Rohm, and all our hearts today are his.


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Comment #22 posted by E. Johnson on September 05, 2001 at 22:07:36 PT
Cherry 2000
That's where my name comes from. Melanie Griffith's character in Cherry 2000.

She wore a sweatshirt with DIGNITY in huge letters across the chest.



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Comment #21 posted by E. Johnson on September 05, 2001 at 22:04:34 PT
Marijuana on Jay Leno
Lately on Jay Leno there's been a lot of references to people smoking pot during the show.

Arsenio Hall especially.

This is so strange, it's weird to hear cute marijuana banter tee hee wink wink nudge on network TV and then compare that with this.

Like it can't happen to them. They can be lighthearted about it.

Tonight Jennifer Aniston is on the show...



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Comment #20 posted by Poisoned1500Days on September 05, 2001 at 22:04:09 PT
and
and Cultural Effect is one of
the most important things anybody
can achieve ( assuming its positive ).


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Comment #19 posted by Poisoned1500Days on September 05, 2001 at 22:00:38 PT
E, Johnson is right about the movie
E. Johnson is right about the movie.
To get the attention of the average
American you have to use television.
The really important corollary to
that is that the more television you
control the more cultural effect you
can have.


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Comment #18 posted by Patrick on September 05, 2001 at 21:22:38 PT
curious thought mr.greenjenes
This scenario you have imagined and the questions you have raised. I wanna know the answers to those questions of yours? Plus, I am formulating a few questions of my own. Questions involving connections between certain states and servants of the public trust who happened to be in Michigan on Labor Day. Shark attacks indeed.

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Comment #17 posted by Dank Hank on September 05, 2001 at 20:52:26 PT:

Right On, Mr Greengenes
Good point, probably the best point WE can make.

See http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread10830.shtml#2


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Comment #16 posted by puff_tuff on September 05, 2001 at 20:40:44 PT:

Support is growing
I posted the above article at the Cannabis Culture Forums.

The following is from Marc Emery

I am encouraging Americans and Canadians from Ontario to go to the property in Vandalia and camp there in protest of the murder of these two Cannabis Martyrs.

We are putting up money to cover some on-site costs and are currently talking with US activists about a camp out protest at the Rainbow Farm property.

Marc

Marc Emery - Moderator


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Comment #15 posted by Rock-N-Roller on September 05, 2001 at 20:04:51 PT
Get up, Stand up, Stand up for your right.
In order to bring more media attention to this tragedy we need to make a lot of noise. We need the likes of Gary Johnson, Jessie Ventura, and Normal to attend the funerals and deliver the eulogies. We need to have thousands of people, attend the services, just like the police and firemen do. If this could happen the media cannot completley ignore this. If we get more media attention it can possibly help to educate the ones who need it. E-Mail Gary Johnson's office, and Normal, lets try to get them there. This will show to the nation and the families of those who died, that the efforts of these modern day patriots will not be in vain. To sit and do nothing is what the opposition would like to see. I will make several posts of this comment. Do not be angry or surprised if you see this again. I will post it in other places to get more attention. Get up, Stand up, Stand up for your right.

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Comment #14 posted by Cannabis Dave on September 05, 2001 at 19:46:14 PT
What can we all do?
Don't let their deaths be in vain - get involved and use some of your anger for constructive purposes. What can we all do? They said it better than I could on the Rainbow Farm website:

http://www.rainbowfarmcampground.com/invlvd.htm

We can live better lives by following those suggestions. They died for the cause of cannabis/hemp and saving the environment, so lets all become better people by living our lives in a more environmentally friendly way by following some of the simple suggestions listed there.


I'm sitting here listening to them argue about "stem cells" again on the news. Considering what they do to human beings and animals, it seems so silly to argue about using stem cells for many very valuable reasons. Our government is so compassionate about life though - they don't like abortions or using stem cells, but if a person doesn't agree with them and acts mentally ill (it was obviously suicidal for them to challenge the "authorities" with guns) they send in the snipers!


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Comment #13 posted by cannabis dave on September 05, 2001 at 19:24:35 PT
I "purpose" of the people executed.
If you read the "purpose" on the Rainbow Farm website, it explains the beliefs of the people executed.

http://www.rainbowfarmcampground.com/index2.html

It's so sad that the FBI felt it neccessary to execute kind, caring, peaceful people like that after it was stated in the media that they really wanted a "peaceful" resolution (sure they did, that's why they sent in snipers). All they had to do was wait, and sending in snipers was obviously a death sentence in that situation. They did that in front of us all, and we must not let them get away with it. They made a BIG mistake, because this tragedy will greatly help the cause of hemp/cannabis and personal freedom in this country. I believe those people died knowing that, because they were obviously not fools...

God bless them both!!



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Comment #12 posted by E. Johnson on September 05, 2001 at 18:59:28 PT
Make it into a movie to get to Americans
Look we have this explosion of independent cable productions, there are film makers all over the place looking for a story like this.

Someone should start working on a script right now.

This story is really over the heads of most Americans who do not understand the connection between marijuana and total descturction of a person's life.

They need to be led through that relationship in a dramatic and compelling fashion. In a manner where they can understand the motivation of everyone involved.

We have friends in the entertainment industry do we not?



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Comment #11 posted by lookinside on September 05, 2001 at 18:53:14 PT:

anger...
boils...we knew the government would execute them...we sat
helplessly, knowing the outcome...

our government is murdering it's citizens...

a half dozen supporters, a mile away...we are
ineffective...the government wins...another...

a general strike is in order...authority must be brought down...

we can no longer survive as a nation because we have no
morals...

hate and anger are painful...but no other feelings are
possible, until those FBI goons are dispatched as tim
mcveigh was...


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Comment #10 posted by Robbie on September 05, 2001 at 18:29:20 PT
The question is...

Will ANYONE seriously investigate? Will there be an actual federal, state, or local inquiry? Will reporters GET OFF THEIR ARSES and do a little work?

And I keep reading that they told both of them to put doen the gun many times. How long is many times? 5 seconds? 10 seconds? In ALL that time, these jackbooted sharpshooters couldn't aim for the FREAKIN' SHOULDER?!?!?

Let's go Risko! Why was there terminal force used? I want an answer!

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Comment #9 posted by mr.greengenes on September 05, 2001 at 18:19:09 PT
Curious thought

I had a thought which I haven't seen brought up anywhere yet. They say that both men raised their rifles at the agents, thereby forcing the agents to fire to protect themselves. Now knowing how safety concious the police are, one would have to assume that they were in full battle gear, i.e. kevlar vests, kevlar lined helmets, bullet proof safety goggles, ect. Also, they were more than likely hiding behind some object for extra protection, a vehicle, or tree. From the reports I have heard, the agents were 100 yards away from Tom Crosslin. Imagine this scenario.

How were the agents in danger? Tom had a mini-14 with no scope. He barely has time to get it to his shoulder, let alone take aim at a human sized target hiding behind, let's say a tree, the length of a football field away, before he gets shot. I guarentee the agent had him in his sights at all times. I have an SKS and if I shot into an average sized tree point blank , the bullet wouldn't even pass half way through the tree. Why couldn't the agent have just stepped back behind the tree? Why didn't the agents use non-lethal weapons like rubber bullets, bean bag guns, tranquilizer darts or some other means to subdue him? I don't buy the concept that the agents lives were in danger at any time. These chickensh*ts don't have the balls to put themselves in harms way.

I plan on attending the funeral. I hope many others will follow suit.

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Comment #8 posted by Andy on September 05, 2001 at 18:08:38 PT
Put down your guns
I just like the way the FBI and Cops keep saying that they were told to put down thier guns. I'm sure the FBI and cops never put down thiers. So should it be ok to shoot a cop because he pulled a gun on you and you told them to put their guns down and leave. What do you expect a man being held captive by a bunch of men with guns suppose to do.

My thoughts and sympathy to Tom Croslin and Rolland Rohm.

This is America

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Comment #7 posted by mayan on September 05, 2001 at 18:03:32 PT
Liberty or Death
If the neighbors never complained then these people should have been left alone on their private property. Oh, never mind...I was thinking that this was a free country.

Their lives have been taken.

Liberty is dead.

The pursuit of happiness is just a memory.



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Comment #6 posted by FoM on September 05, 2001 at 16:56:47 PT
Thanks Again Gary
Got you blushing. That made me smile. It's hard to smile with this all happening but you were successful anyway. I've added more to my memorial page. Here's the link if you or anyone is interested. You're welcome for C News too! I don't know how it would be without everyone commenting and sharing their feelings like is happening.

Tom Crosslin & Rolland Rohm Memorial: http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/rb.htm

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Comment #5 posted by puff_tuff on September 05, 2001 at 16:40:32 PT:

Federal Bureau of Intimidation
A fitting quote from Howard Zinn

"The most important thing you can do is simply to continue exposing them. Because why does the FBI do all this? To scare the hell out of people. Were they doing this because of a Soviet invasion threat or because they thought the Socialist Workers Party was about to take over the country? Are they going after whoever their current target is because the country is in imminent danger, internal or external? No. They are doing it because they don't like these organizations. They don't like the civil rights organizations, they don't like the women's organizations, they don't like the anti-war organizations, they don't like the Central American organizations. They don't like social movements. They work for the establishment and the corporations and the politicos to keep things as they are. And they want to frighten and chill the people who are trying to change things. So the best defense against them and resistance against them is simply to keep on fighting back, to keep on exposing them. That's all I have to say."

Howard Zinn


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Comment #4 posted by observer on September 05, 2001 at 16:37:22 PT
re: Thank You Gary!
Good job Gary!! It just hurts so much that it has come to this. Those men were murdered for their beliefs, because they spoke out.

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Comment #3 posted by Gary Storck on September 05, 2001 at 16:10:01 PT
Thank You FOM!
*blush* Thans FOM, and thanks so much for working so hard to build a place to read the news and discuss it. I'm just glad the reporter called me and let me share my feelings on this tragedy.

I guess I'll never get to the Rainbow Farm now, but I know that two good men lost were killed because of a stupid law that should never have been passed. I hope the good people of Michigan can get PRAyes on the ballot, and vote it into law.

And I hope a thousand new Rainbow campgrounds bloom in every state.

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Comment #2 posted by FoM on September 05, 2001 at 15:56:37 PT
Thank You Gary!
Gary,

You know you have always been an inspiration to me and you did it once again and I wanted to say thank you so much.

Bless Your Heart.

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Comment #1 posted by goneposthole on September 05, 2001 at 15:32:48 PT
martyrs and menaces
Martyr: Tom Croslin
Martyr: Rolland Rohm

Menace: government

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