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Posted by FoM on August 23, 2001 at 09:11:20 PT
By Filip Palda, National Post 
Source: National Post  

cannabis In a recent series of articles in the National Post, Diane Francis explained that marijuana is a benign drug that should be legalized for the pleasure of its users and the multi-billion-dollar tax revenue it could bring government.

She may have to wait a while before government gives dope smokers its blessing to surround themselves with what Arthur Conan Doyle described as the "sweet balsamic odour of oriental tobacco." Politicians will board almost any profitable enterprise, cutlass in hand, to hack their way to private treasure chests. What stops the Captain Hooks of government from plundering the marijuana trade?

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Comment #22 posted by Nord on August 24, 2001 at 16:06:54 PT:

Excuse me while I laugh...
... heartily upon the nonsense of this article. Granted, some people who smoke pot are a bit dumbed down and perhaps even lethargic; but I believe that it has to do with the individual and how they wield the effects of pot.

From my personal research, smoking marijuana actually lets ideas flow freely. It's not necessarily a heightened perspective, since that's all relative - but you definately percieve things in a different way. Ideas (radical ones included) flow freely... from the inside. The reason why trying to produce them verbally may come off as stupor, is because they're generally so convoluted and involved, that constructing them can sometimes be difficult and frustrating. That's what writing is good for.

Anyway, I detest the opinion that pot smokers are 'dumbed down'. That's the most naive and generalized statement you could make on the subject and just reeks of uninspired and incompetant 'research'.

Or something.

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Comment #21 posted by Doug on August 24, 2001 at 09:39:52 PT
A Grain of Truth
Perhaps this is why the United States, which has a dynamic free market economy, also has a government increasingly opposed to marijuana.

If I were an English teacher grading this paper, I'd give it a D at best. He states that marijuana stupifies, but nowhere does he offer any evidence to prove his point. He doesn't know what he's taking about, that's obvious; but since he is a professor of economics, this is not unexpected.

But there is one point that does contain a germ of truth. Since marijuana is considered to be a stupifying drug, and one that causes introspection and an amotivational syndrome, it is feared by the United States, which is one of the least introspective country in the world. We much prefer our stimulants, but I think the country would be much bette off with a big dose of marijuana for all our leaders, it would help them realize what they've been doing. For that reason thay don't want to get near the stuff.

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Comment #20 posted by DPM on August 24, 2001 at 06:11:47 PT:

whoes brain is scrambled?
Scrambled brain? The examples are numerous of people using marijuana to focus on the task at hand. Including professional atheletes. Pilip just proves that his grasp on reality is scrambled if he thinks we have a dynamic free economic market. If we had this dynamic free economic market marijuana would not be illegal.

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Comment #19 posted by tdm on August 24, 2001 at 05:34:35 PT:

more hypocrisy
This guy's a real gem. Noone I know can actually talk out of both sides of their mouth at once, but Mr. Palda gives me hope that I might someday be able to witness such a feat. He's really giving it the old college try.

From a paper refuting a study which attempts to justify tobacco regulation:

"The Impact Study's argumentation to justify more tobacco
regulation bypasses the economic methodology. It does not demonstrate the existence of external costs (i.e., of effects on third parties) nor does it show that there are transfers between smokers and non-smokers that would need to be corrected. The study omits theoretical and empirical research published on smoking in the economic literature. Its general assumption of addiction can hardly stand up to any thorough analysis, and amounts to an argument for government paternalism."

Give this a try. Interesting reading.
Filip">http://www.google.com/search?q=Filip+Palda+tobacco&sourceid=opera&num=0">Filip Palda tobacco: Google Search


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Comment #18 posted by tdm on August 24, 2001 at 05:16:50 PT:

anti hypocrisy
Thought you would all enjoy a little hypocrisy in your reading today. I know I can just never get enough.

I was so puzzled by Mr. Palda's seemingly benign opinion of alcohol and tobacco, that I did a little research. The text below is from a public policy paper he wrote last year. Can *you* find the hypocrisy? This is easier than "Where's Waldo?"

Filip Palda, The History of Tobacco Regulation: Forward to the Past, Public Policy Sources No. 40, July 26, 2000, Fraser Institute

"The message of this paper is that before asking government to regulate tobacco we must ask whether friends, family, and colleagues are not already imposing their own informal restrictions on smokers. We must also consider whether, if we grant government the power to regulate tobacco, we will not also write our leaders a carte blanche to tax. The best regulation becomes bad when used for ends it was not intended and when taken too far."

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Comment #17 posted by legalizeit on August 23, 2001 at 21:32:15 PT
Scary
When I started reading this article, I did a double take. At first I thought it was one of those Reefer Madness articles from the 30s. It is really scary that someone still thinks like this, and that he gets a big soapbox to spew his ideas from. (Oh well, Washington Post, what do you expect...)

> Marijuana is not legal because for most users it is a drug with one function: Marijuana stupefies its user so that the man who once shone in conversation becomes under its influence a dullard who unsettles family and friends with inanities and disconnected thoughts

This sounds more like a description of a Drug Warrior on alcohol. I don't know how many drunk people I've seen spewing inanities and being jerks. Pot, on the other hand, encourages introspection and some of the most interesting conversations I've heard have taken place where pot was present.

Alcohol really is a drug with only one function. Pot has many functions and increasing evidence shows us that pot prohibition really is the silliest, most inane law ever conceived.

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Comment #16 posted by Kevin Hebert on August 23, 2001 at 17:49:03 PT:

My response to the National Post
Dear Editors:

I was incredulous to read Filip Palda's "Toke Up, Dumb Down" in the National Post. Mr. Palda claims smoking cannabis makes you stupid. I disagree.

In fact, I disagree with just about everything Mr. Palda wrote in his editorial, mainly because nothing he said about cannabis is true.

Smoking cannabis has no effect on your mental ability. It has been used for 5000 years as medicine and for recreation.

What was most appalling about Mr. Palda's editorial was his praise for tobacco and alcohol in lieu of marijuana. I will remind Mr. Palda, and the Post's readers, that tobacco is addictive and deadly. Alcohol can kill you in one sitting. As for cannabis, it is non-addictive and has no lethal
dose. No one has ever died smoking marijuana. Tobacco and alcohol have killed millions.

Repealing cannabis prohibition is long overdue. The laws were enacted by racist men with small minds and selfish goals.

No one should go to prison for using a plant to feel better. It is absurd. We must get rid of these archaic laws, and, if necessary, the foolish politicians who enact them.

Sincerely,
Kevin M. Hebert


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Comment #15 posted by Pontifex on August 23, 2001 at 16:20:36 PT:

Who wants to be stoned at work?
Pretty much everyone who works in the offices of l'École nationale d'administration publique, I would imagine.

Actually, Offspring, I have a highly technical job coordinating the compilation of commercial software from C++ code, and let me tell you, occasionally it is very useful to be stoned at work. Some days it's hard to get excited about a ten-hour day, so I smoke an early morning bowl in the style of the Rastafarians. It instantly wakes me up and gets the serotonin flowing, much like coffee works for some people (it doesn't for me). And while it undoubtedly promotes creative thinking, I do not have difficulty "tackling a challenging problem which [is] broken down into manageable steps". In fact, I tend to make mistakes when I'm bleary-eyed and sleepy, not when I'm stoned awake and focused. Even Benadryl sabotages my concentration, but not cannabis.

Like many tech firms, my company has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy on this sort of thing. And we have flourished in a shrinking industry. If we adopted mandatory drug tests, this company and the livelihood of all of its employees -- not to mention customers -- would be devastated overnight.

So please bear in mind: even though being stoned at work doesn't work for you, others may have a different experience. One size does not fit all.

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Comment #14 posted by The Offspring on August 23, 2001 at 15:28:21 PT
Not all Cannabis smokers are lazy
When I go to work I don't get stoned. Smoking Cannabis is for when someone wants to relax. Who wants to go to work stoned or drunk. I like sitting back at home and relaxing when I smoke the Herb.

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Comment #13 posted by Pontifex on August 23, 2001 at 13:43:48 PT:

Hatchet job
Wow, it didn't take long for the regulars here to vivisect this appalling propaganda piece.

Robbie provided a concise, point-by-point refutation. Kaptinemo fired up his electric turkey knife and laid open M. Palda's disingenuous definition of "creativity". Dr. Russo lent his professional imprimatur. And observer, as always, provides the muscle behind the rhetoric with his excellent collection of links.

Is there a giblet left for me? How about the economic angle?

Politicians will board almost any profitable enterprise, cutlass in hand, to hack their way to private treasure chests. What stops the Captain Hooks of government from plundering the marijuana trade?

Hear, hear! Could be a Libertarian Party press release so far. But then the article veers into, well, mental "chaos".

Marijuana is not legal because for most users it is a drug with one function: Marijuana stupefies its user [...]

So cannabis is so harmful that even the bloodthirsty pirates in government will not stoop to legalize and tax it!

Of course, as anybody who has read this far already knows, nothing is stopping the Captain Hooks of government from plundering the marijuana trade. This is just the way they like it. Cannabis accounts for the majority of drug arrests, and the booty from countless seizures has helped create the Drug War establishment as we know it. It is much easier for government to plunder an illegal industry than settle for a small tax on a legal industry that can organize and lobby in its own defense.

An economics professor should spot this right away. But an economics professor at a school for government bureaucrats (École nationale d'administration publique) knows who butters his bread.

Pity the poor antis. The only commentators who will write in their favor are the ones they've bought.

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Comment #12 posted by observer on August 23, 2001 at 11:38:55 PT
Murphy's Marijuana Laws
Csikszentmihalyi called the feeling such people experience "flow" and theorized that flow banishes the state of entropy into which unoccupied spirits tend to fall.

Marijuana inhibits flow by robbing its users of the ability and desire to concentrate. Nothing productive or uplifting comes from its recreational use.

see:

We know that people smoke marijuana not because they are driven by uncontrollable "Reefer Madness" craving, as some propaganda would lead us to believe, but because they have learned its value from experience. . . .

The rest are sometimes grouped under the general heading of "recreational", but that is hardly an adequate description of, say, marijuana's capacity to catalyze ideas and insights, heighten the appreciation of music and art, or deepen emotional and sexual intimacy.

These kinds of marijuana experiences, which I like to call "enhancement", are often misunderstood and under-appreciated -- not only by non-users, but even by some users, especially young people who are interested mainly in promoting sociability and fun. . . .

Lester Grinspoon, M.D.
http://marijuana-uses.com/

Listing of user experiences, here:
http://marijuana-uses.com/examples/default.htm

see especially the account by Carl Sagan:

[The] account was written in 1969 for publication in Marihuana Reconsidered (1971). Sagan was in his mid-thirties at that time. He continued to use cannabis for the rest of his life.

http://marijuana-uses.com/examples/Mr_X.htm

Marijuana is not legal because for most users it is a drug with one function: Marijuana stupefies its user so that the man who once shone in conversation becomes under its influence a dullard who unsettles family and friends with inanities and disconnected thoughts.

The author of this piece in a Canadian paper would do wll to learn Canadian history.

see:

Canada: The Real Janey Canuck
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v00/n510/a08.html

The Anti-Marijuana Writings Of An Edmonton Woman In The 1920s Were So Influential That Many Of Her Opinions Helped Shape Legislation That Lasted Decades . . . But to whom does Canada owe its antiquated drug laws? One of their earliest and most influential promoters was an Edmonton woman who in 1920 wrote exposes for Maclean's about the illicit drug trade. She called herself Janey Canuck, and it was good old Janey who first warned Canadians about "marahuana." Seven years later, Canada outlawed its use. . . .

Canada: The Real Janey Canuck
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v00/n510/a08.html

also

The Mother of Murphy's Law
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v97/n306/a02.html

etc.

Moreover, the whole piece is an extended example of the prohibitionist theme of associating illness and harm with the drug targeted for prohibition.

''Thus alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine (coffee) began to become increasingly integrated into the very fabric of American life, whereas cocaine, opium, heroin, and subsequently marihuana and the hallucinogens continued to be defined as evil - physically, emotionally, and morally devastating to the individual and unquestionably destructive to the culture. . . .''

NIDA: Themes in Chemical Prohibition, William L. White, 1979
http://drugwarpropaganda.selfhost.com/t.cgi?2



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Comment #11 posted by Ethan Russo, MD on August 23, 2001 at 11:10:48 PT:

Brilliant, Kap
"creativity is usually not a byproduct of such regimentation, but an escape from it. One man's abhorred 'chaos' is another man's fertile breeding ground for world-shaking ideas."

This made me think of a wonderful cartoon from 1970:

Two characters are inside a featureless white box that represents the universe as they know it. One threatens to escape while the other advises against it. The one, finally can take it no longer, so be jumps out into a landscape of beauty and diversity, says, "Oh, wow!" and takes off to a new life. The final frame depicts his erstwhile partner, still inside the box, saying, "He's deluding himself."

This parable is important for what it reveals about close-mindedness. No advancement is possible without creativity. No creativity is likely in an atmosphere of contrived and enforced conformity. Attempts to maintain that conformity necessitate repression that itself encourages rebellion. Cannabis is a catalyst to "thinking outside the box." It highlights the absurdity and pomposity of conflict. Thus, I agree that it is a tool to subversion of the dominant paradigm, but would maintain that it is just the prescription for an ailing society in need of creative solutions. LET MY PEOPLE TOKE! Surely some good will surely come of it, as it has before.


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Comment #10 posted by Sam Adams on August 23, 2001 at 11:04:13 PT
what a joke
Right on N-M, this is humorous. "Uniphasic"? What the HELL is he talking about? All you have to do is take a look at Ted Kennedy's face and you can see the effects of alcohol!

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Comment #9 posted by natural_mystic on August 23, 2001 at 10:56:38 PT
This is your brain on drugs...
Today drug prohibition is modern day apartheid. Long ago the government of USA (or a subset thereof) figured out a way to stealthily keep the "minorities" (either by race, monetary standing, or opinion) warehoused in our nation's prisons, off the street, out of sight, and best of all OUT-OF-MIND!

Drug Prohibition must be exposed as the flimsy racist system of oppression that it is. A great light of truth must be shone on the original architects of this system, as well as those that have nurtured and maintained it through the years.

As for this article, utter unsubstantiated opinion. Consider this broad generalization:
"Put differently, marijuana is a uniphasic drug whose effect is to scramble the mind."

Is that right? Huh, I guess all those millions of individuals who feel that cannabis has the potential to positively augment thier lifestyle are just too mentally "scrambled" to realize they really are headed down a path to sin, degradation, vice, and ... insanity!

Ha, this article is laughable.


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Comment #8 posted by kaptinemo on August 23, 2001 at 10:44:41 PT:

Oh, Boy! TURKEY FOR SUPPER!
M. Professeur Palda has provided us with a full course dinner; dig in!

Shockingly, he makes the unspeakable - for a Professor, no less! - intellectual gaffe of making sweeping generalizations.

"Marijuana stupefies its user...a drug whose central function is to increase chaos in the mind...Marijuana inhibits flow by robbing its users of the ability and desire to concentrate. Nothing productive or uplifting comes from its recreational use..."

Arrete, m'seur! C'est non vraiment!

The Professor heaps scorn upon pot because he says it detracts from the creative process. He likens the creative process to the regimentation described in Csikszentmihaly's study of 'flow'. There's one problem with that; creativity is usually not a byproduct of such regimentation, but an escape from it. One man's abhorred 'chaos' is another man's fertile breeding ground for world-shaking ideas.
For example: If marijuana 'stupefies' it's users, rendering them into incoherent lumps of protoplasm, then how do you explain such luminaries as Carl Sagan? Easily, one of the most prolific, well-read and beloved scientists of our time, Dr. Sagan specifically credited cannabis with the unleashing of creative juices which led to the creation of still yet-to-be-refuted hypotheses concerning the nature of the Universe.

All while getting happily toasted with his equally brilliant wife.

A fluke, Professor? Not bloody likely.

And as to this 'mental chaos' theory; examine the speech patterns of the truly toxically drunk, and you'll find they have much in common with infants. Incoherent and inchoate at the same time. Not so with cannabis; at the risk of sounding boasting, I've had some royally good stuff, the sort where lying down is not an option but a necessity. But I never suffered from an inability to communicate...just a lack of desire to sully anything so profound with lackluster words.

Pity drunks don't share that conviction.

But the creativity factor was definetly enhanced, which is why I keep pen and paper handy. Never know what ideas might come bubbling up.

The Professor here reminds me of the 5 blind men trying to describe an elephant. What's so sad about it is, unlike the blind men, he has an option to open his eyes and see.

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Comment #7 posted by DreamWeaver on August 23, 2001 at 10:44:04 PT:

so what?
Mr. Palda claims that Cannabis dumbs people down, and because of that it's bad. I haven't smoked it in 10+ years, but I don't remember that effect. Sure, I was more relaxed, more talkative, and more peaceful, but I don't remember being any dumber than before. Of course, that's not saying much...

However, that begs the real question. Even if we accept his statement that pot makes one a temporary dullard, who gives a damn? How does it harm society if I render myself stupid in the privacy of my own home, and don't bother anyone?

Bah, I've carried enough coals to Newcastle for today

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Comment #6 posted by Robbie on August 23, 2001 at 10:41:53 PT
Sobriety is for the sober.
This distaste for stupefying drugs goes back to Homer who wrote the cautionary tale of Odysseus rescuing his men from the eternal rave party of the lotus eaters.

Is the writer worried that all will become lotus eaters? "Oh woe is us...everyone will eat the lotus and the progress of the world will come to a grinding halt." I'd rather we all turn into animalia skulking around the bush for some grub rather than progress forward as a race without any soul.

Marijuana inhibits flow by robbing its users of the ability and desire to concentrate.

Does Filip really believe that alcohol does not? If he wants to ban everything that mitigates concentration, no more alcohol, pot, or sex. Orwell's proletariat masses will we become.

What stops the Captain Hooks of government from plundering the marijuana trade?

You're the economics professor...why ask the reader? Besides, since you study economics, you probably champion capitalism. That's what allows those Hookers the ability to talk out of both sides of their mouths.

Nothing productive or uplifting comes from its [cannabis]recreational use.

And alcohol does? Tobacco? Examples?

Marijuana is neither a demon drug nor a major threat to society, but it remains shady among those who value productive individuals with whom it is a joy to work and live.

Oh, I see...so if someone uses marijuana recreationally, it guarantees that they'll show up to work either stoned or stupid?

We must now ask government to censor conduct that stable communities once contained with the wag of a few fingers.

Uhh, I believe you want the old Soviet Union, Sparky. Democracy means never having to say you're sorry for "conduct unbecoming my own narrow viewpoint."



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Comment #5 posted by Patrick on August 23, 2001 at 10:23:07 PT
Oh I am sorry for my last post Filip
I said you are full of crap. That's not entirely true. I suppose my comment supported you mind scramble theory of pot use dumbing people down. So I have to correct myself. Of course you are not full of crap. There is a small amount of crap waiting for your next visit to the stool. Professor of Economics indeed! Guess you have no comment on the supply and demand issue. Your "Expertise?" You have become like the US supreme court, a instant medical expert on cannabis! Wow I am so impressed with your academic research and skills in telling me how pot will scramble my mind. That would be the same pot that encouraged me correct my initial statement? Hey Filip care to smoke some crap?

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Comment #4 posted by Patrick on August 23, 2001 at 10:14:15 PT
Philip I mean Filip
You are full of crap!

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Comment #3 posted by Ethan Russo, MD on August 23, 2001 at 09:43:49 PT:

Stop There!
Most of this essay is unsubstantiated nonsense. One statement is true:

"Alcohol and tobacco are deadlier drugs than marijuana"

That is correct, Sir! Now why do North American societies imprison the cannabis user? No reason is offered, and none is available. Until someone shows compelling justification, which has not been forthcoming the past century of the War on Some Drugs, then it is clear that the policy must be changed immediately.

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Comment #2 posted by The Pathogen on August 23, 2001 at 09:43:40 PT:

Qué?
Does anyone else find that they talk more, feel happier and are more prone to bursts of creativity under the influence of cannabis?

I dunno, maybe my scrambled mind is incapable of seeing the chaos for what it really is...

And are these people completely unaware that cannabis medicines, foodstuffs and even candies were common in the US for a loooong time before prohibition?
Or have they just swallowed the propoganda whole and decided to proselytize upon a subject which they know nothing about?


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Comment #1 posted by ekim on August 23, 2001 at 09:27:13 PT:

typical bean counter
Finds no good use for anything that does not bring one much money. He should re-read Midas

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