Cannabis News Stop the Drug War!
  Pot Still Illegal -- and Police Step Up Busts
Posted by FoM on June 25, 2001 at 10:33:04 PT
By Mark Wilson, The Province  
Source: Province 

cannabis The Vancouver Police Department has no truck with those calling for decriminalizing dope. Far from turning a blind eye to simple possession of marijuana, the force has been hauling in more and more people with too little pot to warrant a trafficking charge.

Figures released last week by the force show that possession charges numbered 71 in 1979, 76 in 1998 and 155 in 1999 -- then 562 in 2000.

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Comment #19 posted by Dan Hillman on June 26, 2001 at 22:45:27 PT
Putting 2.5 tons in perspective.
from
http://www.who.int/archives/tohalert/jul96/e/6.html

"The total weight of tobacco consumed globally in all smoking and smokeless tobacco products is about 6.5 x 10e9 kilograms per year."

That's 6.5 billion kg, or around 15 billion pounds, or about 7 million tons per year.

That works out to about 20,000 tons of tobacco consumed per day around the world.

I'll take a wild guess that there one ton of cannabis is consumed for every 100 tons of tobacco. That still makes world cannabis consumption 200 tons a day.

2.5 tons is, as kapt pointed out, a drop in a mighty flowing river of cannabis.


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Comment #18 posted by TroutMask on June 26, 2001 at 13:06:20 PT
Wrong Doorstep!
Hmmm, was this the only multi-ton shipment and also coincidentally the only one to end up on the wrong doorstep? If you believe that, please contact me for some great deals on some prime swampland in Florida.

-TM

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Comment #17 posted by lookinside on June 26, 2001 at 12:37:06 PT:

if the cops...
only valued this find at $1800 a pound...it is probably only
suitable for mulch..they value oregano at $2500...LOL!


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Comment #16 posted by FoM on June 26, 2001 at 12:17:16 PT
2.5 Tons WoW!
Hi kapt,
If I find a newspaper article with more detail I'll post it directly but this news brief is too much! Why oh why wasn't it deposited on one of our doorsteps! LOL! Just kidding!


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Comment #15 posted by kaptinemo on June 26, 2001 at 12:07:07 PT:

2.5 Effin' TONS?
2.5 tons of the stuff? Five thousand pounds? Eighty thousand ounces? Just dropped like the proverbial Manna from Heaven?

I was laughing so hard my gut hurts.

One more lesson which completely flies over the heads of the anti. They totally miss it. They can't grasp what this means. They simply can't comprehend the import.

Or, like so many of them, they do know what it means...and shriek their lies ever louder in hopes that they can distract the public from making the same realization.

Which is:

Somebody, somewhere, has lost what amounts to a drop in the bucket compared with the vast ocean of illicit cannabis that washes surreptitiously over every habitable continent on this world.

A 2.5 ton...drop...in the ocean.

One Hell of a good-sized drop, wouldn't you say? Yet, it's nothing compared to what's out there. Against that level of expendable volume, the antis simply haven't a chance. They are totally out-classed in this race, like being forced to wear lead shoes in a baton race.

I can admire dogged determination in the face of impossinble odds, if the cause is a just and worthy one. But trying to be the Little Dutch Boy at the dike when you're trying to hold back the Red River Flood is just plain stoo-pid. Give it up, antis.

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Comment #14 posted by FoM on June 26, 2001 at 10:05:21 PT
News Brief - You Won't Believe This!
Family Finds 2.5 Tons Of Marijuana At Front Door

Authorities Believe Shipments Came From Overseas

SENECA, S.C., 10:10 a.m. EDT June 26, 2001
Copyright 2001 by TheCarolinaChannel
Website: http://www.thecarolinachannel.com/

Video: You Won't Believe This!
http://video.ibsys.com/video.cfm?ID=841361&owner=gs

What if $9 million were dropped off at your doorstep?

That is exactly what happened to one Upstate family Monday, except that the bounty was in the form of marijuana.

A family near Seneca found almost $9 million dollars worth of pot on their front step Monday. In all, 63 bundles of marijuana were delivered in crates to the home, each one packed with more than $100,000 worth of the drug.

Oconee County Sheriff's investigators said that once the family realized what it was, they called deputies right away.

The drugs left authorities wondering where the shipment came from.

"I think it was just dropped at the wrong place, it was put in the wrong shipment and wound up in the wrong location. But we're checking into it to find out where it came from and where it was headed to," Oconee County sheriff James Singleton told News 4.

The sheriff said that the drugs arrived in a shipping crate, which leads him to believe it probably came from overseas.

Deputies have contacted the DEA to help them trace the shipment, and investigators were being cautions about the information they release because they don't they don't want to tip off possible suspects.

No arrests have been made in the case.

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Comment #13 posted by lookinside on June 26, 2001 at 08:22:11 PT:

troutmask..
agreed...i haven't heard of one either...the statutes are on
the books, even if they are not enforced, in every country
i've heard about...


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Comment #12 posted by TroutMask on June 26, 2001 at 06:54:23 PT
No prohibition?
"There are countries that don't have prohibition on herb at all."

Really? Where?

-TM

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Comment #11 posted by NOCOMMENT on June 26, 2001 at 06:08:57 PT
ABABABABABABAB
Yes sir: I have a really good story, but unfortunately, the pigs have people so parnoid, that just writing to you could cause trouble. How do I know that you are not a pig, being paid to sit and watch what comes up on this screen!
The point is not to accuse you sir! It's to make people aware that this can be retrieved. Our E-mail address is a signature. There is the law, and there are means at getting up before the law. Sir: to tell you what I have seen, I would have to meet you and know you, but, who's to say I'm not a pig, GET MY POINT!
Wise up people! The only way to beat prohibition is through wisdom,and sticking together.If you get caught with some herb,don't be a NARC. Don't take the drug test, you have a right not to.Use our history as a guide,the people have already beat one prohibition! There are countries that don't have prohibition on herb at all.


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Comment #10 posted by Randøm_ on June 25, 2001 at 22:40:46 PT
FoM & lookinside
Cannabis is indeed a beautiful plant with many herbal benefits!

I think the Kanadian cops are pretty much trying to cash in on the war before the drought (from profiteering on it's criminality). They are losing and figure that it's their last chance to turn a pretty penny.

FoM, I relate to the feelings of disgust in posting some articles. However, as much as it pets your peave and makes you want to scream .... it does that to those of us who read it, as well. In my fighting back against the WoD, I use such anger as my motivation to do something about it. From your posts I have received inspiration to fight the good fight and the motivation to endure the arduous task of, collectively, ridding this damned war once and for all.

I thank you greatly for the news, even the bad news ... both sides serve me purpose.

~Randøm_

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Comment #9 posted by FoM on June 25, 2001 at 21:03:50 PT
lookinside
Hi lookinside,
I'm glad you agree. I just get so angry about the laws against Cannabis. I think everyone that speaks out against it needs to try it one time and then say how they feel. They might not like it but they would have to think what IS all the fuss about.


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Comment #8 posted by lookinside on June 25, 2001 at 20:54:57 PT:

FoM...
you said it very well...of all the plants in my garden,
cannabis was obviously the most evolved, complex,
adaptable,BEAUTIFUL, and bountiful...i miss growing it, even
tho i haven't smoked it in 8 years...

our government can't win this war, all they can do is waste
our dollars trying...


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Comment #7 posted by FoM on June 25, 2001 at 19:56:52 PT
My 2 cents
The news recently has me so upset that I want to stomp my feet and yell and act like a lunatic but I'm too darn old to act that way. No really. Cannabis is a plant. It is good. It is pretty and smells good and makes people smile and feel better too. Where or where is the negative part? My head is spinning and posting some of these articles is really hard to do. What about jail? Jail is the only other side of this coin and it is absolutely one of the most insane things that we will remember happening when this is finally over. A WAR against a pretty plant.

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Comment #6 posted by kaptinemo on June 25, 2001 at 19:28:30 PT:

They're only turning up the heat...with help from
the US.

You have to wonder at the timing.

A few nights ago, on MSNBC, there was a story about anti-cannabis operations along the Canadian-US border between BC and Washington State. Much was made of the 'cooperation' extended to the relatively understaffed and under-resourced Canadian police forces by their US DrugWarrior counterparts. Of particular interest was the part about the use of night-vision equipment along the border; as if the Canadian border had surreptitiously become the Mexican one. The comparison of heavily armed narks scanning the bushes at night on the 49th Parallel and the same kind of thing going on along the Rio Grande was eerily familiar. What jars you out of complacency is one salient fact: for the last 5 years, the US has been operating as if the Canadian border was a hostile environment. Just like the Mexican border is considered.

Canadians are being asked questions that one might ask at a barricade somewhere in Beirut or Mogadishu. And when the answers are not to US liking, people who had travelled across the border for years are denied entry...practically for life.

Something I have never heard any Canadians ask of their government - and no American dare ask his is why are we treating long time friends like an piecemeal invasion by would be criminals?

This kind of nonsense only leads to bitterness amongst nations...and poisons a well we all have to drink from. Damn' fools.

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Comment #5 posted by MikeEEEEE on June 25, 2001 at 18:21:08 PT
Easy Targets
I've found that prohibition laws are the easiest laws to inforce when there's a shortage of real criminals. Marijuana users are peaceful easy targets.


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Comment #4 posted by Doug on June 25, 2001 at 17:40:57 PT
Only upholding the law
And the cops wonder why we dislike them. Here they are going out of their way to make a polictical statement that they don't like cannabis in any way, shape, or form, and that they will ignore the feeling of the populace they are supposedly serving. As a poll showed recently, people in BC are the most in favor of legalization; one would think that the police would take this as an indication that perhaps they should be a little less urgent in dealing with marijuana, but as this article points out they act just the opposite. But we're only uphold they law, they say. Sure.

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Comment #3 posted by sudaca on June 25, 2001 at 15:38:35 PT
decrim
This is an argument against "decriminalizing" marihuana. By Decrim the cops usually mean that they turn the proverbial "blind eye" to the activities involved in MJ consumption and dealing. This leads to less resources tied up by the cops and so forth and so forth.

However, the black market is still a black market, albeit a more open one. The cops can turn around and decide to harass the users and dealers when it becomes politically convenient to do so, and the stakes go back to what they were under an illegal drive. The "gray" market dealers who're less involved with criminals are less protected than the outright criminal elements who can usually afford to buy protection at the cop level. So the cops bust the less hardcore dealers, the more organized criminals stay in place, the price of pot goes up and the story goes on and on forever.

So , lets not settle for the wishy washy "decriminalization" solution that cops like so much (cause its discretionary, i.e. they can run the game). Lets LEGALIZE , REGULATE and TAX.

Why tax? to give the goody-goodies of this world a reason for letting people be. After all we'd be paying for the privilege.

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Comment #2 posted by Lehder on June 25, 2001 at 15:38:20 PT
Drug warriors are criminals,murderers and traitors
"They're going to be called before a court of inquiry, once marijuana is legalized, to explain 30 years of state-sponsored terrorism."


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Comment #1 posted by Dan Hillman on June 25, 2001 at 14:00:04 PT
Conflicting Information
Sorry, Mark.

Hee hee!

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,42655,00.html

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