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  US Criticizes Europe on Drug Fight
Posted by FoM on June 28, 2001 at 18:06:26 PT
By The Associated Press  
Source: Associated Press 

justice Lawmakers and the Bush administration expressed frustration Thursday with the aid European nations have provided so far to help drug fighting efforts in the Andean nations of South America.

"One-third of the cocaine from this region is now headed for Europe," said Rep. Benjamin Gilman, R-N.Y., "and places like Holland, Belgium and others in Europe provide large uncontrolled quantities of the precursor chemicals to the region that help make the drugs, which, in turn, flow back to Europe."

The Bush administration has budgeted $882 million in aid for a drug fighting effort targeting several Andean nations in a follow-up program to "Plan Colombia" that directs more attention to social and economic programs than last year's military-heavy plan.

Last year, the United States provided Colombia with $1.3 billion in aid, mostly in combat helicopters and other military assistance. Bordering countries soon sought similar U.S. aid as they detected Colombian narcotics producers moving in and other effects of "Plan Colombia" spilling over their borders.

So far, Europe has provided $300 million to the effort, said Michael Deal of the U.S. Agency for International Development's Latin American bureau.

Deal called the contribution substantial, but disappointing.

"We think they could do a lot more," he told members of the House International Relations Subcommittee.

However, now that the U.S. has widened its focus from Colombia to the entire Andean region -- and shifted from a military emphasis to a more balanced approach -- European nations are indicating a willingness to help more, said William Brownfield, a deputy assistant secretary of state dealing with Western Hemisphere matters.

"But I don't wish to understate this case. We had hoped for more. We are disappointed so far," Brownfield said.

Source: Associated Press
Published: Thursday, June 28, 2001
Copyright: 2001 Associated Press

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Comment #23 posted by acidman on December 23, 2001 at 08:14:27 PT:

hops
So does anyone actually know if spliced hops/cannabis plants are viable? There must be some biology students out there.I am VERY interested in this line of research and need to find more information concerning modified skunk/hops plants.

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Comment #22 posted by firedog on June 30, 2001 at 20:41:17 PT
THC Virus
I always thought a "THC virus" would be particularly interesting.

Take a harmless virus or bacterium, of which there are plenty, and insert the appropriate THC-producing gene(s). Presto change-o! Instant THC plague across the land!

Similar things are being done today in biotech and pharmaceutical companies across the world in order to produce various other therapeutic drugs. The art has mostly been taken out of it. It is now mostly a science. This project should be easy to implement.

I am not going to comment on the ethics of doing such a thing, but the technique is certainly available.

- Firedog

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Comment #21 posted by rabblerouser on June 30, 2001 at 05:08:53 PT
hops and pot
Humulus lupulus, cannabis sativa, and cannabis sativa
variety indica are in the family cannabinaceae. "The family
includes 2 genera and 3 species, widely distributed and
mostly of considerable economic significance." Quoted from
The Taxonomy of Flowering Plants by C.L. Porter, University
of Wyoming. Have a nice day.


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Comment #20 posted by lookinside on June 29, 2001 at 22:51:37 PT:

great thread...
as i understood it years ago...if you graft a hops shoot
onto cannabis roots...you get a hop plant with no thc.. you
do the reverse you get a pot plant, which has THC but LOOKS
like what it is...what's the point?

i read the story(i first thought it had actually happened)
about the THC producing oranges...(i would plant my backyard
with citrus, maybe even tear down part of the house to make
more room...) bummer when i discovered it was just humor...

genetic engineering is becoming awful easy with a little
training... we may have some REALLY interesting broccoli(a
WINTER crop!) in a few years...

my favorite dream: freestone cannibinoid peaches...i'd kill
myself trying to eat them ALL...LOL


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Comment #19 posted by Rambler on June 29, 2001 at 14:49:01 PT
tryin' to score
I'm still tryin' to get a hold of Rocky or Bullwinkle,or maybe Boris,to see
if they might know where I can score some Upsedaisium


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Comment #18 posted by FoM on June 29, 2001 at 14:23:27 PT
My 2 cents
Wouldn't it be nice if you could graph Cannabis and Saint John's Wort. You'd never stop laughing.

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Comment #17 posted by dddd on June 29, 2001 at 13:50:32 PT
hopenstein grafting
You can get hop plants fairly easily.....Back in the
days of bellbottoms and black lights,I had a friend
who successfully did a graft to a hop plant.I tried
numerous times with no luck.I finally abandoned the
project because back then,normal pot plants were
not prison material....the worst that could happen is
your dad would chew you out if he found them,,and
knew what they were,,,,,plus,I got tired of lopping
off prime greenery from my plants,and having them
shrivel in my frankenstonian grafting attempts......
..When successfully done,,the procedure does not produce
some sort of unrecognizable stealth plant,it just grows
an almost normal looking weed growth from the hop host.


ahhhh.....those were the days....dddd


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Comment #16 posted by Sudaca on June 29, 2001 at 12:55:33 PT
the tomato
TOMAHIGK was the name.. now their site is down. but search around and you'll get the story

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Comment #15 posted by Sudaca on June 29, 2001 at 12:48:41 PT
Hops
as i understand it , the grafting process is not too hard (cannabis / lupulus) .
The problem is that its really hard to get hops cuttings from the hops produces because the grafting
is actually a known trick

Since the hops producers are really essential for the beer producers they can't afford to get prohibited as a knee jerk reaction to the pot hop plant.

Did any of you see or read about the tomato cannabis story? Man lets see if I can find a link, this is what you're talking about..

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Comment #14 posted by Doug on June 29, 2001 at 08:55:50 PT
On a Related Note
I am told by someone who knows that hops, from which they make beer, and hemp, are closely related. That's where the term "hophead" came from. It is possible to splice the hop plant to the hemp root (which is in charge of producing the resin we're interested in) and come up with an innocent looking hop plant that happens to produce THC resin. This plant could be grown in public becuae it doesn't look like anything illegal. I'm told the reason this has not been done is that it takes some work and skill.

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Comment #13 posted by kaptinemo on June 29, 2001 at 06:00:35 PT:

Oh God, I love it!
Lehder's idea is nothing new, but the yeast gambit is perfect!

Without going into how I know, I have it on good authority - from someone who is an expert in the field of genetic engineering - that what Lehder proposes is eminently possible. Plant DNA is much simpler to manipulate than animal DNA; in fact according to my source, you could take the part of a rhinovirus that causes The Common Cold out of it's delivery mechanism and insert something else in it and it will deliver that just as easily.

Now imagine someone learning how to duplicate the trichome producing gene of cannabis and transplanting it to an equally common - but much less notorious - weed. Or even better, a food plant, like lettuce. Or potatoes. Any large-surface leaf plant would be ideal.

Given its' propensity for histrionics, I can just imagine the Government talking heads shrieking that they have to protect America's Youth from...lettuce. Celery. Potatoes. Of particular attention would be produce made in nations that also formally produced the illicit drugs. Gotta quarantine those Colombian coffee beans, they might pollute our children with camouflaged cannabis!

It's been said before that the more obvious an irrational act is made to the public, the more likely they will be to cause it to be discontinued. Joe Sixpack is absolutely clueless as to what can happen to him if he's ensnared in the DrugWar he acquiesces to everyday. But get between him and his beer because of possible genetic alterations in the hops and yeast, and he'll get upset. Very upset.

Just like the line about donkeys and two-by-fours.

It would be a vegetable-hating child's dream come true.

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Comment #12 posted by dddd on June 29, 2001 at 05:32:58 PT
P.S.
I already am a "kingpin",and a "ma(r)keting genius"....

.....but only in my own mindddd

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Comment #11 posted by dddd on June 29, 2001 at 05:29:50 PT
the next thing
Interesting concepts Lehder,,,,I imagine someday a DNA/biotech
hack will come through with Crackajuana bushes that look exactly
like corn or soybean plants.....now that would really put an end to
the drug war

dddd

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Comment #10 posted by Lehder on June 29, 2001 at 05:14:18 PT
Fantastic!
Krack Kaffeine!
dddd, one day you will be a kingpin! A maketing genius!
Caffeine pills like no-doz, by the way, i recently read have been made illegal in Finland because kids were taking bunches of them to get "high". Your Special K would be a hit there.

I had a similar idea a while ago about a drug-to-be that would end the war on drugs. I wish I knew a little more about biology.

one day i was looking at drawings of amino acids in a text book on physiology. Now, not knowing much about biology, i'm going to be off some here, but as i very roughly understand these things, RNA copies little chunks of information from DNA and then scampers about using the instructions to build amino acids. Now many of these amino acids in the pictures looked similar to some of the illegal chemicals like methamphetamine and ecstasy that have carbon rings with various appendages sticking out of them. So with some genetic splicing one should be able to plant an engineered DNA strand in a bacterium like e-coli that would then provide the instructions for a natural synthesis of a mind-altering drug. In other words, drugs could be manufactured in a process very similar to the production of alcohol from yeast and sugar. You simply dump a packet of the engineered bacteria ( like the yeast ) into a bucket of very common chemicals, wait a week or two and find a bucketful of dope. So instead of smuggling tons of dope across borders, one need only transport a small packet of "yeast". This would spread rapidly until everyone had all the yeast she could use, all for free, thus ending the war on drugs as palpably and utterly futile. Whenever it rained, the drug plows would have to be brought out to clear the roads of bubbling, fermenting mind-altering dope. Let them fight that war.

Somebody's gonna do this. It's legal. And while the profits would not last for long, the initiator would reap a windfall. And be a heroine too, bringing peace to a drug war riddled world.


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Comment #9 posted by J.R. Bob Dobbs on June 29, 2001 at 05:05:16 PT
Choices, options and tolerance
I've never snorted street cocaine, but I have always been curious just to chew on a leaf like a native. I'm not sure I'd smoke caffeine, though - though I suppose I could see people putting some in a joint. I'd be much more interested in brewing cannabis coffee...

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Comment #8 posted by dddd on June 29, 2001 at 04:39:56 PT
KrackaJava
Lehder,,,,your comment gave me a great idea,,,,,I will
refine and develop the new drug that will change everything;

Krack Caffeine,,the new potent smokable form of caffeine,derived
from common Yuban,or Folgers......wouldnt that be a wonderful
curveball to toss into the drug war!......Juan Valdez would be the
new poster boy reformed junkie,doing public service ads for the
ondcp at 4:30 in the morning;;,,"I can keep a kid off Kraffeine"...

d
..........d
...d
........d


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Comment #7 posted by kaptinemo on June 29, 2001 at 04:30:18 PT:

The Great Disconnect
I'm having flashbacks without benefit of having danced with Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.

Being an old fart, I remember the news conferences and talking head shows of the 1960's where pols and bureaucrats and generals (far from the rice paddies and mountains of the combat zones) would pontificate nightly on the Tube about how we were winnning the war in The 'Nam. This would be juxtaposed against the rising body count...of US forces.

The Best and the Brightest would get on screen and go on at length about how this new policy or that one would secure victory. But on the nightly news, our guys with their a** in the grass, would give a very different viewpoint. One not welcomed by the Brass.

The was a huge disconnect between the policy makers in Washington DC and the real policy makers, the grunts forced to slug it out with an enemy that had all the natural advantages you could ask for.

The reality didn't match the propaganda, obviously. But it took tens of thousands of US lives and God knows how many Viet ones before Washington got the message.

The Europeans at the time were watching all this with jaded amusement. The French had already had their 'go of it' and knew from bitter experience how the scenario would play out; they'd had the same thing happen to them. But Uncle was so cock-sure that he could do what other nations couldn't that he just got in deeper and deeper into the quicksand.

The Europeans, with their long history of warfare, are only too well aware of the patterns of involvement in any conflict, how they start with very small, hardly noticed 'incidents'...and then quickly mushroom into bloodbaths. They are watching our 'experiment' in Colombia and see exactly where this is leading. Can we blame them if they are smart enough to sit this out on the sidelines and let Uncle take his lumps for being so stupid?

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Comment #6 posted by Lehder on June 29, 2001 at 04:27:36 PT
Good morning. Don't forget your pills.
Lawmakers and the Bush administration expressed frustration Thursday with the aid European nations have provided so far to help drug fighting efforts in the Andean nations of South America.
If Bush and his "lawmakers" had read cannabisnews.com then they would have known that the European Parliament had voted 474-1 against providing any aid to the U.S. Plan Colombia. I'm sure there is a pill for frustration, probably available right across from the White House.

...a drug fighting effort targeting several Andean nations in a follow-up program to "Plan Colombia"....
Yeah - Plan Gran Colombia. Totalitarian movements are global in scope, and Plan Colombia means all of South America starting with anyplace that has petroleum.

"One-third of the cocaine from this region is now headed for Europe," said Rep. Benjamin Gilman, R-N.Y., "and places like Holland, Belgium and others in Europe provide large uncontrolled quantities of the precursor chemicals to the region that help make the drugs, which, in turn, flow back to Europe."
This is how free trade and value-added industries work. It's a shame that our political leaders are baffled by these simplest fundamentals of economics. Because they seek to use their prisons and their threats and SWAT teams to change the nature of these basic economic forces, a totally impossible endeavor and an effort that destroy hundreds of thousands of lives every year out of nothing but stupidity. Following the fall of the United States and the demise of its durg war, the trade in cocaine - a 100,000x chemical concentration of the coca plant's active components - will sharply decline. Most people who choose to use this plant will then be content to chew its home-grown or imported leaves just as the Andean peoples have done for centuries without harm. I know a Peruvian and he tells me that chewing the leaf is in Peru no more remarkable or alarming than drinking a cup of coffee - certainly nothing to start a war or prison building spree over.


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Comment #5 posted by dddd on June 29, 2001 at 00:28:04 PT
widening
>"However, now that the U.S. has widened its focus from Colombia to the entire Andean region -- and shifted from a military emphasis to a more balanced approach -"<

Yes,,,,and the recent earthquake in Peru,and political instability will
be used to further enhance this "widened" approach,,,or a better word
might be 'encroach'......notice the nebulous term,"balanced approach"
..What the hell is that supposed to mean?,,less military aid,and increased
RoundUp rain?....yup,we are going to see the atrocities committed in
Colombia,spread in a bad way,more so than they already have.....Like I
say,,the worst part,is no one knows exactly what is going on down there
now,because of the blacked out news reporting that is dictated by the Evil
Empire of the money and power drunk Uncle Sam.We need to check him
into rehab in a bad way.....d...d...d...d


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Comment #4 posted by rabblerouser on June 28, 2001 at 22:09:54 PT
you mean
drug warriors like Colonel Hiatt? Send him to China.

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Comment #3 posted by Grogwokr on June 28, 2001 at 22:00:58 PT
no profanity?
No profanity?....Well then, words truly fail me.....

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Comment #2 posted by Adam Wiggins on June 28, 2001 at 18:43:11 PT:

Re: Disapproval
Yes, I most definitely feel sorry for them. Most of them are
probably old enough they'll be dead or senile by the time we
achieve complete legalization; however, the ones that are
younger will be faced with realizing that they wasted billions of
dollars, along with their entire life, fighting a pointless fight.



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Comment #1 posted by MikeEEEEE on June 28, 2001 at 18:24:01 PT
Disapproval
Does anyone feel sorry for the drug warriors?



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