Our well-mannered neighbor to the north is adopting the world's first federal regulatory system for medical marijuana. As of July 30, people can grow and possess marijuana if they are terminally ill or otherwise have the recommendation of a general practitioner and specialist.

i'm pretty sure rense.com will be right up your alley,
be sure to check the "archived shows" link to http://broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/.
there are FIVE years of shows now.

actually, i think he's syndicated on more stations out west, you might be able to hear it on real radio, live.

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California? Nope, Wisconsin.
the left coast sounds nicer everyday,
seems like you guys are ahead of the curve as far as WoD sanity is concerned...

i do have some friends who are thinking of road-tripping
out that way...
big state, though... probably 500 miles from you...

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well, why not? i guess you can handle it.
i put my email address on here,
and if you send me an email,
i have a throughly detailed, first-hand, missing time story to send back.

it's way too long to post here.

that goes for anyone who is interested,
if anybody besides dddd and me are still reading this.

I found that broiled bird article on this excellent site;

http://prorev.com/indexa.htm

It's full of good stuff,and has daily news commentaries.

Your comments are great,,,,and concerning the "nut" labels thing,
I have a bunch of them,,and display them proudly....the only
people who are uncomfortable about such things,are the few
that have narrow minds,and that's a label that I will never wear.

I'm gonna check out your links now.

Are you a Californian,Jorma?

but the more i think about it, the more parallels i drew:

massive amounts of anecdotal evidence that the prevailing wisdom
on a subject is quite in error, but not Proof...
(or, whatever proof you have will simply never be good enough)

the almost autonomic "ha-ha" reflex that has been so skillfully ingrained in people...

some Minority has decided the Majority is incapable of handling certain substances/ideas,
and so the Minority is determined to
defend The People from themselves,
by Any Means Neccessary,
for their own good.

again i'm talking about prohibition in a very broad sense,
applying to prohibition of cannabis,
prohibition of discussing the messy details of how gov't really works,
prohibition of discussing what-ever-the-hell-it-is-people see flying around, etc.

>and of course,,
>whenever one tries to discuss such things,or tell people of them,,
>,the "nut" label is immediatly applied.

true, that's what people have been taught to think,
but i increasily broach these topics in conversation now...

not everybody smokes weed, not everybody's seen a UFO,
but i've meet very few people who don't
know someone who has tried weed, and didn't go insane;
know someone who has had a UFO or paranormal experience,
somebody they don't regard as an idiot.

and yeah, some people do call me a fool to my face,
so what?
the feeling is quite mutual.

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actually it's a big net - dddd,
where did you pick up the crispy crow story?

my favorite source of info is http://www.rense.com/

was a mainstream anchor who actually discovered his conscience,
and got fed up having to ignore the issues he was told to.

he does a syndicated talk show,
and there are years of streaming audio archives to listen to...

runs a news service packed with fascinating articles: UFO, paranormal research, straight science, politics...
and, of course, some stories i personally find weak,
inevitable when you run the table like he does.

hey look, not the main topic by any means, but here's:
"Former UK Ambassador To
Columbia Says Anti-Drug
War Unwinnable"
http://www.rense.com/general11/MASJ.HTM

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so i say, don't be afraid to discuss things you feel are important.

I tend to agree Jorma,about the Fisher-Price thing.I think that
a Tesla coil is a very crude version of something extraordinary.
..
..and this point connects with what Kap mentioned about the covert
activities that go on daily,,yet are obscured from the public.That's
why it's no wonder that they are not too concerned about what the
"silver rain" in Colombia is doing...Compared to other things they
are getting away with,it's probably quite trivial.,,,and of course,,
whenever one tries to discuss such things,or tell people of them,,
,the "nut" label is immediatly applied...It is always good to meet
others who are hep to such things,but I feel it's kinda bad to go too
far into them in this particular forum.......I'm a real culprit when it
comes to straying off topic.

(note: stuff below is just different things i've heard,
i can't guarentee they are all real)

i've heard rumors ranging from "ionic warfare" as you've described,

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to weather modification:
heat a big enough chunk of atmosphere at the right time,
and you can shift pressure systems around...
(contributor to recent unprecented violent weather???)

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to frequencies that can induce changes in emotional states...

rumored to have been used in the Gulf Massacre to cause Iraqis to panic,
and i wonder sometimes if they don't have the whole US
set on low simmering apathy,
to keep the rabble in line.
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and i won't even go into the far-fetched rumors
i've heard...

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but i guess the point to me is,
if even 1/5 of all these rumors are true,
more than 1 in about 50 people should know about HAARP...

what's the line about treating civilians like mushrooms?
something like: feed them sh*t and keep them in the dark...

of course, they can't tell us
what they are doing
with our money,
for our own good.

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dddd:

"quite obvious if they were to be built out in the barren
western deserts."

i'm still not convinced...
there are spots you can't get
to within twenty miles of a line of sight to
without being on shoot-to-kill territory...
(hyperbole, perhaps, but about right in principle)

i meant on a huge military testing range, not just any old middle of nowhere.

but anyways, for this specific incedent, i hadn't thought of a secret experiment that accidently fried some birds publicly... good point.

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and yet: from the WJKM article, about halfway thru:
"Listeners have seen strange objects overhead.
Listeners have claimed to see triangular shaped craft overhead. Silent black helicopters at all hours of the night. Huge military C-130's heading in as if to land or leaving the area nose up as if they have just taken off."

i've heard of this kind of activity before, too...
and i bet you know what i'm thinking...

Keep something in mind: the scientists at Los Alamos didn't know whether the first fission bomb might electrically excite all the noble gasses (like neon) in the atmosphere, torching it and immolating everything on Earth.

But they pushed the button, anyway. Just to see what would happen.

And now scientists are playing around with a device that can actually remove local ionospheric protection from as large an area as they want. Rather like dumping a s**t-load of Freon into the upper atmosphere, causing a 'hole' to open on the ozone layer. Allowing cosmic radiation to rain down upon the target area, and presumably every living thing under it.

Which won't be living for very long; radiation sickness is a hell of a way to die.

These are the same mindsets that have brought us 'silvery rain' (from an old Olivia Newton-John song) in Colombia, and swear up and down that it's so wonderfully safe.

this site did remind me of something a close friend told me
in the mid 70s...he was a civilian computer programmer in
the pentagon(with a ponytail halfway down his back!) in
1970...one of the things that the military had on the big
dollar fasttrack at the time was an airborn(spaceborn?)
laser weapon...the power needed for such a weapon is in the
multi megawatt range...too much to generate on an
aircraft...they were beginning to experiment with wireless
power transmission...trying to develop the capability to
transfer the needed power to an aircraft in flight...with
computer technology where it is today, this could be
possible now, especially with all us workerbees paying our
taxes...pity the birds who get in the line of transmission!

on cannabis breeding...the seeds of "pure" strains all
produce plants that appear similar with little variation in
quality...durban poison is considered to be a pure
sativa...it grows tall, with extra long stems on the
sunleaves(easy to manicure!) it matures very early
also..consistently...

hybrids can be all over the map...the largest plant i've
grown was a hybrid...very high quality too...some of it's
sisters were very disappointing..small weak plants that
never quite "finished"...

Don't forget, also, DEAland's own HAARP ... this isn't one that angels would play!

An interesting sidebar: Most of Tesla's documents were confiscated by the FBI shortly after his death and many still haven't been made public. A lot of attention for someone everybody thought was nuts!

Edison: "Genius is 10% inspiration and 90% perspiration."

Tesla: "If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found the object of his search. I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety percent of his labor."

Good is what brings us closer to God. Evil is what drives us farther away and increases our separation. For this reason, although there are others, cannabis is good.

A curse upon the evil ones who persecute the innocent and pure of heart for unless they repent and plead forgiveness their actions will surely be returned upon them in double measure.

To divine hybrids from purebred strains, it is necessary
to cross-breed them. If the offspring are very diverse,
then at least one of the parents is a hybrid.

But then, why are you wasting your flowers making
hemp seed? Smoke them, I say, and leave the
taxonomy to the professionals who have plants to burn!

Cannabis Sativa is fruiting (achenes) each month of the year on both sides of the streets in the United States of America. Growroomers are Angels of the Almighty...doing God's work. Yes People!

Crystal Clear Waters are flowing down the centers of our streets in bottled spring water from the cleanest springs in the world. Yes People! Car Drivers carrying bottled water are Angels of God...doing God's work. Yes People!

Nation after Nation...the leaves are medicine. Yes People!

Praise Jah Rastafar-I for mankind now stands on the final words of the Bible: "The Grace of the Lord Jesus be with the All. Ahmen."

I aggree with that statement. After partaking for 32 years the first buzz of the day never changes for whatever type of smoke you have, at least for me. I believe that opiates have a tolerance effect, ie; you start doing morphine and it takes more and more to achieve the same effect over time. Same with achohol, and a lot of other drugs.

That was my point.

R.Earing said: 30 members responded positively to a poll question about intermitently switching strains to avoid tolerance to the particular cannibinoid profile of the strain.

That is not tolerance, that is getting bored with your current smoke and wanting somthing different. Like I said, with any type of smoke if you can take a couple of tokes and get a buzz every day for years, there is no tolerance buildup. Of course this is all just my humble opinion.

I went to the link you provided. Damn if Uncle isn't up to more stupidity, again. Really dangerous s**t, too.

As if they haven't got enough trouble screwing around with the environment, they have to let off non-nuclear Electro-Magnetic Pulses into the atmosphere. That's the only thing that could account for the electronic equipment getting fried...and anything in really close proximity to electrical lines. Those people were lucky they weren't touching anything grounded when the pulse went off.

(I'm a tech, remember? Radio Frequency applications were my bread-and-butter for the longest time. And I was a Ham radio operator and a Communications Officer for a local CAP squadron in the 1970's. Not to mention a 'puter tech. I know how to thoroughly f**k up anything electrical with EMFs)

Well, in a nutshell here's how it works:

Until recently, no one knew how to classify the weed, marijuana. It has been put in every slot from ... well, enough of that. But anyway, they got it straight and broke it down like so:

cannabis sativa l. <--- native mostly to western hem
cannabis indica l. <--- native mostly in Asia
cannabis ruderalis l. <--- Russia, upper Europe

Anyway, when a strain is "pure" or "true breeding" that means it will ALWAYS have the growth carachteristics of that strain. For example, when you have a PURE Afghan strain, you know that if you plant a hundred seeds, then 100 plants will be indica, look and smell heady, and look much like EACH OTHER. Pure strains are sought for breeding because it's easier to get the traits you want when there isn't a lot of variation.

ON THE OTHER HAND there are hybrids (Northern Lights x Skunk x Big bud, etc.) These are plants that are usually indica x sativa crosses (they aren't ALWAYS but usually) and a hybrid is not going to be the same if you plant the seeds. Hybrids are sought for there extremes, (be it in yield, potency, etc.) and are RARELY grown for breeding. In a nutshell, it doesn't really affect the quality of the herb, although breeders like to think so and that's why they are into genetics.

For breeders, it's important to know because it's easier for people like US to grow better pot for people like YOU. :)

For the common smoker's sake, hybrids, pure strains, F1 hybrids, etc., are meaningless terms and the only thing that matters is if your shit gets you high.

Hope it was helpful!

class....dismissed!

sly in ....green... foxy in................kind.

I find no need for increased doses, having consumed very regularly for many years. On the other hand, I often find those used to standard commercial product are initially overwhelmed by the good stuff, which also implies tolerance as they are able to smoke more after they get used to it. However, this could also imply that they are simply learning to cope with the stronger effects over time, and not experiencing an actual lessening of effect. I also simply tend to get bored with one strain over a long period of use, so any tolerance effect could be entirely pyschological.

In addition to this strain-tolerance, whatever the cause, I've also observed that blending certain pure Sativas (Like Durban Poison) With Indicas will actually DIMINISH the effect of either smoked alone.

Of course, this is all based on analysis of my own observations, and it is quite possible that the perceived differences in effect are influenced by external factors other than dose and strain, such as mood, setting,individual response, experience, etc.

An In-Depth Historical and Scientific Review of Cannabis in Migraine Treatment

Ethan Russo M.D.

Hemp For Headaches
http://www.montananorml.org/docs/Hemp_for_Headache.PDF

FDA Approves Marijuana Study On Migraines
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread3222.shtml