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  U.S. - China Rivalry in Asia Drug War
Posted by FoM on August 06, 2001 at 16:11:00 PT
Stratfor Global Intelligence Updates 
Source: WorldNetDaily 

justice Thailand's recent call for help in thwarting drug smuggling confirms that Southeast Asia is fast becoming a second front in the global war on narcotics. But greater support from Washington and other nations will deepen the political rivalry between Washington and Beijing for political dominance in the region.

When the Association of Southeast Asian Nations met in Hanoi on July 25 to identify new ways to cooperate to stop illegal narcotics and arms trafficking in the region, the United States and other members of the 10-nation group agreed to Thailand's proposal to bolster action in the Golden Triangle region of Thailand, Laos and Myanmar.

Southeast Asia is fast becoming the next front in the global war on drugs, second only to the multi-billion-dollar effort underway in South America. Efforts to curb the region's drug-trafficking problem will attract more outside support, including increased U.S. military involvement. But the region will also turn into a political battleground as Washington and Beijing compete for regional hegemony.

With nearly 60 percent of the heroin consumed in the United States coming from Myanmar, the U.S. government has been increasing its involvement in Southeast Asia's anti-drug efforts in response to skyrocketing opium production. Although similar to the U.S. government's effort in South America, the new front lies along the southern flank of China, whose relations with Washington have become tense this year.

Thailand has led regional and international efforts to address the trafficking problem in Southeast Asia, especially in the poppy-rich Golden Triangle. The Thai government recently signed an agreement with Cambodia to strengthen military cooperation to fight cross-border crimes, according to a news report on July 20 in the Bangkok Nation. Discussions are also underway with Vietnam and other neighbors for joint policing along their borders, where drug traffickers and rebel groups often operate with impunity.

Bangkok also is struggling against a massive flood of heroin and amphetamines from neighboring Myanmar and, to a lesser extent, Malaysia. Thailand continues to trade barbs and military threats with the communist military junta in Rangoon. In April, Thailand and Myanmar amassed troops along their border and placed their armies on the highest alert in decades, according to Interfax News Agency.

But there are problems for the Thai government at home as well. Thailand suffers from rampant corruption within elements of its security forces, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency and local media reports.

A significant element of the current anti-drug effort in Southeast Asia is the growing involvement of the U.S. government. This has occurred in part because of the sharp reduction of opium crops in other global drug-production centers. The Taliban has shut down poppy production in Afghanistan, China is successfully cracking down in its own border regions, and a major multi-national campaign is continuing in Colombia.

That U.S. involvement is becoming increasingly militarized under the Bush administration. The U.S. military has had a long relationship with Bangkok, conducting the major Cobra Gold military exercise in Thailand annually. But, for the first time, the United States, at Thailand's request, has dispatched Special Forces to train the Thai military in counter-narcotics operations. Media reports say more than 40 U.S. military trainers have been operating in the northern Thai province of Chiang Rai – near the border with Myanmar – since March.

America's deepening involvement raises the stakes in its competition with China over influence in Southeast Asia – particularly since China's only true ally in the region, Myanmar, has become one of the major drug targets.

Washington has long been active along the Thailand-Myanmar border, according to the U.S. Congressional Research Service. Western anti-drug agents consider the government-allied United Wa State Army force as one of the largest and best-armed drug organizations in the world. The force, consisting of 5,000 ethnic tribesmen in Myanmar's eastern Shan state, is allied with the military rulers in Rangoon and is directly involved in drug trafficking to the United States.

Beijing has supplied the United Wa force with weapons – including surface-to-air missiles – for its fight against other ethnic groups in the region. In exchange, the United Wa is helping construct a network of roads that could enable Beijing to gain land access to ports in Myanmar. This could lead to the Chinese navy gaining access to the Indian Ocean for the first time.

Should that occur, China would be able to influence maritime operations on both sides of the Straits of Malacca, not just in the South China Sea. It would also significantly enhance the reach of its navy, something Beijing has been working overtime to accomplish but which the United States has been trying to prevent.

China-U.S. ties would also be hurt if Washington's anti-drug efforts succeed in pushing the narcotics trade back across the Chinese border, or if Washington's involvement results in closer ties with traditional Beijing allies such as Vietnam.

Note: Increased military involvement projected in Thailand.

Source: WorldNetDaily (US Web)
Published: Tuesday, August 7, 2001
Copyright: 2001 WorldNetDaily.com, Inc.
Contact: letters@worldnetdaily.com
Website: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/

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Comment #16 posted by Cannabis Crusader on August 07, 2001 at 13:31:57 PT
Exactly
dddd, that is exactly what I was saying to my girlfriend. It seem it was set up so that Bennett would only have to answer the pro-prohibitionist questions. There were no discussion on the violent crime that is created with the prohibition of these "problem" drugs. This was definitely a "SPIN" session for the prohibitionist.

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Comment #15 posted by dddd on August 07, 2001 at 07:32:08 PT
Kevin
I must also admit,,,,the fact I caused you to laugh makes my day.

Thank You....dddd

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Comment #14 posted by Morgan on August 07, 2001 at 07:21:16 PT
Plan for failure
This is interesting.

When the Brits decided to 'decriminalize' cannabis in
Brixton for a 6-month test period, I thought that this was
a step foward. But upon further thinking, I'm now of the
opinion that this 'test' was designed to fail, thus giving
the anti's ammunition to prolong the war.

I think their plan goes something like this. We declare a
small area a test area 'decriminalised', to appease the
growing chorus of legalizers. What will happen is that
every drug dealer in the country will gravitate to this
small, enclosed area, resulting in turf wars, violence,
and increased presence of not just cannabis, but every
other illegal drug known to man, resulting in an
increase of arrests.

At the end of this experiment, the anti's will add up the
figures, and declare that this 'test' was a failure, which
they will trumpet throughout the world through the
media. "See, " they will say ," we gave it a shot, and this
is what happens. An increase in violence, murders,
theft across the board. This is what will happen the
world over if you legalize drugs. Is this what you want?
Case closed."

Maybe this is what Bill Bennent has in mind?

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Comment #13 posted by Kevin Hebert on August 07, 2001 at 07:06:58 PT:

dddd
I have to admit, the phrase "tournament style power-barf" made me laugh out loud.

I caught Bennett last night; the problem I had was, where was the oppossing viewpoint? When are they going to put one of us on the air to speak our side?

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Comment #12 posted by Toker00 on August 07, 2001 at 06:43:24 PT
Give peace and legalization a chance.
I agree with the five year plan, Dan. But I'm afraid at the end of the trial run, there would be such a loss to the PRISON COMPLEX and other vested interests, as well as a decline in sales of alcohol and pharmecueticals, they would shut it down. It would be nice to see the result of (if it included ALL drugs), criminality, overdose deaths, and spread of disease from dirty needles, though. Still, I believe they would base it on how it affects vested interest groups. I hope I would be proven wrong.

Peace. Realize, then Legalize.

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Comment #11 posted by dddd on August 07, 2001 at 06:16:02 PT
Excellent Points Dr. Dan
....you are so right about the scenario of it actually happening....They would
probably just make it so for anyone to legally use drugs,,they would have to
be a "registered user",,,,

it wont happen ...98% of everybody knows that Bill Bennett has his own
challenges in life,,,,,the worst of which would include being a hypocrital
a#*hole.....and quite frankly,,,,his childrens book of "virtures",,,,,,
,,,,,,makes me want to do a tournament style power-barf.........

d
dd
d


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Comment #10 posted by Dan B on August 07, 2001 at 05:57:44 PT:

Bennett's comments as I see them
Suppose Bill Bennett got his wish, and all drugs were legalized in just one state for 18 months. Do you really think that he hasn't already developed a plan for "proving" that such an experiment would be a dismal failure?

Here are some factors to consider:

(1) We know how we would implement "legalization;" what we don't know is how Bennett would do it. Would he simply declare a free-for-all? That would be a sure way to create false "proof" that "legalization doesn't work." No, if legalization were implemented, it would have to be done correctly. We would have to set up harm reduction measures first (needle exchanges, safe injection sites, information campaigns about the relative dangers of drugs and how to minimize dangers associated with certain drugs, etc.), and there would have to be a hierarchy of availability (cannabis products sold in limited quantities via Holland-style coffee shops; psychedelics sold by licensed distributors with information about what to expect and ways to reduce the danger of potential accidents; harder drugs regulated by physicians in a fashion similar to what is done in Switzerland, etc.). In other words, there are ways to make it work, and there are ways to make it fail. If they decided to "legalize" in one state, we'd have to find out what they mean by "legalize" and force them to do what works.

(2) We also need to look into what they will consider to be the most important aspects of the experiment to study. In other words, will they only look at use rates, and if so, for which drugs? Would they lump cannabis in with all the other drugs? If so, they will likely see an increase in drug use during the first 12-18 months, after which they will likely see a tapering off, followed by a slow, steady decline in overall drug use.* So, if they only give the experiment 18 months, they will likely be able to claim a "moral victory" for prohibition due to increased use and shut down legalization altogether.
No, to make such an experiment meaningful, they'd have to give it at least three years, if not five. And they'd have to assess more than just rates of usage. They'd have to look into overdose rates, crime rates, hospital admissions, etc. Lifetime use rates would have to be given the least attention in favor of past month rates, which more accurately describe the current drug using climate.

(3) Of course, just because Bennett said it does not mean that it will happen. So, the most important thing to remember about this statement is that we can't even come close to counting on it. It is interesting to consider the possibilities, but lets also keep our eyes on the prize, so to speak. What we really need is not a free for all in one state, but legalization and regulation for the whole planet. And no jail time, period.


Dan B




*Here's why there would be an initial increase: (a) there would likely be an initial influx of drug users into the state. Think about it; if cannabis were legal in, say, California, how many of us would move out west? (b) curiosity combined with availability would spur more people to try cannabis, at least, and (c) legalizing would cause prices to fall, thereby making these drugs more available to a larger group of people.

*Here is why it would taper off, then decrease: (a) after 12-18 months, the novelty will have worn off for the locals. Sure, there would be drug tourists, much like one finds in Holland, but use in the general community would fall drastically once the novelty wears off, (b) once the effects of hard drug use are more widely known due to no longer brushing it out of society's view, the allure of that scene will also likely diminish, and (c) separation of the hard and soft drug markets would further decrease the chances that people who want to buy cannabis or mushrooms would encounter people who also want to sell them cocaine or heroin.



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Comment #9 posted by dddd on August 07, 2001 at 00:12:40 PT
Gary Johnson
I'd go with that NewMexican...like I said,,California will
probably go that direction regardless of this bizarre Bill
Bennett thing....dddd


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Comment #8 posted by dddd on August 07, 2001 at 00:09:01 PT
I'll third it
The Golden State would be the obvious choice,,,probably
because it will do it regardless of Bennetts astonishing suggestion,
(it's hard to believe he said it)..

...As to this article,,,it's now going to be that countries such as Thialand
are going to compete for the "drug war",funding and assistance from
the US and China...and we know what "drug war assistance" means..We
can use Colombia as an example...it's the perfect excuse to become
involved in the countrys military,which is an excellent shortcut to
dominating the target country,,,,combine this with the financial
carrot,and you can more or less take over a country,,with the approval
of the countrys government,and military......If it was a game of "Risk",
I think it would be cheating,,,,,,and this aint no game,,this is a world
dominance ploy at its most underhanded and devious levels....


dddd


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Comment #7 posted by New Mexican on August 07, 2001 at 00:03:05 PT
Gary Johnson deseves the honor!
Nothing against the Golden State of Mind, but only the Gov
will do it right! Whad'yall think?


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Comment #6 posted by Shishaldin on August 06, 2001 at 22:15:16 PT
I'll second that nomination....
Fine idea, lookinside!! Being a native of the Golden State for all of my 35 years, I've seen how trends start out here and gradually, inexorably migrate across our country. We'll make it fashionable (as I've noticed with Hemp clothing) and the rest of the country will just be so "green" with envy, they'll have to join the bandwagon.

The walls are-a tumblin' down...

Peace and strength,
Shishaldin


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Comment #5 posted by lookinside on August 06, 2001 at 20:13:36 PT:

i volunteer...


CALIFORNIA!!!


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Comment #4 posted by FoM on August 06, 2001 at 18:58:33 PT
Pontifex
He said it. He seemed a little deflated because of all the fuss we are making over marijuana and he is concerned that Walters isn't liked very well. I don't know if the program has transcripts but I'll look around. It was on other topics so I would probably just post the drug discussion part if I can find anything. I'll be checking. He really seemed somewhat sincere and at a loss for what to do. I'm not use to seeing him act that way. He still has a powerful ego though and I would be afraid of running into him. He's a scary dude.

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Comment #3 posted by Pontifex on August 06, 2001 at 18:51:03 PT
Bill Bennett said wha...?
You're kidding, FoM! Did he really say that?

This means one of two things: either Bennett is being disingenuous, or he really believes that 18 months of legalization would provide justification for continued prohibition.

Is he right? If they legalized drugs in just one state, would there be less crime, better health, more money, and more honest law enforcement?

I'd bank it all on YES. The only trouble, I'd wager, is finding a willing state. :)

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Comment #2 posted by FoM on August 06, 2001 at 16:55:02 PT
I Just Heard!
Before I forget what I heard I want to post it. I was watching Chris Matthews on MSNBC's Hardball. Bill Bennett was a guest.

Bill Bennett said: I think we need to give one state a 18 month time of drug legalization as a test. He wasn't kidding either. I almost fainted!

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Comment #1 posted by Pontifex on August 06, 2001 at 16:50:57 PT:

Nixon's lost opportunity
Richard Nixon really dropped the ball on justifying the
Vietnam quagmire.

He should have known the communist threat was a
tired excuse and wouldn't play in 1972.

The very man who gave us our modern War on Drugs
failed to realize its potential to justify overseas military
action.

If Nixon and Kissinger had only been shrewd enough to
beat the "For The Children" drum, they could have kept
their war and perhaps the presidency too.

Just the one area where Nixon wasn't ahead of his
time, I suppose.

China hasn't missed the lessons of Columbia either.
Hopefully, we'll all get treated to the butchers of
Tianenmen posing as champions of clean living and
protectors of the children as an excuse to occupy SE
Asia.


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